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Encouraging news, thanks
Rather concerning. If the results are positive, I would think a normal person would be out bragging and publishing. Thanks for the response.
Does anyone know the status of Burzynski's clinical trials with the FDA?
Does anyone have statistical information on Burzynski's patients dealing with survival rate with the various cancers treated.
I am thinking about investing in this stock and would like to find away to deal with just facts and get away from all the "I Believe" and "I feel" that seems to dominate this board.
Cancer is a terrible disease and would like to find a hopeful cure to invest in.
Does the FDA publish progressive findings on clinical trials?
No hurry on investing in BZYR, their drugs are in Phase II and Phase III of clinical trials. I think it will be awhile before they complete those. But, once they do, the stock will shoot up like a rocket once positive results are documented. I looked at the history of their research, it is pretty impressive.
Also may want to keep an eye on the Liquid Battery technology being developed at MIT. Maybe Yatu can incorporate this technology as it evolves. The combination of Wind and Battery technologies can generate a whole paradigm shift towards wind.
These batteries can compensate for the intermittent nature of solar power giving another reason to significantly reduce the use on fossil fuels.
Absolutely, the old adage, when everyone else is running scared buy, when everyone is happy, sell. I believe that is the philosphy of Buffett and I think he picked that up from Vanderbilt.
The stock is cheap and even if I am wrong, It just isn't that big a loss. but then again, if it is a good stock, can make for a very big smile.
WWEI is just a gamble, and might as well have fun with it.
Another high risk stock that can make a smile is BZYR for those that are interested in nascent tech stocks.
Nothing says the purchase has to be an "All or Nothing" bid. Can be purchased accrually.
1/2 mil with a bid to buy 1 mil more
Wind Farm for sale in Australia. Lots of interest from other companies. Any thoughts on how this may help or hurt WWEI or no impact whatsoever. The following is the article describing what is going on.
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SYDNEY--Origin Energy Ltd. (ORG.AU) has received expressions of interest from three consortiums for the estimated 900 million Australian dollar (US$926 million) sale of its Stockyard Hill Wind Farm, people familiar with the matter said Wednesday.
The three groups are General Electric Co. (GE) and Downer EDI Ltd. (DOW.AU), Leighton Holdings Ltd. (LEI.AU) and Suzlon Energy Ltd. (532667.MY, 5SZ1.DE) subsidiary REpower Australia, Xinjiang Goldwind Science & Technology. Co (002202.SZ, 2208.HK) and China Three Gorges New Energy Corporation, the people said.
The sale entails the outright purchase of the project which includes the development and construction of 157 wind turbines in Australia's Victoria state as well as a power purchase agreement, the people said.
In May, The Wall Street Journal first reported that Origin was seeking proposals from parties interested in supplying wind turbines, constructing the wind farm, providing equity for the wind farm's development or buying the project in its entirety.
Each party involved in a consortium has expertise in the renewable space. Downer EDI was recently awarded an A$70 million contract by Meridian Energy Australia to work on its 64-turbine Mt Mercer Wind Farm in Australia's Victoria state while Repower has installed more than 3,600 wind turbines in more than 20 countries, including some in Australia for Origin Energy, AGL Energy Ltd. (AGK.AU) and Infigen Energy (IFN.AU).
Just trying to get a realistic view of what is going on. One of the biggest parts of success in a company is personalities. Do the McNabbs have the tenancity to hang in there? One of the reasons I purchased this stock is that they already had 5 years into it. They are in China, an economic power now. Pump and dumps do not last that long nor do pump and dumps put that kind of effort into creating business.
The world is trying different green technologies giving an opening for the vertical windmill WWEI is trying to introduce over here an opening. Depends on cost and competitiveness with GE. If the US gov't is involved, they may be invoking the "Buy in America Only" clause for wind generator sites.
I haven't seen the technology and cost of implemenation for Yatu's vertical windmills. If anyone has a URL I can peruse, I would appreciate it.
Just need to see if they can hang long enough to get accepted by China and if they can sell a product.
If anyone nows of a potential customer, may be the opening we need.
