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working web site: smokefreeinnotec.com , take out the dash....
Because they (you know who)...want you to sell at insanely low prices so just in case this stock does unlock...they don't get screwed ....
How is it that I ordered, received and was extremely impressed by the products on three occasions...the packaging is very corporate looking...as if produced by large well thought out enterprise...there is no basis for scam claims here...none whatsoever!! If the lock and law had' nt happened and timing had beento more approiate this could have gone nationwide no problem .....imo of course....now I believe...we can get that 2nd point more accurately timed....
ouch...crime does not pay! as the saying goes...
No one knows if SFIO will be unlocked or not...no one. To say other wise is lie, plain and simple. We all just have to wait and see what happens...
so new web site appears to be a more simply laid out company site...just add the dash and it take you to the old first site...or click product...
im a little confused, but pleased that something is going on! i hoping to see action from Denverson! but like Yoda has said they can contuinue to progress and the company can grow inspite of the lock...a just maybe some day this will pay-off!!
I agree we will eventually do well...I say we begin where smokers have no choice but to use us or go with out nicotine...ie military, large cities with no smoking areas, air travel...ect. I just don't see us being chosen over cigarettes just yet...eventually the pop trend will change.
I do believe the right place distributer is critical! We don't want to make the wrong commitment and get stuck going down the wrong road . Especially now that were in this vulnerable situation. I bet George will be holding off for the right fit so we can grow and prosper! Even if it means rubbing pennies together for the time being.
we were all talking about patience a little while back. well if life is about growth then i guess this is an opportunity for me to grow into a new awareness of patience...i attracted this opportunity with SFIO so i must need it on some level. If i choose to face it rather than blame it i may have an excellent opportunity here to not repeat myself...who knows i may wake up some morning and be a suprised in a good way!!! like smoke said...
hi new beginner...you can call scottrade and place the sell order over the phone, but not buys...gltu
Good to see you as a mod sunil!! I always enjoy your researched industry and company relevant posts....do you have anything on denverson? I check out there web site regularly....don't know anywhere else to look...thanks
Go RE/AL SOON!!
Thanks RAGinvestor! Amazing how things play out...usually pretty good, unless I get to worked up and sell at the wrong time, usually by listening to the wrong voices... i'm in on this one...not selling...I want in for the whole story.
On a different note...I was at Universal yesterday and watched the smokers, I usually am doing that, you know they were lighting up everywhere...I couldn't believe it. Not inside but were still not making it that hard for them to light up...frankly our product is made for that...in a RE/AL world places like universal, disney, movie theatre ect....the list is endless. They should love our product!! Not only would it encourage smokers to come, but they make bucks selling um!!
BV...SFIO is a stock symbol not a company name. we toss around like the company name only because were dealing with the investment side of this entinity ...why would you or AHN refer to them in that manor in an email about them, that like calling me by my social security #? If i were AHN i would have responed to you the same way...they also have been bothered many time before by our followers and im sure it privilaged information...just my take on it...
Similar does not have the heat! The whole advantage In RE/AL And looks like a yucky plastic filter tip...its not the same...but like hallmark cards are sold in supermarkets right next to there franchise stores...go figure?!....before you knock Re/AL..if you haven't tried it you won't see the superiority...
What i'm gleaning from pit and fo' share and news from SFIO is that smokefree-I's crew gain protected territorys from AHN, the likes of the US, new zeland, 10 countries in europe ect......
Thanks smoke! Were fortunate to have you! RagI did your shares of courtside roll into SFIO?
Mike you may want to bring yourself up to speed on sfio prior to any declaration of doom...this company has the ability to go into hibernation for quite some time if necessary...bankruptcy is not in their near future, check out the last year of pr's for clarification...
For their success though, they need to get their product to market...imo denverson will be their springboard...this will open up soon ...
Mike..the smokefree-innotec site is up and running..the smokereal site was apparently run feuenties who conspired with TS...i'm sure George said good reddens in his continuing effort to clean up the companies image...income will come with the denverson agreement and up Comming distribution contracts...
As a start-up struggling to enter the next phase...forward momentium will at times seem so slow as to appear dead while when least expected rocket forward and surprise us all....good luck!!
