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That he does, LOL. I'm snacking a bit here and it has been very satisfying indeed. I can smell the main course coming and I have to say, I'm starving.
About the potential Heartland site:
November 2005 - MELBOURNE, FL - A flintlock pistol, a sword and a cannon possibly used by ancient mariners are making history teacher Tom Funk and his
Funk and his partners hope the wreck is from the famed 1715 Spanish Silver Plate Fleet. The fleet of 11 galleons set sail from Havana in 1715 laden with jewels, gold and silver, but ran into a hurricane along Florida's east coast. "Ten of the 11 ships were destroyed," said Funk, an archaeologist who teaches history at Satellite High School, in Satellite Beach. "Seven have more or less been found."
The shipwreck sites include spots near Fort Pierce and Sebastian, and the ships' high-value cargo gave the Treasure Coast its name. For the past decade, Funk and his partners have been surveying, exploring and researching what might be another of the treasure ships, in 43 feet of water off Melbourne Beach.
While exploring the wreck in late August, they found several artifacts that boosted their hopes. "Our artifact collection is pretty interesting," Funk said. "We have enough artifacts, I think, to show what period they belong to." There's the intact, silver-handled pistol and what appears to be a boarding sword, which has a curved blade and was known to be used by fighting mariners. The collection also includes some cannon balls, pewter plates and a stack of silver platters, which Funk said are beautifully embossed. "They look like a big turkey platter," he said. "We're sending (the collection) to a conservation lab for more study."
In the meantime, Funk and his partners will work on renewing the salvaging permits they need from various state agencies, such as the state Division of Historical Resources. Permitted salvagers can end up owning items they find, but 20 percent of the value of found treasure goes to the state.
The dive site worked by Funk's team stretches diagonally for perhaps a mile. The team includes members of Heartland Treasure Quest, from Georgia and Florida; Amelia Research Co., of Amelia Island; and Florida Research and Recovery, a group of investors primarily from Georgia.
A principle of Heartland Treasure Quest is Sebastian resident Rex Stocker, who was a member of the Real Eight Co. The Real Eight Co. worked with the famed Mel Fisher's Treasure Salvors Inc. in the 1960s to recover millions of dollars worth of treasure from the 1715 Fleet shipwrecks.
Taffi Fisher Abt, Fisher's daughter and the director of Mel Fisher's Treasure Museum in Sebastian, said she's interested to hear more about the items found by Funk and his partners. "It's quite possible this wreck is one of the 1715 Fleet," she said. "I have not seen any of these artifacts, and I haven't seen their log sheets, so I don't know for sure."
fellow ocean explorers eager for next year's diving season to arrive. They found the weapons in late August from a shipwreck about a half-mile off Melbourne Beach, north of the Sebastian Inlet, and plan to search the wreck more when diving conditions are at their best, usually about late May to October.
Spanish galleon?
Same to you friend:) Always nice to see familiar peeps on board.
Well, isn't this a motley bunch? I think I'll fit right in over here. Wooden leg and all!
Amen friend, amen.
I'm ready for some uncommon contracts for the commons! With these results of 98% removal, the sky is the limit.
Yeah, Ash Grove in Texas is spending $125 million to comply with local agencies. The states are interested in their own populations, not everywhere else.
Who do you think supplies the daily or periodic emissions results to the EPA for every boiler, cement plant, power plant, etc? You realize how this works don't you? They have monitoring equipment that they use to compile the emissions and then send them to the EPA themselves. The EPA may come out to locations periodically to check the equipment and make sure it meets protocol, but you can't possibly think that the EPA has a representative on site at each plant or that all the results are independently certified through some testing lab.
The plants report the data. It is monitored by the EPA and they check on them periodically on site. If they are falsely reporting it they are subject to fines and penalties.
The same thing applies here. This isn't independent of that process. The cement plant reported the data. I have a feeling that the EPA was either on site or monitoring it daily in this case. The cement plant has no interest here in reporting inflated or inaccurate data to the EPA. In fact, they would have more interest in reporting bad numbers in this case to back up industry claims that the levels can't be met. But they won't and can't report numbers that aren't accurate whether it benefits them or not.
I also love the cries of "no contracts to date". The government hasn't gotten serious about mercury until a few years ago. Of course companies aren't going to do anything until they have to or at least know it is inevitable.