Specifically, the generalities don't apply to WWEI. There are always exceptions to rules. But my experience is that economic generalities provide a good basis for initial decision making. What I have gathered from this info is that the world wants to move to cleaner energy, but finances and culture hamper it. Like many cultural changing ideas, implementation takes time. To me the article was encouraging because the world is making a move towards green, and it is changing slowly. Most the time, in my experience, deliberate and methodical change is healthy. The McNabb's are in the right place at the right time. They just need to be persistent and hang in there.
I was afraid of that. It is a fairly long article, but I believe very informative of the overall direction and state of the renewable energy markets.
Oct 18, 2012 (Zacks.com via COMTEX) -- According to the Energy Information
Administration (EIA), the U.S. generated about 13% of its electricity from renewable energy sources in 2011. Globally, however, China leads the world in total electricity generation from renewable sources, helped by its mammoth addition in recent times to the alternative path. The dragon is followed closely by the U.S., Brazil and Canada. Historically, the growth outlook of alternative energy companies has been directly related to the state of the economy and inversely related to the prices of petroleum products. While that relationship remains in place, other macroeconomic uncertainties are weighing on the sector's fortunes. The continuing financial strains in the Eurozone, still-impaired bank and household balance sheets, ongoing fiscal contraction and the extended drought are contributing to a less-robust picture going forward. This otherwise
bleak picture is only partly offset by falling energy prices and the steadily improving outlook for the U.S. housing sector. Of the macroeconomic uncertainties, the most significant is the rapidly intensifying domestic drought which would result in a sharp reduction in farm output. Because of crop insurance and sharp price increases for agricultural commodities caused by the drought, farm income is likely to be much less affected than farm output. Hence, multiplier effects stemming from the temporary reduction in farm output will be muted. There will be effects on broad price measures however. Sharply higher prices for crops such as corn and soybeans, and other agricultural commodities, will contribute to smaller increases in retail food prices and slightly higher overall inflation readings over the next few quarters. This will restrain growth in real income. The Eurozone debt crisis remains a major headwind for the global economy. The region's problems are contributing to a flight toward dollar-denominated assets that is resulting in a stronger dollar, lower yields on term Treasury securities, and volatility in major European equity indices.
The yield on the 10-year Treasury Note is hovering around a meager 1.7%. This has resulted in a higher spread between corporate bonds and the Treasury. Overall, the outlook for the U.S. economy appears to be slowly improving, with a host of variables showing improvements in the last few months. The Fed's initiation of another round of bond purchases (QE3) with no announced end date and focused on the improving housing sector has improved market sentiment. That said, the expectation is that the U.S. economy will continue to expand at a moderate pace, which given the problems in Europe and questions about China, is considered a favorable outlook. Another direct fallout of the continuing Eurozone crisis is weakness in global oil demand keeping oil prices down. A tightening global supply picture in view of the ongoing unrest in the resource-rich Middle East and a German court's green light to the Eurozone bailout fund had earlier strengthened oil prices. Offsetting this favorable view has been high U.S. crude stocks and worries about China's growth outlook. With a slowly improving home front, the question now lies largely upon the slowdown in China and the recession in Europe and the effect it will have on the U.S. growth momentum. The apparent 'decoupling' between not-so-bad U.S. prospects and a sub-par outlook abroad has nevertheless a bearing on the alternative energy sector, primarily because of restricted government spending levels. This reduced demand environment due to overburdened government finances has come at a particularly inopportune time for alternative energy operators due to the sector's supply glut. The gradually emerging solar photovoltaic (PV) industry fortunes are currently on tenterhooks. On the one hand, the core European markets of Germany, Italy and Spain historically accounting for the lion's share of solar products are fast nearing maturity. To counter this tepid growth, the companies are increasingly focusing on the Chinese, Indian and U.S. markets. However, as things currently stand, with supply growth far outstripping demand growth, firms without deep pockets may not be able to sustain over the longer run. The pain is made acute by the steady ramping of low-cost China-based players grabbing market share from the U.S. and European contenders who have a higher cost structure. On the other hand, China's new solar power tariff regime clear points to investors to look beyond the near-term earnings horizon for healthier performance. The U.S. Energy Department in its monthly Short-Term Energy Outlook lowered its outlook for 2012 oil prices amid speculation that non-OPEC output will increase, leading to higher inventories. Consequently, we believe that the oil price downside will only drag downward the emerging positive alternative energy narrative. A worldwide industry association for the solar photovoltaic electricity market, the European Photovoltaic Industry Association (EPIA), forecasts that the power generated from solar modules in Europe could be competitive in relation to conventional forms of energy by the
