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History shows that in an atmosphere of (subjective) suppression run amuck, all humor, all creativity, all free-flow of ideas are oppressed by the weight of the status quo. You, sir, may feel like YOU can joke (& YET even you feel the necessity to make the disclaimer of “deletion” in the small print, to save face.) All others will much more likely be hesitant to share casual banter and the like. What does that say about the state of YOUR board? It says that the status quo now in attendance is a mighty oppressor, which delegates the flow of ideas, but one which grants YOU, the dubious enforcer, certain disclaimer privileges…not available to the masses. But this is what IHUB/DNAG has become [InMyHumbleOpinion] …& it appears a few prefer it thisa way. So be it. Such is the present paradigm.
Go DNAG ! …Make one tangible & pro-investor share value item happen in 2007.
Please do shake-up market interest: I, for one, can use the positive numbers.
[Delete, Rub Out, Obliterate, Censor]
[OT] Here’s one for the TOS machine:
Censorship has followed the free expressions of men and women like a shadow through history. In ancient societies, such as those of Israel or China, censorship was considered a legitimate instrument for regulating the moral and political life of the population. In China, the first censorship law was introduced in 300 AD. The origin of the term censor in English can be traced to the office of censor established in Rome in 443 BC. In Rome, as in the ancient Greek communities, the ideal of good governance included shaping the character of the people. Hence censorship would have been regarded as an honourable task. The most famous case of censorship in ancient times is that of Socrates, sentenced to drink poison in 399 BC for his corruption of youth and his acknowledgement of unorthodox divinities. But it is fair to assume that Socrates was not the first person to be severely punished for violating the moral and political code of his time.
This ancient view of censorship, [as a benevolent public service in the best interest of the people,] is still upheld by countries such as China, as it was advocated by the rulers of the Soviet Union (USSR), responsible for the longest lasting and most extensive censorship of the 20th Century.
http://www.beaconforfreedom.org/about_project/history.html
i don't get your question, rveach. _eom
bag8ger: Thanks for your candor, ...as you are one of the waiting undone of which I speak. I know you are still strong-long, & that’s just groovy. I'm here as well. I wish nothing less than to see DNAG triumph over adversity. But the question still remains whether or not they have been successful all along doing just exactly what they set out to do: milk the penny market marks for all it’s worth and accomplish little else. If there is no truth to this premise, then good, let the pigeons fly, I couldn't be happier, Go DNAG, & still we wait.
~~” I see no accumulation of wealth going on.”~~
Oh, I don’t know, bag8ger, the cost of housing alone in Sarasota suggests a pretty well-to-do income. I don’t see them taking it on the chin, sir. But that’s just my honest opinion.
I am not going on perceptions, preciouslife1, I have years (YEARS) of shareholdership in a relative vacuum. THAT alone buys me an opinion on this board. I don't know you or any of your aliases, so I don't know what your actual proximity to DNAPrint Genomics is. Therefore your opinion is debatable. You are moderator here [but not by my vote] so you have your opinion, & it is considered golden in the eyes of the moderator; & I have mine, which is considered meaningful by myself alone. & that’s fine by me. DNAG has much to prove. & so we wait.
preciouslife1: [IMHO] That’s all neither here nor there. I've been following DNAG since the beginning; don't tell me the principles are not benefiting by the existence of DNAP on the penny market. I have every right to be ready and willing to see DNAG yield enough profit to benefit the shareholder. No matter how you spin it here on this board. It doesn't make me an antagonist herein, ...merely a shareholder.
rveach: [JMHO] & you call it what you WILL. I can almost guess, down to the person, who will call it what, …heh-heh…. But I have every right, based in reality, to this opinion. & it’s nothing new, so do yourself a favor and skip it if you’re in a hurry.
It’s very easy to have a “dislike” of DNAP[G], ESPECIALLY if one has been around for most of the process that has lead us to this point in time. I have a genuine, & well-based, love-hate relationship with DNAG. Why, you ask? Well, because my investment is shite at this point. Money has been tossed into a black hole, AT THIS POINT. Granted, there are “words” and “actions” evidently proactive & serving a plan to become solvent and yielding a profit. However, plans, which look good in the prospectus, year after year, begin to lose ground in the eyes of an earnest investor after several years. Now if my investment was still somewhere near the original purchase price…or a few percentage points north or south of it, then I’d be patiently waiting (not that I’m not still patiently waiting in the here & now), but don’t try and tell me that I have no basis for any skepticism after all that our shares have been put through, …& with the apparent impunity of market machinations.
