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Ok, thank you, so you would not buy the patents...
Next vote please.....
yea or nay..
Dedicated to Hudnell, Allbright and the great emu of eGipped..
A very interesting juxtaposition would be to read all that was said about Hudnell superiority and results when he 1st came on board and the rocket docket judge when he 1st came into play after move from Cali to Texas and read ALL of the commentary and then draw up a comparison chart depicting what had been said and promised and expected......compared to the actual results for shareholders. Exactly the same results can be found for ea and every individual endeavor 1st brought up by Vplm and where those efforts led to today.
Again I ask the question.....the big question in my opinion that says it all...
WOULD ANY OF YOU, ASSUMING YOU HAD THE MONEY, BUY THE PATENT SUITE?
HELLOOOO? I can't hear you.....??
Da plane! Da plane! Welcome to fantasy island. 8 bil authorized and nonstop multiple insiders selling.........by default (for critical thinkers)......shows it to be a share printing share selling insider ATM........and.......that.....does not equate to patents that are priceless and fraught with power. The 2 things are pretty much mutually exclusive......except here on Fantasy Island. As well, if it isn't obvious that the greatly celebrated "rocket docket" (as promulgated here by the know it alls) has PROVEN itself to be A ROCK ON THE END OF THE DOCK ("sittin' on the dock of the bay, wastin' time). 27 years of nothing and peeps still believe, lol.
Guessing translation is you disagree with all... Oh well, at least you listened. May you be right just enough for me to score my 50 cents...
Glty
Yikes, kinda that kinda hit me like you're all over the road. Too many things to focus on... Let me at least try. Incidentally, not sure specifically to your reference? but I use tons of humor in my commentary in general.
I would be surprised if you truly understood why exactly I say that patent validity means basically nothing, as I've explained it a zillion x but aside from a couple peeps, no one has ever agreed or in most cases, even so much as acknowledged even though I have provided a plethora of common sense, logic and facts to support it. So I hope you do indeed get it. In case not, the basic idea is that it's the fully recognized top experts, ie, the USPTO examiners who validate or not, the patent applications. Long ago, when these issues came to fore, I did research the criteria that the USPTO has for issuing a patent. I posted those criteria here a few times. Pretty basic criteria, only around 4 things. None of them give any semblance of assurance as to value, need, efficacy, current compatability, etc. As mentioned, MANY or I dare say MOST patents never garner a dime even if they are totally good in every way shape and form and are provable. So that said, after a positive IPR ruling, NOTHING is gained nothing is lost. It's a wash. You successfully defended and so the patents hold the exact same validity as they had the moment they were born in the USPTO offices. Nothing! It's not a negative but it's also not a positive either EXCEPT in the sense that it can be viewed as a win because the alternative WOULD BE an actual LOSS! So yes, far better than a loss but the fact remains that you have nothing positive for any judge to consider outside of the fact that the patent challenges were unsuccessful and the patents have the exact same level of validity as the moment they were born.
So after years of everyone disagreeing with it or ignoring the point (aside from 1 poster who stated that it gained estoppel, which I've yet to see any benefit from to this day, but it may be a plus at some point) I decided that instead of conceding the IPR issue, I would simply research the actualities of the issue, legally speaking. It wasn't easy to find any legal opinions or commentary about it but I did find 1 or 2. I think I may have it saved in my notes, I'll look for it, but basically it said that up to that point in time, (a couple yrs ago I think), the courts were UNDECIDED on that very issue and or that no judge had yet to use the outcomes of patent case IPR in determining a ruling. I was not surprised at to read that because I use critical thinking and common sense.