end of the current decade. The major solar markets under survey were Germany, Italy, France, Spain and Britain. A number of traditional utility companies have growing alternative energy operations. But the fortunes of some of these companies, particularly those with significant fossil-fuel exposures, are less attractive than their peers. In the utilities space, we are less optimistic about the prospects of TECO Energy Inc. (TE), Xcel Energy Inc. (XEL), Integrys Energy Group Inc. (TEG), Avista Corporation (AVA) and Cleco Corporation (CNL). Conversely, favorable rate cases and stable sales growth in their respective service areas make companies like Pinnacle West Capital Corporation (PNW), Otter Tail Corporation (OTTR), National Grid plc (NGG), Unitil Corporation (UTL) and SCANA Corporation (SCG) more attractive. A major growth area in this space is solar energy. The U.S. has a lot of catching up to do, despite enormous
potential, to get anywhere close to the global leaders. Solar Energy Industries Association (SEIA) is the U.S. trade association of approximately 1,100 companies in the solar energy industry. Per the SEIA, in fiscal 2011, the U.S. solar energy industry grew 109% year over year to reach 1,868 MW, which represents 7% of all PV globally, up from 887 MW and 5% of global installations in 2010. According to the SEIA, this unprecedented growth was spurred in part by declining installed solar photovoltaic (PV) system prices, which fell 20% in fiscal 2011 on the heels of lower component costs, improved installation efficiency, expanded financing options, and a shift toward larger systems nationwide. Per the SEIA, the U.S. solar bullishness continued in the second
quarter, with new installations of 772 MW of PV, up 125% year over year. As for wind energy, per the American Wind Energy Association (AWEA), the U.S. had a total of 49,802 MW of installed wind power at the end of the second quarter of 2012. The agency is confident that future growth would be vibrant riding on friendly legislations, concern about global warming, green consumer movement and rising demand for traditional sources. According to the EPIA, the cumulative global installed PV capacity stood at almost 67.4 GW at the end of 2011, compared to only 39.7 GW at the end of 2010. The agency reports that almost 21 GW of this growth occurred in Europe. In fiscal 2011, the two biggest markets, Italy and Germany, accounted for nearly 60% of global market growth. The number of markets reaching more than 1 GW of additional capacity during fiscal 2011 rose from 3 to 6. In 2010, the top 3 markets were Germany, Italy and the Czech Republic; in 2011, Italy led, followed by Germany, China, the U.S., France and Japan, each with over 1 GW of new capacity. Here we take a look at the alternative energy space and attempt to identify this nascent industry's strengths and weaknesses. OPPORTUNITIES Environmental advantage: Solar power is the most benign electricity resource. Solar cells generate electricity without air or water emissions, noise, vibration, habitat impact or waste generation. Over time, rapid population growth, depletion of non-renewable conventional sources, and escalating pollution levels will help shape a much more pronounced global focus on renewable projects. The long-term bullishness is shared even by oil goliaths like Royal Dutch Shell plc (RDS.A) and BP plc (BP) who expect that by fiscal 2050, one-third of the global energy needs will come from renewable sources. In this space we are bullish on waste management service provider,
Covanta Holding Corporation (CVA), which has tied the majority of its service contracts under long-term agreements with inflation escalators. Fuel risk advantage: Unlike fossil and nuclear fuels, alternative energy has no risk of fuel price volatility or delivery risk. Although there is variability in the amount and timing of sunlight in the day, season and year, a properly sized and configured system can be designed to ensure high reliability while providing a long-term, fixed-price electricity supply. In this context the one name we are bullish about is Ormat Technologies Inc. (ORA), which engages in the geothermal and recovered energy power business. Another innovative player in this field is OriginOil Inc. (OOIL) which engages in the development of technologies to help
companies produce algae to replace petroleum in various applications. In light of the Fukushima Daichi episode in Japan, the global focus has tilted towards solar in a big way. Germany plans to phase out nuclear power plants by 2022. This move will definitely boost solar fortunes in one of its largest global markets. Location advantage: Unlike other renewable resources such as hydroelectricity and wind power, solar power is generally located at a customer's site due to the universal availability of sunlight. As a result, solar power limits the expense and losses associated with transmission and distribution from large-scale electric plants to the end-users. For most residential consumers seeking an environment-friendly power alternative, solar
power is currently the only viable choice.
