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ot/Loch3, .... ..... ........
I appreciate it. Really.
Not sure what to think about the NFL today.
I think we’re all ready for DNAG to put our money where their mouth is.
Well, ...perhaps that’s exactly what they ARE doing. Filet mignon, lobster, Swordfish, T-bone, Chilean sea bass, beluga caviar, spaghettini with Perigord Black Gold served with a light truffle sauce, foie gras, Burgundy, Bordeaux, Champagne, Chianti, & blah blah blah....etc. etc.
[chuckle/sigh/just joshin’] ...Their money where their mouths are, certainly.
ot/Easyman: Yep, that's the place!
'round Kernville, ...in the Sequoias.
~~small world, bro.
I'll bet you ate good that day....
ot/Easybro: .... ..... ........
I probably would have been a better friend if I had visited him in lock-up anytime afterwards, ...but I didn’t. That last handshake, before they took him away, felt like “via con Dios” ...& like, ...”okay amigo...good enough.” That cat was an old soul. I hope he found what he was looking for.
We had other “Latin” fosters as well, ...& they always brought deep-deep depth to the house. They NEVER trusted anybody but their vatos, ...until they learned the rules were on-the-level and we were straight-up about how things were done. Like a family. After that...they were the sht, man. Tight...& the more healthy force in the house. There was this one kid, I’ll call Jose, who, while we camped beside the Kern River, would fill a small plastic juice jug with pebbles & water and tie it to a rope. Then he’d call our buff & woodsy little [condensed Doberman looking] black Dachshund over...and THROW! the jug way out into the rapid water & let the current take it downriver...& Walt, th’ dog, ...would DIVE, fearlessly, into the river and swim like nothing you’d believe after it. He’d always catch it and munch down, ...then Jose would pull [reel] him in. It was a trip to watch, ...that little dog hangin’ on and digging at the water crashing into ‘im, ...& that little mini 14 year old kid laughing and shouting things in Spanish! When I first asked him WHAT are you doing? He said, “eyeem dogfeeeshing....!!”
My form of self-obligatory Japanese Garden now is a lawn tractor and a half acre of grass...lol. Or laying/raking mulch. OR, my personal favorite, chopping wood and working a small fire on a fall day over a coupl’a cold ones. Back THEN it was about a hundred by two hundred foot rectangle plot of desert sand and a straight rake. Straight lines, curved lines, circles, hot sun...& solitude....
:o)
loch3:
i don't know that frog's all that.
if that's what u gathered, ...okay.
but, with all due respect m'friend, it's not a shared opinion.
...ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOOOTBALL!!
Yeah, man!
jcryan: .... ........ .....
...don't let it tear ...you... apart, bro.
an ol'Okinawan friend used to breathe a deep refreshing breath and say,
"...the grass is green...
.......the sun is warm...."
...take what you want from that, ...if anything at all, ...& use it in the best possible health.
...i certainly wish i used it more often rather than giving into angst or anger...or tension....
i had a foster teen once who was so seeded in his cholo-way (he was jumped into east LA poortown when he was 11 years old) that he could not relate to any of his [peers] without aiming to establish control and knock them off balance, in one way or another. This cat was bright, and militant, ...although with a very quiet sense of what was right; he had a good heart...that he kept shelled. We had to keep the knife drawer locked, ...if you know what I mean. BUT by the time he left us to go to lock-up [long story] he said goodbye to us with sincere tears and a kind of certain happiness. We were friends. I taught him Japanese Garden, ...& he used it to balance-out whenever he was heading down the downward spiral. After almost a year, his new troubles were less often, although his past trouble was catching-up to him. When m’best gal & I would get dressed to go out to a concert...on rare occasions, ...he would say, "Hey ese, check you out over there looking all cholo." I’d say: No, west side rock & roll. He’d shake his head and laugh; ...he knew what he knew. This is way too long a story...so short & vague is best..
Funny that “cholo” is actually a derogatory word that, depending on its derivation, can mean half-breed, peasant, low-life, or dim-wit, ...or a disowned person. BUT is used affectionately amongst those who come up on Latin/Latin American streets. Blacks have their own similar word, ...so do Native Americans...and any other “race” of folk who were, at one time or another, defeated/seized, brought or welcomed to the US as a slave, indentured servant or low income laborer...& treated as such by the affluent & the locals. Affectionate slang, ...turning a smear word into one of knowing & friendship.
Pretty cool.
