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There is no better offer. Not sure what you guys don't get here. The offer Ameri holdings made was last year in march when the corporation still was Ciber and had assets and was running a business and was trading around .28 a share. They had not yet filled for chapter 11 protection. Ciber did not act on the offer and instead moved into chapter 11 in April with a 46 million DIP loan to keep operations going until they figured out what to do. They chose to do a section 363 asset sale of all the companies assets and ip to HTC. HTC now owns the Ciber business , but the Corporate entity that was Ciber still exists and changed its name to CMTSU liquidations. It's purpose is to be a holding corp for the $$ it got from the sale of its assets , and use the $$ to pay off the debts and claims that were entered during chapter 11. Last financial statement the filed with showed about 38 mill in the account . They had paid off the DIP loan, but had not started in the other Debts The unknown here is will there be anything left in the account after paying off all allowed claims. In June there was some one that did a article and calculations that showed possibly between .16 and .45 per share based on known claims at that time. Since then, there have been a number of large claims and lawsuits filed. To the tune of about 120 million . So do the math. If the have 120 million in claims and only 38 in the bank , who much are you going to get ??? The saving grace here is potentially a number of the larger claims may be settled for substantially less then what the are asking for . So again , there maybe some $$ left for the commons ( they get paid last). CMTSU filed on Oct , there chapter 11 plan and estimated payouts. At that time the said between 0 and .022 per share. That again was a estimate based on what claims where present at that time and what the expected to have to pay on them. I would guess that has changed since then but for the better or worse. I don't know. As for why the commons are still trading , simple , the corporation still exists, and until they wrap up all payments and claims , the can't just cancel them. Especially if there might be some $$ left they have to legally pay out to them.
There website doesn't even work..
You click on GET STARTED ( to buy something) and it just open a new window.. at least for me.
Especially since this has traded over 100 mil shares..
Except that estimation was done in June. Since then there have been a number of large claims made against them. That if valid would significantly decrease what ever $$ are left to pay the commons. In the CBRI documents they submitted to the courts it shows between 0 and .022. That's from the company and can be verified in docket 672 filed with the court. I will yield the point that this as well is an estimate made by the company based on filed claims and what they expect to have to pay out. Things could change. Maybe they are sandbagging the numbers. Idk. But that is the reality at this point.
I would agree, if it wasn't the same exact wording from the PR and 8K Ameri Holdings filed back in March, word for word.
You can search Ameri Holdings and find the same exact news and wording.. Only issue is its from last march..
and clearly this person who created the email just copied the news with out paying attention to the date.
Finally, would not Ameri Holding have to file some official forms as well as CBRI if there was going to be a merger ? The 8 K they filed back in march was not a official offer with terms. It was a basically a PR trying to get there way by calling out CBRI and making the terms of there offer Public Knowledge. There have been no filings, how would ETrade know of a pending merger if no ( Official) forms have been filed. This is not info that is released until the terms have been finalized. Sorry, but there are to many glaring issues here.
It clear to me this a some one rehashing info the popped up on there screen with out looking into ti deeper.
But thats my opinion
Not sure what " Name Change " and "Updated terms" your talking about. All I see is a reply from Etrade responding to most likely a email Cheeky sent to Them asking about this ticker and any possible mergers ( since that's the big rumor going around)
anyway.. done with this.. i posted the facts with links to support them. People can make there own informed ( or not informed) decisions.
Well, according to the court doc, the company changed its name to reflect the purpose it holds now. That is to Liquidate the rest of any assets and pay off valid Chapter 11 claims.. This is fact. Its in the the filings
As far as the Q coming off. I think that this case is some what unique.
The corporation still exists, so they still have shares and share holders. Since they are no longer in Chapter 11, the Q came off. Simple as that. Im sure if they wanted to have spent the money and time, they could have candled the Q shares and issued new, ( which is what happens in most Chapt 11 cases if the company planed on continuing operations, which we know they don't because they sold all there assets to HTC so there is nothing here to continue) but whats the point. Since the corporation is not planning to continue operations beyond paying off creditors, they have no reason to give a crap about the shares or share structure. That's my take
I guess we will keep going in circles on this till the fat lady sings. Time will tell what tune she is singing ! good luck, if your right you should make some decent $$$
Why cant you post it for all to see. ?? I am more then willing to entertain the idea of something more going on here then what the facts show.
