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shouldn't be much different from the last. aren't they just about out of cash now? I know last I checked they had a little left but that was probably 6 months ago when I last bothered to look.
I know they took a loan for lawyers. but haven't looked at the terms on that. obviously its gotta be a convertible.
why people cant see this elephant in the room is puzzling..
ZERO risk.. oh and we uh lost 2.5 million in the last 3 months.
theres possibilities here sure but they gotta pay bills somehow.
until settlements or sales get to that point dumping shares is the only answer.
see what develops out of this quarterly report.
you could be right.. im hanging around. not buying today though..
you should probably explain that to the people who are down 50% in the last month.
there is no such thing as zero risk.
as of right now it would appear that everyone that sold to here would agree with what im saying.
dilution and bad quarterly reports are not smiled on..
im not sure if theyre diluting again yet.. but we'll find out shortly.
lmao.. sooo you're telling me secret agent bond is following SFOR around..
oh ok..
unfortunately im all out of aluminum hats.
why wouldn't you believe reality? it did sell off. its a pretty risky buy right now.
this quarterly should be just as poor as the past. im betting on a dilution disclosure listed in subsequent events..
could snap back a bit here but that's a long way down.
better hope the 8 mil bid sticks around is all im sayin.
government agencies are not privately owned law firms. we could continue repeating ourselves and bring them up the reality is simple..
law firms don't leak..
law firms that do leak don't have clients and they get sued by the former clients whos trust they violated..
a lawyer or firm that leaks might as well be a lepper.
nobody is going to touch em..
it doesn't happen..
maybe we should try using the IRS or DMV next to make our point.. im sure if we repeat things it'll make it true.
ok so.. whos in the room for the negotiation other than the clients and the firm? it is not an open proceeding.
this isn't politics. its lawyers. lawyers who have loose lips don't have good reputations or clients knocking on their door and firms that represent big companies on multimillion dollar retainers did not get that way by leaking information.
could it happen sure.. is it likely absolutely not..
attorney client priviledge is the #1 rule in the attorney client relationship.
if they wanted it public they would do so openly in public court. violating that trust is career suicide let alone the possible liabilities that would come from being sued by your former client.
it is not common practice.. that I can assure you. the only people in the room are attorneys, clients and a mediator if needed.
EYETALK are not lawyers.
eyetalk was created by ALI and CARTER
CARTER filed a patent directly to EYETALK
EYETALK hired lawyers.
if the lawyers win eyetalk gets money minus what the attorneys are owed for winning.
revo gets 40% of whats left.
REVO gets the money and pays debt owed to Ali and carter.
EYETALK is not public. I am not public. I do not have to tell how much money I get paid. ali and carter are not public they do not have to tell how much money. therefore EYEtalk does not have to tell how much money.
REVO has stopped reporting to the public.. REVO must tell how much money. REVO did not do it. REVO was punished by the government for not telling the truth. now.. REVO can not sell stock. after. REVO created new stock. the new stock is owned by ali and carter. the new stock gets money. the old stock you own does not.
that's ridiculous. because terms are obviously known by the parties involved. however.. no reputable high power firm leaks.. they all have a very high incentive to keep the confidence of clients.
if you were a firm on retainer by microsoft would you dare jeopardize their confidence? I think not.
a firm that burns clients trust can quickly lose tens of millions of dollars in an instant and lose their reputation.. costing them millionos more in future clients..
every one at the firm has a 100% vested interest in keeping their lips shut especially partners in the firm.
they cannot bypass this issue. SFOR is a public company and as such must report revenues generated.
that being said..
you wont have the whole picture..
for example.. if it were installments of 100 grand per month with a final payment of 2 million and a percentage of sales..
the money you will see come in..
what you wont see is the terms of how fast and by what means it occurs.
you will see the money.. you wont see grand totals agreed upon, when or for how long.. its possible it could come through in a forward guidance type of statement I suppose.
your shares are named "common" shares.
