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I'm shocked DNAG still exists and people are still posting here.. So DNAG made $1,000 on a race DNA test..
I think they owe $11million..
So just $10,999,000 dollars left..
It's amazing DNAG did not go bust..
Dutchess never closed the shop here.. I guess they get paid back in tiny amounts over a VERY long period of time..
There are SO many much better investments..
Why are people here??
Stockboy, All. CALL YOUR LAWMAKER!! Tell them to vote NO on this CRAP save the rich bad lenders bill!! The vote is at sundown today!!
EFTI went Bankrupt! I'm shocked this dog is still breathing...
It's in the penney junk yard though..
Another Frudakis.. Production..
It begs the question..
Where does it go??
"Scam artists work on multiple scams at once.."
Sure..
Tony had that other scam bio company.. What was the name? ..
Tony was all over that company, even CEO there..
Dick, my guess is in hiding until the heat blows off and he will likely scam something else...
Just my guess...
Scam and jam...
And in some cases, as public as Dick was.. Hide out for a while first!
(May be change the wig also?)
Just my opinions..
Stockboy.. That could still happen in June!! There are still 4 days left in June..
It dies in July?? EFTI went Bankrupt June 20th..DNAG could be next..
We'll see.....
Altarboy.. Annual meeting place has been decided!!
http://www.fotosearch.com/UNY004/u22916605/
(LOL!)
And that is if DNAPrint still exists..
Natures Way..Speculators will buy dirt.. An empty shell and hope it gets reformulated into a new and stupider scam!! (To fund the salaries..)
altarboy4.."Dick Gabriel is a scam artist." Yes, I have to agree with that. I believe DNAPrint just used fancy words and big names like HARVARD to drum up suckers to buy stock to pay their 300K salaries.... I believe in my mind anyway that he especially deceived investors with junk products from Harvard to cause investors to buy this stock.
But that is my opinion......and others may feel differently..
This stock is dead and getting buried now......
We were shamed!
Such is life.
"DNAPRINT GENOMICS INC - DNAG Securities Registration: Small ...At January 1, 2007, Richard Gabriel's annual salary is $300000 with $210000 paid in cash and $90000 deferred; Hector Gomez's annual salary is $288000 with ..."
THE DNAPrint circus made made GREAT money for those clowns for a long time.......
Again... That is just my opinion. The fat lady has got DNAG's number!!
http://tattooedgurus.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/04-fat-lady-sings.jpg
America allows penney stocks(all co's with stock) the ability to print their own money... shares of stock.. and the company officers pay themselves $300,000 SALARIES!!
Yikes!
What a racket!
ALTAR--EXACTLY!! They got their sweet salaries.... we got the shaft!
True that!!!!!!!!
"Stocky the problem there is just no federal oversight on these kinds of stocks and as a result scamming and fraud are pervasive. We were lied to big time by these jackasses."
stockboy-- "In JULY IT DIES!" I'll add "In July it dies and no more lies." I hope you are right..
I'm just waiting for this to croak, so I can see my lesson learned(and my losses completed)..... I should never have believed in a company with a sign on the ground and a run down office, with the company officers driving hummers and buying 1.4million dollar houses...
God bless america! What a loophole.
Homer Simpson say..... Du'oooooowwwwwwwwwww
altar--ditto that for me also.
stockboy.. nobody ever knew if Ovanome had any real success..?? That was always a question mark.....
At this point I agree with you and I have to estimate that Ovanome even if it has some benefit that the benefit is not significantly sufficient for DNAPrint to charge for it and be of enough benefit in general. (Similar to statnome.)
If someone can prove me wrong ........ Post it!
I'd be interested to see it.
DMCENG- True, I guess the ones who are owed the money might as well wait and see...
Bioserve and DNAPrint are trying to bring Ovanome to life..
That would bring light to this graveyard..
While the Bioserve, ovanome work is an interesting thought, nothing will be ready until 2009 as they say and by 2009, will DNAG still have a building or will it be operating out of Tony or Richards huge houses??
Bioserve will have to pay for everything.. DNAG is operating on air.
Good luck with that.. Who knows.. But, we'll see..
How are they paying back the 11.5million?
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bs?s=DNAGE.OB
I guess that says it all.......(In my opinion)
Chiggah-10million shares still!! Well, sometimes empty shells get renewed into something different..
Who knows..
Wow, that is a lot of shares..
I hope it does something for you!
I say trade it if you get a chance..
Good Luck!
Preciouslife1--Why do you defend them?