Environmental legislation:
Alternative energy companies are increasingly benefiting from new legislation in the U.S. stipulating installation of renewable sources of electricity generation as mandated by Renewal Energy Standards (RES). As of now there are 29 states and the District of Columbia in the U.S. that have RES legislation in place. Another 8 states also have nonbinding goals for adoption of renewable energy sources. At the federal level, Congress has extended the 30% federal investment tax credit (ITC) to both residential and commercial solar installations until December 31,
2016. Also, under the American Reinvestment and Recovery Act (ARRA), the U.S. Treasury Department earlier implemented a program to issue cash grants in lieu of investment tax credit for renewable energy projects. The wind sector has also benefited significantly from the production tax credit (PTC) over the last few years. It was started in 1992 as a part of the Energy Policy Act of 1992. Subsequent to that it has received life extension of half a dozen times. In the first decade of a renewable energy facility's lifespan, the PTC provides a $0.022/ kilowatt-hour investment tax credit benefit. Our favorite in this space
includes Juhl Wind Inc. (JUHL). Subsidy programs: Governments, most notably in China, Japan, Canada, U.K., Australia, India and the Middle East, have increased their financial support for solar projects. In China, governmental authorities recently adopted a national feed-in tariff (FiT) policy for large scale alternative energy projects. China also expanded the Golden Sun Program, an
upfront cost subsidy program, aimed primarily at distributed generation. In addition, according to the 12th 5-year plan for solar energy, the government intends to raise the 2015 goal for total cumulative solar energy capacity to 21 GW and to 50 GW by 2020. Owing to its Chinese focus we are keeping a close watch
on Sino Clean Energy Inc. (SCEI) which operates as a third party commercial producer and distributor of coal-water slurry fuel. In Europe, the European Union's goal of a 20% share of renewable sources in the energy basket by 2020 will keep the flow of new projects going. Specific solar energy stocks under our coverage that stand to benefit from this environment include ReneSola
Ltd. (SOL), bearing a Zacks #2 Rank (short-term Buy rating). In Australia, the solar industry is driven by several regulatory initiatives that support the installation of solar PV modules in both rooftop and free-field applications, including the federal government's nationwide Renewable Energy Target, which has
set a renewable energy goal for Australia of 20% by 2020. In India, the National Solar Mission includes a goal of installing 22 GW of solar power by 2022. In the Middle East and Africa, several countries have announced sizeable solar targets,
although policy mechanisms are not yet firmly established. In the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, a renewable energy plan to install 41 GW of solar power by 2032. In the United Arab Emirates, Abu Dhabi has set a target of sourcing 7% of electricity supply from renewables by 2020. In Morocco, the government has set a 2 GW solar goal by 2020. Other markets such as Algeria, Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar and Tunisia are also actively promoting solar and issuing tenders. Fortunes tied to crude: Alternative energy stock prices generally rise and fall in direct proportion to the price of crude oil. While in times of high oil prices this may present an opportunity, it also increases volatility in the sector. Currently we feel oil price is tied to Europe's stagnation, slowing China growth and Iranian wrinkles. This prevents our outlook on oil to be bullish without a sharp spike in domestic GDP growth or at least improvement hitting Southern European countries and China. In this space we closely watch development stage renewable fuel companies like KiOR Inc. (KIOR) whose fortunes are now hanging over the successful ramp-up of its flagship plant in Columbus. Per EIA, world crude consumption grew by more than 1 million barrels per day (bpd) in 2011 to a record-high level of 88.3 million bpd from 87.3 million bpd in 2010. However, currently weak oil demand has affected oil futures and only concerns over potential supply risks from tension in the Middle East kept losses in check. Also, the International Energy Agency (IEA) last week slashed its demand growth forecast for 2012. Steady declines in energy price futures suggest that these declines are not likely to be reversed in the near term. Per EIA estimates, the North Sea Brent crude is expected to average near $111 a barrel in the current quarter and $103 a barrel next year. We feel that there is a very small pass-through from sharp changes in energy prices to core inflation. Based on this assumption we feel that the latest slew of energy price declines could also help to slow core inflation. Questions about China's growth outlook remain a key source of uncertainty in demand projections for oil. On the supply side, growing hostilities in the Persian Gulf region due to Iran's nuclear program remains a key risk factor for the global oil complex. The Iranian threat has been a major contributor to the volatility in oil prices, a trend that is unlikely to abate any time soon. Per EIA estimates, Iran's crude oil production would fall by 1 million barrel per day (bpd) by the end of 2012 because of a lack of investment, reducing its output to 2.6 million bpd from 3.6 million bpd at the end of fiscal 2011. Based on such assumptions, the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) -- which supplies around 40% of the world's crude -- predicts that global oil demand would increase to 88.8 million barrels a day in 2012. Treading the same path another major energy consultative body, the Paris-based International Energy Agency (IEA), the energy-monitoring body of 28 industrialized countries, said that it expects world oil consumption to grow in 2013 to 90.5 million barrels per day.