Therefore the "icing on the cake" comment seems irrelevant to me. I think ppl, maybe even judges, can "attribute" more to positive ipr outcomes that they deserve, but if there is no actual legal delineated gain above and beyond the original validity that comes by default with a patent issuance, then it's kind of a paper tiger point. As far as it ever becoming "the vehicle that spurs a reversal", I highly doubt it.. Then you kind of sequed into the judges favoring silicon valley companies. You made that a sweeping statement but I believe that there have been many judges involved with decisions on Vplm and I find it hard to believe they all are fully biased, or corrupted in favor of silicon valley. In fact, let's take the most famously celebrated judge bandied about here on this board, in that very regard, judge koh. I just want to note 2 basic points about her. I'm no fan of hers but I did try to defend her against what I thought were very short sighted, biased, unfair, and disrespectful comments made here on a wholesale level. Almost everyone was calling her an idiot with no clue. I pointed out that she had 100% support from congress in her orig appointment and that she had also the support of president's, governors, etc..... AND......was a Harvard Law School graduate and had previously worked on patent cases. All that was enough for me to see that saying she was dumb and Han no clue was not fair to say the least. I'm a proponent of fair and balanced everything. Don't get me wrong, maybe she was wrong or biased unfairly for silicon valley but keep in mind that one of her most famous cases she publicly and famously admonished the Apple lawyer, asking if he was smoking crack or something along those lines, when she disagreed with the lawyer about the time it would take to do something. Plus, many of her cases, correct me if I'm wrong involve both sides being silicon valley companies. I also have recently seen articles that said she indeed ruled properly on Vplm. I simply thought she was a very highly accomplished woman who deserved more respect.
In any event, regards all the talk about draining Vplms resources has proven to be 100% not the case from the git, yes/no? They seem to have had no problem whatsoever in raising all the funds and assistance it has ever needed and with a current 2 mil banked to boot. That argument has been used so many times but falsely as it turns out.
Emil letters? Patent cases will be taken out of the courts... That's doubtful. It's how our system of jurisprudence works, but even if that we're to occur, I assume you mean that the decision making would then fall upon the USPTO and PTAB. The PTAB was founf to be corrupt from the top down and theyhsooen to be an arm of the USPTO. I have long considered them to be the 1-2 punch of the whole complaint about how many patents are denied or reversed etc.
Regardless of all above, 13 years of study of this play leaves me long concluding it's an insider share printing share selling insider self enrichment carnival put together in a very sophisticated way.
Sorry, but I didn't get your "not favoring some pennystock" comment in quotes. Not sure what you mean by that....but CLEARLY you stated that is was CLEAR that the hand of God is upon Vplm....and I find that ridiculous. You follow by saying the fight is on principal. That seems crazy to me as well. The "fight" (at least what you THINK is a fight.....but is actually a front) would be for monetary gain, not principal. Battles are historically for power and place.....better put, MONEY!, or sometimes for freedom, not for some principal. Do you disagree? Aside from all that, how can you say it is clear that God has a hand on Vplm? I'm guessing your answer will say because it's the PRINCIPLE involved but thats crazy. It's money not principle and even if it was principle which it isn't, it would be human principles not God principles.
Maybe one of the numbers ppl here can say roughly how much money the insiders have made on the selling and then we can see how that stacks up against lawyers fees.......except......dont you think a fair amount of lawyer fees have been paid with shares?? I hope you will give your opinions on these questions. No harm or real disrespect intended in my comments.
Oh, there's a way.....and it'll be more than just a year......as I've been correctly predicting for the past 5. When peeps think that "valid patents" equates to eventual wins and/or that IPR "wins" also supports eventual success and a group of goofy mental cases whose claim to fame is name calling alongside their Vplm opinions, that also does zip to provide a realistic view of this long standing, share printing, share selling, personal insider ATM. All dots connect. This building wave of recently new optimism and cocksure predictions of imminent or near term successes on the way, have been repeated practically verbatim over and over and over, throughout the years and is nothing more than persuasiveness, hubris, wishful thinking, going where the weather suits your clothes, pumping, wise guy-ism, know it all is, trying to impress ism, married to a dead horse ism, etc. The patents have proven themselves since conception, to be useless, valueless, unproven, unsubstantiated fluff. All the IPRs and "validity", contain no proof of anything more than the patents met the basic criteria that the uspto sets forth. That does not incluse, need, value, efficacy, infringement or anything other than they are valid patents. The vast majority of so called valid patents never make a dime and according to my research, courts have yet to consider IPR "wins" as anything of legal weight. Maybe that has changed since I did the research but as far as I know and in total contrast to all those who insist the ipr wins are the piece de resistance, end all be all saving grace that insurers the Vplm ship is coming in, I'm afraid they are in for a long long wait on top of the long long wait already in the bag
As I've correctly explained many times, the quite simple fact o matter is that if the patents were worth even a fraction of what Vplm led peeps to believe...and we're so fundamental and necessary to the operation of voip, there are many common sense deep pocket ceos who would've grabbed the suite long ago.
