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eamonnshute, finally someone who understands that this is Intel's, not Wave's show, and what takes place at a show.
And I agree, the price is fine. Much better than $.84 and holding very well above $3.00 for quite awhile now.
Thanks
Bluefang, you are being disingenuous in my opinion.
YOU KNOW that Wave will not have deployment until Q4 of this year.
YOU KNOW that Intel will not ship Motherboards until Q4 of this year.
YOU KNOW that once computers are out there, that the premium service income will not come until Q1 of 2004 and that would be reported until Q2 of 2004.
If you think harping on income that even you know is in the works, but will not be here until a later date, is not disengenous, harp on my friend.
WE KNOW income is coming. You may not believe it. But then again, if you don't believe anything Wave puts out. Our question to you is WHY ARE YOU STILL INVESTED? I know, I know, it has great potential but I still think the CEO is a thief, a low life and a greedy person that is really blowing smoke up our chimney. RIGHT!!!
Jeff, try buying without the 'all or none'. Even if you get it piece meal, it is still only one commission. Chances are better to get it filled that way.
When the MMs step aside for awhile (and not make a market so that it will free fall) you probably won't be able to fill until they make a market on the way back up, as is happening now.
I doubt anyone here was able to buy the stock at $3.10 today.
The MMs reached down and took out all the stop losses just now. They stepped aside and let it drop, only to pick it back up a lower price.
This is a standard game for the MMs. Buy low and sell high. They just went back to fill thier inventory. Now that they have it, they will sell it at higher prices and do it all over again.
Don't place stop losses. The MMs will go get them every time. If you must have a stop loss, keep it mental, and then execute when you get there.
I expect to see $3.40 again sometime today, if not higher. We shall see.
Bluefang you said: "Dear Snackie: Your concern is appreciated and your advice taken to heart. It is so confusing for someone who wishes to be guided by the facts, rather than the heart".
Why don't you look at the facts? Here are just four. I could name 10 more, buy why bother with facts. Negativity sells better, no? The sky is falling the sky is falling.
1. Intel
2. IBM
3. Cubic
4. NSM
Bluefang, apparently you have never worked 'trade shows'. I have for 29 years.
At shows you are working with companies you want to sell your producst to. You are very busy. No one stops and says: "Sorry, I have to go and release a PR as to your interest in our products". It doesn't happen that way.
And please post a link to where Wave said they would post a PR about the debut of some function that individuals, enterprises, software and hardware makers might find of use. I'm sure that is the case, and is happening as we speak, but they never said that on day one they would post a PR. That's just very shallow thinking on your part in my opinion.
You seem to want to trash Wave at every corner. I would think that you would have learn something when we moved from $.84 to $3.40. Why did it move? Who was buyng the 63 million shares? Why are we not back to $.84 if it was all fluff?
I guarantee you that when we get to our old highs of $50 plus, you, CPA and Hhh will still find something wrong with Wave. I Guarantee it.
There won't be enough crow for the three of you to eat in the next couple of years, not that the three of you would concede anything anyway. But who really cares about your message? It is old, repetitive, boring and just plain silly.
It is time to stand up one way or the other. You can't have it both ways.
hifi, yes, my post was a duplicate so I deleted it.
CPA with that kind of thinking you should make a fortune shorting the stock. Go for it.
Blue, that's fine. You keep walking backwards and I will keep walking forward.
It's done deal, can't you see that yet?
But we do need contrarians, so keep the drum beating. There are many here that will help you along the way.
Blue, all the business commentators now ask if they own the stock when they are talking to them. I'm sure that if he does mention Wave, he will be asked if he owns it.
Is there anything at all that can happen that will make you print a positive comment about Wave? LOL. Any and all press, getting Wave's name out there, is GOOD, no?. Things are Good. Just ask AWK.
Come on Blue, get rid of your 'blue mood' and lighten up. Great things are about to happen. Don't Worry, Be Happy.
Kevin, I welcome Largehedgefund. It seems everytime he tells us we are wrong we go up a quarter.
A couple of more posts from her and we will be at $5.00 before the end of next week.
Folks, this is a Wave System's board. It is not for politics, sports reports, morals for children, or any other subject other than Wave Systems and it partners.
There are other boards and other venues to discuss these issues.
I have known JParis and Carl for sometime now. There are not more honest people around. Anyone that accuses them of wrong doing better have their facts straight or be ready to answer to a higher authority. Their dealings with Wave Systems have all been above board as Jim has laid out as far as I know. If anyone has any doubts, I would suggest they contact Wave and get the facts before making accusations as to their honesty.
Unlike other posters here and there, they do not hide who they are. They do not post under multiple handles. What you see is what you get, as with most posters on this thread. I can't say that for the other forums around though.