WEAKNESSES
Excess capacity: In the near term, the solar industry is facing the problem of excess solar cell and module capacity. Going by the trend of solar companies citing sluggish demand and high inventory levels, affecting margins, virtually the whole industry is in a pause. The earlier rush in vertical integration by individual players for self-reliance in their solar wafer/cell needs, has created a lot of unutilized capacity for the industry. The near-term industry outlook is thus clouded by unnecessary inventory arising from a supply glut and a corresponding underutilization of capacity. This has led to industry-wide sharply falling Average Selling Prices. Solar players like Yingli
Green Energy Holding Company Ltd. (YGE), Real Goods Solar Inc. (RSOL) and Solar Power Inc. (SOPW) are in for a difficult near term. Recent start-ups: A large number of these companies are recent start-ups with limited resources. As such, quite a few depend on their customers' ability to finance solar projects and are exposed to continuing near-term losses due to start-up costs. Companies such as Trina Solar Ltd. (TSL) and Suntech Power Holdings Company Ltd. (STP) come underthis category.
Subsidy roll-back:
Budgetary constraints have caused prime global solar markets like Germany, U.S., Italy, Australia, U.K. and Taiwan to roll back a portion of their grants. Earlier, sales of solar players from the above countries witnessed a sharp rise mainly fueled by the rush to complete projects ahead of subsidy roll-backs. The Alternative energy players may receive another jolt from one of the prime solar markets, Germany's plans in the anvil to cap subsidy payments after generation capacity reaches a certain target. Germany is consistently evaluating changes to the German Renewable Energy Law, or the EEG. Earlier it reduced feed-in tariffs (FiTs) for projects up to 10 MW and an elimination of FiTs for projects over 10 MW. These FiT changes particularly impacted the competitiveness in Germany of large-scale free field PV systems and modules to be installed in such systems. Any further policy changes wrought by the German Environment and Economy Ministers and approved by the German Parliament will negatively affect long-term demand and price levels for PV products in Germany. Going forward, we expect to see a paradigm shift from a market hoisted by growing governmental/institutional support to one of stable growth. This may affect companies which generate a substantial portion of sales from markets like Germany. A struggling U.S. labor market underlies the high levels of high unemployment expected to persist throughout the forecast horizon, moderating core inflation. In September 2012, however, the U.S. unemployment rate for the first time since 2009 fell below the 8% mark to .8%. If the improvement trend buckles going forward, the detrimental effect on federal subsidies may be more pronounced. Also, the 30% grant in lieu of the federal investment tax credit under the ARRA takes into consideration projects only where construction started before the end of 2011 and that are placed in service before 2013. Unless extended, this concession will not be available for solar installations that begin construction on or after January 1, 2012. If the program is not extended, total tax equity availability could be reduced which may adversely affect the ability to arrange financing for utility-scale projects and may adversely affect the attractiveness of the U.S. solar market. Finally, the production tax credit (PTC) for wind powered generation will not be available for turbines that became perational after the end of 2012. If it is not renewed, wind energy installations in the U.S. may take a backseat. As a
result, apart from a handful of biggies like General Electric Company (GE) and Siemens AG (SI), we are apprehensive about the performance of the wind pack. New emerging technologies: The alternative energy industry remains an emerging sector with a consistent focus on the lowest-cost technology and cost-competitiveness using traditional means of electricity generation. This may prove disastrous for existing companies ruling the solar roost should a cheaper alternative emerge. In this area we are keeping a close watch on companies like
Ocean Power Technologies Inc. (OPTT). Ocean Power Technologies, Inc. engages in the development and commercialization of proprietary systems that generate electricity by harnessing the renewable energy of ocean waves.