I appreciate your reply, jcryan. Don’t let the bastids get u down, bro.
off/on topic, frog:
"...but you can't fit me into any of your preconceived pigeonholes."
I don't preconceive my pigeonholes, man; ...you can't cut me out in cardboard.
& your board persona certainly is shadowy, ...as well as substantial. One does not cancel-out the other. Michael cut a shadowy figure...but he still had the wherewithal and substantiality to kill most everybody in the flick...
and tried to poke Jamie Lee in the closet.
The whole motivation thing really gets your goat? Skip it, bro. Forgetaboutit....
Some puppeteers like to operate their puppet with a hand in the back, all up close and personal, ...while others prefer to distance themselves with strings from high above on the catwalk. Both are artists worthy of mindful narrative & revelation. No sweat. Didn't mean ta bug ya. Actually I thought it was a good question. Several earnest cats & kittens on these boards might have found it easy to answer. Like I said, I'm quite prepared for disappointment.
Actually I’m not even all that thwarted. It was nearly a good conversation. & you’re far too clever, imo, to reveal much...or invest more than is academically necessary into the discussion.
So be it.
Frog.... ........ .....
[Much ado today, ...just read your post an hour ago. Pardon the delayed reply.]
>>>>This is wordy, ...so I’d suggest skipping it...unless you’re curious.
~~+~~=~~~~~~~~
?[“Such a concept baffles me.”]?
Hmm....
...Oh okay, I understand your question.
But firstly, if you assume that I restrict the information that I process. That’s certainly not true. Perhaps those who take the red and blue team view do this, but I have had an open mind all along; openly considering ideas from all who have not been primarily boring, or azzhalves and the like. Although the notion that Dr. Frudakis was on the level AND brandishing the necessary wherewithal...may have been my fundamental hurly-burly howler.
Note: By asking you to reveal something about your motivation, I was showing you a higher respect...yeah...after what I felt was enough time getting vaguely acquainted -- as acquainted as two faceless "board personas" are likely to get.
Attempting to glean a greater understanding of your piqued inquiries.
For me to have angst regarding DNAG is a natural response to an air of trust being betrayed: betrayal perhaps only as a temporary financial state or what I may find sooner or later was a poor & costly judgment call all along. I did NOT toss such a litany of coin down on any other penny issues, ...but this one was a drama that I got caught-up in. This one, those folks invested, their backs up against the wall, the idea of medicine FINALLY being taken out of the dark ages, the underdog; ...it seemed worthy of a win. The world needs a few true moral victories, ...perhaps this company took on the persona of the Rocky Balboa of this emerging sector. Early on I saw the ugly potential of BIG interest foes...and huge financial guffaws, ...opting to believe both would be overcome...in a state of grace and hard work. A romantic notion, I know. So be it.
Your impression that my inquiry was based on disregard, disregard of your inputs because of an enigmatic persona, is rather short sighted; or perhaps an intrepid avoidance technique. Answering a question with a question, that sort of thing. But all it was...was a culmination of years of interest in your style here. That’s if. Led me to seek a greater perception of your point-of-view; to glean the greater truth. Your motivation, although you question my view, IS [IMHO] material in the gathering of “Big Picture” understanding. NO, it isn’t my business, certainly. I’m still curious but I’m prepared to be disappointed. Just had to ask.
Perhaps, with all this tired night verbosity, I did not answer your question. I’m losing sight of my original aim here. Would you rather buy some investment property in a newly targeted hatchling boomtown off a cat you’ve come to know, through experience, as a straight-shooter and a mensch...or from a clear-eyed shadow figure with a good suit, a firm handshake and a charming tagline?
I don’t know. Often I think motivation can be key, Frog.
You ARE shadowy regarding your impetus here. I think you know you are. You’re not alone in that. It’s why the conspiracy theory runs rampant on these threads. Lots of different reasons for being here. I think we can agree that not all are benign. Some even want most to believe that the real shareholders are playing some kind of game. It keeps the grey areas dead in the dead-center gloamings of clashing black & white rings. & so it’s been circles upon circles going mostly nowhere. It gets boring, ...& DNA[g] doesn’t make it any easier. The fact that some of the principles that WERE prevalent are now not participating...could give one the feeling this interest is on the verge of dead,
... ... ...or on the verge of something trend-setting.
You’re here for your reasons; ...I’m here for mine. You have been probably more astute than I, ...likely risking nothing. Smart? Sure looks that way.