All the arguments such as they all stole the patents (with their borg hive mentality) and they all think it makes more sense to steal the tech and infringe rather than reap the untold fortunes of owning the patents, have long been dispelled. They don't make sense. They don't add up. They don't hold water. Or the most popular held belief found here for more than a decade, that the dig dogs take this route because they know they can wear down and deplete the Vplm coiffers.......as Vplm has for at least a dozen years shown and proven that they handily had the ways and means (print and sell shares endlessly) to come up with all the cash necessary to keep the carnival operating. This is obvious. It's old news. It is the forest thru the trees but you ignore it as though its not there.
Vplm made wild claims initially but never provided the proofs, such as published results of the worldwide nodal tests.
When shareholders here have been asked repeatedly, would they, had the money, buy the patents, the crickets got loud. Easy to see why.
A farce
An eminence front
A share printing/selling, self enrichment scheme, of the 3rd kind, same as the emu and crew were found guilty of by a jury of their peers.
Disappointment and future regret on tap here
I knew your assumption/theory was off the base when considering the numbers. Doesn't add up. But when i saw you say that for sure Vplm was in the hand of God, I knew it was another whack opinion......lolol.....as if God favors some pennystock. Get a grip.
But if you are here looking for some spare change......... Foget about it
If you are here looking for some changes, check back in a year or 2
Can't blame em...
Oh boy look that! 1.79 cents and ppl here have been groomed for so long they think that's great......
BEST POSITION EVER!
No overthinking there.....eh??
I can't wait to hear you explain where Vplm spends 25 million dollars per week or over 3.5 million dollars per day? (and you expect that to move up to about 133 million dollars per mo or near 34 million dollars per week or near 5 million dollars per day?
Are you serious?...... "Insider selling and lawyers quitting is showing confidence in the future.”.........is part of the actual quote? It's been a long long time since I read that book and don't remember that quote but if so, wow, how syncronistic and fitting to the whole of Vplm "story". What I remember best from Orwell that Vplm always makes me think of is all the "doublespeak" and "doublethink". Also been fond of the saying "even the rats will jump", but you can't beat that 40 yrs ago quote about "insider selling and lawyers quitting".....lol......unless that falls under the "slightly paraphrased" clause...
"all positive"...... Yeah right... Another foolish, myopic, convenient conclusion. No sales, no licenses, no settlements, no partnerships, 1 or 2 cents pos for years on end. A dozen years of false promises of imminent deals and or big dog "interest". Yall keep swallowing it hook line and sinker. Decades company never made a dime....... EXCEPT........for the insiders who have been able to realize millions.
No, hudnell has NOT always been the main squeeze lawyer. Fact o matter is there has been an army, a steady stream of many different lawyers who get in then get out. The lawyers and the insiders have made millions from the carefully constructed insider ATM machine. Vplm has done nothing but but some patents and or patent applications and use them and the fallacious story they have paired with the acquisition, in order to aquire shareholders and sell shares and obtain kazillions for themselves which they resell at humongous profit at shareholder expense...
"It comes down to trusting that the shareholders' interests are adequately aligned with the management's"
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Yeah right.......meanwhile fact o matter is lord emu of eGipped was found guilty of "unjust personal enrichment" AND....."failing to exercise fiduciary responsibilities".....(sorry, those are not the exact wordings of the charges but close enough) BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS, some thing the beliebers oh so conveniently choose to forget or ignore, lolol.