Conclusion
Broader market stocks have pushed to new multi-year highs in recent days on the back of monetary stimulus from the Fed and other central banks. However, since the pulse of the alternative energy industry is closely tied to the swings in the macro-economy, till the picture becomes rosier we won't find many
stand-alone alternative energy companies racing in the bourses. This is evident from the stock price movement of our actively tracked alternative energy stocks. Year-to-date, the stock price of solar stocks was down 24.2% in aggregate and other alternative energy stocks were down 21.2%. In comparison, over the same time period, the benchmark S&P 500 index was up by 14.5%. On the domestic front, although the economy has shown signs of improvement, proper recovery is yet to be seen. Assuming continuation of the ongoing trend we can safely assume we are not going to see any Fed interest rate hikes while U.S. payroll growth is on the borderline of stagnation. This, along with the aftershocks of Eurozone debt crisis, would keep Europe stagnant. Given such a scenario in the international arena we expect the cloud of uncertainty to persist in the near term. We nonetheless feel alternative energy companies with deep pockets and presence across the value chain will confidently sail through this phase smoothly. In this space we are bullish about First Solar Inc. (FSLR) with its growing utility-scale project business. The company is also in an advantageous position over U.S. Commerce Department taking a strong stance against Chinese solar players through antidumping duties. Another name we are bullish on is French oil major Total S.A.'s (TOT) subsidiary SunPower Corporation (SPWR) owing to its extensive dealer network, systems business, growing leasing footprint and last but not the least deep pocket of its parent. To sum up, the third quarterly numbers are not going to bring sunshine back to the alternative energy sector. Despite the attractive valuation and the moderate growth expected, we feel this earnings season will not be the jumpstart to higher gears for the sector.
Ran across this article on the worldwide condition of renewable energy. I thought it would be of interest to everyone
If you can't get access through the URL provided let me know and I will post it here.
http://us.mg206.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.partner=sbc&.gx=1&.rand=csl6f5o0rcrmt
Agreed, Just have to be patient and wait for the chinese to give WWEI a go ahead.
Bummer, any comments from the McNabbs on presenting a realistic future??? Doesn't matter if it is good or bad, just something to make decisions on.
Poster44ny, I am refering to the share investers, not Larry and Tammy. I would love to meet with them in person and get to know them their capabilities on a personal level. I would probably have a much better feel for their management skills and the likelyhood that they will persevere. That is probably not going to happen. The Hail Mary dealt with stock traders that play long shots with all of their liquid assets. That is right up their with individuals that place their paychecks on lotto. Penny stocks in my mind should only be funded to the extent it doesn't matter to much if the money is lost. We always hope for the best and the instant win, but we shouldn't count on it. As mentioned before, I believe Larry and Tammy are in the right place at the right time, just need to see if they can hang in their long enough for the business to get out of the gate.
Fred, thanks for that post. General market movement such as that is always helpful.