If I go to Vegas, ...perhaps I’ll play about 8-10 hours of late-night craps at a rowdy table. If I play the pass, the odds and the field well...and earn my fair share of black chips, ...my best gal & I will eat well, grab a couple bottles of good Riesling and spend the next day or two...in & around the romance of our room & the nearby ambience...or wandering around the strip’s oldest dives watching those seamy ol’ rounders work their favorite tables...while sipping weak gin.... [Woops, pardon my dangling participle.] My point: ...I’m not much of a gambler. Most folks would take those black chips back to the tables after a good nap...and pizz it all away on a cold deck, ...but I see new tires for my truck, or a free room...and an opportunity to hang-out in a nice place with so groovy a lady.
BUT I DID gamble...much...on DNA[g]. It looks like FUBAR now, ...however the chips, while thinner, are still out there on the pass line....
The information gleaned from a spectrum of sources, ...like pieces of a puzzle, ...are fitted together over the many years...to build towards an eventual “big picture” perspective of one enigmatic fledgling company. One company which may or may not be on the level. A subjective big picture that depends on a shaky foundation of the hearsays one tends to lend credence to. Where has it gotten us?
In your opinion, does it not matter to you what the motivations are of those panelists offering notions, innuendos, logical concepts & conjecture regarding files, PRs and all other peripheral activity? ...It’s just arbitrary puzzle pieces, fit together by the astute such as yourself, over several years, ...for sake of an interest in the sector/science?
Sheeez, ...if I had the energy I would go back and summarize this mini-treatise, ...leaving piles of clippings on the cutting-room floor, ...but I’m just gon’a post it as is...and let you sort it out if you feel like it. One thing for sure, you now know MY motivation. It’s out there.
Clarity is a boon, ...no?
What are you asking me Frog? Don't beat around the bush, man. Do you have a particular? __eom
frog:
...not even close?
hmmm...now you're just being cunning...i b'lieve, ...but probably you've succeeded at installing a ceiling on this thread.
>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>
i suppose, ... .... ...thanks for the repartee bro.
kind regards,
jb
OFFtopic...Gcbr:
Nah, ..you’re pretty right-on there, Arch. The former is what I was suggesting.
I know many good people, ...their concerns are not what new plague [disease], or gym-bag bomb, or maniacal flyer to fear & loath, ...but how to budget the coming natural gas bill and the forthcoming university tuitions with an approximate 50% across the board tax burden upon an increasing cost of living...while accepting a 30-40% wage cut...as the company they are employed with is filing bankruptcy only a few months after giving it’s officers 20% salary increases...and guaranteeing it’s biggest tomatoes improved unconditional golden parachutes for life. From the fortune 5000 BODs on up to the Senate-ary aristocracy & beyond...both of these bills [costs] are meaningless to them all. Just a chit. A shrug. Yes, I’m super-oversimplifying so that I don’t fall behind but the gist is rich with certainty. I’m just relaying what I’ve gathered by listening to the astute speak amongst themselves.
...& the “good captain” who bases decisions on earnest civic livelihood & a sacred liberty for all...is a throwback to a very distant honorable notion. I b’lieve they’re still out there...but probably stifled by their own longevity...& only making diminutive adjustments inside small circles.
I don’t know what is going down for certain regarding DNA[g] BOD. There are two opposing poles surrounding them, perhaps more, ...& the company itself is being excessively vague...which lends itself to paranoia and conspiracy theory.
If we were at around 4 cents with our original shares...or around 17 cents with our downsized allotment, ...then I would be at ease and awaiting forthcoming progress. But that ain’t the gist, ...& something’s amiss; ...my glass is 10% full, ...not 90% empty. That’s the best I can offer-up right now Arch.
Sorry about the wordiness, I know you are a man of few words. It’s an honest attempt to answer your question, ...the best I can.
Stay Gold Ol’Traveler
Off Topic.
I’m tellin’ ya, people, ...in life...the good captains, ...the good leaders of women and men...ARE the ones. Those who know or have known one...are the better for it. There doesn’t seem to be enough nowadays. NOT from the TOP down. In fact, in all too many vital situations they ARE the antithesis of good leaders. THEY are the ones sticking it to the people with abuse of all that is sacred, honest, courageous & fraternal. Something’s got to change. There’s a better way, ...ladies & gentlemen.
The bottom line IS a crutch.
I hope it doesn’t take 50 years to overcome.
