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Darn it MS. I just did ( but I want you to know that I am not breaking my promise..I just saw your post and wanted to say I agree. Forgive my Hiney...staw gave me gas...bad gas.
Happy Holiday's.
Cal
Straw 5: (Is that your age btw??) Sorry Doug..I had to ask too. Also, Mr. 5..you are on ignore. Do you feel the need to answer? I bet you will (oh..and just in case..I can have my cake and eat it too). Peace!!
Cosmic: You are a good man! Best Wishes in 2004!
Cal
LLLLLLOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL!
A57: Just don't let them do the following on the net and they'll be protected:
1. Open any email.
2. Visit Nasa.com (which was a porn site that he stumbled across while getting the coordinates for the International Space Station that we were tracking from our backyard observatory).
Merry Christmas...Thanks for the note.
Cal
T57: Good luck!! Cal
The process will take a finite bit of time that is for sure. I'm interested in seeing how the volume goes over the short term (pending any news releases). Over the past couple of days it's been very much trading in a slower than normal pattern (even for an otc). As we all know (those of us who own it) the last couple of days (excepting today) of trading up are a little unusual for DNAPrint w/o news. So, there is no big interest in buying it..and moreover..no big interest is dumping it off either. And that is good for the pps as we've seen pretty rapid declines after news over the years. Oh well....
I hope the Holiday Season is great for everyone around here..as in...on both sides of the Isle. Have a great night.
Cal
Chig: Great synopsis. Cal eom.
Enjoy the day today guys. I would really like to tell the board moderators, again, Thanks!
Also, on that note, since I love to give as well as I get at times...I will not get involved with anyone who is obviously just a Creepy Character (or plural). It doesn't do this board any justice and, looking back on it in hindsight....I decided to go with mjam's peace 'Road Map' on the RB and was just considering why allow it to occur here. Obviously it didn't last long there..and it appears to have spread, like a virus to here.
In my opinion, it's the same cast of characters. This place is like Shangri-La compared to the lunacy at RB.
Great Effort Guys.
Cal
Wow. LLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLL. "creepy" is the word of the day...and all from an 11 years old. God..he's called you and only saw one of days worth.
LOLOLOL....invested because of what I said...you dope..if you did that you'd be up over 100% if you sold today...LLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.
So, thank you for your confidence. LLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLL...
Please...put me on ignore.....I just almost pee'd in my pants reading you billyb. If you really had gotten in based on what I've posted....then you'd be up some pretty darn good cash since last year...llllllllllooooooooooooollllllll.
Peace babyb....boo!
billyb: In order..1. Most likely..don't forget..he "owns" more shares than you. 2. Probably..blood is thicker than H20. And, 3. Yes.
OT: My son asked what I was doing. I showed him I was reading some information/opinions of some of the people who own some of the same stock as us ( yeah..right ). He thought it was "Cool" the way the board monitors tried to keep things organized (he wasn't so much into the discussion..just the way the system worked). The best part of it was his comment. Right to the point:
How Creepy! Have a great night all you DNAP owners!!
Cal
IVRT: Once again, I would just like to thank you and congratulate you on organizing this forum for us DNAPrint investors. I hope that you have a great Christmas and a Happy (and profitable) New Year!!
Cal
usta: Do you know what the crazy part of the whole Saddam thing is? I can't believe that he was taken alive!! Here is a man who's had two kids killed by the Allied Forces...and he's heavily armed..and is taken alive.
Talk about a failure.
Have a great night and, as you said: "Let's Roll".
Cal
Chris: Thanks! Hey, the other night..I saw the worst movie in the history of TV. A volcanoe in Los Angeles...and thought of ya out there ( further north of course ). Tommy Lee Jones.
See you down the line.
Cal
Duane,
These are some really good people unlike the nonsense we've seen over the years on some other stocks. Unfortunately, you'll see what I mean as we go along. ( and that's all I'll say about that )!!
Hey, have you heard from Blau? I've often wondered how he made out? In any case...good luck and keep the thing positive. I'm pretty sure the moderator's have the bull (s) by the horns here...TG!!
Thanks for the nod D. How about them "indians"...lol.