But it's pretty clear the what ever Etrade is saying is based on this old info.
Check out this link from 2017 When they made the offer, but then Ciber didnt act on it.. so they moved on.
Read the last paragraph.. ( remember this is from last year Before the chapter 11 that happend in April )
Conclusion
As a result of the Board's lack of response to AMERI's private merger proposal, which we strongly believe is in CBR stockholders' best interests, the AMERI Group has reluctantly come to the conclusion that CIBER stockholders need a refreshed Board with Directors focused on maximizing stockholder value, which is why we are going public with our offer and nomination at this time. Given that time is of the essence for CIBER and the 2017 Annual Meeting is not expected to take place until June, we are hopeful CIBER's Board will now engage in discussions with AMERI to explore the benefits of combining the two companies. In the meantime, the AMERI Group is moving forward with our campaign to replace two incumbents with two highly-qualified candidates whose interests are better aligned with the Company's stockholders and who are deeply committed to maximizing stockholder value
And we all know what happend after that.. they filled for Chapter 11 and no merger occurred.
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If they were, i would be backing up the truck !
DD proves otherwise. IMHO
But good luck !
Hmmm.. possibly, but unlikely, that offer was for Ciber and its assets.. Since then, we all know they filed chapter 11 and sold off all there assets to HTC.. SO they have nothing of value, other then the cash from the sale, which is earmarked to pay off the Chapter 11 claims.
But hey, who knows
good luck !
Sure.. have a good day !
The Truth will set you free !! ( Unless of course you have $$ on the line and a big position here that you want to unload)
Check the companies Web site..
Looks like the buy out offer was from March of 2017... So while i do believe they called Etrade, and were told the info, I would say the info is outdated. Especially since the buy out offer terms exactly reflect the terms presented in 2017.
Good luck !
LOL.. I was here before.. So maybe you dont know as much as you think you do. FYI, I provided Links to my DD.. Not Photo's and hearsay. All my posts have current factual links. You can go read and make up your own mind. I don't care either way.
Just trying to post FACTS vs Fiction
Good luck !!
I would stay Etrade is offering up old info. As that is all they have.
The filing and the info is clearly from March 2017 on Ameri's website. It clearly states they were working with Legion and offering to merge, it also clearly states, that CIBER never responded. read it .. believe the company and there filings, or don't .. believe what you want.. dont matter to me.
It was real, a year ago, before the went chapter 11..
But no longer.
Pretty simple to follow the fillings.
Its on there website for all to see... this is not some snap shot
Good luck !!
http://www.ameri100.com/news/ameri100-offers-merge-ciber
AMERI100 Offers to Merge with CIBER
Offer Price of $0.75 per CBR share
Merger Would Create Platform for Margin Expansion and Value Creation
PRINCETON, N.J., March 13, 2017 -- AMERI Holdings, Inc. (OTC: AMRH) ("AMERI" or "Ameri100") announced today a merger proposal to CIBER, Inc. ("CIBER", "CBR", or the "Company") (NYSE: CBR) valuing CBR at a price of $0.75 per share, which is a substantial premium to CBR's closing price of $0.28 on 3/10/17. In addition, AMERI has formed a stockholder group (the "AMERI Group", "we", or "us") with Lone Star Value Management, LLC (together with its affiliates "Lone Star Value") to nominate two highly-qualified candidates to CIBER's Board of Directors (the "Board") at the upcoming Annual Meeting of Stockholders ("2017 Annual Meeting"). The AMERI Group owns approximately 4.5 million shares of CBR, representing 5.5% of CBR's total shares outstanding.
By way of background, AMERI first contacted CIBER a few weeks ago to explore the benefits of combining the two companies. At that time, AMERI also submitted a formal proposal to CIBER's Board, expressing AMERI's interest in a strategic business combination. AMERI's proposal was based solely on publicly available information and emphasized a desire to engage in discussions with the CIBER Board and management team to quantify synergies and other benefits of merging. Despite recently forming a M&A committee and hiring a financial advisor to explore all strategic alternatives, CIBER's Board has not responded to AMERI's offer, which strongly suggests to us that the M&A committee of the Board is not serving the best interests of CBR stockholders. We have, therefore, reluctantly come to the conclusion that the CIBER Board, and especially its M&A committee, is not serious about exploring all strategic alternatives and must be refreshed for CBR stockholder value to be maximized. As a result, the AMERI Group has nominated two highly-qualified candidates, Messrs. Robert Pearse and Dru Rai, to CIBER's Board.