Happy new year RE/AL! GREAT THINGS AHEAD 2012
I am very excited for RE/AL to make it to the market place soon. As traditional tobacco smoking become less and less accepted...it wil be replaced...it will need to deliver nicotine in the most acceptable mannor while retaining the feel and functionalty of the old form.
RE/AL accomplishes that feat most ingeniously! But smokers are not going to switch until they have to...were in a unique nitch situation, where our customer wont want us until they have to have us! And I don't think were quite there yet...although were close. The military has not yet pulled the trigger on smoking and truthfully smokers are tough and stubborn ...they walk a mile for a camel as the old add goes...and..well soon that camel wont be there. But RE/AL will!
Therefore I don't think there's a rush here. Although that conflicts with my investment attitude ....I want it now!!! I think George sees this and has had to slow it down a bit.
Its kinda like putting the seat belt law into effect....I got a $125 ticket a few months ago...and finally let go and started wearing one...now I can't believe I didn't for so long...until the pain got great enough I wasn't willing to change....looks like I was one of the last hold outs...
Any chance in forming a group of us to put some $cash$ together, aside from our stock, and help George get this thing launched....has that been discussed? Is that possible? At the least pay for a news release....
I agree with you E.Y.! T.S. would have found a way to dump his shares if this were going to go down...and he would know best...he even mentioned to stockholders that he was glad to be able to give us a boost in our value...I think he ment to those who bought down, and be able to pocket a little like he did...but hold on to a lions share....foe the future progress....
SFIO has been R+D mode since it's inception so the finanical's seen in there true light mean little...going forward from here unknown territory. If you read through innotec web site they have followed through quite methodiclly with their bus plan.
there sure have been a multuide of road blocks in there way since june but to claim they are dead is a bit of an assumption and in all likelyhood comes from disgruntled shareholders. If i felt that way i think i would just sell and move on...
I am keeping my eye on Denverson and hoping for some news from them...even with all that T.S. has done negativly i still can't but believe that he had a deep passion for this product and helping both the smoker and non-smoker from killing themselves.
I want this to succeed not for the money anymore but this could really benifit our society!!
its just somebody getting out...let um go...the sooner the weak get out the sooner we can get unlocked...pps right now means nothing...frankly id rather it go down ...not all of us are going to make it...sacrafice is in order here...all i say is thanks
RE/AL
Yoda...is that an actual e-mail from AHN or im I being a gullible knucklehead .....merry christmas eve and thank you for all your sophisticated analysis .....
Thanks yoda! Sure sounds plausible. Does it mean that until enough of us sell and allow real shares to replace all air shares at low. 002 range prices ...were remaining idle? Could sfio benefit from withholding news of progress on purpose so infact that does happen...maybe to the point of even not progressing forward with business plan until such happens....wow what an unusual situation....
older news paste outlining possiblilities for RE/AL in the U.S. military:
Mr. Bacon writes: “The smoking lamp will soon be out aboard all subs, according to the Navy’s top officer”. Admiral Gary Roughead, Chief of Naval Operations Administration, told the Navy Times: “We’re going to stop smoking on submarines”. The move is not yet official yet. Vice Admiral John Donnelly ‘is examining the options of changing the policy of smoking in a submarine to improve the overall health of the entire crew’. According to the Navy Times a final order is likely to come soon. The catalyst for change is the effect of second-hand smoke on crew members who remain submerged for months at a time. “That atmosphere moves around the submarine,” Roughead said, “you don’t smell it, but the damaging elements from the smoke are still present.”
Smokefree Innotec, Inc. is a purveyor of smokefree alternatives and recently signed a distribution arrangement for the world’s first totally smokefree hi-tec cigarette with Leading Points Corporation.
“Leading Points is working diligently to generate market awareness and education, amongst military service members and veterans informing them that a healthier Smokefree option exists.” Stated Lieutenant Colonel Kevin T.K. Sullivan (US Army Ret.) President of Leading Points Corporation. ”Articles such as that found in the NavyTimes reinforce our belief that there will be a dynamic shift in the spending patterns currently involved with military tobacco sales.” In 2005, the military sold $611 million worth of tobacco. Sullivan further stated, “Leading Points Corporation has delivered Smokefree product to senior buyers of the military exchange services for consideration. We will provide all necessary oversight to help Smokefree Innotec gain favorable results in this endeavor.”
