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Who said anything about an offer being turned down?
I do not base my DD on posts on ihub and I suggest that you do not either
Tucker is the former CEO of Hutchison. Hasn't been with them for years
I have no idea how much if any digi shares they own. I only know that they were all big investors in the early days when this technology was being developed.
Each of them has put a lot of their own money into the development of the patents dating back to Digifonica.
This statement in the PR is more than enough. Remember when they put out a PR they are accountable for everything they say, unlike we who can post whatever suits our objectives with no accountability to any regulatory authority whatsoever
The Blackout only affects past and present Company Directors, Officers, Attorneys, Investor Relations Personnel, Insiders, close associates of Insiders or those perceived to be Insiders as a result of current or prior involvement with Voip-Pal.
Voip-Pal has notified the affected broker dealers, stock clearing firms, and all affected shareholders. The transfer agent for Voip-Pal has been informed and instructed not to process any transfers during the Blackout Period involving all covered persons and/or entities.
So who is benefiting from this "manipulation?" Your accusation does not make sense because the insiders are restricted from selling. If they cannot benefit financially then what is their motivation to employ such "scam" techniques?
You are correct. They have said all along that buyout is #1 option and I would think that licensing is a very distant 2nd
If they were going to put out a bogus balance sheet, I would think they would be better at faking some revs
I hope so. What a crazy ride the last few weeks have been.
I like it. They are doing everything by the book. BTW, been on vacation and got back last night. I should go away more often LOL
We all preferred the price in the .20s but I have said over and over again that this technology does what it does regardless of where the pps is. I am still a fir believer. We have seen these drops before
Thanks.
Interesting. How do you know he is an angel investor in VPLM? I can't see the connection.
You are right it cannot hurt. Having said that Voip-Pal is not a patent troll although some have accused them of such. They actually developed technology, not just acquired patents to enforce them which is a patent troll by definition. When VPLM acquired Digifonica there were ZERO issued patents.
That is a great point Clueless. They are showing their confidence in this technology by putting their money where their mouth is and leaving themselves open to prosecution if they are not telling the truth. At the very least it should give investors confidence that they are all in.
As WiFI grows and replaces cell towers, it plays right into VPLM's hand
How plain, old WiFi will revolutionize the cellular industry
BY BRIAN FUNG
November 21, 2013 at 4:20 pm
(philcampbell / Flickr)
(philcampbell / Flickr)
It's easy to forget that WiFi has actually gotten faster over time. In 2003, your garden variety WiFi network managed theoretical speeds of 54 Mbps. Fast forward a decade, and we're now browsing over WiFi, in some cases, at 1 Gbps or more.
Those advances aren't just creating faster Internet experiences. They're also giving rise to a new crop of cellular services. These alternatives to the traditional wireless carrier take advantage of the spread of cheap and plentiful WiFi to deliver low-cost voice, SMS and data in ways that should make the giants in the industry deeply jealous. If the budget-minded upstarts get their way, they could wind up overturning the entire way that cellular service is bought and sold. Here's how.
The country is dominated by four national wireless carriers that operate their own networks. These companies charge relatively high prices. Some of the cost is justified; in addition to providing your mobile service, the companies have to invest in upgrading towers, buying the airwaves over which your calls travel, and other infrastructure costs.
But the small cellular companies now moving aggressively to shake up this system pay no such costs. Collectively, these businesses are called MVNOs — mobile virtual network operators. By signing deals with the larger businesses, MVNOs get to use those companies' infrastructure without actually having to build it all themselves. In some cases, MVNOs also cut costs by foregoing customer service teams. That can add up to savings that are passed on to consumers.
The idea isn't all that new; in fact, MVNOs are really popular overseas. The United States itself is home to dozens of cellular operators that piggyback off of AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon. But the business model that helped sustain MVNOs through the 1990s and 2000s is changing.
Consider Republic Wireless, a Raleigh-based business that announced this month it would sell Motorola's new flagship phone, the Moto X. Republic enjoys all the traditional advantages of an MVNO — low capital expenditures on infrastructure and spectrum — but it's taken the additional step of cutting out 3G and 4G data use whenever it can. Technically, Republic operates on Sprint's network, but it's more appropriate to think of Sprint as a backup for when a call or message can't be completed over WiFi.
