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The 10% I speak of is the 8k filings that the company reports. That is the only legitamate factual information in which any one can derive vetted information from. A PR is what it is. There is not enough reporting on this company to derive a real analytical perspective of what is to come next. That is why I put little value on the DD that is reported on these boards.
It's a gamblers game down here in the pinks and the odds are against you but the payoff is usually bigger if you win. That is the only reason people play down here. It's like the old people at the penny slots.
WTCT stock dilution is a fact. You can see that in the SEC filings and from calling the TA. Why the dilution has taken place is any ones guess and that is all it is. If it was a scam and anyone had legitimate factual information to prove it then why hasn't the SEC pursued legal action? Because everything WTCT has done is legal in the stock market as we know it. The problem is it may not coincide with the way you think they should conduct buisness but remember you only have 10% of the information.
There is as much information to prove that they have a device as there is that they don't or vice versa. R&D almost always comes at the expense of the early investors and one only hopes that when the company makes it or if they make it that they keep that in mind and try not to screw the early backers.
My opinion is that time is coming soon to see which way the debt will be paid. Hopefully forward.
I like the spice to the board. One thing for sure is that 90% of all the DD on this board and alike is subjectional and opinionated and the other 10% is objective. Which is the 10% WTCT reports. It's hard to draw an educated analytical perspective from that. JMHO
Holy Cow! Did NWMT just bump up to .0002? Is it a sign of things to come? We will see. Go NWMT.
Obviously one side or the other will be proven wrong on the next step of which way WTCT moves. The suspense is killing me. If everyone knew everything imagine how easy investing would be but then again it would be quite boring and not as lucrative.
Tic Toc, Tic Toc. High noon on the board. Go WTCT!!!!
Ok, that was actually a much more in depth answer than I could of imagined. I will take that into consideration when determining your stake in this game and access to DD. well said! Bravo my friend! Bravo!
Some of us have been around through the ups and downs and some around before 2007. Your in it upside down or you have just got in on the bottom. If anyone thinks that a pinky is going to keep everyone informed and there 8k's submitted on time think again. That why they are on the OTC. All you can do is cut your losses or hold out for better things to come.
That's a decision each has to make for them self. I for one am waiting around and I would rather the company spend their time toward restructuring or moving things forward than answering my emails. Just my opinion. If they have time to answer my email then their not busy doing the right things.
If a finance package comes through, is that manipulation. If positive results get published is that manipulation. I know where your going and you say your looking out for the investor. Whether its OTC or NYSE the majority of money is made off other investors. If you trade you take money from others losses. Not always but the majority of the time. I don't pump or suggest others to do as I do. Do your own DD, which in the pinks means little or nothing. Your better to look at historical reactions to news.
I respect what you say and I wish everyone made out but that's just not feasible. My suggestion is if your not willing to lose money don't trade, especially down here.
I guess we will soon find out who is correct. My opinion is regardless WTCT will run again and those who wish to recover some of their losses will. Just be prepared as big gains come quick and retract even faster.
Ultimately we only see a small percentage of what goes on in WTCT so I don't know how anyone can draw a credible opinion positive or negative!
For everyone invested I wish you the best.
Hopefully the PERFECT STORM - Hurricane "WTCT"
GM all! Go WTCT! Maybe the company is like my old profession. "Quiet Professionals". Hopefully that is true. GLTA.
Everyone has a right to post opinions. In regards to acquisitions or CoC it is difficult to know how it will all play out. Hopefully for the good of all. Until NWMT releases the news we can only assume with the current info provided.
Not going to happen anytime soon. Not saying that it won't in the future but will be a while in my opinion.
We all have opinions and they can all be respected. As for third parttransiting in regards to the fuel reformer. ETC completes those tests and the results were published by the company. The white page paper is forward looking as far as the statements but the test data from ETC i feel is accurate.
In respect to acquisitions paying off. WTCT would need to be acquired as a subsidiary of a much larger corporation with the financial ability move the reformer forward. I expect to see a share type acquisition as WTCT has few assets.
I see things like a chess board. It's the second and third term effects that are more important to me than the immediate effect. We can all comment on what we believe but no one hass all the info. So that is what is so good about the boards.
I see potential but that's my opinion.
Nice early start for a change.
Anyone know what the current SS is?
All pinks are scams according to some. The reality of the product is up to the investors and suggest every investor does there own DD. My opinion is that WTCT will rise again. They do have a product, and it has been validated by a third party. What is so hard to believe about that.
One of the reasons I bought into this company as any pink is for the reason of acquisition. I don't believe that WTCT will be the next MSF*. But mergers and acquisitions can pay plenty under the right circumstances. It's a big gamble as is any pink. This and another have potential coming up for making me a few bucks. One I believe I am going to have to write off. Lol. Best of luck to you all for your own investment purposes.
At least not with the help of a much larger organization. WTCT is an incubator company that acquires smaller R&D companies that are struggling or just dont have the management to know how to move a product forward. They look for companies that are on the brink of tomorrows technology. Some will pay off others won't. We will just have to wait and see.