AMERI believes a combination of the two companies would be extremely beneficial to stockholders of both companies and would create a platform for margin expansion and value creation. The AMERI Group is confident that CIBER's EBITDA margins have substantial upside with the right leadership and operating model. The AMERI Group's nominees take their fiduciary duties very seriously and are committed to exploring all strategic alternatives, including the sale of the Company to the highest qualified bidder, with no preference to AMERI.
AMERI's Proposal – Transaction Structure and Terms
0ur proposal is to merge the two companies for consideration of $0.75 per CBR share consisting of a combination of cash, stock of the new company ("NewCo"), and AMRH 9% Series A Preferred Stock, which was recently created and issued. CBR stockholders will have the ability to elect to receive, subject to proration, for each CIBER share held: (i) $0.75 in cash; or (ii) $0.75 worth of NewCo common stock based on an exchange ratio of 0.115; or (iii) $0.75 worth of AMRH 9% Series A Preferred Stock; or (iv) a combination thereof. AMERI is open to CIBER being the surviving entity for accounting and stock listing purposes, so we envision the stock of NewCo trading on either the NYSE or NASDAQ stock exchange. We expect the merged entity to have pro forma revenues of approximately $500 million.
Sound familiar ?? It was what they offered last year.. That off is off the table obviously..
Not to rain on the parade.. but this was an offer they made LAST YEAR ..before the Chapter 11 proceedings.. took me all of 2 mins to find this.. Seems the pump is on again..
AMERI100 Offers to Merge with CIBER
Offer Price of $0.75 per CBR share
Merger Would Create Platform for Margin Expansion and Value Creation
PRINCETON, N.J., March 13, 2017 -- AMERI Holdings, Inc. (OTC: AMRH) ("AMERI" or "Ameri100") announced today a merger proposal to CIBER, Inc. ("CIBER", "CBR", or the "Company") (NYSE: CBR) valuing CBR at a price of $0.75 per share, which is a substantial premium to CBR's closing price of $0.28 on 3/10/17. In addition, AMERI has formed a stockholder group (the "AMERI Group", "we", or "us") with Lone Star Value Management, LLC (together with its affiliates "Lone Star Value") to nominate two highly-qualified candidates to CIBER's Board of Directors (the "Board") at the upcoming Annual Meeting of Stockholders ("2017 Annual Meeting"). The AMERI Group owns approximately 4.5 million shares of CBR, representing 5.5% of CBR's total shares outstanding.
http://www.ameri100.com/news/ameri100-offers-merge-ciber
How the HE double hockey sticks ( LL) can this thing be trading at this level with 1 billion in assets. Dont get it.. Seem like the were making some revenue to up until 2015.. Nothing has changed with there fillings since then. Even if there not doing squat.. with those assets.. seems like this is over a $1 easy.. but even with those assets, back in 2015.. they were still in the penny's... what am i missing here ??
Your opinions would hold more water if you backed them up with facts. When this run started, you were saying there is nothing here. No money for commons, ect bla bla bla. But you provide no evidence to support you position, so your just as bad as the guys shouting this is going to revers merge with HTC and go to 1.00$ or some other pump.
The FACTS are as follows:
1) Company Filed for Chapter 11 status back in April
2) During that process, after looking at options, they chose to do a Section 363 sale of most of their assets. This would be similar to a Chapter 7 liquidation, but in a 363 sale, the company retains control of the assets and the corporation and is in charge of liquidating them, vs in a Chapter 7 a trusty is appointed, and the shares are canceled and the Trustee is in charge of the assets and payment to creditors. After the 363 sale, they still have to file a Chapter 11 plan and that is voted on by those involved. At this point, the company has Cash from the sale, but no longer is in business.
