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Yes, this is true Rocket Rider...there's only so much MMs can do...however what you are saying is called collusion and without being regulated and being a pink anything can happen...I'm in for the long haul for sure but one definitely needs to keep an eye out...just glad I have physical as well...takes the edge off this enigma....if there are any doubters as to the open manipulation in the mining sector left on this board I would be amazed...even a poorly performing gold or silver mine should be experiencing a rise fundamentally in pps...supposedely all boats rise in a rising tide type of thing....bottom line though is that there are more contracts for delivery outstanding than there is physical available...something has to give...just should have already with USSIF...no reason this isn't over a market cap of $335million (about a buck a share)if you look at history of production, current production, and what the assays tell us. My opionio is that the market is much more aware of collusion and manipulation with the Hunt Brothers and now JP Morgan and won't tolerate the mining sector receiving the same treatment for long...however I've been called naive before...lol...JMHO...truly GLTA
I totally agree with you except for one factor...this is this silver market....it is unlike any other environment I have seen since the last silver craziness in 1980 and the dot com phenomenon in the late 90s...(yes I've been around and have been successfully investing since the mid'1970s)...the silver market condition is unusual to say the least (especially in considering the COMEX debacle and the questionable tactics of JP Morgan) there's enough numbers and history out for this company to attract solid speculation from the market...firecracker don't you find the lack of speculation unusual?...Especially with an anticipated positive quarterly report that is pretty well-known which is due in part to your DD and publication. Again, IMHO USSIF is the best leveraged silver mining play. I'm a fan firecracker but this one does have a lot of questions and I'm sorry to say suspicion around it...and my suspicions are in the MMs. 10,000,000 volume day would do it for sure...just amazed it hasn't happened...aren't you?
I'm surprised to get this "dear john" response from USSIF...especially from a simple rant. Firecracker I'm a fan of your DD on USSIF from other boards...much appreciated. But at this point, with an obvious semi-parabolic move underway in the price of silver, the market should be aware of the value this company represents based on past production...suppression of the pps should not be effected because USSIF chooses to report later...especially when considering USSIFs silver in the ground, past production numbers, confidence in being able to produce in the future, and current finished product should be more than ample for even the most conservative of speculative investors...ya' figure even the dreaded day traders would effect pps more than we've seen...we're not even seeing any volatility...no...for the first time I am beginning to believe that there is some serious issues with the MMs....I don't want to speculate about who or what but I'm just boggled as to why and how USSIF is not seeing a rise in PPS....I guess all ships don't rise in a rising tide....and again...I don't believe the hedge, last summer's death, or perceived delayed release of Quarterlies (which sounds like should be very good) should have this type of suppressive effect...argh....long here and have been for some time...as always all here IMHO...GLTA
Mind boggling....I really believe that USSIF represents the best silver leverage play with respect to silver mining companies....I own a bit of USSIF and quite a bit physical...it's just amazing that this company has yet to be discovered from the perspective of the sought after "little risk - great reward" potential investing equation. Silver @ $39.25 and USSIF at $0.69?.....is the market SO smart as to wait on the quarterly production report? Does the hedge, which IMHO was a great business move, suppress the pps this much? Somehow I don't think so. Even with past production history something should have happened...I wonder if I'm missing something on this one....this does smell of some kind of manipulation and at this point it could be a number of things....mind boggling...as always this is IMHO....GLTA...Long here.
Thanks NY...from NY myself...been holding USSIF now for about 10 weeks...learned alot from this board...but it was really cool to see the posts about the upcoming short gambit the chinese and JP Morgan is playing...I've been following that for quite sometime. USSIF has had some bad luck with the death last Summer and the bad feelings about some of the transactions within the company but the company PRODUCES SILVER and the value of what's in the ground and what is produced is far in excess of a .50s pps. I wonder if the perception is of a pinky 'cause this puppy should be quite a bit higher. I've heard it said that your supposed to trade pinks and not to invest in them...but this is SILVER and a company that has persistent production. Ok...so they hedged but I do believe that was a positive business move...what was it...around 10-20% over a year...so they locked in cash flow...then there was the announcement that reports from the company won't be forthcoming as often as in the past...yea...that can be scary...but it's SILVER with an operating mine in a location where there are OTHERS who are also looking to increase production...not an insinuation by any means....all in all I keep this analysis really simple and obvious...for a change I don't have to read all the charts and the montage of info (unless it's a real world rocker)...like I mentioned before the pps of USSIF currently (.52ish) makes no sense especially with the fiat price of silver at 30.60 at the time of this post...I do have faith that the market ultimately wins out which would mean that USSIF should substantially move up. Of coarse this is all in my VERY HUMBLE OPIONION. GLTA
I couldn't agree more! Do they know about the JP Morgan - Chinese BS? Ah...who cares...fiat price of USSIF makes no sense...I wonder what the price will be at EOD if Au breaks $31....by then the seller's will be selling at 0.25 less than the high...scratchin' my head at this one and don't have much hair left I must say...I do agree though with previous post in a major run up if USSIF actually breaks 0.60 but I think silver will have to be close to $32 in the present environment. As for me...I'll just sit on the 10k shares which I think was a bargain at 0.61. Really GLTA...the smart play is silver for sure and I can't find a better deal than USSIF. JMHO
I am wondering if Wins International Ltd. is actually owned by Wins (HK)International Ltd. ???