The principals have not suffered the losses that the early shareholders have. They are in the black & rubbing elbows with the finest local bourgeoisie. The principles kindly provided “trade” opportunities to the savvy, & to themselves, & their financiers, but they let the bottom fall out of their open market support. The ONLY party to be hacked-off at the knees by DNAG activity this past several years has been the penny market [long] investor/sucker. MOST everyone else (principles, traders, financiers, …you pick) have been in the fabled catbird seat. You know who you are…out there, I’m talking about you: You cats who’ve been here for the duration, with your investment torn to shreds, …and still remaining on the bandwagon, you know I’m not far from the truth (shhhhhh, …you can keep it on the down low, I understand ;o), you’ve been had up to this point in time. Does this make me a basher? Of course not, not to anyone with a lick of sense [which may be asking an awful lot on these boards, frankly] who's been around the block a few times with DNAP[G].
It only stands to reason that one who invests in a company intends to see a "fair" percentage of growth. If, eventually, it happens, then fine. But methinks there could have been a way to stay the course and keep the investor out of the [hammered] losers bracket…via other forms of a more worthy use of finance + product + marketing, yada-yada. They opted, instead, to let the earnest shareholder, the sucker born every day, the easy money, the cannon fodder, shoulder the stone. Which, in truth, happened to be good business for the principles. Kept them in the game. The company is still operating … because we, the earnest shareholder, took it on the chin for the team. You can argue or scream “basher” until you’re blue in the face, but the timeline is concrete. My shares are concrete and at the bottom of an oubliette where the sun only shines at high noon, …awaiting the culmination of all this; one way or the other. I still hope the work is being done in earnest. I still like much of what I see on paper with regards to intentions. But, & this is a big but, we’re invested in a money pit until somebody down there in Sarasota can actually CLOSE a deal. I’m fine with a very diminutive growth piece of a success story heading well into the black. When to begin, 2010? Okay, see you in 2010.
{JMHO} Here’s one fer the bowdlerizer to revise
[from somehow the relegated less-educated gallery…chuckle]:
What am I looking for on this board? Less soap opera; …increased trader banter. Traders present means sails unfurling; means flags/interest = #s + potential. …inter-forum-squabbling means boredom: boredom has become the board moniker; u-g-l-y spells boredom. it don’t mater to me who relegates th’ message board & to what state o $$ misinformation she be ruddered, that’s for you regular blokes to benefit from; …if you need-to hang wita’riser to the topper-most o the coppermost & faller to the yada-yada-&-the-blah-blah-bla on creative use of a moot-handled candelabra, then go fer it Baba Ghanoush.
Tiller be tilled.
Nah…, jus ribbin ye. My post means nada. It’s not necessarily off topic though, as I rest my to laurel or not to laurel in a steady holding pattern as per the notion. Looking on up a ways. These are ambiguous DNAG forum days, to say the least. The bulk of the panel has the floor anyway, so have at it however you see fit…indeed. The bulk of the panel feels what about multi-aliases? Well, good luck with that: Hope you find the right #s herein.
What "is" borderline inappropriate use o wherewithal is essentially what it most looks like: inappropriate. & lately, I’ve been noticing some…perty underhanded [-looking] use of authority/persona banging off pinball machine bumpers, sounding bells, flashing lights.
Don’t know ‘bout u & u, but my ol’ Oirish mate cries tears fer ye @ the local pub: …
It’s nighttime there.
Hey, I’m just reading the threads.
[JMHO] Has anyone else NOTICED the implausible crew that has risen to the lofty heights of DD decorum & righteousness on this board? & have you considered the past umpteen years? hehehehe…lol. Does this NOT strike you as comical?
Oh well, suppose it’s just me.