Cal
Stak: I totally agree. I know you've been on the RB channel (the soap opera it is) for a time too. Since I got into DNAPrint, about 3 years ago now, I have seen the same.
As a matter of fact, I am still holding one company that I was into, Pcc, to the tune of $90k (what can I say..the bubble burst) and I certainly do appreciate every last penny that anyone has invested. It's a gut thing. I just see some people who thrive on doing the gut-twist to some really good people who've put in, in some cases, their last dime.
Since you've been around a while, you know that I've been lucky enough to get in lower, then unlucky enough to have bought more higher, then very happy to have bought in way WAY lower over the years.
I don't trade my shares and have taken the Tax Man out of the equation (until I feel that he can have his share..oh..say within 23 months..lol). I think that buying on the dips has been quite a settling experience. With each purchase I've also sat and watched it go higher then fall back. But, in buying on those dips, I've been more secure in seeing the pattern become more clear.
I've mentioned to a buddy of mine who also posted here that just on the buying spree on the dips...it serves to take that "upset stomach" feeling away when we shink back. Accumulation and holding has worked for me. It is not for everyone...that's for sure.
Opposed to this is the person or group, or even entity, that seeks to bring it down by malicious means. They pump and then sell..and then try to get it lower on BS posting...then annouce they're back in.
As I've said, on both boards, I don't have any problem with anyone trading the company every two seconds. My issue is in saying it's great on Monday, Selling on Tuesday, Bashing on Wednesday and Thursday...and then buying on Friday.
People don't need the anxiety attack they create. On that we can all agree. I was reading you remark about your pp. It must be tough to see that and see that you're down to less than 2/3's of your money.
I can only say that I was in the same boat...decided by luck and circumstance this was the place to be...and bought a heck of a lot more on these dips. It will allow an unsure investor the opportunity to get back capital if needed for sure...but for me, being very long, it allows me to just sit and watch and thank goodness I bought on the dips because some of my purchases were at much higher levels than this.
So, in essence, I understand you completely, having been there myself. That's why I was referring to a post earlier as Good Grief. I just doubt that a lot of people would put up the aggressive stuff (post) they do, on a penny stock, and expect someone who's been in a long time (me) seen the pps go north, south, sideways, and expect someone who's "been there and done that"..to take it.
Anyway, another long winded response by me in attempting to verbalize how I appreciate your investment, economic impact, and ideas. I can only say that I shared them at one stage of my life...and then learned the real value of averaging down when committed.
Lastly, I am also in tune on the family connection tie in. I've put some serious shares into Trust for my Indians too. I did it for my own reasons. I just chuckle when I realize that my kids have more at stake than some (what I believe truly is) manipulation by a bunch of kids in some back room at some dumpy flop house.
Those of us who own the shares know what I/you mean. And lastly, lol, about a year and a half ago, I stopped looking at my IRA and just put the envelope into a drawer for future reference!
Good luck..hang tough...and we'll see.
Cal
usta: In a million years...and in a million ways..you'd never have to even think of apologizing to me. Even in your post you left open the option that you'd looked at it the wrong way. And I appreciate the delicate way you took issue with it.
Thank you for letting me (much winded I may add) respond. I think that I take issue with the same stunts that you see others pulling.
But, I would sincerely say this: I enjoy the opportunity to agree and even disagree. We'll all be fine...Once again, I am thankful for your open mind, even in light of my part of it. Btw..reading your response...you've got a good heart. And it's meaning comes through loud and clear.
Happy Holiday Season,
Cal
usta: (Boys, you're minor leaguer's. And, IF I am wrong about your intentions (which I seriously doubt) so be it. But I will offer this advice: If you can only scrap together enough to buy 150k shares...buy another stock if you can't handle the possiblility you may lose it)
(I feel dreadful that you may think I "pee'd" on the lesser shareholder. I put the germaine part of my post back up). I hope it mends that fence.
Cal
usta: I agree. I am certainly throwing BACK the stone that was tossed towards me. I didn't intend to disparage anyone. I think you own the company's shares.