Playing with penny stocks is akin to playing Russian Roulette. You hope, with due diligence that you pick a winner, an upcoming contender for the future market. Competition, lack of cash flow, uncooperative governments can dash the hopes in an instant. But the reverse is also true, it can also be a winner and the payback far exceeds the risk. I just hope that anyone invested here did not go for the Hail Mary to fund their retirement and put their nest egg here. This is a long shot, and as it turns out, a long term play. I will probably buy substantially more of this stock and hope the political and corporate winds finally blow our way. But this is money I can lose without worrying, kind of like going to Las Vegas for the day. Hope to have a fun ride, hope to win, but knowing I will probably not have any winnings. My attitude, I'm in, might as well be positive. Although many of the negative statements have validity; for me, it is just not worth going down that road if I am going to hang in there. Norman Vincent Peale, the power of positive thinking may have some need here.
I meant buying a lot more. I like Larry effort even if it isn't paying out. If he keeps at it, I have no doubt he will eventually make this a profitable company.
I knew I should have bought.
Actually, if you believe this company will survive and flurish, probably a good time to buy.
Thanks for the info, definitely a positive indicator.
I wouldn't mind adding to the volume with a little more confidence that WWEI is going to survive their present situation. As I always stated, I like WWEI's mission statement Plus, they are entering the China market early enough to become a substantial part of the power infrastructure.
Any words from Tammy and Larry about being able to move forward.
You can always ask the person on the other board where he got his info. Best to know how, who and why mischeivous individuals put false information out. Just gives more information on what is true and what isn't.
Well we could always look at positives with other investments we are doing. Like REIT's, great long term stocks that are putting out div's at around 16-22%. GE, another wonderful long term play.
As I stated before, I always looked at WWEI as high risk long term stock. As long as the McNabe's are playing for keeps, I am happy. Many companies take 10-20 years to get the profits rolling. If starting profitable business's were easy, everyone would do it.
Larry, Tammmy, -> Thanks for hanging in there.
Your way of saying that nepotism is the standard business structure in China.
Yatu, for the mfg, but WWEI is wanting sell back to Canada and US. So really, down the road, this type of politics and protectionism will effect both corporations.
I can always dream. WWEI does have a great concept. Hopefully they will get over the start up hurdles.
Just interesting politics on China/US Wind Power Trade. Would like to know how this may affect WWEI, if anyone knows.
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-- Chinese subsidiaries under CS Wind and Titan among the hardest hit
-- Vestas and Siemens could most impacted as CS Wind's top customers
-- U.S. Commerce Department to slap tariffs between 13.74% and 26%
(Adds foreign ministry comment, trade dispute background, analyst comments)
By Wayne Ma
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
BEIJING (Dow Jones)--A Chinese industry group said Thursday that a U.S. decision to impose tariffs on Chinese wind-turbine towers will have a "negative effect" on related U.S. industries and is an attempt to conceal that U.S. tower manufacturers aren't competitive.
The statement, issued by the China Chamber of Commerce for Import and Export of Machinery and Electronic Products, is the latest salvo in an escalating battle between China and the U.S. over renewables trade. Both sides have been engaged in a tit-for-tat over the past three weeks as they accuse each other of providing illegal subsidies to prop up their sectors.
"Chinese wind-turbine towers are favored by large-scale U.S. wind-power operators and have helped popularize wind power in the U.S.," the CCCME said.
Although China's commerce ministry declined to comment, its foreign ministry said the dispute was best solved through negotiation and consultation. "Resorting to protectionist measures will not help solve these frictions; it will harm business ties between the two," Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Liu Weimin said Thursday at a regular news briefing.
The U.S. Commerce Department said Wednesday that it would slap tariffs between 13.74% and 26% on Chinese wind-tower suppliers after an investigation revealed that they received illegal subsidies.
The ruling comes almost one week after China's commerce ministry said U.S. support for six clean-energy projects violated World Trade Organization rules and acted as barriers to trade. That was preceded even earlier by a U.S. decision to slap 31% tariffs on some Chinese solar-panel makers.