About Leading Points Corporation: www.leadingpoints.com
Leading Points Corporation, founded in 2004, specializes in marketing to the military market, and are acknowledged experts in matters of securing placement of their clients’ products in the military exchange store distribution channel as well as special promotions to the military community. The company is headquartered in Centennial, Colorado.
SFIO could be in a holding pattern for sometime to come...they don't have alot of expenses, so why would they go bankrupt? Roth has from time to time let us know he is busy behind the scenes, what more can we expect....light at the end of the tunnel doesn't mean you out of the tunnel...
I don't mind the negative post so much...they tend to be indicators of news ahead..when ranting hit a 10 and all the positive folks disappear...we get hit with the big ones...that the time to make the home run money!!! Go RE/AL
price per share means nothing until millions of shares start trading!! and if the web site is our vehicle for sales success were in way more trouble than anything were looking at now!!
imo..the short term focus will be on denverson ramping up sucessfully....cause that will be impariative for our doing the same here in the states. I'm hoping to hear some news from them and really i'm not worried...it's a great product...i'm not selling at any price period.
Are they starting to cover now ... is that why were having this volume the last couple of days...my shares are also in Scottrade ...are they the culprits? Pretty big company I should think they could easily cover this little penny stock situation...my goodness...I stopped doing trades in that account because I suspect this...
How do we encourage the SEC to go after our NSS culprits?
2 things I like about this lawyer:
Smart enough to stay anonymous to some of these shareholders...I wouldn't want some of you (no names mentioned) to have my address and phones#....
Whatever lawyer hasn't been repremaned by pushing the envelope isnt who I would want representing me.....being careful and cautious isn't a lawyers job .....that would be his/ her clients responsibility...I like that he went to Stanford and Cornell....and of course he got his trouble rectified .....
Law is tricky business.....
Thanks longshot! I think this is news to focus on...George has put our forward momentium with the denverson folks because their positioned for lift-off! And we'll. Move right along with them! Why the negativity here i'm as confident as when I first bought over a year ago!
Things are happening at Denverson...I don't know german but if you look at AKTIONARSBRIEF on there web site it saying something about distributors ....Lekkorland...big in 8the european countries selling out of gas stations, convince stores ect...and something about selling to sectors of the us military...
yes... and receivables have value as well...and supplyers to SFIO also work on terms...yes..capitalism works on credit.
as i said yesterday mr. B their really not a retailer...they will count on there distributers for that task...plus they will be paying them for that. AS we move forward this will begin to take shape and become clearer.
posting that the building is on fire....get out now! can't be construed as helpsful to anyone but drama junkies...
P-Dog i dont think thats what you have here. SFIO does not exibit the stock dumping and reverse split tell-tail signs of those stock cherning atm's that you speak of...misfortune and inappropiate timing yes...
the e-cig industry seems to be in a wild west phase...hard to determine or surmise much of anything that will play out as the months roll on...but i think our product will rise to the surface eventually...but culturally we havent even come close to the big switch that needs to take place for e-cig's success anyway...so time is on our side at this point...
Tim Tebow = George Roth = 4th Quarter heroics!!! and not a minute sooner
Very...that is a possibility, worst case...but I don't think its going to play out like that. With Denverson $, and mr. Roth keen budgeting...we will navigate these rough seas safely....just because there not covering doesn't mean they wont have to at some point....if I were them I would wait till the last possible minute too...they can't escape the universal laws at work here.....tic toc too!!
Using your car manufacturing analogy...you have the plant ready to go...the car is designed, the parts suppliers in place, you just need to sign up the dealers. Here were talking about distributors....they will put up the $$...sfio is a manaufactor...I think the website is gone because I think its a conflict of interest to sell direct to the public if your trying to attract distributors....its a delicate prosess...RE/AL
no smoke...thats why we have a gold mine here! the fact that our produt flys under the radar...give the satisfaction to the smoker while in places he/she is unable to smoke...
i can't help but think if i had the choice between RA/AL's nanobead system and breathing in glycerol into my lungs...as all other E-cig's do...it's a no-brainer!!