I was simply mentioning that number of shares (IN LIGHT OF WHAT SOMEONE WOULD TRY TO INTIMATE IN A DISPARAGING REMARK TOWARDS ME OR WHAT I POST) is superfluous. Just as you can easily believe that I was disparaging anyone with "only 150k shares ( which I was not ) I am simply drawing attention by way of larger print my focus. That was, MOST IMPORTANTLY, not in the 150k number..BUT IN THE way something was mentioned to me.
More succcinctly, I don't have an issue with someone who owns 10 shares or 100k shares. I have an issue with BS.
I viewed those posts to me as disparaging and, even though you have my assurance that I was not doing the same to others like you for example, whom I believe do own DNAPrint shares, it's the likes of the subtle dope who show up and fire a shot for what I believe are other...less than "honest" reasons, whom I was addressing.
Now I think that if you would read my response and look at what I wrote before and after I mentioned the 150k number you'll see a bit deeper into what I meant.
Other than that...lol..yep, I agree with ya..you misunderstood it.
And, lastly, lol....I do appreciate your remark. In fact, I welcome it as being a true and honest misunderstanding of what I had written. (unlike whom I was referring to when I wrote last evening to others).
I agree about the stones too. I did throw it back...emphasis on BACK.
Thanks for you consideration. I do see that you may have felt 'slighted' if you believed I was referring to you a part of that group. I wasn't. And, thankfully and hopefully, if you take what I just wrote..and re-read what my post did say...I hope this sheds a better light on what I "felt" and then you'll agree.
Dick..lol..but, even if you don't agree it still changes nothing on my end. I just would like you to know I respect the guts of every single investor...and have no respect for someone (et al) who I feel is up for/to playing games. And I don't feel you are in any way, shape, or for(um)..lol.
Thank you for you note...I hope this helped!!!
Cal
I have to say this: The sheer transparency of people who post under different names...is both humorous and, sadly, indicative of just how much money can be made to "manipulate" a stock message board.
Look, I respect every investor, but the literally "penny-ante" antics of a few who "say" they own shares ( and if you do..good for you ) is so bourgeoise.
Keep the crap on RB, it is a perfect place for it. Ima, for example, you took a simple note I put up here last week, for buddylee(sp?) and put the same exact post on RB. Why? What's the name of the game guy?
Boys, you're minor leaguer's. And, IF I am wrong about your intentions (which I seriously doubt) so be it. But I will offer this advice: If you can only scrap together enough to buy 150k shares...buy another stock if you can't handle the possiblility you may lose it.
Maybe in another life you can have real money..and not play money.
Like I said earlier...Good Grief Charlie Brown. Take care fellows....I wish you guys luck. If you can knock the pps down to something less that .02...I'll buy more. But, just remember, recess ends soon.
Cal
Oh brother...lol. Bye billyb. Good grief Charlie Brown.
But I did think they only used the tongue depressor to check for a poison "suicide pill" ala Hermann Goring. Not to do a DNA Test.
Cheers,
Cal
Saddam Hussein Captured Alive Near Tikrit
6 minutes ago
By HAMZA HENDAWI, Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD, Iraq - American forces captured a bearded Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) as he hid in the cellar of a farmhouse near his hometown of Tikrit, ending one of the most intensive manhunts in history. The arrest, eight months after the fall of Baghdad, was carried out without a shot fired and was a huge victory for U.S. forces.
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· Initial Tests Show Captured Man Is Saddam
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· Saddam Hussein Captured Alive Near Tikrit
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· Saddam captured in 'underground crawlspace' near Tikrit
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Special Coverage
"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him," U.S. administrator L. Paul Bremer told a news conference. "The tyrant is a prisoner."
Saddam was captured Saturday at 8:30 p.m. in a specially prepared "spider hole" in the cellar in the town of Adwar, 10 miles from Tikrit, Lt Col. Ricardo Sanchez said. The hole was six to eight feet deep, camouflaged with bricks and dirt and supplied with an air vent to allow long periods inside.
In the capital, radio stations played celebratory music, residents fired small arms in the air and others drove through the streets, shouting, "They got Saddam! They got Saddam!"
At the news conference announcing his capture, U.S. forces aired a video showing a bearded Saddam being examined by a doctor holding his mouth open with a tongue depressor, apparently to get a DNA sample. Saddam was showing touching his beard during the exam.
