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I can't wait until that morning..
when I wake up and FASC is at
$1.00. It's got to happen one
of these days.
Weeks?
Months?
Years?
Ya don't think somebody could be..
making all this stuff up? You know
with Photoshop?
Not!
HOW HOW HOW can this still be..
trading for a measly 1/4 of a dime?
It defies imagination.
Still holding.
If QL OR ANYBODY ELSE wanted to buy
FASC... we have to remind them that
they get a lot more than "JUST" what
the KDSs specifically brings to
their company.
FASC BRINGS MYRIAD OTHER $$$$DEALS
THAT THEY WOULD THEN "OWN". And could
probably bring to fruition a lot
faster because they have more resources.
Aw Man! I hope FASC comes through before..
we all join WaitMan's wife in heaven.
So that we can enjoy the fruits of
"victory" for at least a little while.
And "bask" in our "being right"!
I offer my condolences.
Sam
Thanks Netman, THAT adds even more..
credibility to the KDS/FASC.
I found this study/analysis of
patents on another board to be
quite re-assuring (I changed
the company name but still should
apply to FASC):
What the impact on Fasc will be if:
1) its technology is not patentable, or
2) its technology is already patented by someone else.
Answers:
1. If FASC’s technology is not patentable, FASC can maintain secrecy by treating the technology as a “trade secret, “simply not telling anybody how they do it for at least the timeframe it takes to become dominant trusted provider in the market, or, like Coca-Cola, indefinitely.
Trade Secret definition: a process, method, plan, formula or other information unique to a manufacturer, which gives it an advantage over competitors. Therefore the trade secret has value and may be protected by a court-ordered injunction against use or revelation of trade secrets by an employee, former employee or someone who comes into possession of the trade secret. The employer may seek damages against such a person for revealing the secret. In addition, the owner of a trade secret involved in a lawsuit may request a "protective order" from the judge to prohibit revelation of a trade secret or a sealing of the record in the case where references to the trade secret are made. A trade secret is a business process and not a patentable invention.
2. If FASC’s technology is already patented by someone else and FASC is the one who incorporates it into their processors, gets contracts, etc., then the patent holder can demand licensing fees and get a cut of the profits. A cut does not mean they’re necessarily entitled to a huge chunk of the profits. If, for example, only one part of the invention incorporates said other patent holder’s novel technology, then their right to fees is typically substantially reduced. The court will also take into account other costs, such as manufacturing the processors, marketing, legal fees, inter alia.
First to Invent v. First to File. In the United States, the person to invent something first is the one who gets the rights, whether they file a patent application or not. An inventor can prove their inventiveness by such things as lab notes, samples, etc. In many foreign nations, the person who files the application first is the one awarded the technology.
“Patent trolls” are guys sitting in their basements inventing stuff, but who have no intention of taking it to market. They merely get the patents on it. Then, they sit back and wait for someone else to come along and invent the same technology so they can sue for licensing / royalty fees. I have read that Intellectual Ventures is one such patent troll.
Patentability Searches and Opinions. Corporations that actually plan to use inventions usually hire patent attorneys to perform patentability searches and opinions before filing the patent applications. Patentability searches are usually performed by searchers who go out and search existing patent applications for like or similar technology. The attorney will peruse through those and prepare a patentability opinion, which is an expert opinion of whether the invention is novel, and if there are similar inventions out there, what the chances of infringement are. I trust FASC (Cal) has already had these done and knows where it stands in terms of novelty, and, if novel, how to protect that.
That is why I’m not worried about the patentability issue. FASC’s advisors, investors, and other interested parties, would not (likely) have permitted it to go this far down the road without determining where they stand with the technology. Companies signing contracts with FASC most definitely want to know that patent searches and opinions were performed. These things are standard in the industry whenever proprietary technology is at issue.
Larimar that was just about the best..
explanation of patents I have seen.
I hope it works that way for JBII.
Sam
A new JBII stockholder.
Does FASC have the wherewithal and
facilities to produce large amounts
of KDSs?
Even at down7% FASC was one of
the best performing stocks of the day.
OUCH!
Thanks CPAMAN. One thing that worries
me about "success" taking so long..
is the possibility of patent theft.
Or at the very least the potential
for some of the folks looking at
and using the KDS.. to learn how
to make it themselves.
Sundrop Fuels? Are they using
the term "KDS" generically?
Or is that OUR FASC KDS he is
referring to as part of his patents?
In other words is this Bryan working
together with FASC on those paatent-
inventions?
I wasn't trying to make a
big deal about it.
Still holding...
