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Just don't be naive to believe in the impression he gave you. He's playing dumb and it's obvious........which is still probably a good thing for you all.
Absolutely.....He can't say he knows anything about a potential pump. He's not stupid when it comes the the stock part of the business........just playing stupid.
And yes, it's probably a good sign for you all.
LOL. Oh my......he really said that? Come on now....he's in bed with 2 investment companies VERY known for somehow always being attached to stocks that are pumped and he said that? Really?! Wow. He must think you just fell off the turnip truck
About to get a crown as we speak. Fun
I have no opinion of this SEO company. There are too many out there to know about all of them. You will know if they are any good in 3-6 months if the NSL site rankings go up. It takes a few months to get any traction.
Wow.....groundbreaking idea. Folks, this is just a fancier way to say with hot air that when you are about to confirm your purchase to a product online, you get a few other similar offers that pop up possibly saying something like "people who purchased this item also purchased this or these."
It also means that you can offer buyers at check out to get the product you are buying for free or cheaper by signing up for a free offer from "one of our sponsors". Like filling out a credit card application, magazine subscription, etc. NSAV would get paid for each person that would sign up for these offers.
The second example is questionable for most reputable sites but can be a good revenue source for other sites. However this is very common and nothing new. Anybody with any website that sells something can plug and play a program like this into their s. It doesn't cost much if anything to "attached" this to your site checkout. It's similar to how you simply get all the affiliate sites set up on a site like NSAV has done with ALL of their content.
These are the types of press releases that are concerning but they may get people to invest because it looks like it's something bigger than it is. Still needs tons of traffic to sell things
well good luck to you all. Just be cautious as I'm sure you are.
If they can't fork out a few hundred bucks a month on SEO marketing, I'd be deeply concerned on the true motive behind the site.
well if Brian can get the keywords climbing in the rankings then that's a start.
well if Brian can get the keywords climbing in the rankings then that's a start.
Respectfully disagree....You can still start SEO marketing and PPC (pay per click) doesn't have to be a part of it. I hired an SEO company for $400 a month that took my site from no rankings to top 5 in rankings for certain keywords/key phrases. It took 4-6 months to get there but it's affective.
SMO is important but you also have to be careful. It can actually hurt you if the feedback in social media is negative about the site. Not saying it will be, but it could.
SEO finds people that may be looking for deals actively and ready to buy. SMO exposes the product or service to friends/family etc that are not really actively looking for that product or service at that time.
Bottom line is that they are both different but important. It's debatable by some as to which is better but it really depends on what type of business you are in.
Being that this business is 100% reliant on the internet to make money, he should be doing both in a massive way.
Your site can be SEO optimized but you still have to do SEO "marketing" on an ongoing basis. It's not a one time thing and you are done.
Being optimized for SEO is not the final step. It's a continuous process to get the site up in the rankings for certain keywords. Yes, SMO is also good to do as well, but SEO marketing is also essential for a 100% online business.
January traffic
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/netsavingslink.com/
Keep in mind that even if they sign with an SEO company tomorrow, SEO takes months to work especially in a highly competitive industry such as deal sites. It will take at least 6 months to begin to get significant rankings from the SEO.
Congrats to you all for the current stock price though.....looks like a lot of you are in the black.
As I have always said, play the stock and not the business.
This is a stock game and NOTHING else. There will be not nearly enough revenue to justify even the current pps. Enjoy the pump when it comes if it comes and know when to get out.
If you believe this model will work then you also believe that they will still fine natural resources in Peru with POT whatever.
there probably is...
I would venture to say that pump is certainly in the works. Here's a longer article. http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2010/04/16/109029.htm
Seems they never really plan on getting their loan back from the company. They really just want the stock so they can pump. What you have to figure out is when those shares become unrestricted. I'm sure they would require they be 6 months restricted. But then again....who knows.
Interesting...mentions the Japanese company
http://dealbreaker.com/2010/04/thinking-of-running-some-sort-of-financial-scam-considering-bringing-your-wife-in-on-the-gig/
True
Doesn't bode well for the actual longevity of the business though, so get out when you find that exit point you are looking for IF that pump comes.
It appears that this company is owned by a Curt Kramer. Google him and see what you find. Also look at this link. Seems he is and has been involved in MANY pennies. Hmm...
I don't have the time but I'm sure you do Al. You may want to look at the stocks he has been involved in. Seems he loans a lot of them $40K+. Maybe you can find a pattern of when he makes the loan and when the company is pumped.