Form T Trades can be anything or anyone...it's just a NASD filing form for after hours trading. I've read on this message board that it could be MMs covering earlier sell trades in the 3s which is quite possible. It also can be the other side of the gambit. For instance, there are mutual funds whose prospectus will allow a VERY small percentage to be invested in speculation (albeit don't know of many that will allow penny stocks in their portfolio UNLESS there is major credibility to the claim that they are seeking a major exchange listing such as AMEX). Check out some of the holdings of companies like Vanguard and Fidelity especially in their precious metals and emerging market funds....some have holdings listed at .0001. I'm not saying this is the case or that there's another institutional type of play here. I am saying that 17 million shares and a quarter of a million dollars is quite a percentage of the days volume with a premium of 25% or so especially after a stunning seemingly panic drop after some very interesting posts. In any event it is NOT the norm. I like the pennies but this is weird and have to agree...I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANS or what the Life Cycle deals mean either. This can mean anything! Love to hear more ideas...especially from those who have been around GLER for awhile. I would find this whole thing intriging if I were watching from the sidelines but I do have some anxiety on this one. Got in at .019 with 150,000 and I can't settle on a play moving forward. Lots of info with a lot of hope and skepticism at the same time. GLTA
Bashing SOLAR residential contracts...hmmm...just brilliant. Drake check out another perspective from an INVESTOR...I had a post about an hour ago. If you need to make big money today you might want to try something else. Also, if you are shorting there are atleast a hundred better locations. THESE RESIDENTIAL CONTRACTS are worth tens of millions...word of mouth marketing from resident to resident...utility rebates...tax incentives...and SSOL can service this sector with still obtaining BIG CONTRACTS down the road...your statement is EXTREMELY short sighted. JMHO....GLTA
I love this type of news...small contracts means that the product is priced and able to be financed to small businesses. This is like Walmart going after the rural areas before going into the big markets. SSOL is primed to bring solar power to the little guy!!! Don't get me wrong....I REALLY LOVE them big contracts to...LOL..they're coming. With so many of these type of businesses in California and SSOL getting more proficient at helping to get financing for their clients and an extremely positive political atmosphere...wow...can't wait to hear the bashers come along saying "ah..it's just a bunch of little contracts"....if I were a salesman in Californina I'd be looking for a job with SSOL for sure. GLTA
Funny...I thought SSOL did go to 0.0149 after this announcement...be careful on the kind of "light" you shed when you post info of this type (albeit credible)...this is a pretty educated board at this point...some of us with much larger positions at much less price are aware that it would be nearly impossible for this stock to go less than .015 based on this agreement....but take in the recent politcal developments, contracts, supply agreements etc., makes you wonder what the "premium" above .015 is at this point...I would venture to say pretty close to where it sits at this point...everyone makes their own opinion of course...wonder where that "premium" above the agreed bottom price of 0.15 will be with another contract...2 more...3 more...how 'bout distribution potential...hmmm...you have a great "handle" name and come across with a presentation of authority (with credible info but spun a little strangely) but I'm wondering if this is not a nice little piece of bashing to cover shorts? Hmmmm....especially when telling us where the price will be and how much you'd buy.....ahhhhh....tell us something we don't know....
Now I do...but strong base...jmho...glta
I don't get the same read. http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/SSOL/quote
but then again it's just my opinion...GLTA
....which may be a good thing for possibly avoiding somekind of "gap and trap" at the beginning of the trading day...this is truly SOLID business news that effects both installation contracts as well as distribution of product in a market that if it were its own country would be a top 10 global economy (California)....this news is the real meat and potatoes that gives their current and future contracts validity. This is the type of news that the big boys look for when there are contracts being announced. I don't believe this news is really for the day trader but is for Long Term and institutional investors. This is great news. Don't know how it will be perceived as far as short term pps but IMHO it's only a matter of time before SSOL takes a significant step up pps...GLTA
Point well took....
