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Thanks Tex. Will do.
I came into N when Jeff was trying to merge QASP with Centa and only watched QASP. Never bought QASP , thank god. I did OK in N because I played the bounces. Originally I thought it was a great idea. You all know how I felt about their Colo biz. If they had done it, they would be rolling now. They never funded it so it is sitting there. I invested in quite a few other companies doing Colo and Cloud and they are doing well. I shared my thoughts publicly and privately on the costs involved in funding an operation like that. All these players said that Centa/N/MS had all the funding needed. It was all a lie. whatever money they raised they pocketed. Dont know who but Owens says it was Jeff, Jeff says it was James. Who knows? I have heard that some on here are currently in bed with Owens and some are in bed with Jeff/Mike. A pox on all their houses if you ask me.
I am not saying QASP is good. It's a dump too. I'm saying that they are all crooks in these 2 nests of thieves.
From what I saw then and seeing now, both are full of the same bunch of crooks. They started hosing SH, then found another bunch of crooks who tried to hos them. Then that set of crooks tried to hose the 1st set , then.............etc, etc.
The people that actually put $$ into this got hosed. I think they attached themselves to viable projects to boost the numbers and sell shares with no intention of ever actually producing financing to operate said businesses. The crooks found peas in a pod with Owens, Kendrick, DiGenova.
Checked out about a year ago....came back to have a look see. Seems like same BS, same names, same opinions. Did anyone get rich and/or arrested yet?
I decided to jump on the MS/NHSH bandwagon today!
No, I did not buy stock and "paint' the close but I did buy an Almond Joy ( King Size) to do my part to help with Coconut sales.
Lets be fair though....James probably outed them because they decided not to share in the funds created while they dumped said shares...some went to MS , obviously!
I am just dropping in to remind everyone that this was Jeff and his guys/girls tying to screw James ( believing he had $$$) and James trying to screw Jeff and friends ( Believing they were going to share $$$).
They were both wrong!!!!!!
Steve
Personally , i think Centa is worth less than 100k.
Their Eduction package is probably good for 6 figure revenues in 12 months, if marketed properly.
Their Colo/bandwidth play will morph into a Managed services provider and be worth 5 million in 2 years.
That is if and only if, Owens gets out of the way and someone funds the project. I can tell he is running it on a shoestring budget. Poor internet presence , zero marketing, no Logo branding, too few product offerings. Only explanation possible.
Joe would do well to help them get funding through Q or otherwise.
I understand that Jeff still wants it. Tom and him claimed they had it at one time.
IMO
You really believe they have any chance in Moz?
Even then, from what i have seen, a start up company that has great ideas/ products but no $$$ has about a 1% chance of survival. Add in leaders with questionable morals and practices and they tend to make sure of the survivability of themselves first...and the business fails.
I never lost a dime on either . I took advice from Sun Scents and Anvil and played the flip game on Q and N a few times.
Never received any of the 50 million but at .00000000015 or whatever they got , I would have loved to.
I loved the Business plans they had with Centa, although I never had much respect for Owens, I know his team know their business.
I went to Jax several times and he was never around to actually meet me.
I actually believed Jeff was in the right till this last stunt. I knew James was an idiot and a liar and posted that before the records came out. I dont buy the story that Jeff and Daniel worked in the day to day operations end without knowing that James was FOS.
I NEVER believed in MS. Check my posts. I have thought they were dirty the whole time. Admittedly , I think they get to keep the 1.7 million because of the contract language. At first i could not believe DB was that dumb, now I have to believe he got a piece of it for signing it away without any security.
They are using Jeff as well. Unless they are working a backdoor angle , in conjunction with Joe C, they are foolish. This will cost more than 50 K in legal fees to defend. ( I would not discount the Joe C /backdoor angle. These guys cannot surprise me anymore.)
Thing is , from what I understand, is that Dean and Mike are still tight and they speak often. MK and Dean are 2 of a kind, the only difference is the accent.
Just wondering.....Has Branson come in to save the day yet?
saw some one dumping . Could that possibly be some of the 50 million freebees getting all they can before the Fit hits the Shan?
I see some that got freebees are still on here ( or their co-horts)
but have changed their handles! LOL
I do feel sorry for the ones that paid for their stocks.
is everyone still arguing this?
It's pretty obvious MS is still broke. They would not risk a legal battle over 50K if they had the $$.
They are using the Jeff/James argument to "act" like their is a legitimate reason. They are broke!