Best to All
Frog: [Forgive the delayed response]
I’m not being obtuse; really.
You must admit to some ambiguity regarding your methodology here, ...no? Not even a little? ...Okay. So be it.
Just to clarify one more time – I’m slow to the uptake, yes:
...So...your vested interest in the DNA[g] threads is to be a catalyst & a defender for gleanings of truth...in regards to a public company for which you have NO other discernable, monetary or otherwise, vested interest in?
Correct?
[Man, ...& I’m ONLY an enquiring shareholder.
Don’t I now feel even lower in the food chain...lol.]
Frogdreamin’: Forgive me this one more reply. TIA
I do have a brief reply, ...then a project to tackle...& a lot on m’plate today. If you want to continue, ...it would be an honor and a privilege to pick up again this evening some time.
You said, “Put these two together.” Okay, they’re together:
1) Who do you defend yourself against...when it is typically you who initiates the jabs? [Swift & SAVAGE? What’s the point of that in this context? Really] “Chucky” walks up to me and punches me in the nose, ...to which I retort with a punch in the nose & a noogie, ...this is followed by the authorities ambling up to unearth a guilty party from which to exact revenues and cheap labor, ...to which Chucky claims: I was acting in self defense? ...Yeah, brave new world...where the assaulted is the bad guy and the “Chucky” is the victim?.... NOT that I’m claiming you’ve assaulted me, Frog. You’ve been mostly cordial, and even neighborly, with me for years. It’s appreciated, ...really.
2) I Do agree with you completely about the lack of comprehension: Yours. & your unremitting avoidance of the topic. No, that’s NOT true. I find it VERY unlikely that you are not comprehending; ...merely avoiding. As you claim, there are more vested interests that I have not considered. So then to reveal at least one of them would, in fact, assist us in reaching a greater understanding of the “means” by which you...blah blah blah....
You said, “Have I considered all the vested interests? Of course not...”
Clever response, Frog. So what, for instance, are those vested interests I may likely have overlooked that you have not? An honest response to THIS may lead us to a greater illumination regarding the “means”...blah blah blah.
So far I have found nothing you’ve said to be a difficult concept, Frog.
No...I am not, nor would I feel justified in, judging you...but you HAVE stirred my curiosity with the ways in which you tackle your truth gleaning process. No other panelist has been quite so poignant and, frankly, crafty in his witticisms and careful use of the insult...as a way of being charming. NO other “con” oriented panelist has been, well, ...not boring. & to read an “antagonist, for lack of a more accurate term” panelist on these boards without being quickly bored to yawns by the rhetoric...is a major bonus. Perhaps even a boon...to have had this opportunity. My mind remains open to your jive, man. In fact my favorite blurb from this thread is:
“Small bits of the puzzle are discovered, cleaned off, verified, validated and joined to the growing picture. Some of the real pieces come from questionable sources and the verification process is quite involved. Some of the false pieces come from authoritive sources that become questionable based on the pieces they provide. Others are dumped onto the board by the thousand but they are either counterfeit, outdated, or go to another puzzle altogether. The verification process is quite painstaking. Once one has a fair idea of what the picture is, one is quite protective of it. A great deal of work has gone into it's development. It should not be surprising that the defense of the work, against those that would obscure it, would be swift and sometimes savage.”
That’s heavy, man. It does go to show that my processes are not in the same league as yours. All that data would crash my board. Not being obtuse here, but is the word “authoritive” a form of professional lingo or a type-o? Again, this is just a vocabulary query for my education, ...not a gratuitous spelling notification, Frog.
In a nutshell: I did not wake-up yesterday thinking...perhaps I’ll bug Frog today. Nope, you sparked my interest with a morning post, ...no different than how a discussion begins in a pub with a familiar but mostly strange personality. Sometimes it goes badly, ...other times old friends are discovered in the first few minutes of an animated discussion....
I don’t get you, Frog. But I dig your rap, mostly. So it generates the ambition for greater understanding. It’s difficult to take someone seriously...if one cannot identify a cat’s motivation. You know mine. I am a shareholder. It’s really THAT simple. In an attempt to be respectful towards you, I set out to...glean a bit more truth. YOU disapprove, I suppose. So YOU choose an impasse. I can respect that, ...although I’ve always been put-off by the Brit concept of the Division Bell. I guess I can just accept what I cannot change and continue to draw my own parallels and share these boards with you amicably. But not forthright where you are concerned...because you choose to remain a shadow figure. So be it, Frog.