Common shares do not get any money.
the owners of the preferred shares get cash.
the owners of the company Ali and Carter are who own preferred shares.
Ali also owns all of the debt. that debt must be paid.
there is no declaration of money or a dividend to common shareholders.
the only value common shares have is what they can be sold for.
EYETALK is a private company.. they do not have to tell anyone how much money they got.
REVO is a public company.. but.. they have been caught and no longer report to the public.
both REVO and EYTALK are owned by Ali and Carter.
if money comes in. REVO and EYETALK pay ALI and Carter.
you the common shareholder owe them money. REVO is in debt.
hope that helps.
its against the law.. you tell me.. I settled a lawsuit with an NDA in my favor and ive never said a thing nor will I.
its a legally binding contract.. I would find it unlikely that reputable firms disclose information on a "wink wink" basis..
reputation, confidence, and attorney client privilege is one of the most highly respected rules in the field. I doubt a reputable firm would in any way disrespect this common principle.
in short to answer your question.. no.. I don't think they have other sources that have things passed on.
a firm that releases info directly or indirectly is not reputable, should not be trusted and would lose clients in a hurry if it were the case..
people don't pay attorneys the money they do to be subverted and if they are caught doing so they are liable for damages and sanctions.
you would be surprised. Im bs'ing on another "patent" pink literally right now..
These patents are not owned by REVO.. they sold them to EYETALK. the agreement ends when the patents expire..
don't take my word for it go read it for yourself.
its hard to have faith when the owners of REVO literally sold the patents out from under innocent people who believed in them to themselves in order to rip them off..
patent continuations were literally filed by RON Carter directly to EYETALK.. this even further shows just how scandalous these crooks are... you pay his salary yet he files patent continuations to EYETALK.. now every settlement that lists that contiunuation is 100% going to them.. and zero here..
microsoft was a big lump sum settlement. the next ones are not likely to look like that. NDA's are very common in settlements as they merely are not discussed or disclosed, nor are they an admission of guilt.
so I would absolutely disagree with you..
1 I haven't seen anything official that states an NDA has been reached
however..
an NDA is in fact an announcement of case settlement. SFOR gets their money and whoever they sued doesn't have to have their name broadcast as having rolled over.
then when the next case is brought.. all the opposing attorneys know is that previous cases have been settled as the patents were indeed reasserted as being valid.. the moving party has set precedence and opposing attorneys are at a disadvantage.. thus the speed of settlements increases.
not unless you file a suit. Common stock shareholders of REVO or in other words "longs" owe money.
the last financial statement showed millions of debt. that debt has been accumulating and compounding. plus ALi's salary longs owe him..
a civil suit will need to be filed on behalf of shareholders based on fraudulent information and then damages awarded.. I see no such action taken and ive heard of no individuals seeking out attorneys to take the case.
at the end of the day.. The SEC cares as much as the people whom have been subject to the fraud.. someone put a # up for a contact at the SEC maybe you should call them and ask what sort of attorney to contact or maybe they'll actually give you a reference.. there arte tons of consumer protection agencies that I would bet would surely be interested. that's what attorneys do..
most likely they'll do it for free based on contingency too.. what do you have to lose that already hasn't been decimated.. its either ALi rides of in the sunset to his nice home and new Mercedes or you make a few phone calls and get whats yours.
you've been scammed don't sit on a message board and do nothing about it.. go after his arse.. by the way.. just saying there are extra financial incentives to the person whom initially brings and files the case with an attorney. you get paid for your time and energy in addition to whatever may come from a settlement.
I flipped that's for sure. who turns down a quick 40%? not this guy.
NDA is nothing new or normal. the attorneys nor the company want this openly disclosed as it can be used in later litigation as a point of reference in future amounts agreed upon.
ultimately it will show up in the financial statements as this is a public company.