Good Point jpslots.."Hummers and a sign hanging on 1 chain says it all."
I gotta go with stockboy and froggie on the DNAG analysis and I also have moved on after taking losses like lvreach...
Preciouslife1 likes Tony...... But what about Richard Gabriel.
I believe he brought on much hype and the tone of his voice for attempts at financing was very poor as many commented.
I don't have anything positive to say about DNAG in general..
Just that they skate free after drawing nice salaries.
Good Job boys!
Now, get real jobs!
Good Day!
"Frog give this up - is DNAG really worth a pissing match now??"
No.......
Preciouslife1--As we see the truth of this company now as compared to......this OLD article.....
We were led (by DNAPrint staff)on to believe a very different story.
I can only say Du'ooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww..
YES, BUY BIGGER COMPANIES with real chances.....
OH WELL........ IT'S ONLY MONEY))))))
The Sarasota article..... http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/business/16502822.htm
YIKES...... This is the actual article!!
MANATEE FIRM MAKING LEAPS AT DNA'S DAWN
Small specialty, global fame
SARA KENNEDY
Herald Staff Writer
MANATEE - For a company whose lab work regularly solves crimes, has made international headlines about Margaret Thatcher's family heritage and is poised for growth at the scientific frontier of medicine, the vibe at DNAPrint Genomics, Inc., is surprisingly low-key.
A single, hand-lettered sign scrawled with the company's name this week was the only indication it had moved during the holidays from downtown Sarasota to a larger building at 1621 W. University Parkway in southern Manatee County. The move was necessary to provide more space for its new subsidiary, DNAPrint Pharmaceuticals, Inc., officials said.
The company's specialty is human genetics and, in particular, the genome, the content of all of an organism's hereditary information. It is a developer of genomics-based products and services.
Its forensic work and genealogy tests have made international headlines in stories broadcast on National Public Radio and in publications like The New York Times, USA Today, CBS News and London's The Sunday Times.
The company's findings figure in the investigation of sensational crimes, such as an effort to capture the so-called London Minstead Rapist, a serial rapist suspected of more than 90 assaults. Scotland Yard has turned to DNAPrint Genomics for help.
"The investigation has drawn heavily upon forensic resources for psychological and geographic crime profiles," said Matthew J. Thomas, Ph.D., the company's senior scientist and manager of laboratory operations, after a trip to London last summer. Investigators used DNA information to analyze crime scene samples, but as far as Thomas knows, they have not yet made an arrest in the case.
On Wednesday, Thomas was giving a tour of his firm's bright new laboratory and discussing one of its DNA testing products - AncestrybyDNA, a kit designed to reveal an individual's family heritage.
For a $240 fee, clients can send a swab with tissue from inside the cheek that the company uses for a basic test, which pinpoints a person's genetic heritage based on four major anthropological groups: Native American, East Asian, sub-Saharan African and Indo-European. Depending on the results, additional tests may be ordered.
The tests have produced some shocking results. One of the company's tests showed that Henry Louis Gates Jr., the famous black scholar, was half white. Another showed that Carol Thatcher, daughter of former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, was of Middle Eastern descent.
Each test takes a couple days of work, Thomas said.
The company, with 20-some employees spread over the United States and Canada, stays connected to its far-flung staff through electronic communications rather than face-to-face interaction, said Emanuela I. Charlton, Ph.D., who works in customer service.
It has employees in California, Pennsylvania, Colorado and Toronto, she said, adding that it also owns a percentage of a German company called BioFrontera.
Richard Gabriel, DNAPrint Genomics' chief executive officer and president, who accepted shares of stock instead of cash compensation when he was hired in 2002, lives in Boston. Gabriel hired the company's chief medical officer and chairman of the board, Hector J. Gomez, M.D., Ph.D., who resides in Tampa.
The company's annual revenues are in the $3 million range, Gomez said in a phone interview from Tampa. He said the money the company earns is sufficient to operate its labs, but acknowledged wearily that he is "in the process of raising money all the time" for research and development.
During 2006, the company invested almost $3.2 million in research and development and $133,000 in patents to protect its technology rights, according to material the company provides investors.
Gomez said he expects the new subsidiary, DNAPrint Pharmaceuticals, Inc., launched in October 2005, will help its bottom line. It will be ramping up in the company's new quarters and the technology Gomez expects it to develop would cut by half the 12 years and $800 million currently necessary to develop a new drug.
"Now, with this technique, we can reduce the time of drug development by at least half to six years and decrease the cost by a significant number because we're minimizing mistakes," he explained.