I hope we are not done. You’re a wordsmith, man; a real maestro of the keystroke.
Would that you were ring leader the past 4 years, ...could have gone differently...perhaps.
You and bag8ger should have at it again as well,
...now THERE is some poignant thread to be gleaned.
Sorry, I keep using your word.
It’s a good word.
JB
wrl:
[JMHO] I agree about the effect, although I'm not absolutely sure that RG and the rest are not on the cusp of something viable. Of course it doesn't look that way to the naked eye, ...so I, personally, am forced to wait & see. NOt what I would have hoped for. Fckd'up beyond all recognition at this point, ...but it sure would be somthin' if DNAG is liken to an ironclad riverboat taking round-after-flaming-round of canon fire from the Lajoiiilia ilk, ...& fighting to stay afloat under constant duress of BAAAAD financing options...& sector foes. Then that would suggest some hope. No? Pigs flying and all that, notwithstanding...& certainly THEY chose to deal with "loan sharks" & stuff the shareholders with the bill...so therein lies the fault in the hands of the present management. Hmm, ...Back to full circle....
I suppose you are right. Oh damm it all!! ...lol....
wrl:
in saying, "My only hope is that with my vanishing investment, Gabriel and company will vanish with it!"
do you mean to suggest you hope Gabriel and company would leave DNAP...clearing way for yet another management team, ...or that
you wish DNA[g] would vanish altogether?
& if the latter, ...what hopeful point would there be in that scenario? THAT would be the most futile gesture possible, imo.
tia
I suppose if "yeah...we're done", I won't reply...although I do have a reply, Frog.
G'nite
post some good DD virgil, ...please. pretty please.
Frog. You said, and I paraphrase, your aim here is to attempt to glean truths. & so many of your posts are opened with intellectual jabs at other folks posts, ...so I put-two-and-two-together. You never put-two-and-two-together? You never postulate, Frog? I don’t think what I said was nonsense. Not really. It comes down to that “means & ends” design...don’it?
I’m a shareholder, ...that’s my means.
I’ve not judged you, man. I asked you a simple question....
& baited you a little bit. NO more, no less.
You said, “Have I considered all the vested interests? Of course not, neither am I conceited enough to suggest that I have.” ~~then why did you laugh after suggesting, all portentously, that I am unaware? What did that imply? That you know something I don’t know? So you just spent how many minutes contradicting yourself, in order to stem the tide? What’s the point of that?
Are we done yet? I don’t know, Frog. Are we?
yes it is true, frog.
anybody else sharing your skull? what, you hearing voices, man?
even at their most synergistic, a pair of people cannot make language, even with the awesome benefit of eye contact, overcome the barrier of self. It’s a bit of a paradox, man, thus the ever-rendering search for Nirvana/Creation/Enlightenment/God.
So you find you glean your most viable truths by jabbing at cats on the DNAG board?
Commercial what? I don’t believe I alluded towards commercial motive in regards to you. That’s somebody else. I have not considered all the possible vested interests? So you are hinting that you have considered them all? That you are more astute & qualified? That you DO perhaps even know them? That by my not being in the know, I am not worthy of the loop? That you’re in the loop? Thereby in the know? Thereby involved? ...& therefore biased?
I’m not being cynical, Frog. I’m a shareholder here. I have a real good reason to be here.
& I have ONLY my words, ...not THE word...by a chasm’s stretch of the meaning.
Do you think YOU are the word? You tend to jab as though you ARE, ...imo.
better DD, ann? You got any? tia__eom
For starters, Frog:
[imo] It’s all bias; everything. You’re alone in there, man. Yeah, pouncing, that’s what I mean. Battle for sake of the battle, ...with no monetary interest at risk here. If you are not invested here, why are you so entrenched? Like a shiny fiend licking at both sides, ...encouraging the battle for sake of the blood? [No, ...not like that. I’m going to leave it in, though, because I dig the sentence -- but disregard it for sake of the discussion.]
Quest for understanding, blah0-blah1-blah2...I get it. Right. [Perhaps the shiny fiend analogy was closer to the point than I thought, perhaps not. Probably not.] I find it difficult to believe much valid information has been provided or extracted from these boards. Perhaps a little. The filings are the only information, and they are vague by design in regards to ALL public companies. The law requires it. These boards do not EVER take into account what goes on daily between the walls of DNAprint. It’s all supposition, ...& the bias IZ individual. Those who have money invested being the most logical ones to be interested, ...and those thinking of investing being the others. The traders need not speak unless they are playing. Their charts and their skills with the filings and the phone are all they need to make the bucks.