That's the problem. they sold your patents. well.. they didn't really sell them for cash. Garbage Ali transferred notes to someone at EYETALK or EYETALK themselves as a company and then just gave them back to REVO in exchange for the patents and claimed they got 750k or 75 k.. whatever it was.
my understanding is that revo I supposed to get 40% of whats left after fee's etc.
you are partially correct about money going to revo shareholders..
yes "some" REVO shareholders are getting money if it came in. the problem is who and how.
THE SEC banished REVO from trading therefore the shares are worthless. in order to get any money out because REVO shareholders owe millions in debt, Garbage Ali and 'honest" Ron created a new series of shares that pay them cash dividends.
they had to do this because the convertible notes and shares they owned prior to the SEC flushing this trash are now unable to be dumped on the public to get the money.. with exception to notes that are payable in cash.
Ali, Carter and EYETALK aren't going to issue a single peep about any money coming in. they are a private company and in addition its abundantly clear that the only employee left at REVO whom still collects a 6 figure check per year has no intention of disclosing that info either.
if the patents are indeed producing and are valid.. then ALi has been sitting back and simply lapping up the gravy. meanwhile longs.. left with millions lost all on lies by a proven con man.
the evidence is over whelming. ultimately legwork would need to be put into the finances of EYETALK and any money transferred from them to REVO. basically they are embezzling money is the way I see it.
theres no doubt in my mind they subverted shareholders with the whole selling themselves the patents scam. Honest ron even submitted patent continuations under eyetalk. not sure what other evidence you would need.
they deliberately misled shareholders into buying stock that was generated via the dilution of convertible notes owned by garbage ali.
must we say this again? Revo exists merely as a way to suck any remaining revenues that come in via preferred shares.
Eyetalk owns the patents until the date they are expired. so yes they own them
if Eyetalk is getting settlements the bulk of that money goes to garbage ali and honest ron..
as outlined in the "sale" lol... of those patents.. a percentage comes back to REVO..
REVO has millions of debt owed.. who owns the debt? Garbage Ali..
how do they get the cash out of REVO's books and into their bank accounts..
simple..
They created interest bearing cash dividend stock ( as clearly spoke about and disclosed in 8k form) after they were booted from the SEC in order to move the cash
you will never hear a peep from these clowns again. they simply sop up the gravy.. if there is any. according to last I heard they were settling suits so.. you tell me..
Nobody is going to come forward to save anybody. start looking for representation or all that's going to happen is whats already happening.. Nothing.
Ron is guilty. he took money when he was separated from REVO in the form of cash bearing shares.. he is not on your side nor will he be unless or until the feds come knocking.
REVO screamed scam for years. it was easy to see..
The financial statements were laced with debt and lies which were pointed out multiples of times. even with all the dilution REVO did nothing to either market or produce a single product and instead sold all the interest for the patents to EYETALK which we know is ROn and Garbage ali also..
literally selling the patents out from under longs back to themselves in a private company.. now they get it all..
they get the revenue on the EYETALK end and they mop all the rest of the money on the REVO end because the company owes money to preferred shareholders and note holders..
its literally the most disgusting piece of fraud ive seen to date.. your shares are worthless not even eligible for bids.. meanwhile they purposely do nothing and lap up all the gravy longs were told was coming..
$TGB yep im still holding form the buy at 2.25 I think maybe the delay in shipping product that occurred last quarter may be an actual blessing in disguise. Copper prices have risen quite a bit last quarter so it could be that the inventory that was not delivered could see higher value when sold.
We'll see.
either way.. theyre currently at 24c per share annualized earnings as of today putting the stock at 10X earnings. still pretty cheap.
$TGB $MNGA its been one of those weeks for me.. time to cut the losses and refocus.
good year.. shit week.. cant win em all.
lol.. just read this.. you are the executor of a trust and you invested family money in REVO shares? that's gotta sting. Id hate to have to justify that bit of genius to the fam.
I guess id wanna erase that from the books too.
god I can only imagine the amount of pain these piece of $hit Criminals have caused on some.. disgusting..
good luck tryng to sell em. sorry for your loss.
