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agreed, i think what was said today needed to be said.
at least we all agree that chris messalas and joseph laroach are scum. i feel for the saps investing in leaddog or roadrunner, thats probably another sad story in itself. these two live the life while others are waiting for somthing thats just not going to happen. money returned to them.
my same sentiments, unfortionently some put some very large sums of money in this. the thought of cm and that pos lawyer that partners with him got that cash really irks me. i just hope some how some way justice gets served up, no ill wills towards their families just the two of them. the roaches kids probably think their daddy is brilliant. he probably preaches honesty and integrity to them..now that's a pathetic thought.
wake, when that fake pr came out, cm didn't sell a single share. my suspicions are one or two peeps for him aquired shares in the float and sold for the 4 days. not alot of money but to cm a buck is a buck. as i've said before i don't think cm paid one cent for cggp it was given to him by lau. i think the agreement is to never take it up a tier and become current. i listed a all of lau's companies that should be a major red flag to anyone that bothered to take a look at them.
also, the jadebridge site at the time when it said coming soon a joint venture. the roach was questioned aboout it and it was promply taken down but he never said that jade bridge was out of their control. i thought they still owned it and some underling let out to much info. did they bother to say anything about that. not at all, the pink sheet esq. knew not to make any material statements. that would of actually been a comment from the so called illigitment managment team.
bottom line, CROOKS!
well put dd22, i've seen fully reporting shells go for as little as 35k.
cm will not rm this or shop it out, the dirty background of his dealings with robert c. lau pretty much speak for themselves. way to much dirty laundry for cm to come clean. why do you think he hides behind the roach so called esq. maintaining the pink status pretty much shields them from any scrutiny by the sec. the fake chinese pr on any other stock exchange would of been investigated and exposed and someone would be in cuffs. the roach knows how to play the pink game better than anyone. all you'll be seeing is the pps go down and little itty bitty trades going thru. slow dilution hardly perceptible, to these guys there getting pennys for dirt. any pr that makes any material promises would expose them so that's not goingh to happen, every thing will just be as it is. by the way, you can purchase the jadebridge site for 11.95 a year.
my advice to anyone don't touch this, find another so called lotto play. if you buy your just feeding the 2 scumbags don't feed the rats.
we all have opinions among other things.
doubledown22 you speak the truth, there isn't one thing you said i could argue. i had high hopes with shelby but with kelly t. hickel, crhis messalas and the roach i know that shelby knew he was in for a royal screwing thru those pukes. looks like since kelly t. hickel joined up with sheffield that caused shelby to pull the plug on them. my gut tells me these three are crooks, they would fleece your grandmothers social security checks given the opportunity. until somthing legit comes out and i think i have a better chance of self levitation.
since you brought it up, when the chinese pr came out chris mesallas took his jolly good time on the denial alot longer than any honest man would of. the phony ny papers there again they just jumped all of over that and the web site for jadebridge a call was made to the roach and he took it down, if he hadn't been called i can just imaging how long it would of stayed up.
so what are you talking about?
my advice to you is a little different.
appreciate your optimism, your right on when it comes to no pump, when chris dumped every last share before this was reversed there was no pump either. the 2 pos that hold this will probably sell it off piece meal for years to come. all will be small but there will always be shares to buy because those crooks will make sure of that. they've already got their shirt tails greased up, good luck on that ride.
i'll hang on to my shares until they reverse it again, and again. it obviosly won't be anything soon but chris messalas and larocco have turned out to be two very dubious gease balls. my opinions is based on all the weird things that have taken place and i'm sure there will be more to come.