Then a video was shown of Saddam after he was shaved.
Iraqi journalists in the audience stood, pointed and shouted "Death to Saddam!" and "Down with Saddam!"
"The captive has been talkative and is being cooperative," Sanchez said. Saddam was being held at an undisclosed location, and U.S. authorities have not yet determined whether to hand him over to the Iraqis for trial. Iraqi officials want him to stand trial before a war crimes tribunal created last week.
Ahmad Chalabi, a member of Iraq (news - web sites)'s Governing Council, said Sunday that Saddam will be put on trial.
"Saddam will stand a public trial so that the Iraqi people will know his crimes," said Chalabi told Al-Iraqiya, a Pentagon (news - web sites)-funded TV station.
Two other Iraqis were also arrested in the raid and two AK-47 assault rifles, a pistol and $750,000 in $100 bills were seized, Sanchez said.
Sanchez described Saddam's demeanor during the arrest, saying he seemed "a tired man. Also I think a man resigned."
Forces from the 4th Infantry Division along with Special Forces captured Saddam, the U.S. military said. There were no shots fired or injuries in the raid, called "Operation Red Dawn," said Sanchez.
British Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites) welcomed Saddam's capture.
"This is very good news for the people of Iraq. It removes the shadow that has been hanging over them for too long of the nightmare of a return to the Saddam regime," he said in a statement released by his office.
In Baghdad, shop owners closed their doors, worried that all the shooting would make the streets unsafe.
"I'm very happy for the Iraqi people. Life is going to be safer now," said 35-year-old Yehya Hassan, a resident of Baghdad. "Now we can start a new beginning."
Earlier in the day, rumors of the capture sent people streaming into the streets of Kirkuk, a northern Iraqi city, firing guns in the air in celebration.
"We are celebrating like it's a wedding," said Kirkuk resident Mustapha Sheriff. "We are finally rid of that criminal."
"This is the joy of a lifetime," said Ali Al-Bashiri, another resident. "I am speaking on behalf of all the people that suffered under his rule."
In Tikrit, U.S. soldiers from the 4th Infantry Division, the unit that is responsible for security in Saddam's hometown, were smoking cigars after hearing the news of Saddam's capture.
Despite the celebration throughout Baghdad, many residents were skeptical.
"I heard the news, but I'll believe it when I see it," said Mohaned al-Hasaji, 33. "They need to show us that they really have him."
Ayet Bassem, 24, walked out of a shop with her 6-year-old son.
"Things will be better for my son," she said. "Everyone says everything will be better when Saddam is caught. My son now has a future."
"This success brings closure to the Iraqi people. We now have final resolution. Saddam Hussein will never return to a position of power from which he can punish, terrorize, intimidate and exploit the Iraqi people as the did for more than 35 years," Sanchez said.
After invading Iraq on March 20 and setting up their headquarters in Saddam's sprawling Republican Palace compound in Baghdad, U.S. troops launched a massive manhunt for the fugitive (news - Y! TV) leader, placing a $25 million bounty on his head and sending thousands of soldiers to search for him.
Saddam's sons Qusai and Odai — each with a $15 million bounty on their heads — were killed July 22 in a four-hour gunbattle with U.S. troops in a hideout in the northern city of Mosul. The bounties were paid out to the man who owned the house where they were killed, residents said.
A Governing Council member, Jalal Talabani, told Iran's official news agency, IRNA, that Saddam's detention will bring stability to Iraq.
"With the arrest of Saddam, the source financing terrorists has been destroyed and terrorist attacks will come to an end. Now we can establish a durable stability and security in Iraq," Talabani was quoted as saying.
mj....LOLOLOLOL. Way funny.
ima: I do think that it is cool for you to mention that statistic though. I am only wondering what the "recovery" was for stocks, trading in this same time period, which were trading for .001 (sorry..I alluded to .05 earlier) to 5 cents. Forget those trading higher than 5 cents in that same time period. Now that would be gratifying to know.
Keep those with a higher pps out. I can only wonder out loud, what the new numbers would be.