Let us return to the discussion of Wave Systems and leave the other talk for the chat rooms and OT boards.
Next week will be very exciting for Wave in my opinion. We will have the world looking at us. Make no mistake about it, IDF will be a very important event for Wave.
I don't know if it will happen two days in a row but yesterday at this exact time we only traded a little over 800,000. By closing we were over 2 million. Yesterday were were locked in the same price on the bid and ask for a few minutes. Same thing happening now. Then big volume came in to the close and we moved up $ .13. Today looks like the same pattern so far. We'll see.
"We are delighted to be a part of the TCG Community at the IDF and also to be demonstrating with industry leaders in other areas around the show floor."
Press Release Source: Wave Systems Corp.
Wave Systems To Demonstrate EMBASSY Trust Suite Services With the Trusted Computing Group Community at the Intel Developer Forum
Wednesday September 10, 10:01 am ET
SAN JOSE, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 10, 2003--Wave Systems Corp. (NASDAQ:WAVX - News), a leader in delivering trusted computing applications and services with advanced products, infrastructure and solutions across multiple trusted platforms, today announced its EMBASSY® Trust Suite of applications and services with cross platform interoperability will be demonstrated within the Trusted Computing Group Community exhibition area, Booth 821, at the Intel Developer Forum, September 16-18, at the McEnery Convention Center.
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Wave will demonstrate how the EMBASSY Trust Suite delivers trusted computing services compliant with the TCG specifications implemented on a range of industry platforms. The TCG has defined a specification for a semiconductor device known as the Trusted Platform Module (TPM) to serve as a root of trust for this enhanced services platform. The TPM is a single chip turnkey solution, which serves as the secure core for the enhanced services platform. TPMs provide the trusted resources used by the Wave services to extend trusted functions within a PC.
Wave will also be demonstrating a range of trusted applications at Intel and National Semiconductor booths.
"Wave is driving hard to demonstrate an industry-leading portfolio of TPM-enabled business solutions for both client and server applications that bring a new level of value to the personal computer platform," said Brian Berger, Wave's senior vice president, global business development. "We are delighted to be a part of the TCG Community at the IDF and also to be demonstrating with industry leaders in other areas around the show floor."
Customers may make appointments by contacting Berger at bberger@wavesys.com.
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Consumers and businesses are demanding a computing environment that is more trusted, private, safe and secure. Wave is the leader in delivering trusted computing applications and services with advanced products, infrastructure and solutions across multiple trusted platforms from a variety of vendors. Wave holds a portfolio of significant fundamental patents in security and e-commerce applications and employs some of the world's leading security systems architects and engineers. For more information about Wave, visit http://www.wave.com.
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wavehello, that could be true. I also think the MMs may be way net short going back to the big volume days, and need to cover.
Rip, I tried to e-mail you at your request and got the following:
This message could not be delivered to the following recipients:
<integrity1@yahoo.com>:
64.156.215.6 failed after I sent the message.
Remote host said: 554 delivery error: dd This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account (integrity1@yahoo.com) [-5] - mta218.mail.scd.yahoo.com
Do you have another e-mail address I can contact you at?
rip educate me here. If you used another handle on the other boards what identity protection? It is a handle you used.
Are you not proud of your other handles?
Over a million shares in last 20 minutes.
rip, we are all 'honest' folks here. When some posters couldn't get their old handles back they informed the board who they were on the other boards. Like Clyde, he is now Bonnie and Blue Dolphin.
You don't have anything to hide do you? We are all friends here, no?
Honesty is the best policy.
Just about doubled our volume in the last half hour. Watch the volume. It unlocks all doors.
riptide you said you have been an investor since 98. I assume these boards are not new to you. What handle did you use in the past, as I have never seen 2004riptide on any of the boards?
To the three of you that would like to keep talking about the new 'little shm' coming up, I would suggest to take it to the private messages. This topic has been beat into the ground here, and it's time to move on.
Many thanks,
riptide, there is something you should realize about most Wave investors on this board. Most of us have been in this investment for over six years plus. We have seen the supply chain built from the ground up. We have been waiting for the flow from the rest of the world regarding trusted computing. That flow only started in June of 2002. The flow picks up speed in the fourth quarter of this year when Intel's mobo hits the streets and many box makers deploy Wave's technology.
I don't know how long you have been an investor. I don't even know if you ARE an investor. You may be a trader, a momentum player or a short, I do not know. I do know this however, Wave will move at the speed of the market. That market is just happening now. You will see the supply chain Wave has built come into full focus over the next few months in my opinion.
Patience is the mode for investors, but I doubt it is for the traders, momo players or shorts.
If you are a real investor, you will look back in a year or two and see what a once in a life time investment looks like.