.0024 x .0062 my advice to anyone looking at this would be not to buy or sell. the leaddog crooks are probably selling if someone will buy. when you read the pink sheet manifesto that the lroacha wrote he pretty much says he's going to stick it to the saps that buy pink sheet stocks. it's a shame that chris messalas is looking more and more like a madoff than a ceo that would care that individuals believed he would actually do somthing for us and theres alot more individuals that don't read or post here.
i would imagine we have well over 350 people holding some amount of shares normally that would be posted on pinksheets web site. this stock is starting to stink up the pink sheet world, looks like we've become part of somthing that adds up to lies and deception. welcome to the new year i hope everyone reading this finds and alternative to this to make some money. rt
jadebridge site looks like leaddog or roadrunner has pretty much abandoned it and if you go to the sheffield site shelby is no longer mentioned.
http://www.jadebridgecapital.com/
http://www.sheffieldinternational.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23:kelly-t-hickel&catid=3:advisors&Itemid=13
i saw that, cm was probably selling off as it went up, could of had a good run. ueec, scrk and trab had some activity,
i was reading about facebook today, i doubt he'll go public. the man believes in freedom and he's got the cash to back it. he will still have to file due to the 500 plus investors in face book. that still leaves alot of companies that want to go public, in ctno's case it would require a reverse merger or just and acknoledgement of some sort.
geez apprerciate your enthusiasm, BUTTTTTT; the reality for today in my opinion is we have a shyster running this company that would be joseph larocco esq, the ceo got neutered that would be chris messalas. one of two things need to happen, larocco gets hauled of in hand cuffs or we see his face on a milk carton. bang this takes off.
go to florida sos and do your own lau look and click on every company, all crap. looks to me like anyone that worked for him should be in jail!
robert lau is very good at what he does, he keeps his pockets full and the investors hoping and hoping. he pretty much milked the cow dry before handing it over to chris messalas, i doubt that chris paid a dime. in chinese lau probably means louse, if i didn't spell that correctly use your own intrepetation. now we have a very questionable attorney running the show at the wall street address. i guess thats a way for chris to keep his hands clean. no phone calls, no emails, no updates no traceability. maybe a disbarment is in laroaches future, hopefully sec violations. usually when people hide they are usually hiding something, everyone on this board has their fingers crossed that the hiding is some pie in the sky. if you go back and read cggp's postings there just like a repeat of today. i still hold every share i've purchased, seeing justice come to chris messalas and his lacky laroach is worth holding this stock. i don't expect any positive response from anyone here, just take it in stride and settle in for the ride.
before we became ctno we were the clayton dunning group. robert lau was the ceo and as far as i'm concerned the mentor to chris messalas. take a gander at robert lau.
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/corofflis.exe
FONDSFINANS INC. F08000005215
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LAU, ROBERT C. BRICKELL CAPITAL MANAGEMENT, INC. K24454
LAU, ROBERT C. BAYSHORE ADVISORS INC. K24455
LAU, ROBERT C. CENTURION CAPITAL MARKETING, INC. K66462
LAU, ROBERT C CLAYTON, DUNNING GLOBAL PARTNERS LLC L05000105267
LAU, ROBERT C RENEWABLE ENERGY CAPITAL LLC L09000011286
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LAU, ROBERT C. WHITEHALL ASIA COMPANY L89886
LAU, ROBERT C. TRANSATLANTIC HOLDINGS, INC. L89898
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LAU, ROBERT C BLITHEFIELD & COMPANY LLC L97000000501
LAU, ROBERT C CLAYTON, DUNNING SECURITIES LLC L97000000709
LAU, ROBERT C. RCL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION M56921
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LAU, ROBERT C MCO ADMINISTRATORS INC. P97000026686
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LAU, ROBERT C MCO PARTNERS U.S.A. INC. P97000026697
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LAU, ROBERT C CLAYTON, DUNNING GLOBAL PARTNERS LLC L05000105267