Dilution. Not a hard answer. But there are many reasons for dilution. The majority has cam in the last 6 months. Which I am guessing much came from leadership converting the restricted shares they have received. Which means either they are in a merger or acquisition or going belly up. Your choice of the two. Mine is the first. But that's my opinion.
We can only hope that the company is entering into a merger or acquisition with an organization with a good cash flow that will support the final phase of marketing. WTCT at some time will be acquired. How is the big question.
Look at the O/S. Not much room for dilution. I don't believe they are looking to manipulate the pps. Just trying to maximize with a timed release of information. As a shareholder you should want the company to try and raise the pps as much as possible. JMO
As a shareholder we are privy to information only when it is made available to the public. If we were privy to it prior than that it could be construed as insider information. Often times a release for certain information may be contingent upon an agreement that an organization is entering into. Think of it as a good thing. Timing is everything. When the results come they will likely come with a bunch more releases that will greatly assist the momentum. This could be the biggest moment for this company or possibly the end. JMHO.
Natural Gas may be the future! [url][/url][http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2012/04/shell_may_build_10_billion_gas.html
Apparently Shell Oil has a plant that can transform natural gas into diesel fuel. They may also be looking at putting a 10 billion dollar plant in Louisiana.
So for everyone that said Natural Gas was the future? Well, you were half right.
Just food for thought[url][/url][tag]http://www.epa.gov/diesel/prgemerg.htm
WTCT needs to capitalize on this if they haven't already!
I'm relaxed trust me. AOL sold and leased patents and copyrights to MSFT. Hopefully WTCT pending patents are evolving also. Hopefully great things are in the near future for all here at WTCT. GLTA.
After reviewing the previous PR's it is more apparent to me that there was a lot riding on these results that wasn't made or has not been made available to the shareholders. It appears as some of those may be materializing behind closed doors now. We can only hope they are good.
A merger or acquisition could prove to be very fruitfull for the shareholder. I guess we will have to wait for news.
You are correct on the SS and this leads me to believe a merger or acquisition iis in the works. JMO!
I have a hard time believing the non-restricted shares are that high. Earlier you said the T/A did not have that information.
We will definitely need to due some info gathering.
I understand that it doesn't make a difference if the company continues without financing. I have seen companies increase the A/S and issue a large amount of restricted to its owners prior any mergers or agreements to prevent takeovers.
Hopefully they don't continue the same course and those restricted shares end up entering the market. That would definitely force the company to do an RS.
On the flip side. If the majority of the current float is restricted I highly doubt the company will do an RS any time soon.
That's what I am trying to figure out. What is the unrestricted shares which is what I am concerned about. The other issuance of restricted shares issued in exchange for payment can be paid off if financing is made available with provisions stating.
The unrestricted is what is of a greater concern.
So, the 3.1 billion float is freely traded on the exchange and that number doesn't include any SEC restricted shares issued by the company?
I didnt say they weren't diluting before. Just appears as if it has slowed down the past couple weeks. Doesn't appear as many getting dumped on the bottom. Could be a sign that people expect the pps to raise soon. Call it intuition but this stock is going to make another good run soon.
I forgot its Friday in the states. Still Thursday here. I did receive word on a question about news. WTCT replied "Sorry, I can't say right now". Definitely sounds like negotiations.:)
Guess on a good note is that the company is not dumping any shares into the market. That is definitely a good sIgn. Hope everyone has a good weekend.
It's belief that powers Santa's sleigh. It's good to have faith.
Sounds great but like they said be careful what you say. I hope to hear more from WTCT. If what you say is true. WTCT will rock a bounce.
I don't think they will raise the A/S if they can pay off some of the convertible debt from the past. As for an R/S, it's not always a bad thing. The PPS can only go so high with the current O/S. I guess we will have to see how it plays out. I just hope they got sole food stuff going on behind closed doors.
Dark is not a bad thing! You know as well as I do many comapnies quit pushing PR's when they are in negotiations with other legit organizations. They may or may not. I can only hope that they are. I said from the beginning that Dbar was not a good fit. I do feel that WTCT is struggling financially and that is one of the reasons they looked to Dbar. Dbar doesn't have the money to get this product where it needs to go. They need legit organizations in order to move forward.
I don't nearly have as much invested as others on this board. I have 6.2 million roll-overs from last May when I flipped some when they where doing better. So I have nothing invested in them. I do have an additional 6 million that I have bought down here at the bottom. So, overall I don't have a big share or big money invested. So, I can feel good about an OTC.PK.
I do wish the best to everyone invested. I'm a realist when I need to be and optimistic when the odds are in my favor. I do feel WTCT has not seen its last days and the pps will have another good run. I do however expect to see an R/S.
You paint it in a negative view. I believe for the most part WTCT has good intentions and try to keep investors abreast of current events. Sometimes they work out sometimes they don't. I don't get upset when things don't always pan out. It's easier to be pesomistic than optimistic. Then again I have never taken the easy road.