Yes, you read that right: WiFi. Republic's business depends on shunting all of your communications — data, voice, everything — onto the free stuff you get in your office or in coffee shops. What makes this beautiful is that whenever a Republic customer chooses to place a call over WiFi, that saves Republic money. As a result, Republic can offer a $5-a-month plan for unlimited talk, text and data. For another $5 a month, customers get access to Sprint's cellular network (minus 3G). Higher-tier plans provide 3G and 4G Internet on Sprint, though it's almost a joke to call them "higher-tier" when the most expensive plan tops out at just $40 a month. The tiered plan supersedes an old, $19-a-month all-you-can-eat plan.
"The crazy plans at $5 and $10 have never been tried," said CEO David Morken. "That's because we focus on unlicensed spectrum as the primary, and licensed spectrum as the secondary."
That's the opposite of the way traditional wireless companies work. Most national providers place a premium on "licensed spectrum," or spectrum that only they have the rights to. The problem is that while valuable spectrum can help increase call quality, buying the rights is expensive. T-Mobile, for example, is reportedly eyeing a $3 billion spectrum deal with Verizon.
Republic pays none of those costs. What's more, because its parent company is the same one that handles calls made over Google Voice, Vonage and a host of other VoIP services, it's gotten incredibly experienced at not dropping your WiFi calls.
It almost sounds too good. And your mileage will certainly vary, depending on where you are and the strength of your connection. But the business model alone is extraordinary, because it threatens one of the main ways that national wireless companies make their money: selling network access.
Other MVNOs are catching on, too. Toronto-based Ting, which charges you separately for minutes, text and data as you use them (rather than bundling it into one opaque monthly rate), reports seeing data consumption drop by between 50 percent and 75 percent as a result of WiFi offloading.
"Our users switch on WiFi at home and at work on their smartphones so much more than the average user," said Elliot Noss, Ting's CEO.
There's some evidence that the large carriers are relying more heavily on WiFi to manage loads, as well — they're just not talking about it much. The growing demand for WiFi all around is one argument for allocating more spectrum for unlicensed usage ahead of a major spectrum auction in 2014. A recent New America Foundation study reports that WiFi offloading saves the wireless industry $20 billion a year, which amounts to 29 percent of its total annual revenues.
That poses a couple of big problems for us all, actually. In a future where MVNOs and large carriers alike push more of their traffic onto WiFi, the incentives to build new mobile infrastructure begin to erode. Why should a carrier invest in expensive network upgrades if it can provide the same experience by dumping traffic onto a customer's home or office network?
Not only does that create potential pitfalls over the long term, but it also transfers more business to providers of fixed, wireline broadband providers like cable companies, giving them a great deal more bargaining power in the process.
Asked whether he was concerned about potentially kneecapping one incumbent only to replace it with another, Morken laughed.
"One dragon at a time," he said.
Excellent point. It comes down to credibility. If the CEO and BOD are credibly and honorable men, then this is a powerful statement. I believe them to be honorable and credible men and their reputations speak for themselves. imo
That is correct but skype to skype calls are free.
Yes we are. Skype is a perfect example. You can skype for free but it is still using VPLM technology and therefore infringing. They may choose to make their money on ads vs per minute charge but they still have to meter the calls either way
Whether they charge or not is irrelevant. They still need to use RBR to meter the VoIP calls. They pay for using the technology whether they pass that on to the end user or not.
Henerey, here is a thought. Lets forget about any NDA's assuming there are some in place. If you are Thomas Sawyer and you are talking to Microsoft and you decide to announce that in a conference call or a press release your stock would probably fly and shareholders would be ecstatic. Then Microsoft decides that they are better off going in another direction and what happens to your stock? Plummets lower than it was. Shareholders lose big time. Maybe then MSFT comes back and low balls you since you are in a weakened position.
Trust the BOD.
Thats exactly right. There is no pump and no hype. Im sure someone will pull out an article that shows some PR campaign from 2010 or something like that but that is not this CEO and this BOD. They run this company properly and ethically. The funny is thing is that people on this board often scream for more but at the same time they love the fact that there is no pumping or hyping.
NMR, how can a guy like that with those credentials be involved in a pump and dump scam like this?