LAU, ROBERT C RENEWABLE ENERGY CAPITAL LLC L09000011286
LAU, ROBERT C RENEWABLE ENERGIES LLC L09000079138
LAU, ROBERT C CLEANTOWN TECHNOLOGIES LLC L10000020496
LAU, ROBERT C RESOURCES RECOVERY LLC L10000100953
LAU, ROBERT C LOMBARD INTERNATIONAL ADVISORS INC. L53448
LAU, ROBERT C. WHITEHALL ASIA COMPANY L89886
LAU, ROBERT C. TRANSATLANTIC HOLDINGS, INC. L89898
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LAU, ROBERT C BLITHEFIELD & COMPANY LLC L97000000501
LAU, ROBERT C CLAYTON, DUNNING SECURITIES LLC L97000000709
LAU, ROBERT C. RCL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION M56921
LAU, ROBERT C I4 GLOBAL PARTNERS INC. P02000031336
LAU, ROBERT C CLAYTON, DUNNING GROUP INC. P0300
PARTNERS U.S.A. INC. P97000026697
LAU, ROBERT C MCO INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INC. P97000026703
LAU, ROBERT C NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF PROFESSIONAL FINANCIAL ADVISORS, INC. P98000086247
LAU, ROBERT C CLAYTON, DUNNING CAPITAL PARTNERS, INC. P98000090805
LAU, ROBERT C CLAYTON, DUNNING RESEARCH, INC. P99000014484
LAU, ROBERT C. BRICKELL STAFF MANAGEMENT INC. S56069
LAU, ROBERT C. BRICKELL CAPITAL SERVICES INC. V05130
LAU, ROBERT C. BRICKELL CAPITAL CORPORATION V08810
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these 2 wks keep coming and going, any ray of sunlight on our horizon? merry xman and i hope you have a great new year. rt
i wonder if this is us? i just hope if it is we don't get some rediculous low value for our shares. 14 for 1 or 5 for 1 would be a kick in the nuts. what ever it is i'm sure we'll be just flabbergasted!
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Strategic-American-Oil-pz-2329199069.html?x=0&.v=1
Strategic American Oil is also in late-stage negotiations now on a very attractive acquisition opportunity that could bring significant value to the Company, both through assets and cash-flow.
i feel for the guy who sold for .063 ugh, i'm waiting for the pay out. if you'll notice larocco chose his words very smoothly. i almost got the impression he was saying keep the phony pr's, doc's, emails and any other thing you guys can come up with because he's not going to pursue it. that's a new york layer for you, probably stays in new jersey when he starts to feel human.
we lost a very strong suporter of alry (OLWALRUS) last week, i figure next of kin clearing out his shares! larry if your reading this i can't begin to tell you how much stress this put on him and trying to convince his family that all that cash would pay off. a simple friggin pr would of been nice. well you won't be hearing from D.J. any more, may your xmas be as good as his.
billiam 2, your itrem # 4 is right on point. larocco was called when the jadebridge posted their future colaboration with jadebridge thru leaddog a subsiderary of the carlton companies inc. larocco's comment was that shouldn't be posted. within 15 minutes it was removed. that was a premature blurp and that also tells me that larocco controls the web site from his desk. if they were to denie the connection it would be a complete lie and they would be breaking many sec laws.
leaddog is a subsiderary of the carlton companies inc., other wise it would of been disclaimed in the same time line as the jadebridge posting.
ctno is worth a fortune by virtue of leaddog, my guess these are very greedy men that will not let any info out unless they can capitalize on it.
i personally doubt this will ever be a reversemerger, two reasons: 1., it's already being used as a parent company. ctno is houseing leaddog it wouldn't make any sense to split it up.
2., it was already stated at the jadebridge site that leaddog a subsiderary of the carlton companies inc. was going to do a joint venture with jadebridge. the ctno part was taken down when a poster questioned larocco about it's validity. jadebridge, ctno and leaddog were real on that site it was just premature. it seems larocco wants to be a hard azz no nonsense attorney, napoleon sendronm, i would imagine he was one of the lowest on the bar exam that day. basically cm has put his tail between his legs and stepped back and let larocco take over. if you doubt this feel free to call leaddogs number and see who's wearing the high heel shoes and answering the phone.
any new developments, haven't seen any changes of officers on nevada site or pink sheets. we still seem to be in the gray shade. any info would be appreciated.