Wow...this is the type of news that really interests the big boys who already know what SSOL has in the way of contracts. Want them institutional investors (which don't just show up and place an order)? They need to see where SSOL is going. This REAL news is not for those who are short term in trading...THIS IS FOR THE LARGE INVESTORS. Because SSOL in pennyland its gonna get bounced here and there. But apparantly there are biz contracts short term and patents with interest mid to long term. SSOL gives a chance to break out of penny stock thinking.
My two cents on "lend their support"....it can mean many things...my initial thought was that CSUN sees a practical and potentially profitable application of the technology to their own market. Further it could mean that through their market access (distribution) they see the ability to supply to some of them Chinese "big boys." However this would be a process to see how the biz relationship, feasibility and practicality of the endeavor goes. "Lend their support" might mean there is no "grant" of money or any specific amount. They would need to test product as well as test the market before full blown production could commence. As this relationship develops money's would be released cooperatively to meet the next step in the biz/marketing plan. If this were the case it would take a bit of time but with the address last night and SSOL set up for "innovative grants" and new contracts and in a hot sector and provides solutions to energy issues and job creation....well, I wouldn't want to be playing shorting games with SSOL :) PLEASE KNOW THIS IS ALL IN MY OWN HUMBLE OPINION DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.
I'm Showing way Way WAY oversold on my stochastics....wow hope it's right...could be an interesting PH....
MMs walk it down to get some on the lowdown ahead of tonight's address...pumping the solar sector is the obvious political pump for creating jobs, supporting innovation, green stuff, and the California situation...yea...if I were making a market for SSOL I'd be sitting on it hard. Fundamentally and technically SSOL looks good especially for a stock in the .02s...GLTA
That's a tough one. IMHO I do believe that we will see $0.10+ in a couple of weeks with a little PR and old man momentum. In six month time my gut tells me that if the new restricted shares can be sold by the company (and hopefully logically) and the involvement of the MM in the financing of the company through purchasing tranches of the new shares over a period of time, I can't imagine this wouldn't be $0.25+++ by June. IF the MMs make money in a deal like this I can't imagine them pushing the price up themselves to at least the $0.25 level. Now when considering new contracts, the effect of this patent, and tonight's state of the union address I can only think these VERY HUMBLE opinions are highly conservative. The intangible of potential "frenzied" sentiment here is WILD. If that intangible is realized ya' got to keep a tight grip on the harness. Truly this is all in my very humble opinion. GLTA
The increased shares are restricted from sale for 6 months and are part of a very public financing deal...I would usually agree with you but in this case I don't see dilution coming from sale of shares by the company at this time...IMHO...GLTA
I usually try not to get to excited with potential and try to stay real. But this company is something different. $1.00 short term I would say impossible but when considering utility companies and governments working together fisacally, the chaos of California and it's need for immediate solutions, and Goldman Sachs sector recommendations one only wonders where this can go on sentiment alone. BUT IMAGINE if Obama mentions in his State of the Union address the solar sector. It would make sense since politically he can kill two birds with one stone considering California's desperate energy situation)and would fall in line with all the pre-address rhetoric of government CREATING JOBS and supporting INNOVATION (ssol patent). I believe this would create an intangible that could effect sentinment on a LARGE scale "OVERNIGHT" that I've never seen in 25 years of investing around up and coming companies and sectors. (I can't include the dot com days since that was just plain craziness...there was no meat on them bones where SSOL has actual contracts and a financial statement that has real dollars on it.) Also, as I've seen expressed on this board, SSOL is still under the radar but is now certainly a "blip" on the big boys screens. If the game is weighing risk/reward SSOL has the lowest risk to potential reward ratio IMHO that I've ever seen. Been accumulating for about a month hold 650k shares cost averaged @ 0.007 so yes I'm long. But now I'm in for the long haul so I'm now biased and a fan rootin' for the home team. This is fun to be in.....of course this is all my own opinions. GLTA
Yep...MMs looking to get some shares...I wouldn't doubt if there are some "heavy" hitters waiting to put some large $$$...but the MMs got to have the shares to satisfy...ah the world of OTCBB...lots of regs with no one to enforce...mixed with a little panic from shareholders with low numbers....this is short lived IMO...hang on...it will be well rewarded
I totally agree....that's why I've been buyin over the last 3 weeks heavy...go SSOL...this really is a gem!!!!
I haven't as yet looked at the parameters of the new contract or rather the adjustment to the existing one but I imagine that it has to do with structuring financing with the electric company credits coupled with federal grant $$$$. In any event, this company's pitch is unbelievable..."we'll save you money on your power with state of the art tech and we will help you get the $$$ to pay for it!!! How's that for growth potential in this economic environment. I just don't see how SSOL can fail unless there is gross negligence. GLTA
Anyone want to take a stab as to why the jump to .90 and then pullback below .50 today...have no news and can't find anything on my "poor man" searches.