It will attempt to design drug regimens that go beyond the one-pill-fits-all concept.
"With this technology, pharmaco-genomics, it allows us to take a sample of DNA from any patient and in the lab predict response - who is going to respond well, who will have side effects. Obviously, we can do that then by maximizing the efficiency of the drugs and minimizing the side effects, based on the person's genetic makeup," Gomez said.
Both Gomez and DNAPrint Genomics will also be part of a massive research initiative announced last month by the H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center & Research Institute of Tampa. The center said it would partner with an affiliate of Merck & Co., Inc. pharmaceutical company to expand biotechnology research with the goal of developing personalized medicine.
Merck and Moffitt will form a for-profit company, called M2GEN, that will develop personalized cancer treatments using a patient's genetic profile.
Researchers plan to compile a database of tumor tissue and other medical information to determine why some patients respond to a treatment and others do not. The database could grow to more than 30,000 patients within five years, officials said in announcing the partnership.
"For a look at future, in 10 years, I believe you'll have (something similar to) a credit card in your pocket with all your information. It's your genetic makeup and the doctor will look at it and prescribe the medicine for you," said Gomez. "We are very excited about this."
DNAPrint Genomics was founded by Tony Frudakis, Ph.D., and acquired by another company in 2000. In 2001, Frudakis teamed with other scientists to develop new genomics products with consumer, forensic and pharmaco-genomics applications, according to Securities and Exchange Commission documents.
Since then, the company has acquired several other firms that brought scientific assets with them, such as Kenna Technologic Inc., which develops software for building computer models that mimic biological systems, and Ellipsis Biotherapeutics Corp., which specializes in genotyping and can analyze human, plant and animal tissue, SEC documents said.
Last year, the company entered into an exclusive license agreement with Harvard College at Harvard Medical School, for research and development of a diagnostic test that would identify those at risk of developing vascular diabetic complications, SEC documents reported.
jpslots.. I guess at one time, many of us here were very postive on DNAG....
Looking at this story now I see a very different picture from what I saw last year at this time.
My best analysis is we got FLIM-FLAMED!
Ouch! That hurt!
Preciouslife1--AFTER THAT 8K when the EPO and all Harvard projects were dropped... You remain positive on this company. That's OK...
Each person is entitled to an opinion.
I am looking at the facts and expressing an opinion based on what I see....
Am I really coming out of left field here?
I'm not saying that I did not believe in DNAG at one time. I got burned by it. I'm saying that I do not believe in them now.....
I should have listened to stockboy.. What did I know??
altar--GOOD LUCK! I hear ya! Yep, I bet DNAG folks will skate free on to new scams! (My guess)
I can post my opinion of the "SCIENCE" (weird science)
"Science
DNAPrint® 's Core Technology
Our proprietary mapping strategy, maps of Ancestry Informative Markers (AIMs), and proprietary, patent-pending methods and algorithms constitute a powerful genomics discovery platform that we call ADMIXMAP. The ADMIXMAP technology platform is powered by a suite of proprietary systems and processes wholly developed at DNAPrint®, including
http://www.dnaprint.com/welcome/science/ "
When my opinion is added.....
DNAPrint stock lifting technology
Our proprietary mapping strategy, confuses investors into thinking that, Garbage Ancestry MarkErS (GAMES) and stock inflating methods constituted a powerful genomics scam that we called DNAGE. THE DNAGE technology formed a powerful stock lifting process where by we increased outstanding shares to get paid nice salaries do to little work, and buy excessive toys.. which included houses, hummers and GABBY's WIG!
OUCH!! We got the shaft!!!!!! Unless somebody can prove me wrong.... I got a tax writeoff!!!!
SLAMED!!!!!
BBBabe--My opinion is that you are defending DNAG's scam. I don't believe any of these products had any potential.. I believe these things were bought to pump up DNAG price so DNAG could issue more shares and pay their salaries!!
http://www.dnaprint.com/welcome/pipeline/
THIS IS MY OPINION......
Pipeline---------------------------My opinion...CRAPOLA!
DNAPRINT® PRODUCTS PIPELINE(Stick this in their pipe,, but we got smoked by it!!)
PT-401 EPO Dimer------------THE heart of the pump CRAPsht!
ANCESTRYBYDNA™ 2.5 -----THE only product with any sales.
EURO-DNA™ 1.0 -------silly hype additives
EURO-DNA™ 2.0 ---------"
RETNOME--Who actually uses this?????