You all can hate on Joe all you want but he has proven his lawyers are better than Jeffs in court. Now Jeff is going to rep himself , what a joke...we all know the old saying about a man who represents himself.
Kendrick is as much an opportunistic Con man as Jeff or James.
pathetic that you all give Him a break while vilifying others.
Considering this is a chat between 2 individuals , one of them must have copied and pasted then sent it to you or your one hell of a hacker. I dont think its SKype, they use monikers.
I am an IT director and would need full access to one of their computers to do this.
These are either BS or you are a close confidant turning on them.
I answered about the same way before I read this. I would agree completely. They look like they were hand in hand ready to get out of paying a dime. I had not heard about asking for extensions. Do we have any documentation of this or was it just phone calls.
Obviously you have been dealing with Owens. As I have said , I dont think he is the brightest crayon in the box but why would he trust MS on a payment plan?
Read the entire agreement and disagree. MS KNEW all about Jeffs claim. If he had not been satisfied with the original merger and rescinded it as he claimed , he would not have signed those certs over to MS unless he was in collusion with MS to STEAL them back.
Maybe the N/centa never happened as he claimed but this is not a legal way to regain control. It is a fraudulent deal by MS, Jeff as CEO of NHSH, and Mike Kendrick personally.
If the N/Centa deal was bogus then Jeff and James are responsible for fraudulent pumping of that deal and the ALLEGED MS/N Deal #1 as well as MS/Centa?NHSH deal number 2.
This will end in a court battle and from what I have seen of Jeff in court vs Joe....I have to bet on Joe.
My guess is that MS is broke as hell and is using Jeffs issues to forestall paying the money hoping James doesn't have the $$ to fight or they can get funding. Now that Joes involved they will have to re figure....if Joe has the $$.
I am really trying to understand the logic of this....
MS signs a deal buying 443 Million shares from Centa for 50k.
SENDS $800 and a payment plan.
Never pays because they say Centa didn't own them but still installs new BOD and cancels them based on the shares they "bought" but really didn't exist???????/
If you all think that will hold up you are nuts.
I am no fan of James as a person, he has lied about $$$$ since day one but Mike K knew this yet signed and agreed to pay knowing all about Jeff's claim. He cannot play Judge himself and steal those shares back for Jeff. I can't believe J Owens would be dumb enough to trust Mike K on a payment plan. They have never produced 1 dime. Lets not for get the 1.7 Million. I believe they got it legally but they still burned through it with 0$ revenue.
Now Coconut Fields? This is a joke!
Distance education and Bandwidth are real businesses. The only thing that comes out of Mozambique are diamonds and chain letters that will make you a millionaire, just give them your account numbers.
Joe is better at this game than anyone on here. If he says he bought the notes from James , he did not do it on a whim.
He beat Jeff at Q, he will beat him here. You are all taking sides on which crook will screw you less.
Steve-GLTA
Just for my ego...I called this a wile back. I am just channeling my inner "Sputnik"
Been away awhile actually making $$.
Catching up says pretty much what I thought..
More Everyone screwing each other. Why would JO think MS would ever honor this when Jeff was so obviously with them.
Although if JO gets backing from someone and this goes to court They have to return all notes and shares or pay $$. They cant say he didnt legally own them so well keep; them anyway. The N vs Centa has to be fought in court not decided by Jeff and Mike.
Either way its a ClusterF&*(
I am trying to catch up here a bit. Got kind of bored with the BS from both sides.
Agree whole hardheartedly on JO. His business has promise but ALL his business is based on the skill, talent, and Ideas of others.
He just needed to pay for it and obviously could not. Unfortunately for some on here, he has taken $$ from them.
I don't know whats up with the BW group. I thought Tom said he was taking care of that and they were moving with N? My opinion, James cant do it!
Because they have no $$, no revenues, and need a public venue to pump and dump to continue their 6 figure salaries.
I am not saying they don't actually want to try to make a profit on Mines or Coconuts, Bananas, turnips, or whatever but their main reason is $$$$. They don't have it but Shareholders do and enough believe the pump to make $$$.
Question: How do we know MS has actually done anything it said it would. The last merger was either A. Not Completed or B. Done fraudulently. Are we sure that this one is going to play out.
Has MS fulfilled all their obligations to Centa?
Is Jeff still pursuing the "Not Completed" angle?
Which one is going to come out of the wood work?