Anway..Good luck and Happy Holidays,
Cal
ima: Thanks for pointing that out. Look, I don't mind being wrong, but you're citing the ENTIRE FIELD, and that field has all of those stocks...grouped together..right? And there is a world of difference between a company that has a pps of $5 bucks per share vs which are at this level...IN THIS FIELD and they have NOTHING to do with DNAPrint and it's history, story, and activity.
The central point, and one that you seem to not be understanding, and what I AM talking about ( and I've tired to make it more clear ) is this:
You mentioned the RECOVERY of the MARKET. I didn't. I was mentioning the SURVIVAL of DNAPRINT IN IT. You mention all those companies which have recovered from the "Recession" that listed for anywhere from .05-$5.00 and tell me the average recovery percentage. Thanks for that, but I already am aware of that..but did appreciate your note.
I guess you missed my point. They RECOVERED as in THEY WENT BACK TO SOMETHING DNAP HAS NOT REACHED in level, scope, confidence, stockholder confidence, etc. Btw, most of them probably have revenues of substance?? (relative and substantial). DNAPrint did not. And that invalidates the statistics anyway.
Each company has it's own story..and DNAPrints is not very much like all those in that stat..ie...Biotech, TBF challenged, etc.
Anyway, I guess my original point was too vague on what I was meanng vs writing. But, the statistics you mention are very good for determining what is going on in the entire market but, in my view and in my referral earlier, are Market Wide condidtions that have little to do with DNAPrint as a specific identity simply because TO RECOVER....YOU HAVE TO HAD BEEN SOMEWHERE. Which, I don't think we've visited yet.
All of this, which seems now be the issue, puts us outside the "Recovery Statistics" you've cited. But, this is only my opinion.....and you're certanly entitled to yours.
Enjoy the day.
Cal
Enjoy the weekend everyone...it is way late. Peace.
its: Your first sentence. Are you being serious?? Didn't we have a PR or two in the last two weeks??? Aren't there 3 years of small deals and associations, contacts, etc???
As for evidence, Do you know what Gabe bring's to the table?? ( as in contacts, point people???) How about his credentials? You can't cite NO EVIDENCE as being EVIDENCE of NOTHING???...lol. Well, you can but, not being serious about it.
Let's see. I have, personally bought out before the fact, TBF being fired, the collaboration with N.Y.U, and about 2 or three P.R's over the past 3 years...and the latest being in May when I made a direct reference on RB about the Newspapers and the famous NC comments about the LA Killer, and the "late day buy (trading) pattern that would proceed that story and did. I put that message in a direct post where I asked anyone else to pick up the darn phone ( maybe a receptionist did...lol) and call the reporters. I did. And got an earful.
I mentioned the European Trip month's and month's ago..and well...lol...yep. There is more.
But its...you don't really mean to say that the receptionist could have really done that..do you??? And, your comment about the money is dead on to what I wrote here the other day. They may not even need the bucks. Who knows??? Lamont Cranston does.
If you own DNAPrint Stock..good for you. If you don't...good for you...if the pps goes down and you buy...good for you.
It's all good baby...
Cal
Everyone have a great day on Sunday! eom.
LOL..which bring's me to the original point..without Dr. Frudakis and his leadership ( by ending the relationship with TBF ) we'd be dead. Nobody is tossing money at companies without some valid reason...and you can read that as science.
Cal
ima: The markets are not roaring for companies needing venture funding. That's what I'm talking about. Not the big boy companies like CSCO, or WMGI.
There is a fundamental difference between the market recovery of the mainstays...and the market survivability of Penny Stocks.
Don't confuse the two...I sure don't.
Cal
billyb: The shorter answer. Don't confuse my comment about Gabe's role ( or perception of NON-role ) to my remark about Dr. Frudakis. I think he's a whiz, and doing a great job against all kinda odd's.
Thanks!!
Cal
billyb: I think you've misinterpreted what I was intending. I will try to explain what I was mentioning in my post ( even though it may be easier to just read the post from itsonly and follow it up to here).
I was referring to itsonly's remark about what Gabe is doing or not doing ( and that's why I quoted it ) and just mentioned that "behind the scene" stuff is something we may never know and therefore can't mention. Which is why I quoted itsonly's post.