Mrrhodes, the restriction does not just fall off after a year. The shareholder has to follow several steps and pay fees. In other words they need to want to remove the restriction and take action. I do not expect that will happen. Also as I have mentioned before, the date the certificate is issued is not necessarily the date the holding period begins. For all we know the holding periods could have been up months ago for many of those shares. I do not think there is going to be an insider exodus. These guys believe in what they are doing and will not sell their shares for a fraction of what they believe they are going to get in a sale. None of these guys are hurting for money.
I especially liked this quote from the article:
"Mr Cook said last month Apple was "on the prowl" for more acquisitions, after buying 24 companies in the past 18 months and he was not averse to large acquisitions."
At the end of the day he certainly can sell but I have no reason to not take him at his word.
I believe you are wrong about Malak. On the conference call he made very clear that he had never sold a share and does not intend to sell a share. I have no problem taking him at his word. Additionally, in all likelihood his shares are already through the holding period and he could sell if he wants to. The date on the filing is the date the certificate was issued. That is NOT the day the 1 year holding period begins. The holding period usually begins on the contract date. The Digifonica contract went into affect long before the certificate issue date. Chances are his shares are already eligible.
PNRG, You make a great point. The main reason some are growing restless is because of what you said,
"I know it get's hard to have faith in something when for so long you've felt it was going to be "any day now"…"
That "any day now" mentality did not come from the company. They have never given any dates or time frames. They have only made clear their intentions to sell the company. Our excitement as shareholders over the possibilities has certainly taken on a life of its own and perhaps created an unrealistic time expectation that has some a little weak in the knees right now since they have not sold yet. Being that the 5th patent was just issued a little over a month ago there is no need for anyone to press the panic button just yet. This will sell for a big chunk of money imo. Lets let the BOD do what they have done quite effectively in the past.
Very nice work CEOs
Great opportunity for someone t accumulate a nice piece at one price
Sorry I was looking at the date next to VPLM. They are defintiely not listed on the conference schedule
VoIP-Pal.Com Inc.
April 30, 2013, Undiscovered Equities
Voip-Pal.Com Inc. is a broadband VoIP telecom company offering local and long distance VoIP services to residential and business customers. The company also provides VoIP communication and reseller solutions for its partners. Voip-Pal.Com Inc. is the enabler of international calls using VoIP technology on the internet, smartphones and PC Tablets. Voip-Pal’s goal is to provide a quality, high-speed and cost-effective telephone solution for the casual and business international traveler who must rely on their smartphones, laptops or tablets in order to communicate. Voip-Pal.Com/Digifonica is a technical leader in the VoIP services market which had revenues of $58 Billion in 2011 and is experiencing double digit year-over-year growth[2]. The addition of Digifonica’s Patent Pending Application portfolio greatly enhances shareholder value and will contribute to significant revenue growth for Voip-Pal.Com.
Retail Website: www.platinumphone.com
Corporate Website: www.voip-pal.com
The date on that April 2013
Exactly DeerBalls. I am sure that paper was for the shareholders and not for any potential suitors. I am quite sure they have some much heavier artillery when they speak with the big companies. Im also pretty confident that when they are speaking with companies they speak on a very high technical level. This presentation is in laymen's terms.
They have fixed it because I just checked and it is correctly spelled
I just checked all of the patents and the only change was that Patent 6 which had received a Notice of Allowance previously just received a "Corrected Notice of Allowability" That could possibly be that it was challenged after the original notice and then once again deemed patent worthy. If that is the case it makes the patent stronger. Whether it was that or something else it is great for Voip-Pal
14/029,615 ALLOCATING CHARGES FOR COMMUNICATIONS SERVICES
Transaction History
Date Transaction Description
04-23-2014 Document Verification
04-23-2014 Corrected Notice of Allowability
CEOs you can read anything into a chart that you want to read. I answered the question. Yes there are often leaks but not always. The current PPS of VPLM has no bearing on the value of the technology. The company has stated they are working towards selling and I take them at their word. If anything I think the current trading pattern over the past few days is bullish and could indicate that VPLM is on the verge of something. The volume has dried up. Someone had been selling a lot of shares for a long time which kept the price down IMO. Now the volume has disappeared and maybe there is some shaking of the tree going on in order to get some shares from somewhere. Just a thought.
Thank you Henerey for your kind words
It was dipping for a couple of days prior to the announcement.