Anyway, so latest developments are simply more of the continuous flow of monkey wrenches that I have predicted for years and which continue to come to fruition. Many more to come. GUARANTEED!
* correction: "breach of fiduciary duty"
Just as Vancouver is the hotbed of pennystock schemes, so too is Vplm the hotbed of cognitive dissonance. That's one of the reasons the faithful beliebers unconsciously allow themselves eat up the rally calls of "patience is a virtue" and "Vplm is in its best position ever!"
A great example of this cognitive dissonance are posts that accuse all the ppl who hang out and post on the msg board, of being basically msg board trolls with nothing better to do than post their baloney and lack of company knowledge and how they are all losers......while at the same time, that's exactly the same thing he is doing and has been doing for a long time with constant daily personal attacks, yet not having a clue he's doing exactly the same thing.
It is great source of entertainment at least.
$19k......$2 mil....deficits.....its all nothing more than contrivences. Vplm is a share printing share selling machine. Nothing more nothing less. Despite all the predictions and projections many years ago, they have handily been able to raise every cent needed to stage the major front they have needed to keep the beliebers believing. It's been no problem for then to raise a huge amount of cash and or shares to facilitate the sham. Make no mistake... Well, you will regardless but Vplm is a money making machine that has spent many millions in cash and shares to get where they are and to continue. While the foolish and bamboozled keep calling, for years, for the ship to come in and imminent settlements have been regularly announced, fact o matter is ships and settles never happen, they are just threatened to keep strumming you along. Meanwhile, my predictions and projections for over 10 years keep holding up and coming true. The recent hash slung about some big boys looking seriously at Vplm contains verbiage nearly verbatim to prs put out a dozen yrs ago... 5 yrs ago I predicted another 10 yrs, minimum, of this...never ending personal insider ATM and never ending monkey wrenches...and that is exactly what it has amounted to. Prepare to be boarded for the next 5 more of the same.
tsk tsk tsk
You sit there and watch it happen right in front of your eyes.
" by representatives of potentially interested parties."
I wonder how many fools don't realize how many times Vplm has USED THAT LINE above to sell more shares...
Vplm....the embodiment of a comedy/tragedy. A study in apolegia.
You know who has prolly been berating them and they moved to get him off their backs...
$23 million loss = "BEST POSITION EVER!! hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahahshhahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahshaha!!!
There will never be a shortage of Vplm shares available. That would be in conflict with their main point, purpose and M.O. which for many years and continuing in perpetuity, is to print and sell shares in the various ways it does so. THAT......IS.......the business that Vplm is in. Everything else you see going on peripherally, is simply part and parcel of the genius manufacturered, contrived, FRONT designed, somewhat madoff style, to pull the wool...to divert you from the real deal. In this view can be found how all the dots connect and jive with the actual bottom line results manifested in the last dozen years. "wars and rumors of wars"...has been turned into "trials and rumors of trials" and "settlements and rumors of settlements".....shall be heard around every corner......so as the hook, line and sinker does.
More importantly, they aint gonna pay sharebolders squat. You can....I mean you can't take THAT to the bank.
Who is stopping you from buying? What a ridiculous request.
Apparently you have never grasped the subtle fact that just because someone has come to not be pro Vplm does not mean the price can't go up sometimes and that ppl underwater might be hoping to recoup some of that. I know it's a tough concept to grasp, but I submit it.
By the same token, just because the price jumps sometimes for various reasons does not validate the company or the patents as on the up and up. Now does it?
under a buck, dummy
It's not that the patents aren't worth nearly as much as Vplm has led yall to believe...
It's that they have PROVEN themselves to be worth NOTHING since their creation around 15 yrs ago.
Sales equate to VALUE. The absence of any sales, licenses, settlements, partnerships....for so many years......equates to zero value.
My 10 more years is now down to about 5.
Better keep taking your vitamins and all your other supplements...
Keep the comedy coming...
Keep dreaming!
Keep using voip... the big dogs appreciate.