Then...
As far as Dr. F, I don't know what you mean by it. I think that, before I look at it, you somehow have tied my remarks to itsonly's about Gabe...to how well I think Dr. Frudakis has done in guiding the company ( as a start up in a pretty lousy market..complete with predatory company python's like TBF..to a "higher ground" ..ala, La Jolla, pp's, and partnerships/alliances.
I think, before I look back and see where our, or even my miscommunication was born, is that somehow my remarks about how good I think Dr. Frudakis has done...are tied to the work ( or even evidentual non-work perception ) of Gabe.
Your interpretation about what you think I may have said about his role, is not valid. Please give the posts another look.
I think Dr. Frudakis is a very darn good leader and, for a rookie, an astute business man ( especially in this market). And also, without him...TBF would've swallowed us up..spit us out...and proceeded to find another company to goose.
Cal
Actaully...I take back the "how". You sat and typed it of course!!
Itsonly: How and why did you write this? "Doesn't anyone else find it just a little irritating that Gabriel and his girlfriend have done nothing as yet with regards to running the company".
There is nobody who knows what these people are doing to run the company. None of us can speak about deals, associations, contacts, point people...none of it.
Also, respectfully, I disagree. Tony IS a business man. The degree of his success as that will be determined later. At face value, under your hypothesis, we have a guy who goes out and get's million's of dollars for financing ( both TBF's, and now La Jolla's..in conjuction with other deals ) and you're saying he is NOT a business man?
The associations that this man brings to the company are important in my opinion. Hey, as far as that goes, they must be to Frudakis too, he hired him and his little start up company, albeit on the backs of the shareholders ( who go in Eyes Wide Open ), is still here in perhaps the most difficult economic down turn since the 70's, and perhaps even the 30's.
Cal
Cal
I think that everyone has to understand that saying you can do something...and shooting for that goal...may see years pass between them coming to fruition. Things pop up in life and put us all on hold everyday. I can only imagine the types of unknowns that occur in this field.
I would expect that it is better to go slowly and make sure you get it right..rather than botch it and be held up for ridicule be the scientific community ( from which the accolades..by way of networking...demonstrate to us that we're on the right side of ).
Realistically, the plan has been altered to fit the discovery and science advancement. I'm sure DNAPrint found out many things that they were not even aware of three years ago..as far as road-blocks, pitfalls, or bumps in the path.
Besides all of which the bottom line will still be it has to be universally accepted for us to make money. I appreciate the idea you present..but it is more important for DNAPrint to get it right than it is for him/us to watch the clock.
Have a great day,
Cal
Oh God! eom.
mj: Also, DNAPrint would not be "only the second company to get accreditation". There are other labs, in the various Districts of the U.S, that I believe are already there. I think either I or someone else mentioned them last month.
Cal
mjam: In case you read here( I couldn't get RB to post for like 1/2 hour)
RE: Your question from the RB. I think that it is going to lead us to those ever-elusive you stock interest generating, steady revenues that every other company that is doing well has.
The best part about it, as far as I am concerned is this: We've already been instumental in 2 cases. The fact that we can "infer" to a degree of certainty is the issue is our bread and butter.
As stated before Any DNA Forensic Lab (wannabee) can do DNA Testing. Why not? It gets a DNA Sample, from the victim, the perp, or X, and tries to "match" it to another sample.
DNAPrint's forte is that it can go a step BEYOND in those cases where the POLICE ARE LOOKING FOR SUSPECTS ( as in the La Case ). It can narrow the scope to a specific type of individual..with specific traits ( and it's going to get better ). This will save Law Enforcement Dept's a ton of cash....and put that cash into DNAP's coffers.
With accreditation alone..let alone the acceptance of this new technology, i.e. Ancestry Versions will draw a ton of them toward us..
And why not? The police may not know that the dude who did the crime was X with YZ traits if he/she didn't have a sample available at Codis. This opens the door to, imo, thousanda of new cases in the United States...let alone the rest of the Globe.
When we get Accreditation...who wouldn't want our service??? It would be a no-brainer.
Cal