I don't think you are quite understanding.. Im going to ask you to do something very simple. go back and read the 8k's disclosing the new classes of shares that were created after the SEC beatdown..
note that after all the promises to come correct with all their lies that they in fact did not do so and instead created NEW CLASSES OF INTEREST BEARING PREFERRED SHARES that can be paid in cash.
despite the lie they were going to fix things they instead side stepped all shareholders and circumvented SEC sanctions because they don't report financials anymore.
People don't seem to realize here that common share holders OWE MONEY 1st and foremost to people that own PREFERRED STOCK and or Noteholders 1st. by admission of the last financial statements that's millions of dollars add to that all the interest accrued since their demise..
who owns all the debt?
Solomon Garbage ALI.. Did we also forget shareholders owe him a 6 figure salary per year? I mean he is your CEO.. you do have to pay for his services right?
when you buy a shares you own a piece of the company. THis company owes Garbage ALI tons of money, therefore you the common shareholder owe him money..
he cant dump shares anymore so what he did was simple. he created new cash payable interest bearing shares so that everyone else here gets nothing..
Even 'honest' RON Carter took the interest bearing shares as the SEC docs indicate before he was removed.
your shares are worthless.. the vast majority of money goes to ALI's scam EYEtalk and the rest is funneled to him and Carter via preferred shares..
bottom line. if you think Ali has any intention of disclosing income and come current you are wrong. why would he.?
in a sense you are correct. money made by revo patents belongs to shareholders.. in this case that means preferred shareholders. you are not a preferred shareholder therefore Solomon ALi and carter PREFER that they get the money. If there is money coming in .. they are getting it..
your common shares are only worth what people will pay for them.. that's it.. and from what I can see there is nobody buying..
maybe try this and see what happens. call ALI.. tell him you want to convert your shares to Preferred shares... Does REVO have a phone # any more or.. has he simply vanished.. in other words the EXACT thing I said he would do all along..
so here longs are as predicted.. DEAD silence. no updates as promised. no bid, triple zero..
your only recourse is to get together and sue.. or do nothing while garbage ALI collects "your Checks" lives in a fat house driving a nice car all on the money you paid with your initial investment plus interest and his salary.
the money is exactly where ALI told you it is. in his pocket. you can choose to read the 8k's or not..
I hope it will too.
Garbage ali is long gone. hiding behind his other company and behind his cash dividend bearing stock they created once the SEC flushed this terd.
call attorneys or just watch him ride off in the sunset with all your money..
revo common shares are worthless.
ya just flipped it for 30% we'll see. no core. good luck.
lookin for 11 to 13ish
adding a couple grand $TGB here earnings in next couple days.
thinking might fall off a cliff here. thin to the downside. sellers lining up.
You need to post it over at the actual phone# here and over at the petition board too. plus the facebook board if it still exists.
nobody should feel bad for being duped regardless of being warned or not. Garbage Ali is a con artist that's what he does. make him pay. good luck.
i don't know.. twice spiked up and hammered back down,. float should be quite low. if momentum we could see a good spike that's why I picked it up.
we'll see. I wont have too much patience here but the spikes are violent I have a sell order at 54
$MNGA buying here on double bottom. in @ .45
lookin for a flip
might be good for a flip. I have been taking a hard look today.. cant decide between that or wyy
talk of reverse split. they aren't making money yet.
Raking chips in here im out..
BREAKING OUT!!! closing the GAP WOOO HOO
WEEEEE goo.. a move above 2 and skyrocket to close the gap..!!
ya us longs are golden
dude...LMao you cant use math.. they'll start throwin up and their heads start spinning like the exorcist.. just say..
to da moon..
we know what we hold..
009's falling..
thin to a dollar..
thanks for the sheepies..
SHORT Squeeze
burn baby burn..
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
you must of forgot to use American bulls or shortsqueeze.com or ihub top ten list indicators..
Anyways.. im rich.. I just made 70 bucks in 30 seconds on my 1 grand investment at the end of the day. hooray..