Thank the lord emu of eGipped for being your savior.
Keep the faith.
Keep the patience.
Keep your eyes on the mirage..er..ah..prize
Absolutely no criticality about the so called ipr wins. They were not truly wins and they certainly have never shown themselves to be critical in any way. The only thing you're correct about re: them is they were a waste of time and have not done a damn thing for the company or the shareholders. As I said many times, ea positive ipr outcome for Vplm resulted in NOTHING MORE THAN THE ORIGINAL USPTO PATENT ISSUENCES. THAT WAS THE BIRTH OF THEIR VALIDITY and the positive ipr outcomes added zero to that validity! Furthermore, patent validity says nothing about efficacy, need, value or current workability and compatability with today's systems. Repeat NOTHING! A couple years back, in the face of all ppl who like you, cannot understand this is a big NOTHING, I did an extensive search for any kind of legal acknowledgement or agreement by the courts and judges, as to the question OF VALUE OF PTAB IPR POSITIVE OUTCOMES. I WAS SPECIFIC AND PERSISTENT ABOUT IT. SOMEWHERE I HAVE THE 1 AND ONLY OPINION ON IT, WHICH I HAVE SOMEWHERE, AND IT SAID THAT THE COURTS HAVE NOT PUT FORTH ANY OPINION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ON THE QUESTION. PROBABLY STILL THE SAME BUT I'M OPEN TO HEARING ANY OTHER COURT OPINIONS ON THE ISSUE. It's a false sense of value in the accomplishment for several reasons.
1. Nothing gained nothing lost with positive decision. USPTO already meticulously went thru all the considerations assuming they did their job.
2. As you said just stall tactics by the accused.
3. Known fact that the PTAB was corrupt from top down so their decisions are thus. meaningless. PLUS....they were they were threatened by a very important person, Sawyer, to be brought up on federal RICO charges. After that, they didn't know what to do for freaking year incl three 3 judge panels and they finally gave in to the threat then and ever since, something nkt seen with any other company and at least there would be SOME companies that would fare well. So it was the threat of major felonies that brought about the outcome. Of course, all the questions and considerations had all tees crossed and eyes dotted to make it look authentic.
4. Show 1 single court opinion anywhere anytime that addresses this and agrees with you about how allegedly critical the ipr rulings were. Not just msg board opinions.
And he gave you quite a bump on the head, eh?
Vplm has billions and billions of dead cells....
Same as your post...
Vplm is an eminence front.....its a put on.
A farce
An illusion
A jokes on you
An insider share selling personal ATM
A would make madoff proud production
Just to reiterate....for the umpteenth time.... I am not negative nor are my posts negative. I am wholly POSITIVE........that my sentiments and conclusions about vplm are correct. Guess I'll once again have to make this a lesson for dummies... Bashers bash for the sake of bashing. It's a need they have. Or they bash because there recruited to or maybe they think they can drive the price down so they can pickup cheaper. Who knows what lurks in the minds of men (or women)? Same goes for pumpers... Some paid some not some just to help facilitate their locked in positions as good ones that will come to fruition if infinite patience is just applied.
The whacked part is how they feel they are who belongs here on this board, as tho there's a sign outside saying this place is only for pro vplm peeps. They also fallaciously think that if one is not a believer in the company that they are evil, bad ppl who don't belong here and should git from here. It's really really funny to see them think that way. They are uber myopic. There are numerous perfectly valid reasons why a shareholder might be currently negative about the company while also being a shareholder. And also easily explained is why they may be long shareholders. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out. Simple math. For example, the current pps share is not worth selling for most ppl unless you are an insider with a huge lack of faith apparently, in the future of the all that malarkey about billions and billions. If they really believed the near future was bright, no way they'd be selling for chump change prices.