3) Company filed Chapt 11 plan, it was approved and effective date was set to 12/27/17
4) After Effective date Ciber corp changed its name to CMTSU Liquidation to reflect its new purpose which was to Liquidate the rest of the companies assets, pay off chapter 11 claims and wind down the company. Thus the drop of the Q and name change of the company. If the company had planned to try to reorganize, then they would have canceled the Q shares and issued new shares. Since they have no plan to continue, there was no need to do this, they just dropped the Q..
5) Currently, company is in the process of paying of creditors. There are 4 Classes.. Class 1, Class 2 Class 3 and Class 4. Common share holders are part of Class 4
6) What is uncertain is if there will be any money left after paying valid claims in class 1-3 left for class 4 commons. At this time, according to the companies filings, they estimate 0$ on the low side to .022 $ on the high side. The reason they can not be specific is that there are still Class 3 claims pending that must be resolved. If the Class 3 claims are paid at 100% and there are $$ left over, then that gets divided up between the 80 or so million shares out standing.
these are the facts as of today. here are links to support these facts.
DOCKET 671 and 672 are what your looking for.
https://cases.primeclerk.com/CIBER/Home-DocketInfo?DocAttribute=3227&DocAttrName=PLANDISCLOSURESTATEMENT
Now.. what happens to these shares after they finish the payments and wind down? The fillings say they would submit a certificate of Dissolution and dissolve the company. But, Could some one revers merger into this and take it over? Could some one buy a majority of shares and take control ? That i am not sure of, empty shells have value and clean debt free shells are prime targets for reverse merger candidates. So I'm not saying that could not happen down the road.. I am saying right now, there are no facts to support that at this time. Good luck !
Do guys bother to read filings? Or just make stuff up and go with it. Yesterday day I posted links to the Ciber chapter 11 case docket 671 and 672 are all you need to read to clarify and answer all your questions. The names it that because that is its function now. Straight from the chapter 11 plan. " CMTSU Liquidation LLC was created To distribute assets from the HTC sale to valid claims in the chapter 11 case and to liquidate and the rest of whatever assists it may have and then wind down the company. HTC has nothing to do with this. They now own the Ciber IP and assets. ( thus the change in website ). These shares have nothing to do with HTC. Believe what you want. But go read those dockets if you want the truth.
Initially, the thing fueling this was the possibility that the post Chapt 11 shares might have some value since the company did not cancel them, emerged from Chapt 11 and removed the Q. The Company did a Section 363 sale for all its assets, and sold to HTC all or mostly all its assets for around 90 million. Then back in June, there was some calculations done based on preliminary numbers that showed that this could pan out to have some $$ left for the common share holders. If i recall, between .15 and .45 per share.. That was what this started out as, and at this time is the only thing that might have some merit. Based on facts anyway. BUT the $$ amounts being thrown around though are highly speculative and based on that old calculation from June ( Seeking Alpha article ) Since then there have been more a larger claims made against Ciber, so what if anything might be left for commons is not clear.
Docket 672 has some of this info in it, if people care to actually read what the company forecasts.
https://cases.primeclerk.com/CIBER/Home-DocketInfo?DocAttribute=3227&DocAttrName=PLANDISCLOSURESTATEMENT
The rest of this( reverse merger, Legion buying shares because they know something, ect) is all just speculation. Why are Legion holding and not selling ? IDK but I do know they didn't buy them recently, they bought them back in Feb 2017 before the Chapter 11 proceedings . That is clearly shown in the filings if people would care to go back that far and actually look. Not saying there is not money to be made here, and who knows what might happen, just be aware, in the end, there may be nothing to back up what you paid for your shares. IMHO.
That's because HTC bought all the assets and IP of Ciber. They didn't reverse merge into it though. The old Ciber, which is still a functioning corporation changed it name to CMTSU Liquidataion, and has the specific purpose of remaining a corporate entity to pay out money to the claims submitted during the chapter 11 case. Which is what they are now in the process of doing now with what ever cash they have on hand . In their court fillings for their Chapt 11 plan, it specifically states that after that is complete,they will file for dissolution of the company. There is nothing here to support a reverse merger. that is speculation on others parts. CMTSU Liquidation exists to pay off the debts submitted in the chapter 11 case. NOW.. could someone buy up a majority of the shares and hijack the shell ? I don't know maybe. ??