OVANOME ------DNA alone is not good enough to tell drug response.....
STATINOME
ACENOME---------An attempt to a GMED partnership.
Amerind 1.0 --------What is that trash?
BC-LOH -------LOH is a version of LOL (Laugh out loud)
Ondansetron ------This is a dinasour that roamed the earth billions of years ago.....
Melphalan/Topotecan -----DNA never played enough of a roll in drug response and I bet DNAG knew it for yrs but still played dumb to keep the stock up!
Xeleri/Xelox " SAME"
altar--I believe for the most part that we have been lied to, but that won't hold up in court. In my opinion, DNAG will say that they just failed in business and investors knew the risks. It's a perfect loophole.....
That is my opinion.
This tax writeoff is done......
altar--My guess is they got GREEDY!! I venture to guess ol' GABBY bought the 401EPO knowing it was trash and other things at harvard that nobody else wanted also knowing these things were trash in order to pump up the stock and keep their salaries flowing!! As long as they could pay their rapidly increasing salaries, they would continue to pump trash into their joke "Pipeline."
Ancestry is still going as I see here. http://www.ancestrybydna.com/welcome/ordernow/
That is the only thing DNAG has, and was likely just bought from Mark Schriver. DNAG, through years and years may only have bought on thing that earned tiny money and the rest was fluff so they could issue more shares and pay their salaries and buy more hummers and (Gabby's 1.4mil house!!)
If someone asked them in court about the "fluff" they would say they tried and failed and that is business and claim that it was not their fault investors just took their risks...
Yep, god bless america!
Du'ooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!
Nice loophole!
“The capacity to blunder slightly is the real marvel of DNA.
Without this special attribute, we would still be anaerobic bacteria and there would be no music.”
- Lewis Thomas
(From the DNAGE web sight....old crapola.. but let's correct that to reflect DNAPrint more properly...)
“The capacity to blunder consistently and get away with paying our high salaries is the real marvel of DNAGE.
With this special attribute, we are anaerobic bacteria and there is no music.”
- Stockholder101
Has anybody visited DNAGE's office? Is Tony in that lab in Sarasota still, or has operations just stopped and the stock is still trading.....??
Who knows?
In anycase... My guess is this company is finished.
DNAGE owed 11.5mil as of Sept 07 and had assets of, well it shows 3.1mil but that is in "Intellectual property" most likely and really has no value in my opinion. I would say assets are 1.88mil.......
I would say close the shop, but that is just my opinion.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bs?s=DNAGE.OB
BIO-SERVE, as Sam is posting is DNAGE's last gasp hope. Hmmmmm, Bioserve is trying to do something with Statnome and Ovanome.....
Statnome only barely helps detect muscle probs....
Ovanome..... we never knew or saw any results there......
I still believe DNAGE is dead, but the stock could rise briefly on hype at anytime......
DNAGE...DANGER... DINGEY..TAXWRITEOFF..
Anybody still own shares here??
I think DNAG continues to operate because of all of the shareholders and yes.. The 6million owed!! That is a lot of ancestry tests!!
So many angry investors..
Oh well...
Stockboy... My guess when you pull up DNAG, you'll get..
"Symbol not found..."
And that will be that!!
M2GEN
Spinout
Takeover
From what is see now..
They were just junk released by the company to keep shareholders holding..
But, the best thing that keeps shareholders holding now, is it's so low nobody wants to take such a loss..
Management had it wrong all of the time..
Just let the stock drop!!!
Just my thoughts, ramblings..
Yeah, I got shafted, Homer Simpson say.... Du'ooohhhh!
Finally... This looks ready to rise!! CNST is back! The 4th quarter earnings call should be within a week or so.
ann441j--AncestrybyDNA is all that is left of DNAPrint?? Since Karen quit, is it just Tony and Hector in the Sarasota office doing that without any salary??
All the rest of the stuff.....
The EPO and CD-59 in my opinion, were just stuff bought by DNAPrint to make it seem like the company was doing something. These things I believe DNAPrint (the CEO)just paid for to keep the share price up in my opinion.. but again that is just my opinion.
From the last 8K, it said DNAPrint cannot pay to file 10Q's anymore and will go to the pink sheets...
Back to where it was in 2002 or so..
I just call this a tax writeoff!! Ouch!
"DNAPrint had a big year in 2007." I disagree.. The last 8K means that DNAPrint had a bigger 2008!! Or should I say smaller!!
I think that all of these small companies should be removed from the stock exchanges and stopped!!
Just my opinion..