As to the no pay attention but think they know it all's.......who perpetually point out how there were exit points before and their apparently smallish gray matter can't seem to get a grip or use imagination.....I have posted many times that I was way underwater years ago until I wised up and started to day trade and recouped all my losses and then, I can't remember anymore as it's been so long, but I also kept going and made a handsome profit and either had lots of shares leftover or rebought more up until I made the decision to never buy this ripoff stock again which I've stuck to. But at that time, and since, the price has been so bad that I'd rather use the stock for wallpaper than sell it for a penny or 2. I want 50 cents or better or the hell with it. I'm perpetually in the black with this stock so long as I stick to my pledge to never buy again.
There are numerous reasons I have for sticking around the board aside from it's great social media as I have always stayed away from the evil Facebook and Twitter etc. Also, there are always 2 or more sides to every story and those who are not pro vplm lemmings have as much reason and right to be here as anyone else, regardless of their opinions, sentiments, pro or con or even if they own stock or not. Differing facts and opinions are what makes the world go round as much here as anywhere else in the free world. Those who try to tell those who don't agree with them to get out and get away are like nazis and dictators.
Lastly, those that try to say I give no reasons or support or backup, logic or facts to support my feelings about this sham, are nothing but lazy deniers. I have gone to great lengths and thought to support each and every opinion or conclusion I have reached and have used many supporting documentation as well and done so over and over throughout the years. Then some who have been here near as long as I act like I just got off the boat with my conclusions and that they are wild, crazy and without any merit. But I have used lots of critical thinking to get there and been consistent. Those who ridicule, chase after, demean, disrespect, etc, are in a place where they belong. But the amazing thing is there are some like that for years and years who now ridiculously call out others for doing that while at the same time they are the guiltiest of the same attributes to the letter. Psycho land for sure.
If nothing else I have called the it right for years what would happen or not happen with vplm. All the dots connect for me. A read here of the past, shows that all the smart guys have been shown to be consistently wrong at least in terms of what they predicted. It would be great for me and all who hold stock if the ship comes in, but I'm afraid that's never gonna happen.
Thanks, from that we can know and be sure that things will soon be getting worse since ALL of your many previous predictive posts, and I do mean all, have been categorically wrong or should I say Patently wrong. The fact that they have all been wrong and for such a long time, yet rather than being somewhat embarrassed by such a fail, you seem to act as tho it's your, lol, lol, badge of honor. That would normally be a very peculiar stance but here in the land of psychologically challenged, it fits right in and all that's necessary and if any value in your bogus posts is all one has to consider is the opposite of what you say. If you wouldn't mind....look up......now look down........see my thumb? Gee your dumb (you may blame carnac if you want). By the way, Carnac is just a bunch of rocks in France. So I guess it's very appropriate that your carnac predictions are dumb as a rock.
So all that unsuccessful attempts to be a real and profitable voip service company, went on for several years, but they never made a dime of profit, as far as I can find.
The 2nd phase of this failed so called voip company began around 2010, when having been friends with Digifonica, they began to put together the plans to become what they are still are, today. That is the FRONT company, but there is also the underlying reality of what they REALLY ARE...
The front is that they want to sell their obtained patents, ie, they became a patent troll. The reality is all they have setup and done is become a share printing, share selling, self enrichment scheme and that is what they have done now for over 10 yrs!
Long ago they began a pr campaign designed to convince existing shareholders and newcomers to invest in this company. It was a heavy duty heavy handed campaign and I have posted here many of those original LYING PR's which garnered many new shareholders and sold lots of shares bringing in tons of cash to support the ongoing scheme...
All you have to do is go back to the time of the talk about acquisition and read the goings on and see how they went from an alleged voip service provider to all of a sudden change to forget that and just sell the company. If you keep reading eventually you'll start seeing either the posted PR's or my repostings of them, where they promise the world, with the newly acquired patents, and do so over and over for about 2 years, but then COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY RENEGED ON THOSE PROMISES, INSTEAD BECOMING OVERNIGHT, A POSTER CHILD PATENT TROLL. At least THAT was the STORY and the FRONT.....WHILE THE REALITY, AS IT HAS SHOWN ITSELF FOR THE NEXT DOZEN YEARS, WAS NOTHING MORE THAN A WAY FOR THEM TO OBTAIN AND RESELL, AT HUGE PROFITS, THEIR OWN STOCK. AND THEY HAVE MADE MILLIONS DOING SO EVER SINCE, LEAVING THE SHAREHOLDERS TO ALMOST ALL GO UNDERWATER, while they continue to go thru all the motions and litigation to keep shareholders convinced that they are a real patent troll that will bring in billions and billions of bucks in patent infringement cases and licenses and royalties and patent sales. All that's been going on and on and on for into the 2nd decade and never brought in a dime.
