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Agreed 100%.
So have you tried aquaprin? If trusting press releases and accountants is what you call DD, then buy the stock. Problem is you cant trust anyone paid by the company, as they have incentive to see the sp go up. True DD involves trying the product and analyzing the books yourself. And just because someone appraises the ip at 32 million that does not mean anyone would pay it if the company went bankrupt. An appraiser once said my house was worth 135000. I paid 60,000. In other words somthing is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.
You are the one I refer to who say he has tried it. And I would love a sample but Im not up to a road trip to try it. (like all the others on this board who hype the stock asbeing the nextbig thing)
So my point that only one person on this board has tried the product is correct.
My point being I am going to be one of the least biased people on this board. I dont short sell so no one can accuse me of that. If nothing else I should be hyping this stock so here it goes....$50.00 by christmas imo........just saying
Probably the most telling is that out of everyone on the board hyping aquaprin, only one person claims to have tried it. Everyone else is trusting the news and DD of one person......just saying
Drive by.....I have been watching this stock/board since April. Thought it was a winner but it is now looking like a trash stock. Glad I dont have any skin in the game, but Im watching it still in case that I am wrong.......not likely .......and either way watching this stock/board is very entertaining
Let us know how that goes. It looks to me like Pharmstar is pumping the stock and selling more shares. The company is starting to look pretty suspect imho. Maybe we should report Phar as a potential scam. Just saying.........
In the specific case of surfguy's point, his backing for what he said was his own logic and intuition. We can all debate the logic, and perhaps learn something from each other in the process. But IMO logic is better proof of a claim than using numbers given by the company. (which want's to look good in the eyes of investors)
I love your point about verification. For example the company said they bought a new building and someone verified it with a visit and some pictures. The more verification that comes out the more people will start to believe in phar
Speculation is fine with me. I was just saying it is unfair to ask someone to back their claims when no one can back their claims. (I will grant one item that is not speculation-the new building. However if someone placed a $ value on the building that would become speculation). I dont think that dillution is holding the sp down. That is the fact that the product is over a year away from coming to the market.
No one in this chat room can support their claims. The only one who knows anything is Howard. Everything else you hear is pure speculation and trust or mistrust in a person who nobody has spent more than a few days with. Using my gut I think Howard believes in his product and there is potential for this stock to take off on its own (no awareness campaigns needed).
Any person who guesses where this stock will end up is making a baseless claim. And I know some will argue that the IP is worth 32 million, and that puts the stock value at x dollars, but that is a value given by one company hired by pharmstar. Another company might look and value the IP at 10 million. So people should really just let supply and demand determine what the price should be instead of guessing
I agree, but I wish that they would not preach about no dillution when it seems to me they are ding just that.
Human nature is to go for quick gains. Pharmstar Stock will not be going up for at least a year. Hence the reason we will see the price continue its downward trend.
The core of long term investers admittingly manipulate the pps. I believe the term they use is "paint" Monday will only show me how much the company paid for an awareness campaign. Nothing more. That said, this company has good long term prospects so at least the bag holders have something to look forward to if they hold on long enough..
Thanks. I have seen those words in other boards so I thought it was OK. I will use the term "awareness campaigner's" from now on:)
I don't think my expectation is flawed. Since I started watching this stock it has went from 2.3 down to 1.0 That is over a 50% drop. The only way this stock will go up in the short term is an "awareness campaign" and the effects of this will be short lived. I will just sit and watch as impatient investors sell their shares for dirt cheap and I will be picking them up closer to the bottom.
Pointing out that there is obviously an "awareness program" happening gets your post deleted? I'm sorry for pointing it out, but it really does nothing for the stock in the long run. I am an investor and I am waiting for the share price to come down in order to buy in. Right now the only way the company will gain by paying for an "awareness program" is if they are going to sell more shares to raise money for the company. (to be clear I would have no problem with that happening IF the CEO was not repeatedly stating that there would be no more dilution)
I'm not trying to unnaturally push the stock price down via this post. If anyone sells based off what they read from a random guy on the internet says they are stupid.
I still believe in this company which is why I'm still bothering to read this board. I think they were pressured by some investors to get the share price up and finally caved in. For those who are in favor of a promotion keep in mind the only way a high share price benefits investors is if you sell your shares of the stock.
How many people were on the conference call? When I came in there were only 7 people on the call. I heard 2 join in, one being Howard. How can a CC with 9 people on it have that big of an effect on the pps? What we have are a few smart INVESTORS taking shares for as cheap as they can. I know the PPS is eventually going to rise, so I love watching this fall short term so that I can accumulate more at lower prices. INVESTORS are bid sitting while some sell at the bid to free up funds for a quicker potential gain. That is what is going down here. Not manipulation, short selling, adverse impact of CC, etc.
For those who are true investors this company is a great choice. You may have to wait a year before your investment pays off, but it will. Now is a great time to accumulate some shares at a low price before people start to hear about the company through Howard's awareness campaign.
Thanks for the cheapies.
Well if they do at least they have their money in the closest thing to a sure bet in pennyland.
I woke up early this morning. This one is starting a run today that will last until tommorow. It may hit .10-.15 by eod with more to come Friday
I wouldn't worry about the objections. That is just their way of getting a bigger piece of the pie. Both of those issues will be resolved in negotiations before tomorrow.
This is a solid buy right now. Using the numbers that look most likely to me, I calculated that shareholders should be paid 7-10 cents/share after all is said and done. (sorry to those of you who are trying to pump this one up to a dollar, but I don't see it.)
Terrestar is as close to a sure bet as you are going to find in pennyland. Buy today so you can have fun getting rich during tomorrow's epic run.
I'm holding until Thursday. We are going to have an epic run. Watch and enjoy
Thanks for the pictures.