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So there hasn't been significant dilution. Thanks for your news!!! Glad to have more confirmation of what's been said for a long time now, despite some who try manipulating the numbers to "prove" dilution.
There is no evidence that the mineral deposits held by KATX are not economically feasible to mine.
I agree, my beliefs are the same.
The SEC.
I am also of the opinion that this blip is pretty exhausted...time for KATX to break upwards! Nothing new to KATX fundamentally when it started it's decline, either.
Last couple of days was the beginning of a return to the real value of KATX: upwards and onwards!
KATX is starting to pull up again, thank goodness to those with interests in KATX!
The Company has only grown better fundamentally...
An excellent Gold Company
Looking towards the future, a JV deal?
Who Knows... :)
KATX core samples prove they have gold.
Well said, I agree completely. KATX had a great day today, and towards the end of last week. More good days ahead, I hope!
BTW: given the Administrative Warning on this site and all, I think it's important to share that I heard that KATX is being investigated for price manipulation. All the more reason to follow the Terms of Service!
Here are a few helpful links on TSX-V:
Initial filing requirements:
http://www.tmx.com/en/pdf/Policy2-1.pdf
Website with all info:
http://www.tmx.com/en/listings/venture_issuer_resources/finance_manual.html
As a start-up, how do you think KATX is paying the people it's hiring? How do you think they're getting financing? Wait until the PR comes out, and we'll see whether the "dilution" is actually responsible for pushing KATX down...or whether the price and trading activity is best explained by nss.
KATX is a pink sheet company, and does not need to comply with many of the corporate filing rules. If people understood that, they wouldn't try to instill irrational fear over lack of corporate filings.
I read the Nevada link. I'm not saying that the Nevada information is incorrect, either. I would just like to point out that the number of shares reported on that website are the total number of ALL shares. I think it is more misleading to sound the "DILUTION!!!" bell when you're comparing apples to oranges in your math.
I need evidence that the A/S isn't for JV or other good things. I need evidence that KATX is diluting their stock to levels that explain the price dip. The current KATX price can't be explained away by saying "oh KATX diluted the stock" anymore.
The facts are provided on the recent report filed with OTC, showing that there are NOT 900million outstanding shares of KATX. Reality: no dilution.
Other than their recent OTC filing, you mean.
Proper mathematics were not. Proper DD into how many outstanding shares exist was not done either. I provided a link to the recent OTC filing, which was proper. It also proves dilution fears are irrational.
I say usafa is using numbers that are not based in reality.
When presented with information showing there is no dilution, some people still try to pick on KATX. It's a good company, and fears of dilution are unfounded. Period.
Alright, ready to believe otherwise now? No KATX dilution.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/KATX/financials
http://www.otcmarkets.com/otciq/ajax/showFinancialReportById.pdf?id=47970
Lack of money makes it difficult to hire people, no matter how many start-ups you have under your belt. KATX needs cash to hire, and cash to get equipment, and cash to do SEC filings and uplisting. Complaining that they aren't hiring enough, working enough, or uplisting fast enough is probably good for venting, but it shouldn't be taken seriously. KATX is a pink sheet. They will operate just like any other pink sheet--slowly.
I put my thinking cap on. I remember trying to bring professionals into a start up company, and it was remarkably difficult. I didn't have experience hiring and I couldn't promise the job would be around forever. It's difficult to hire when you're a start up like KATX.
Or, perhaps more accurately, it's difficult to hire good people at a fast pace when you're a start-up like KATX.
They are hiring. Unless one has experience hiring geologists to work on a start-up, one shouldn't complain that the process is taking longer than would be preferred.
It is remarkable that somebody could be so skeptical of KATX, to accuse them of openly lying on their own website. If you have a link to prove that, please share.
Seriously, I think this is ridiculous but ok.
http://www.katexploration.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=44&Itemid=147
That's the KAT Exploration website. If you click on "careers," you see what they're hiring. I checked the site a few weeks ago (maybe a month ago), and they had job descriptions and more details than is up there now.
Patience is so much easier to preach than to practice. KATX definitely tests its investors' pateince. If they released information more often, it'd probably help the share price and keep the rumor mill a little quieter. KATX has been hiring, maybe they're getting their game a bit tighter.