Could be good news/bad news.....
Here's a post from a long time ago with this guy's name in it
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=46479161
for me personally, no. I don't own this stock, but I'd like to see everyone else get their money back. I just got sucked into following it because I like to follow the pumps and this one really got my attention because I have experience in this industry. Following this board has become my guilty pleasure. Besides, I have enough stress just being caught up in another penny stock that's been in limbo. But that board is very boring.
I believe the NSAV Q4 financials were supposed to be filed today or someday this week? Last filing was 10/20, but they filed for an extension on 10/17.
I was only responding to Penny when he said he wonders what the next model would be. I just spit out an idea in response that would have a better chance than the current model.
it can be done as a netsavingslink.com/russ address for example or more ideally it can be duplicated on your own URL.
I didn't figure YOU would. That was directed toward everyone as a group.
Here's a thought....instead of allowing just businesses to do a private label site, allow any person as well. Sell the duplicated NSL site to any person or business for $100- $1000 initial set up charge then a recurring $10-$50/month hosting/service fee. Maybe give them a few options. They can choose to have all of the site's features or pick them a la cart for cheaper set up and recurring fees.
DROP the membership charge and the certificate bologna.
On top of that, they can up-sell other products and services to site owners like online marketing products, etc.
Now NSL makes money 3 main ways.
1) Initial set up fees and monthly hosting/service charges.
2) Rev share on all of the sales that take place on the many potential private label sites that they sell.
3) Up-selling items such as SEO, social media marketing tools, etc.
Now, this similar model has been done before if you remember the many Internet malls that were available mainly through multi level marketing companies in years past. It's not revolutionary and definitely not guaranteed to work because you still need to market this model to people which costs money. BUT this model would have a heck of a better chance at success than the previous one. Heck I bet most of you here would buy your own site from NSL.
I believe that was sarcasm
NSL December traffic estimates
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/netsavingslink.com/
Can't been soon enough.
Heard a couple radio ads in LA today with Jeremy Miller. They are promoting StopDrinkingUSA.com which links directly to FreshStartPrivate.com.
Some signs of life!
GLTA
I'm here. If you read my past posts you will know my thoughts on this company and it's stock. That hasn't changed one bit. I'm actually happy that some of you guys are getting close to even since you averaged down. Hopefully there will be enough volume down the road to sell into higher prices.
My opinion is that this company will not create enough revenue to justify a valuation even at its current valuation at .04.
It needs a pump and I'm sure you will get one at some point.
I've always said play the stock and not the company.
If that makes me a hater, so be it.
This is really no different than what he was trying to do before except the private label part. The website will be an exact replica of the Net Savings site. Still the same deals, membership model, etc. It will be hard to sell this for $99K to a company. A company would do tremendous DD on the deals before putting out that kind of money. They will want to make sure their customers/employees are getting exclusive offers.
Any knowledgeable business person of the online space would see that the NSL site itself, is a replica site. If you look at the grocery coupons section, that site is a private label site from Coupons.com. So actually, the white label sites that NSL will offer will be a copy of a copy.
Look, if he can pull off selling white label replica sites to businesses on a scale big enough to make this company successful, I will be floored. Maybe he can convince a few small small businesses to do this but the smaller the business, the tighter their budgets.
I remember a post once that said they had 30,000 members already. If there's no revenue reflected from these membership numbers (if true) I'd be highly concerned with the viability of this company.
Now, on the other side of the coin is the stock. This higher volume that I see lately and the stock price being taken down with small sells after larger buys, tells me that something may indeed happen with the stock in terms of promotion soon. This is just an opinion or theory but sometimes these stock promoters are paid with shares instead of cash. My theory is that sometimes shares are traded from insiders in the new company or from the previous shell to the touts on the open market at very low prices so that the touts can accumulate large shares over time that are unrestricted. This way, they can dump them as they are pumping it.
Again, this is only my theory.
On the contrary, this is the best time. Holidays are a tough time for alcoholics and drug users. Not to mention January is the month of resolutions. Timing couldn't be better for this.
yup. And November is the end of the NSL 4th quarter. Doesn't bode well for Q4 earnings
NSL traffic estimates per Compete.com for November. These are only estimates but they tend to be pretty accurate and they are good for watching the trend.
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/netsavingslink.com/
I agree...I guess we just need to keep the comments directed towards individuals at a minimum.
and no chef to cook it....
No he's not on it...caught in an obvious lie.