But now that they have to make changes, our tech becomes very valuable. Sometimes it is all about timing. Our time is now. The hot run results and their release should be a clear signal as to what is coming.
EPA.GOV They are kind of important these days.
I also love the cries of "no contracts to date". The government hasn't gotten serious about mercury until a few years ago. Of course companies aren't going to do anything until they have to or at least know it is inevitable.
But now that they have to make changes, our tech becomes very valuable. Sometimes it is all about timing. Our time is now. The hot run results and their release should be a clear signal as to what is coming.
It is comical Player.
It seems the jig is up Gregg. Time for us to admit it.
I thought the government would have some interest in this report, since you know, it is being done based on their regulatory powers. I didn't realize that these cement boys were just dazzled by the greatest liar of all time. Just like at MSE where he strong armed the locals and the media, he walked in there and forced them to use MBS during their production period and then forced them to allow him to publish "uncertified" results which would put them in direct violation of EPA monitoring and reporting requirements. His powers of persuasion and pure deceit are just sickening.
Gregg, here is my fear now that we are on to Fallacaro. I think what we'll see next is him forcibly making government agencies and private industries such as cement companies and power plants to sign long term contracts with him to use this unproven technology. Where will this man stop?
How was that? Do I sound sincere? Am I being credible with this?
Well, cement plants are required to monitor and report their emissions levels to local and state governing bodies as well as the EPA. So it is in their best interest to correctly report these levels and as they do it on a continual basis, I'd presume they have some expertise in doing so.
So you can ask for 3rd, 4th, or 5th parties to "certify" the testing, but if it is acceptable to the EPA for the levels this plant is reporting then I'd hazard a guess that we won't need another round of testing or reporting. Do you really believe that this happened in a vacuum and the EPA wasn't either on site or monitoring this daily with an impending MACT ruling coming?
Really?
Mercury is an ill liquid. Maybe I misunderstood all this time LOL.
Very intense care Buc!
Wonder why it hasn't occurred to anyone that Jim has paid MSE a pretty substantial amount of money to implement MBS at the cement plant, oversee the testing over a two week period, and write a final report that can be sent to the EPA, DOE, and PCA among others? Does anyone really believe these engineers just did that for free? He certainly doesn't owe MSE money for that work as evidenced by the release of the report. So that idea of Jim not making payroll and getting kicked out rather than him walking away from the deal as MERDI publicly stated is just more comical every day.
Don't disagree that further exposure would help. I think just publishing the results is a start. This will be reviewed extensively by the Portland Cement Association. From previous releases we know that EPA and DOE as well as the cement plant representatives and MSE were monitoring the data, so this wasn't done in a vacuum of insiders by any means.
Today's news releasing the hot run report at a live cement plant gave us some fantastic real world data as well as some data points that we may be able to tie together regarding why a large cement company would contract a charlatan like Jim with his ancient test tube technology.
First, you have significant evidence that Jim was contracted by Ash Grove to work on a project. That was initially reported by MSE on their website in March and continues to reside there despite the fact that MSE and Global are no longer moving forward with the proposed acquisition. That is very telling in that it would have been removed if there wasn't actual work that was done as had been suggested. MSE is certainly under no directive from Jim to keep that news listed on their site. Also, Ash Grove would have ordered this information to be removed if there wasn't agreement by all parties to publish this news nugget as follows:
3.16.2012 - MSE is working on a project with Global Technologies Group, Inc. and Ash Grove Cement Company.
Global/MSE/Ash Grove
We also know that Ash Grove is proactive in their pursuit of EPA compliance, regardless of the deadline. The following was published in the Baker City Herald which serves the local area of the Ash Grove Cement plant located in Durkee, Oregon:
Last August, EPA announced rules that require cement plants to reduce emissions of mercury, a known neurotoxin, by about 98 percent.
However, in anticipation of the EPA limits, Ash Grove spent about $20 million to install equipment at the Durkee factory that captures most of the mercury before it’s released into the air.
The equipment, which went into operation on July 14, 2010, has the potential to reduce the plant’s mercury output by about 90 percent, according to Ash Grove officials.
Ash Grove Durkee
There are a couple of key items of note here besides the fact that they spent $20 million on a PAC system well ahead of the proposed and now possibly extended deadline for compliance. First, the EPA requirement of 98%. That has been under some dispute here and I'll come back to that later. Second, by their own admission the PAC system they installed was only capable of removing 90% of mercury emissions. Well short of their 98% mandate.