All in my opinion of course.
rachelelise, not only should they take this off the boards but each of their posts are duplications: taking about the same thing over and over again and that is not allowed here.
zoomer over compensated by who's judgement?
Let's see now, we have 'something' to do with Intel, IBM, Cubic, Atmel, NSM, NEC, and how many more companies that will be coming out soon.
We have the IDF September 16th and waiting in the wings for HP. I suppose these things 'just happened'. Management had nothing to do with it.
I bet if I asked you two years ago would you give SKS $400,000 if he could get Wave's technology on the Intel motherboard of if IBM would offer Wave's technology on their Web site would you think they were over compensated then?
I don't think so. I think you are all nickpicking and not looking at the bigger picture.
We have only seen the tip of the iceberg. In my opinion we are getting what we paid for.
So Zoomer, you think management would jeopardize the future for some hidden gains now? That no one sees what they are doing (sinister) and they are going to fool the street, IBM and Intel? You think they are doing that?
And you are disappointed that I don't believe management would risk doing this and take the chance that they could lose everything?
SPIN, I will tell you why you should not be so worried about what Wave's management is doing money wise.
We are on the radar screens now. We have been validated by Intel and IBM. We are on the verge of deployment. (We will be deploying on Intel MB's in the next 120 days). There is no way in heck that management will jeopordize the progess they have made through Intel, IBM, Cubic and all the rest of the OEM's that have not come public yet.
You have to give management some credit that they are not complete idiots. Sit back, relax, and be ready to count your money.
Just to clear things up I never said that we would be at $300.00 in 3-5 years and I am not advocating that now.
The poster was complaining about management and I said "When we are at $300-$500 3-5 years from now................."
This statement was made in the contect of the posters objections to management and was not to be taken as fact.
Boy, sometimes it is sure hard to make ones thoughts clear around here.
I AM NOT SAYING WE WILL BE $300.00 3-5 YEARS FROM NOW, but it's not impossible either.
If we have a qualcomm adventure anything is possible.
A point of information, last Friday we closed at $2.95 and the week before $2.92.
A close today above $3.00 gives us three weeks of higher lows. A good sign.
A $3.24 close will give us a 10% increase for the week.
This ARE good.
Racheleise, it was just a number that was thrown out there, not carved in stone.
At 75 million shares at the moment that only 22 1/2 billion. LOL
Not impossible by the way in 5 years. Not impossible at all.
Larry, here is what I see. If (big word IF), maybe I should say WHEN Wave reachs $40.00 let's say there is a split. Within 3-5 years this happens four times.
So, if you own one share at $40.00 and it splits you now have two shares at $20.00. When it get back to $40.00 again it splits again. Now you have four shares at $20.00. The third time this happens you now have eight shares at $20.00 and the fourth time it happens you have sixteen shares at $20.00 which equals a share price of today at $320.00.
Now if the split happens at a higher price than $40.00 the single share price will be higher than the $320.00 in 3-5 years. Of course the reverse is true also, if the split is less than $40.00 it will be worth less than the $320.00.
Hope this helps where I came up with the $300-$500 per share price. All in my opinion of course.
P.S. I did not say this would happen, just that there is a possibility it could.
2004 I don't agree with you. The shareholders have kept them in business for the past five years and they know that. They will make the shareholders successful IMO.
When we split 3-4 times over the next five years and your shares are worth the equivalent of about $300 to $500 then come and tell me that they don't care about the shareholders and they are only in this for themselves.
eamonnshute, didn't they have to get the authorized shares increased before they could vote the other 19% of the deal?
Didn't the extra 19% take them over the original 75 million authorized shares. Therefore there were no shares to complete the deal until the authorized shares were raised to 120,000 million?
Interesting last hour.
At 3:00
$3.16 4,619,546 traded
At 3:30
$3.15 4,868,295 traded (248,749 in last 1/2 hour)
At 3:40
$3.15 4,949,295 traded (81,000 in last 10 minutes)
At 3:50 5,034,995 traded (85,700 in last 10 minutes)
$3.22
closing 5,842,440 traded (807,445 in last 10 minutes)
$3.38
Jeff, thinking the same thing at the same moment. Scary.
SSP over a dollar and at 75,000 shares traded. That is like Wave trading 30 million shares. Will Wave be able, or want to sell it's stake in SSP?
We have additional shares in the kitty now.
rooster thank you and thank you to 88 Carrera also for finding it.
This was posted by a poster over the week-end and I am sorry, I do not remember who posted it. Could the street be seeing this today?
IBM Strategy Report
Go to this link and look at who this newsletter is intended to reach. Then look down about halfway into recent topics.
http://www.ibmstrategy.com/index.html
Doma, I think in the long run we will have both.