Whoa! I saw what you said earlier about how many emails you've sent. Thanks for the KATX effort and updates!
Yes, that does make me wonder. KATX clearly has someone's attention. Maybe it's purchases by MM, covering themselves after selling what they didn't own at higher prices. Maybe not.
I'm wondering what Ken defines as "soon." I sure hope he means by the end of the week. Without updated information, KATX is inviting speculation about its current operations. I hope the news is good.
Also, I find it reassuring that Ken didn't give you the PR details early. An early release to one investor would be *very* sketchy!
Well said, mappo.
I disagree slightly, though. Patience is key...but only for those who are already invested in KATX.
For those who are not already in KATX, patience from the investors would be a nightmare. Patient investors would only make it more difficult for non-investors to drive the price lower using scare tactics and incomplete data.
I rest assured that KATX has minerals in the ground that seem to be, based on public results and reporting, valuable. If nss is manipulating the price, I think that's a good explanation of the random and rapid price decline that no one else seems able to justify.
There is more truth to the positive than the negative with KATX. I'm sure some people lost faith over some period of time, but honestly I think if you can't give a pink sheet like KATX more than 18 months you're just speculating. I don't mean that personally, B402, obviously. If you'd owned stock in KATX, it'd be personal, but since you aren't an investor please don't consider that personal! Just a comment on the short-term investors, who aren't interested in KATX long term but are looking for "other" gains.
If you lost on KATX, it's probably because you were in for short-term gains instead of looking long term. With any pink sheet, you take a big risk. Investors who aren't ready for that risk probably shouldn't invest with KATX, simply because it's a pink sheet and subject to more pronounced stock price manipulation.
http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/201.asp
It is not expensive when you are day trading. Look into any pink sheet stock manipulation case. It is possible, and more common than one might imagine.
Ahh...so you're an investor, hoping the stock will rise? I'd be careful about which KATX posters you characterize as "honest." It's easy to fake emails, just like it's easy to post opinions in language that sounds like fact. Poor KATX seems prone to both forgery and hype...too bad, but part of buying a pink sheet.
Then again, if an investor is looking for an entry point...well, it's likely some investors will down-play a stock, hoping it will fall below the real value of the stock. Like I said, beware people who are negative about KATX but don't own stock in KATX. Pink sheets are frequent subjects of stock manipulation, and KATX is no exception. Again:
http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/201.asp
"The companies on the Pink Sheets are usually penny stocks and are often targets of price manipulation. They should only be purchased with extreme caution"
I think most investors are waiting, and are giving KATX the chance to prove themselves. People who are losing faith this early were probably nss or something, not those in for the long-haul which can involve months (gasp--even years?!) of patience. If an actual investor has given them more than three years of patience and is unsatisfied, well, I can't fault them. But otherwise, the negative hype is overplayed and I think KATX is on the up and up.
Those people were probably not long-term investors, i.e., people who believed in KATX and felt like it was a good company. I can't say what other people thought for sure, but it seems to me like they were looking for short-term stock exploits. KATX hasn't reported anything that should instill fear in people, and certainly hasn't reported anything so terrible to justify the random and rapid drop in price.
Gotcha buddy!
Many people are uninformed about corporate filing rules. It'd save a lot of time and wasted worry if people read and understood them. It's too bad people think DD for KATX, or any other pink sheet, stops with reading ihub posters opinions.
Yes, but people were selling BP at super-low prices out of fear. Nothing real, nothing substantiated...just fear. Just like KATX.
MANY MINERAL FINDS. I can type in all-caps too! Better yet, what I put in all-caps is true!
Pink sheet companies do not always go down. It's untrue to say so. Spending money on salaries is important, KATX needs to bring in good people to make the company profitable. Better geologists, better attorneys = better finds, better chance at catching those who only seek to gain from KATX demise.
Take this from someone who made thousands from buying BP stock after they tanked in the wake of the oil spill. Sometimes the low price isn't a reflection of the company's value at all. All the more reason for people to "bash" KATX into a low price. When a valuable stock is undervalued, the MM can make a bundle.