If you want to know the facts vs fiction
check out docket 671 and 672 Lots to read, but you will find the facts of this case vs what others are making up.
https://cases.primeclerk.com/ciber/
Everything posted is speculation.
First of all, Legion purchased those shares in Feb 2017 before any Chapter 11 filling. So they got stuck just like everyone else.
Form 4 filling Feb 7 2017
http://investor.ciber.com/SEC-filings?o=25&year=2017&cat=&filer=Ticker%3ACBR
They have since sold shares on 2 occasions. Some in May, and some in NOV.. Agree they still hold shares. But to say they bought these because of some knowledge of a pay out or revers merger is to say the least a far reach.
Want some real DD?
Go here and read. Docket 671 and 672
https://cases.primeclerk.com/ciber/Home-Index
Docket 671 = Chap 11 plan
Docket 672 = Disclosure Statement for the Debtors' Plan of Liquidation Pursuant to Chapter 11 of the Bankruptcy Code
All you need to know to make informed decisions.. Good luck !!
BB, DD is pure speculation. IMOH. Be careful. Play the momo, but don't believe the hype Real DD is out there if you look for it. Docket 671 and 672 have some good info..good luck my friend.
DOCKET 671
Hi. Who knows, but that seems logical. But also as many have stated, clean no debt empty shells are prime targets for reverse mergers Especially with the low float this one has. So that is added bonus here. I'm not saying HTC is going to reverse merger , although is a interesting prospect. But that certainly is a longer term reason to hold these shares.
Hi, not to be a basher, here, I am long, but keep the facts straight.
Legion filed a From 4 showing DISPOSITION ( Selling) of shares not buying. They owned about 12 million, and sold 2.. SO yes they sill own about 10 million. So yes, i agree, why?? Agree that possibly the know something.
The question as to when they Acquired them, i don't know. I was looking for a filing and was not able to find one, but my guess is it was before the chapter 11 issues started.
I also think your incorrect on this being a revers merger play and the seeking alpha analysis being irrelevant. ( In my opinion) Its fact that HTC did buy the assets for about 90 mill,and assumption of some debt. The company used those $$ to pay the DIP financing and other debts. ( as analyzed in the seeking alpha article). The play here for now is that there are still $$ left over after the sales and debt pay offs, and that will be distributed to the common holders.( according to the analysis, some were between .16 to .45 per share) Since the corporation no longer operates as Ciber (all assets were sold) , but the corporation is still in tact, ( shares not canceled) they changed the name to CMTSU liquidations to come out of bankruptcy and distribute ( Liquidate) the access funds.
The idea of a revers merger is interesting, but at this time, nothing to support it. But there is DD to support the cash pay out.
just keeping it real !
I am long and hoping for the best here as well !!
Ya. Like we said. "Now, the story doesn't always have a completely sad ending. There have been cases where existing shareholders receive something after the company emerges from bankruptcy -- usually a small portion of the newly created stock or a relatively small cash payment". Since they didn't create new stock. We're looking at the cash payment. Sounds good to me !
You say that with conviction.
there is nothing left for shareholders.
Where is your proof ? Or is that just your opinion.
?? Its still a TAX loss if you sell the shares and get something out of them. You still get the loss. NO reason to wait until they are worth nothing.
HI.. ya.. my questions were more rhetorical to the poster. I agree if they were going to cancel shares, they would not have gone thru the cost and effort to 1) change the name and 2) remove the Q.. HTC merging is a interesting idea, i don't see any evidence of that at this point. But i suppose it is possible. IF HTC wanted to go public, what better way then to reverse merge with the shell of the corp you just bought all the assets to and has cash on the books. Still a win for us if that were to happen. To me it makes the most sense, that since they no longer are in the business they were in, they wanted to change the name to not confuse any one, and then liquidate the rest of the assets ( they still have some) and pay the share holders. IMHO
IF the shares were going to become worthless, why didn't they sell them off a month ago ? They could have, but they didn't.. The sold 2 mil and kept approximately 10 mil. ( thus the form 4) so again, why not just sell them all. No one knows, but the normal thinking would be they know there is still some value in them after this bankruptcy is over. IMHO.
Couple questions.
1) in most Chapt 11 cases, part of the reorg plan is to cancel old Q shares, and start over with a new share structure and give some of the shares to the old common holders. NOT remove Q when coming out of bankruptcy. If they were going to cancel them, why did they bother filing to change the name and remove the Q.