THE ONLY REVENUE THEY EVER PRODUCE IS FOR THEMSELVES FROM SELLING SHARES FOR DIRT CHEAP PRICES TO FUND THIS ONGOING VPLM GO FUND ME PAGE! A read of any day in recent times will reveal to you all the kazillions of insider share selling like there is no tomorrow! Meanwhile the pps almost always stays in the 1 or 2 cent pathetic range. There were a couple of short lived big spikes due to news, speculation and paid and unpaid pumping. A look at the charts over time will show you that the spikes are always followed by dumps that result in price slides. It's a 1 or 2 cent stock almost always in spite of all the talk and promises. Litigation has been going on for years but IS ALWAYS OVERSHADOWED by the never ending monkey wrenches which are inevitable because the patents are unproven except to be proven as worthless to any voip companies out there. The simple inescapable fact is if the patents were truly worth many billions and so fundimental to voip usage, then common sense dictates they would been bought by now or at least licensed to thwart the inevitable infringement cases.
To continue, their efforts to be a voip services provider pretty much goes back to close to the beginning, even tho they also were involved with toys and castings in the early days. The main goal was always voip services.. There is no evidence of success in that endeavor. Their efforts involved mostly renting turnkey businesses and or partnerships with other voip providers. If you go back to those beginnings, in this board, you'll read all about how all those efforts, wound up in vplm being accused or sued for reneging on keeping up thir ends of the deals or paying their monies owed to their creditors, partners, owners... It's all there...here actually, describing this as it was happening so you only have to go back to the beginnings and read...
I'm using a new device and it causes the page layout to keep accidently posting because the post button is too close to the typing field. Switching to landscape mode seems to alleviate that problem but this will again lock in a couple minutes so again I have to continue in next post.
For anyone new to this board, please know that there are many many legit reasons and considerations that very well show this company to be BOGUS!
There are so many reasons, hard to know where to start...
A good place would be the fact that the company, thru its various iterations, is over a quarter century old and has never been successful. In fact, as far as is known, records show they've never made a dime!
Let me emphasize that... If your child starts a lemonade stand tomorrow and only sells 1 cup, the would be far more success than vplm has been in 26 yrs!
That's a fact, not an exaggeration or a joke or hyperbole. Ok, let me offer some justification for that. They started 26 yrs ago and had a few name changes and of course numerous changes in mngmnt and crew but the fact is that they have been involved in voip from near the beginning, trying to be a voip service provider. There are those who will say that's not so, but I have documentation of it.
I'll continue this in next post, because I accidentally hit the post button before so this will lock in a minute...
Interesting thing... Come to find out that not only has vplm help cause all the aforementioned PSYCHOLOGICAL issues which run rampant, but I see in at least one case that has morphed into PHYSIOLOGICAL issues as well. Wow, that vplm bs is really powerful stuff! I wonder what the physiological manifestations are....boils? rashes? peyronies disease?
To beheaded
Now that vplm has created a bunch of head case psychos (aka true longs and water mammals) an ambulance chaser is needed to step in on their (the psychos) behalf to start a class action against vplm for shareholder abuse. I'm thinking hudnell would be a good choice as I hear he is also sick and tired of the bs scam he got himself involved with and might be ripe for switching sides and getting behind the real and very sad victims we now see here in all their delusional, spiteful, namecalling glory. At the very least hudnell, since he's not too great at getting actual cash for us, might be able to get these poor souls some much needed medication. Something that is known to prolong patience would be the bees knees.