still here and never sold a share, been remodeling living room and dining room taking most of my time up. sure wish this would get into the dollar range then i could hire some help. this is the first time since i've owned this stock that i haven't checked it for a few days. lot of interesting discoveries, i think i'd keep reposting ny sos docs along with leaddog holdings. if your waiting for chris messalas to get the ok from joseph larocca i don't think it's going to happen. larocca seems to be on the ruthless side of the lawering business. with what we have discovered i don't think we need his nod. smart penny players will get wind of this since the actual link was uncovered and posted.
keep in mind these guys are hedge fund promoters, our interest and ownership of this stock is a minor side thought. that still doesn't mean we don't exist, were here and we own a hedge fund/s. as someone stated we should be in the 1 dollar range based on leaddogs sec filings and that gives me a lot of comfort. we haven't seen a run on this yet, it's coming with what has been posted lately. if i wasn't already in i'd sure be cracking some piggy banks, how could anyone pass on this after seeing leaddog being the subsiderary of the carlton companies inc.?
shelby finaly updates their web site!
http://www.shelbysupercars.com/
larocco has a esquire license in conn. his angel investment corp reflects that, any chance the connection could be there?
amaster, did they meet, was expecting a change of officers in nevada and also on pink sheets. any idea why this is still not updated and is there a problem holding things up. i don't want to speculate on the board what may be the problem. some info would be appreciated. thanks
thanks amasters, as long as it has nothing to do with bolivia and spenkoch' old boss william petty from fmnj (franklin mining)
http://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=lt7eySCMZ08bAGJOu3zMEA%253d%253d&nt7=0
if you look back at their promises and bs pr's you'll agree, fmnj im my opinion is scam. the authorized shares are 200 billion, ther os is according to pink sheets 61 billion as of june 2010. no telling what the actual amount is now. spendkoch needs to step up and toe the line. in his positon at fmnj he would of been involved with all the going on's.
tradestar with tom's shares returned to the treasury puts the os somewhere around 11 mill os, 7 million in the float. thats a very clean company to start with not to mention we have producing wells that still are generating revenues. if you get a chance to speak with anyone ask if those share are going bact to the treasury, if so that would be a very encouraging sign of good faith on our new mangment team.
amasters, are we still looking at the end of october?
with what is KNOWN this stock is way over do for a nice bounce, should establish a new resistance. we've moved up to 015 to .02 and have held fairly decent. i think the next bounce will be in the nickel range or possibly higher. with all the constant fishing going on were going to hit on something special. that may force cm hand, it would be great day. as far as that goes we may watch this climb without cm's help. what ever takes place it will be welcomed, 3 years in the shadows of all these maga moves by cm is surely to get some interest. it comes down to who turns the lights on first.
the 24th floor must be thousans of square feet, looking at the building that level has alot of windows.
i don't believe, i know our ceo and larocco don't do non profit. i doubt they could say that word without shuddering.
The Tibetan Master's books are published by Lucis Trust, 120 Wall Street (24th Floor), New York, NY 10005. Following is part of a statement in which the Tibetan describes his mission and purpose..
http://www.sunbiz.org/
it lists "the carlton companies inc." florida, diferent company.
LEADDOG CAPITAL EQUITIES, LLC
LEADDOG CAPITAL MARKETS, LLC
LEADDOG CAPITAL PARTNERS, INC.
LEADDOG CAPITAL, L.P.
LEADDOG VENTURES LLC
i notice only one of leaddogs entities are not either llc or inc. maybe the limited partnership is being umbrellaed by ctno (inc.)
that's hilarious, and mind boggling at the same time.
i'm not sure, came to my attention early september 2010. being incorporated in the state of nevada but being a non resident may require a current address. uspo forwards mail for a given amount of time and then it's returned. the address change may just be for correspondence from the state of nevada.
if there using ctno as the lease holder at 120 wall street or tax shelter of some sort i would think it would filed in new york. after all he went to the trouble of changing the address of ctno in the state of nevada. why would that of been a must do?
thats about a 7 hour poke for me, if i had a fax i'd be happy to get it the list. i'm strickly a cell phone person, no land lines. someone must be in the area that can accomplish this. email chris or joseph larocco i'm sure they'd jump at the opportunity to help us out.