Among those hardest hit by the latest tariffs are a group of Chinese subsidiaries under CS Wind and Titan, which sell towers in the U.S. mainly to European and U.S. wind-turbine manufacturers. Vestas Wind Systems A/S (VWDRY), Siemens AG (SI) and General Electric Co. (GE) are some of their customers, according to Denmark-based Make Consulting.
CS Wind alone represented almost 65% of all Asian tower imports to the U.S. market over the past two years, Make Consulting said in a Jan. 19 note to subscribers.
The impact will likely be minimal on Chinese wind-turbine manufacturers such as Sinovel Wind Group (601558.SH) and Xinjiang Goldwind Science & Technology Co. (002202.SZ), which have relatively few projects in the U.S. compared with their foreign counterparts.
"Vestas and Siemens could be the most impacted as CS Wind's largest U.S. customers," Make Consulting said. "This will erode Vestas's cost-cutting strategies during a trying time of weak earnings and significant layoffs."
GE Energy could see an impact as it buys towers from Titan and Chinese tower manufacturer Chengxi Shipyard, it added.
-By Wayne Ma and Sarah Chen, Dow Jones Newswires; +86 10 8400 7714; wayne.ma@dowjones.com
--Keith Johnson in Washington and Sara Chen in Beijing contributed to this story.
(END) Dow Jones Newswires
May 31, 2012 06:36 ET (10:36 GMT)
Copyright (c) 2012 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.- - 06 36 AM EDT 05-31-12
Just a news snipet from US Market Place.
"China will fast track approvals for infrastructure investment to combat a slowdown in the economy, a state-backed newspaper reported, showing how Premier Wen Jiabao's call for policies to support growth is being put into action."
One can always hope Yatu projects will be a part of that.
Agreed, as long as both sides are working towards the same goal together and money doesn't run out, it is only a matter of time before success arrives.
Thanks for letting me know about Shannon. He is the President of Windcor Power Systems and on the board of Welwind.
http://www.windcor.com/
Shannon de Delley Profile
http://www.zoominfo.com/people/de%20Delley_Shannon_476843525.aspx
Makes me wonder if Windcor is subsidizing Welwind at a legal distance to protect itself from China and other issues that I don't know about. If so, gives me some more confidence that Welwind can go thru the business building hardship and eventually be self reliant.
Unfortunately, Windcor is a privately held company.
If you think about it, all of us have to submit to some level with our customers, bosses, even friends to accomplish an end goal. Catering to a customer to make a large income is probably worth it to a point. Doesn't mean it is easy, but making a customer happy, swallowing a little pride, without screwing yourself usually has a good outcome.
Personally, I think Welwind has a great business plan and if I had a little more knowledge of what is going on would probably throw more money at WWEI, even with it still being a long shot. But the silence does bother me, so I am hesitant with the possibility of throwing good money after bad.
Good information and thanks. Sorry to see Welwind not mentioned in the article.
Hopefully this is good news for Welwind.
It would be time consuming, but tammy could contact all companies that Welwind has contracts/agreements with and request a duplicate. If lawyers were involved, they would have copies too. Worse case scenerio, is just a temporary setback to gather lost data.
Need to get through some of the present economic uncertainity. I am sure WWEI is not the only company dealing with funding issues.
thanks for the going dark info. Good to know
Thanks for posting how things work in the world. It gets frustrating to see individuals wanting instant gratification (returns) for endeavors that can take years to reach fruition.
It is not the effort, it is the cost. $18,000 to file and SEC disclosure
Thanks, nice to know the chinese are at least thinking about making movement towards development
The price is below .005. Is bottom fishing really necessary. Just jump in and buy a few 100,000 shares. Anyway, I am in a hold pattern and still believe Larry has a great concept with Welwind. If he maintains the desire and fortitude for sucess, this will happen, just not as fast as Larry wants or what we want. For those that perpetually bitch, this is a penny stock and by definition is extremely high risk. Risk high, means high probability you will lose everything, but also means high reward if Larry succeeds. Unless you have something constructive or a fact to present, nothing is achieved, except agitating everyone when throwing out negative statements. Personal supposition, disappointment, unprofessional venting really should be avoided here. Maybe get on line and understand the business better. As a stock holder, you do own a part of the company, your constructive input may be appreciated.