Will Joe pursue MS/Nhsh for TI and for the 1.7 million?
Dont tell me it cant happen because after the last 8 months , I will not be convinced easily but it seems like others here are willing to forget the snow job that happened and is happening again!
it looks like he's digging for Coconut oil.
LOL
your forgetting about Chris and I thought there was another.
Tom paid for his, he can sell to his hearts content and owes Jeff nothing. If he helps, so be it.
The other guys are Non-AFFILIATEs Officially but not in reality.
Maybe they are not supporting Jeff financially. Whats to stop them from just dumping and cashing out?
Anvil
Come on, now. We all know money has changed hands.
I believe they both had validity to their positions but James had the Certs, that made him in control. If Jeff went to court, he may have had a case BUT it would have cost ALOT of $$$ to maybe win, maybe lose. Joe was still lurking with a lawsuit.
They did the smart thing and settled , without releasing the details of the deal. They can both privately claim victory without revealing too much dirty laundry.
Simple math Jef lawyer cost X , james lawyer cost Y. James had upper hand so proof was on Jeff. Jeff gets MS to pay James difference between x and y with promise of a lot more when they pump and dump MS.. remember , his group has 50 million FT shares. Lots of selling a few days before the deal......? How much was sold in $$$ James holds on to 7.5 million as some security.
Without knowing terms we can only guess. Hell Deans back at Q and Joes hanging with James so all bets are off. Q+N?? and CEnta + Trophy LOL that would be rich!
I am really just making stuff up at this point for fun but who knows with this group.
IMO
WHy would they want him to have any left. Its obvious they wanted to put some kind of encumbrance on them (discounted buy back provision by Mineseeker.)
I would think after such nastiness they would want a clean break. I know they all played nice for the PR but I don't buy the pleasantries.
Now that I decided to stop being lazy and research it a bit.
It looks as though they will only be restricted for about 60 -90 days
"The remaining 7.5 million restricted shares are being retained by James Owens with a discounted buy back provision by Mineseeker."
There has to be a time limit on this provision and probably something like a first right of refusal or matching bid.
They need a clean break if possible.
Steve
I missed that part...I drink a lot. Thanks
Technical question...if James still owns those 7.5 million shares, are they now free trading? Is there a waiting period or something that keeps him from Dumping those shares?
Since he is now less than 10% OWNER , I would think he could but I do not know!
Steve
This Just IN
After yet another meeting of Quasars BOD, Jeff DiGenova is elected CEO and Dean Bradley resigns.....wait.......another meeting in the mirror, Dean uses his Super Duper Majority and Joes now CEO.......wait , wait, wait.........AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Joe C?????????????? What's up? I was just starting to like you!
I have been watching that for a few months myself. It is finally getting play. I always figured it was political.
You are correct, Fender CEO Larry Thomas is a huge Dem.
Yep, Happens every time something is happening behind the scenes. Waiting on Marching orders.
Check your mail in a few minutes.
Steve
I would agree with almost one hundred percent except one point. NHSH has no Business side. LOL
It is obviously a shell that contains nothing but debt.( if Jeff is right)
OR
It is a shell with 2 viable ideas ( Education and Bandwidth) but no money to fund their development. ( if James is correct)
The ethics of both are suspect at best.
IMO-Steve
Nope, You may be close though.
I never received any freebies but I am still willing to negotiate for them. LOL
Anvil
Was the proxy illegal? I have not heard that.
I m busy having thinly veiled and baseless threats of some kind thrown at me while both sides, that have done wrong, get coddled.
If these 3 or 4 posters are illegally receiving shares and $$ from N can the posters that have invested in Centacom holdings privately get in trouble? I was approached and a few others were also. I am sure some took it without revealing it. Do they have an issue too?
I said no but I bet not everyone did!
Steve
I agree Gringo and thats why I said
Sorry about that. After re-reading it I can see how you could get that. My bad.
I was having a stream of consciousness( spell check) thing.
My whole point was that I did not release it and would not have until I found out all the facts. I do think it is knowledge someone should know if they are going to give someone $$$. Some on here were not only buying stock in N but considering , and may have, invested in Centa Holdings privately. Overtures were made to me second hand and I had to be sure. Holdings is Mr Owens. I was a fan of their projects and was considering it.
Is this something else that cannot be made public.
I figured this out a while back but I have no proof.
You can easily find in in public records, on the internet, but I saw nothing that said he was convicted of any felonies.