You said, “What gives you the capacity and the authority to create your own personal assumptions regarding others and then requiring them to answer questions based on those assumptions?” ~~Ask yourself the same question, Frog. It all boils down to THAT bias issue. It’s all personal assumptions, questions & grey-areas...& hope or destruction...& all the little shades in between...that keep it grey....
How much do you have risked in this issue? How much are you thinking of risking? Or is it just the debate? Not that there are any requirements. It’s just common sense to have a vested interest in something one spends years plugging away at.
The ends are yours to choose, Frog. As are mine...in the end.
I don't know, Frog...
I don't produce and egg...or estrogen, ...but I have swooned it around a room every now and again with a new song.... Nothing like the warmth of a room freshly adorned with the scent of blooming estrogen....
Are you calling me a chick, ...Frog?
That would make my bride a lesbian. Ohhh, lesbian love, ...cool.
So you think we've got the makings of a cat fight, do ya?
I didn't see an answer to my ONE query, earlier today? Not worthy? Not candy coated with enough sucrose & artificial flavored civility to earn a reply on this board?
Takes one to know one, Frogdreamin'. No?
"Only...a bully looking for a fight would have made such a statement."
...chewing gum in class? tisk, tisk
so what's your point Frog/,
...to what ends is your means justifiable?
...is it JUST the debate?
if so, then i suppose i can dig that.
is it?
easyman: .... ........ .....
you're talkin' "mole"?
hmmm....
one of the first posts i ever entered on the rb board regarding the "new" management...spoke, in jest, of strange bedfellows & such, ..."based" on previous relationships.
i can't access that far back anymore...so i can't really go back and walk it up for your perusal.
i hope u are wrong; ...or right (& with logical alternatives for any remaining good guys.)
...what a bogus drift of wood this is become,
to have such viable [newz] seeds...& no rich soil in which to plant it.
i wonder if Dr. Frudakis is lost in the shuffle as well. i wonder if it's only semantics that the larger WILL swallow the lesser [which could have been a giant] for sake of the big steel belly.
I’ve grown tired of the whole matter, frankly.
The Brits & the Irish have a word that means “to throw one’s hands up”...or something to that degree: The word is “Fck-all”.
Well I’m just about there, man.
Stay gold brotha.
gut check: What is THIS saying to all DNA[g] shareholders??
From RBDNAG morocity board:
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rivet
11 Oct 2005, 08:44 PM EDT
Msg. 346376 of 346396
(This msg. is a reply to 346350 by thehopeukindle.)
Jump to msg. #
thehope after speaking with Travis the Twit from lahoya I sold flat. Those clowns are hell bent on diluting the shzz out of this with reckless abandon. The dulution last week killed the rally. If you guys want this to rally you'll have to get their attention in mass. 2 or 3 guys calling them aren't going to do it. Sometimes you have to change directions in the market and this is one of those times. The chart says this is way oversold. But with people like travis making decisions on the dilution rate it doesn't stand a chance. Lahoya is another Cornnell. DNAG got in bed with the devil and it may just take them down.
rivet
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Does this say that NOMATTER how pleased one may be with DNAP progress, pipeline and prospectus, there is NADA that will be positive around here until the dilution is curbed? That THIS issue IS effectively on the endangered species list UNLESS all of OUR banter on these boards is taken to a next level? Are there enough voices here on these boards to convince the powers that be @ LaHoya to quit harpooning this whale...until it’s upside-down in a salty pool of it’s own blood; while we savvy shareholders row our little dinghies in circles around it’s dying mass...in solemn boat drinks & celebration of fond mocking memories of
...the little train who could have??
Pardon my dangling participle....
& WHY does DNAG NOT turn to it’s shareholders for assistance? WHY the perpetually cold shoulder? “WHY” is the biggest fcking number ‘round these parts anymore!! It’s like.... It’s like those OUTSIDE the NUTHOUSE in this fine brave new world of ours...are the ONLY ones NOT in the know. LIKE all common sense HAS gone out the window like a well-chewed tooth-pick.... Like the doors of Fletcher’s Memorial Home have been bolted closed...and ALL OF US are LOCKED IN with the madmen, the bull-goose loonies...& their ratcheted rigged deck dealing nurses?
Well I WANT OUT, dammmit!