Sam
CPAMAN, I knew that, but it bothered..
me to see his/Atlas name show up on a
"current" brochure purporting to
support the KDS.
Ackhurst should eliminate that "PDF
brochure" link from its website.
It is the only reference material
below the excellent description of
the miracles of the KDS.
http://www.akhurst.com/en/product/771/#
A person reading the brochure might not
know about the shady background of Atlas.
Although I sure wish FASC could have
joined them on the meteoric stock
rise right after they got their KDS!!!!!
I'm wondering how Atlas mining prez..
got his name on this brochure.
http://www.akhurst.com/media/en/file_library/products/771_kds_micronex.pdf
This brochure comes from here (bottom
right - PDF Brochure)
http://www.akhurst.com/en/product/771/#
NETMAN, CPAMAN, thank you. You give..
me reason for hope.
Still holding.
I especially like this picture:
http://www.akhurst.com/en/product/771/
AND STORY/REPORT!!!!
Waitman, How about an announcement that
one of these companies (or 2 or 3) had
bought some FASC shares.. lots of
them.
You're welcome. KDS(s) pictures are here:
Okinawa plant:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oki-brc.com%2F
It says...
"Pellets (from KDS) are fresh and warm!"
Yeh go ahead and make me a liar. Yup!
That's not a nice way to end..
the week. Down 12%. I guess
the DC budget brouhaha has caught
up with little FASC.
Is that the KDS in yellow on the right?
THANKS CPAMAN (KDS) BIOMASS ENERGY SOLUTIONS
More verification of (hopefully) good
things in the (NEAR) future
Sawipac has developed systems that produce biomass fuel from oil palm solid residue:
Empty Bunch Press
Dryer
EFB Shredder + Cutter
KDS Micronex Machine
Hydraulic Fibre Baler
We knew we could depend on you.
Still holding..
Thanks CPAMAN, by the way is there..
and official financial definition of
"near term"?
Thanks
Thanks Net Man. Still holding. eom
If those KDS that we see 100s of pictures
of really exist.. then FASC's stock price
(compared to 1,000s of other stocks that
don't even own anything you can hold
in your hands) is an aberation.
A nasty aberation.
And as whatshisname suggests.. FASC stock
has to go to about .50 (okay .30 cents)
for many of us to just break even..
considering lost opportunity, trepidation,
etc.
Still holding...
North Dakota (where I was born) has
become just about the most popular
state (in myriad aspects of analysis)
in America... from being near
the bottom just a few years ago.
Timing is everything.
Thanks, CPAMAN. Why doesn't that "small
family business".. by some FASC stock?
A lot of it.
When FASC reaches $1/share, I am..
going to give everybody on this
board an autographed copy of
whichever album (27 of 'em
so far) they want.
Yankees' Albums
Charlie, thanks for the great
SET/SERIES of KDS pictures.
THANKS "DOC"!!!
TRACKER, you are ABSOLUTELY
right. There is NOTHING more
important than marketing.. not
even the product is as important.
But it costs lots of money.
(as you know)
PS
If I had the marketing ability ($$$)..
this would be one of the top bands
in the World:
Too Wild Yankees Band
OT - CPAMAN, I don't understand what
the Rimshot link was about? Video
conversion to MP-3.
Was there something specific?
TRACKER, I'm thinking the folks on
this board provide more news than
hqtrs could.. times ten.
(Maybe there is some "surprise" that
we don't know about.)
But other than a surprise...
I don't know what more could be
done to get the stock price out
of the dastardly doldrums.
There certainly are more than enough
KDSs being spread across the world
to justify a MUCH higher stock price.
Yup!
HOW in the heck? With all these..
projects around the world.. you
would think FASC had 100 workers.
PS
And the stock would be 2 and 1/2 dollars.
Not 2 and 1/2 cents.
TRACKER, I agree, and if pinch came to..
shove I might let mine go for a mere
$3/share.. just to get the ball rolling
for humanity.
THANKS Net man! that is what..
I was hoping.
Sam
I'm confused. Is ZEEP a FASC com..
competitor? Or a "partner" in this
seemingly great adventure?
CPAMAN, I agree. And thanks again
for all of your great sleuthing.
Sam
PS
Holding... since 1999.. or was
it 1998?
But then who can keep track of
time when we're having so much fun.
PSS
My average cost is about a dime.
More great news/sleuthing. Maybe we
better stop reporting this good
stuff.
It seems like every time something
better is found.. the stock goes
down.
HOW CAN IT BE SELLING FOR LESS THAN
1/5TH OF A MERE DIME PER SHARE?
Sam is speechless.. still holding. eom