Now, why are those numbers important as they relate to today's news release? Look at the data from table 2 as follows:
8/6/2012 90.94 88.64
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8/7/2012 97.56 92.07
What should stand out here is that on 8/6, the day before MBS was introduced into the stack gases at our mystery cement plant the reported capture rate was 90%. Sound familiar? Then on day one the live run using MBS in concert with a multi-million dollar PAC system the capture rate immediately increases to 98% Sound familiar?
There are different numbers mentioned in regard to mercury capture. Is it 98%, is it 85%, is it somewhere in between? Actually each location will be different. The percentage is based on the amount of mercury released in pounds (55) per million tons of clinker output over a 30 day average at each plant. Mercury is a result of both the limestone used and the fuel used. In some parts of the country, such as Durkee, the limestone is particularly high in mercury content therefore the output from the clinker is much higher than say a location in the Midwest. So because Durkee limestone is so high in levels of mercury, a 98% capture rate is required by the EPA to meet their standard of pounds of mercury released into the environment.
Does this mean that these rules only apply at Durkee because of the extremely high levels of mercury at their particular location? No. Per this release by opposition in the US Senate, 158 kilns will still be impacted by this ruling. So by estimates provided to Senate opposition, likely by the Portland Cement Association lobby group, the requirement for some additional mercury capture system will be required. At Ash Grove and across America.
US Senate estimates impact
So we know Global is working with Ash Grove. We know they are actively pursuing compliance. We know they have failed to achieve compliance with a state of the art PAC system. Now we have evidence that introduction of MBS, at Ash Grove (perhaps Durkee), in combination with their state of the art PAC system, has brought them fully in compliance with EPA mandates. We also have data indicating that not only was this a one day trial, but continued for at least 2 additional weeks. In fact, Jim mentioned in today's release that MSE received data points from the hot run over a 2 month period.
What does all of this mean going forward? If the EPA pushes out the mandate to 2015, who cares right? Well Ash Grove appears to care. They've spent $20 million at Durkee and are still searching for a system to get them in compliance. Or perhaps they've found it. If they have used MBS and it brings them to the proposed level of compliance for their 55lb/million ton maximum output, why would they stop using it? Why would they now, on the eve (December 20th) of the EPA's self imposed deadline to consider moving the compliance date to 2015, consent to the release of this report which clearly indicates that compliance is achievable despite the opposition indicating that it cannot be done? I have my suspicions.
In either case, even if the date is extended, it will happen. Mercury emission will be controlled to a higher level. The EPA hasn't budged on that. Today's release is a message across the industry that this can be controlled and can be controlled without plant shutdown and immediately. Some companies such as Ash Grove have already and will continue to implement systems regardless of the deadline as they not only have the EPA to worry about, but local regulatory bodies as well.
And finally consider this. If I own a cement plant and I put to use a system on a trial basis that arrests the release of a powerful neurotoxin into the environment, do I ever stop using it? Would my lawyers let me stop using it? Why would I want to when I've already spent millions to get there?
This final report is the result of the compilation of multiple data sets which were received over a two month period by MSE and a final analysis completed by MSE Technology Applications, Inc.
Hmmm? I wonder if anyone out there wants to pursue a $20 million plus PAC system that may not work, or will they take a look at our ancient test tube technology that can be tested immediately. I wonder.
Man I'm loving being so very,very common. Lots and lots of common in fact.
Feels strange that the warnings of those who said MSE would sink us and was worthless are now saying we can't survive without it. Comical.
IMO we start seeing much of the news Jim talked about in the last PR. Lot of attention on this illiquid little grey market stock:)
Kind of makes you wonder.
Time will tell. The only thing known with certainty is that only Jim and the SEC actually KNOW anything. Not a bunch of random people on a message board. Neither side here KNOWS anything. Today's impending doom article is once again proof positive of that. All of the posturing and attacking and defending here means nothing. None of it.
I believe this will work out for the commons. You don't. Neither of us KNOWS anything. Any statement to the contrary is just conjecture and isn't worth the time it takes to read or should be taken as an opinion, not as fact.
Time will tell.