2) Usually the reason for chapter 11 is reorganize the company, restructure the debt, possibly sell some assets to pay some debt and continue operations. They did not do that. They sold almost all assets for approximately 90 million and some debt was assumed by the purchasing Co, HTC. Why did they do this.? In one of the filings it specifically said this was the best way to get the most value for the co and its share holders.
Bottom line is if they have $$ left over after paying off debt, then it goes to share holders. They can't just cancel the shares and keep the $$ that would be illegal in case of a chapter 11 and the court would not allow it. While I agree with you that this is now technically a shell/Corporation that has no business ( they sold the business to HTC) it is a shell/corporation with Millions of dollars in its accounts that needs to be paid out to its share holders. Thus the name change to CMTSU LIQUIDATION INC and the removal of the Q so they can make the pay outs.
Collectively they owned about 12 mil, sold about 2 ( thus the form 4) so now they own about 10 mil or about 13% of the outstanding.. Seems like if the new this ship was sinking, they would have sold all. Who knows. But seems like a good sign they held.
Link to valuation report.
break down from that article of worst to best case.. Not sure if we know more at this time.. but interesting read.
Hey Mr. Pool... so you had a 200K .03 limit order in and got nothing ? I did see some sales going off below bid during the day.. Seem like WORST case here is above .10 and closer to .20 per share pay out.. from all the estimates i have seen. crazy this is still at .015.
Am i right on this? Approximately 80 mil shares out..
Between 16 and 19 mill to pay out to share holders = .20 to .23 per share.
Found this older article that figured about the same valuation.
https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/44256726-johnny-whitemiller/4998383-ciber-inc-cbriq-evaluation-roller-coaster
$CBRIQ EMERGING w/ $16.1mil-$19.2million! Q comes off tomorrow
Approximately 80 mill out standing.. = .20 - .23 / share
Here is older article shows the same approximate valuation.
https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/44256726-johnny-whitemiller/4998383-ciber-inc-cbriq-evaluation-roller-coaster
Do what ever you feel is right. Cause the guys that tell you to hold and not sell are the ones selling. That said. It's best to sell smaller blocks into the momentum. Block size is dependent on price and momentum Example. 1000000 shares at .0001 is 100$. Easy to sell most likely. 1000000 shares at .10 is 100000$. That would obviously be harder to clear and stall a run. If your looking to be the good guy. Watch time and sales and see what size blocks are going thru. If people are buying 1m blocks pretty consistently Putting up. Couple mill would not be detrimental to killing a Run. Putting up 40 mil might. Again it's your $$$. So do what's right for you. Always make sure to take some profits when you can. Try to sell some before peak ( on the way up onto momentum ) it's easy to sell into a run much harder to try to sell once it's pulling back. Thats the game. Don't believe much if what you hear on these boards. People are pumping so they can dump there shares too. And they don't care about you. !
KSIX Dont miss this one!
Mentioned this one last week at .65 now looking to break .80
Seems like this one is still under the radar ??
A lot going over the last few weeks it seems.
8 million float
Check out this info from their web site and recent 8K
https://ksix.com/
KSIX REPOSITIONS SUBSIDIARIES TO FOCUS ON BLOCKCHAIN SAAS PLATFORM AND NEW CRYPTOCURRENCY MINING OPERATION
12/21/2017
KSIX ELIMINATES $1.47 MILLION IN CONVERTIBLE DEBT, RECOVERS OVER 20 MILLION SHARES OF PREVIOUSLY ISSUED OR RESERVED STOCK
12/20/2017
KSIX ANNOUNCES COMPLETION OF AUDIT, CORPORATE NAME CHANGE TO SURGE HOLDINGS, INC.
12/18/2017
Hey Kid..( Its me, your dad) welcome to i hub... I agree, while it is frustrating that other tickers run 100's of percents with even the mention of crypto, this one seems to get unnoticed, but to be fair, it was already up 100% from a few days ago, and was due for a pull back. It is a pretty low float stock, so not many eyes on it.. I think that will change once this starts creeping up on 1.00, which it should. I think the fact it only pulled back to .65 is pretty positive.
Cool..Thanks for the info.