...haaaaav a nice daayy....
[no, the wires haven’t snapped -- well, perhaps a thread or two. I just sometimes wander-in-drifting-dusk-purple-images & ponder/wonder...where the human outrage has gone...& with it the backbone of the American people? The GOOD dawgone people...with their sleeves rolled-up, sweat on their brow, hearts beating time...and their eyes on the horizon....
We're FIGHTING each other? Well that's a battle NONE of us can win. What's the REAL issue? ....Peace, man.]
Yadda-yadda... I know. The point: Perhaps a few calls to the cats who are taking this little piggy down with impunity....
Frogdreamin’:
Upon arriving home after the day job, I plugged into the OTHER board...to find something of real merit waiting therein. I dug the off-topic discussion regarding your “criticism vs. solution” analogy.
I’m likely a better man for having read it; likely a better soul for having followed your point during the course of the debate. It should be a key national topic of study.
Prosa in versi!
Bag8ger: Perhaps your right, sir. But they don’t much differ from the corporate status quo today. & you, yourself, have clearly shown that they are not unreasonably compensated for their positions. The issue, imho, is the deplorable way in which long-term shareholders have been ridden hard and put away wet...while penny whores have been given the golden key to the chocolate factory. The message is loud and clear....
As an aside: Ulterior motive or not, I believe that Rivet [on the other board] may have suggested a logical course of action. I wonder how many calls it WOULD take, ...if any at all will suffice. I’m just a simple bloke, but it seems like solid logic to me. 17 cents would be a start.
Stay Gold....
I’m glad you dug the anecdote, ustacud. It was sent to me by a 60 year old workaholic who has had very little time away from the office for his wife & kids/grandkids...accept for their yearly vacation in the country. Hindsight is 20/20 to him.... Although I have spent every possible moment with my wife and sons, ...I find that my oldest now has less and less time to spend with me...chuckle/sigh. Life is a series of adjustments followed by a series of adjustments, ...isn’t it?
~~lol~~
I’d gladly crack the caps on a couple long necks with ya, ...although I don’t anticipate reaching THAT [DNAP riches] criteria any longer.
Be Well,
JB
ot/One more, then I’m out’a here:
Sometimes I question the value of my day. Second guessing the way I’ve spent the past decade and a half. But on rare occasions, when I am feeling that spark of shining optimism that comes with sitting in the truck after the sweat of an afternoon of labor on a project, or after a coupl’a jin & tonics in the company of m’fine lady, ...or a few chilled steins with a pal at the local pub, ...or even after a good long hike beside moving water with m'sons, I can clearly see a grand value in the simpler things in life...that I know I have not overlooked...while so many other so-called successful people certainly Do....
~~+~~=anecdote
A boat docked in a tiny Mexican village. An American tourist complimented the Mexican fisherman on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took him to catch them.
"Not very long," answered the Mexican.
"But then, why didn't you stay out longer and catch more?" asked the American.
The Mexican explained that his small catch was sufficient to meet his needs and those of his family.
The American asked, "But what do you do with the rest of your time?"
"I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, and take a siesta with my wife. In the evenings, I go into the village to see my friends, play the guitar, and sing a few songs... I have a full life amigo."
The American interrupted, "I have an MBA from Harvard, and I can help you! You should start by fishing longer every day. You can then sell the extra fish you catch. With the extra revenue,
...you can buy a bigger boat."
"And after that?" asked the Mexican.
"With the extra money the larger boat will bring, you can buy a second one and a third one and so on until you have an entire fleet of trawlers. Instead of selling your fish to a middle
man, you can then negotiate directly with the processing plants and maybe even open your own plant. You can then leave this little village and move to Mexico City, Los Angeles, or even New
York City! From there you can direct your huge new enterprise."
"How long would that take?" asked the Mexican.
"Twenty, perhaps twenty-five years," replied the American.
"And after that?"
"Afterwards? Well my Friend, That's when it gets really interesting," answered the American, laughing. "When your business gets really big, you can start selling stocks and make millions!"
"Millions? Really? And after that?" said the Mexican.
"After that you'll be able to retire, ...live in a tiny village near the coast, sleep late, play with your grandchildren, catch a few fish, take a siesta with your wife and spend your evenings
doing what you like...and enjoying your friends."