It is confusing isn't it. First MSE would never happen. Then when it seems like it is happening, it had nothing to do with GTGP. Then it was debt ridden and any part that shareholders might have in it was just a bankrupt company with no prospects. Then it was only happening because Jim had tricked MERDI into some scam deal. Then Jim's information gets removed from the MSE site and no one notices for a week LOL. Then Jim was run out of Butte.
Then comes the best part, the expose coming from the Montana Standard. Real news from an independent and impartial news source about Jim's fraudulent activity. Not more spin from Jim. This couldn't be denied. The truth was coming out and those in the know were circling like vultures, watching for what was to be the last breath of Jim and Global. Shareholders wouldn't like it. The time was coming. Tomorrow it would be, watch and see. 3 am eastern time.
So what happened? MERDI instead of making those terrible accusations we were warned about say they are disappointed that they couldn't finalize the deal with Global. Disappointed. Not relieved, disappointed. Jim indicated that further due diligence had led him to a point where he no longer felt it was something that should be finalized. No he said, she said. No fireworks. No blood in the streets.
We were warned. No spin was coming from Jim, this was MERDI'S side. The cold, hard truth. An independent, LOCAL newspaper. Not Jim's PR factory. So when that dire news we were assured was coming didn't come we were left with stories of Jim, that silver tongued devil, strong arming the local media and slithering off into the night because he couldn't make payroll.
Where did those stories of the real truth come from? A follow up story from the Montana Standard? No, a blogger. Not a blogger with a resume in the media. No, a blogger more adept at being put into the pen than using one.
Kind of makes you wonder doesn't it.
I really wish someone would list some reasons why this stock would be revoked. I keep seeing folks hint around about it but if someone would just put together a single post with clickable links, perhaps to other posts, that would be helpful.
Thanks in advance.
Pretty miraculous isn't it. Seems like if he was really under any sort of criminal or fraud investigation, he wouldn't be publicizing events that we are being told are hoaxes and didn't happen.
Folks are now begrudgingly acknowledging MBS has been used and proven to work for soil remediation. Sounds to me like we will soon see it works live in smoke stacks, specifically cement plant stacks.
Pretty miraculous isn't it. Seems like if he was really under any sort of criminal or fraud investigation, he wouldn't be publicizing events that we are being told are hoaxes and didn't happen.
Folks are now begrudgingly acknowledging MBS has been used and proven to work for soil remediation. Sounds to me like we will soon see it works live in smoke stacks, specifically cement plant stacks.
So you are admitting that there is a proven use for it and that it isn't a hoax?
When the hot run test report comes out, will you be here to admit that it is more that test tube technology?
So, it is not a hoax?
This little nugget might carry some meaning for those who have dismissed this as a hoax and simply viable in a test tube:
It should be noted that MBS was used successfully at Oak Ridge in 2005, 2006 for Mercury remediation.
Not only is the DOE aware of it, the have used it successfully. Seems like they might just be interested in using it again if they've requested two separate meetings with Global.
Has anyone caught the part about the successful use of MBS at Oak Ridge?
Wow, it is nice to see some familiar faces. Seems like things are moving forward as expected.
Kind of the pot calling the kettle black isn't it.
Excellent post Seven.
I have to hand it to you, another great point. Jim Bob doesn't have experience in applying the technology. Good thing he hired/acquired these guys to do it Jim Bob's crew
Mr. Gilbert also appears to have some background in managing projects for the DOE. I wonder why ole Jim Bob hired him?
Projects that cost millions not including MBS sound like just what GTGP needs. Good point.
Thanks for pointing that out. DOE at Oak Ridge is stating they have up to $32 million available for mercury remediation which it would appear would more than cover the costs you highlighted.
So your admission that positive results were attained, via EPA testing, and that it is cost effective based on your highlighted costs in relation to what the DOE is willing to spend at Oak Ridge would seem contrary to calling this technology fake or a scam would it not?
My bad, I thought 1500 tons of treated waste soil was significant. Not a test tube. Not a scam. Thanks for the correction.
You might want to double check that with the EPA
Completely agree G.
MSE, MSE, MSE! Can't wait to see what news comes with that transition finalized.
LOL, that sounds right. Yeah a dividend that comes in addition to shares you already own sounds pretty good no matter the value or percentage.
That isn't true. I heard GTGP owns 406.4% of GTHI which in turn owns 100.01% of MSE.