[[Know where you're going in life, m’friends,
...you may already be there.]]
that's what we figured, Bag.
my "y" key is on-again off-again as well.
with all that's going down in the world toda, ...the "y"s are under alot of pressure...
too man questions, ...so man reasons for doubt....
the FUD-spin and the all too real realities of man & nature are liken to a black rhapsod brushed, with will-spattered strokes, over the gra-blue hope of a familiar Norman Rockwell depiction....
package check: ...dinghy’s just fine, ...yep.
w0w, Arch, the Pharmacogenomics fit has hit the shan over there...in the land of the rising son & setting moon; ...goin’ off like gang-busters in a saudi sandstorm...with guns a’blazin’ and the sisters of mercy singin’ deep southern baptist gospel songs that’d make white-bread methodist hymnals sound a lot like the monotone mumblings of my 7th grade advanced algebra teacher...&, yet, WHERE’s our benefactor, the good Dr. Frudakis & his wry posse symposium in the midst of all of this?
right there in the thick of it, but in a super-secret albeit viable fashion, I HOPE.
now the long shareholders [diehard proponents] need only wait for the options package that they have lined up for us...as the value of our investments begin to embody promise...& the grandiose articulations of the good doc begin to take form??
cool
eAsyman: .... ........ .....
Hmm.... What does that say about the past three-four years of rb posting? Spooky ha?
The land of nod. It’s as if Dean Koontz himself developed the plot & started laying down the tracks of the book.... But THEN some twisted fck like John Saul knocked him in the back of the head with a giant steel spiked dildo (...or something else that whack, Saul, might use) & then took over the story...so that he could finish it with a really grave and sinister ending that serves no hopeful purpose...where the friends all DO get beheaded in a grisly fashion and then find that the afterlife is all about being slowly beheaded and eaten with butter pecan ice cream by lamenting giants with really bad gingivitis & butter pecan breath...for eternity....
I had a dream this morning about this fantastic, politically charged, ...hat. It was vivid...and I was taking orders for it while developing it. Remarkable hat. Then, of course, I woke-up and the details are skewed and clouded over, ...as is the case with dreamscape reality, ...but I think that hat would sell millions...if I had even one iota as to how one develops a hat and puts it into production...lol.
Someone once wrote of a Brave New World.
I don’t think its “Brave”. & I certainly DO see the irony of that.
JJ: Posts like this are poignant testimonials.__eom
Howz it goin' eAzyman?!
Right back at ya Chrisbaskett...
;o)
Best Regards,
Charlie Bucket & Grampa Jo
...Come on 70½¢!
geob:
okay, ...i've got an open mind about all of this. i'm just not prepared, at this time, ...to re-butter my toast.
geob: ... ........ .....
What strikes ME as odd...is the way the pps moves in tenths of pennies...just as poorly on news as it did prior to the RS. To some extent that would mean that it moves in hundredths equivalents. It spiraled downwards-down in whole pennies like a cross country runner with hot date waiting, yet today’s volume does not seem to be vigorous enough to cause a several cent ascent...as a sign of promise?? We are looking for a .70 base before many of us can begin to grin again in regards to this issue, ...and the market will only hiccup it’s response to DNA[g] interest? Is there an in-house reason to want to keep themselves down in the count? Just a question. Why the tenth of a penny movement @ this juncture, ...when, best I can remember in this hazy state, claims by the big tomatoes on the vine were that a RS would be beneficial to the SHAREHOLDERS [not just loan-sharks]?
[mirror trades? heavy dumps at precisely the right times...by precisely the right sharks? invalid [naked] shares [that only exist for the affluent] being unloaded into the mix with more verve than pipelines are being built? not enough of the [float] being moved; ...way too much supply for the demand?]
I know, I know...financing is EVERYTHING to the company AND the shareholders future returns. Groovy.
Shakespeare could not have written this more tragic to this point. Our happenin’ pal Chrisbaskett thinks I’m wining? Wining? Yeah, right. Nothing here but earnest interest...in the earnest whereabouts of REAL currency. Folks have gotten so used to having 50% of their earnings fleeced from them and used in "shudder to think" ways...that many several thousand is just a drop in the pan?
...Oh, that's rich....
I should just punch my clients in the nose, take their wallets and purses, ...and...just CLAIM that I’ve fulfilled my end of the agreement. Then I, too, could call myself one of the mighty affluent
...& go on vacation.
My fault, certainly. No question. But how I AM at fault...gives me an itchy feeling; ...like a man on a fuzzy tree....
But you make it all better...with your posts. Thanks man.
Go DNAprint genomics!