Go DNAG; …he-he-heee….
happy labor day, bag8ger. _eom
P1:gracias._eom
Preciouslife1: just a thought…
you keep calling stockboy “Stocky,” however stockhlder101 has been called “Stocky” for years. it has become confusing, but you’re the pit boss around here so do whatever you want to, certainly.
stocky: what does any o that have to do with my post _eom
Don’t they call that testing the waters, g8g?
& aren’t the waters tested on reasonable assumption?
(…of a base & trend? Or some such lingo?)
That is at least something, perhaps.
JMHO
worth every cent
Stocky said: “I think Personalized med is necessary!”
~~ ~~
That’s the first thing I’ve heard you say all year;
However, it’s also the first investor notion I ever had regarding this sector.
Therefore, really, you have said nothing to me as a vestorhub free visitor.
JMHo
bag8ger: [off topic alert] You've got mail_eom
bag8ger: I concur.
woof!
cb: "Tide, perhaps DNAG could sell it to police depts who would swab fire hydrants and then issue citations!"
Why not? What the heck, Chris, just sell *something in mass quantities, yep: Pay off erosive debts, collect revenues galore, yeah-yeah, and trickle some down to the earnest shareholders from yesteryear and today.
Just get on with it, already, ...or give up the stall.
I'm as ready as you are to hear: The DNAGs are in the gates!
Hey, really, why not, what's the business of this business anyway? A festival item that can generate semi-world-class revenues in the interim will/would only add to the company strongbox.
nay?
crisbaskett__lmao/bmhatm
cb: Doggie DNAPrint(R)
oh cool, the pet rock
[that did really well]
nothin like a festival item
to rake in a li'l bonus revenue
it's about dawgone time!!
Cheers
chiggah: ~~"as someone is making an effort to clean this place up."~~
hmm...all due respect, that's, perhaps, a reach; ambiguous surroundings abound within...methinks. Careful who you put your faith in (JMHO) to straighten house; hijinx. I mean, I am into civil discourse as much as the next guy, but a ten sided dice offers ten different incidences; not ONE. Not too sure the referees are 100% on the level. The vote is still out on that'n, so to speak. But it’s just one opinion ~~ based on what has & has not been tenable herein & therein. Cheers!
~~"As far as the Christian lady in Georgia, you can just leave her out of this. She is more than capable of speaking for herself and does not need you putting her into the middle of something she would rather avoid. She is one of the most cherished voices on this board and I have never had anything but the greatest of respect for her. You do her a great disservice by pitting her against me in this forum without her knowledge or consent. She deserves much better than that and don't you dare ever forget it."~~
w0w!! ...An example of issue skirting genius; whizzed right by the core of the notion like a pea gravel shot from a wrist rocket.
w0w, Gold Medal
Oh-oh say, can you see…
u guys, jeez.
Questions = Wish
Canned replies, if any = Sh*t
…see which hand fills up first.
(Regs both require & allow for caginess of word-use at the common level; ...deck is rigged gents, & most uf us are already anteed-up, cost o' poker just keeps going higher & higher.)
~~bully for trying, …but you might as well just drink and check your triggers. Investment is not a word we use ‘round these parts. [JMHarrumphO, hardy-har-har]
Afternoon, Bag8ger:
Well, sir, I hope it's at least a pleasant memory. [lol]
I'd be willing to bet it is.
All the Best,
:)
fsail52: ...something heady 'bout that setting, yessiree. But don’t fall into sh*t river, pal. [lol] Personally I always preferred Okinawa for it’s splendor & humble dignity and colorful jellyfish tides and underwater caves. But San Miguel and a cheap-cheap bar tab had it’s plusses. Oh, the long ago days. Ya know what? Don’t’ miss ‘em, not for a minute. They were then, this is now. [heheh…]
don’t loooose your heads boyz
Do something good, DNAprint Genomics. Come-on, youuuu cannnn dooo it….
Stocky: (shhhhhhhhhhh……..)
Leave me alone, you, I don’t dance with w.h.o.r.e.s. [lol]
(Unless she’s a pretty Filipino, whispering warm Tagalog in my ear, and it’s her only means of self-reliance.)
“…leap of faith on the part of Dutchess.”
That’s a key phrase here [I imagine], as there is little arguing that Dutchess operates in a void of faith, a vacuum of pure incentive pragmatics and bean-counter logic (a black hole thus far). So why the…“leap?” Hmm….
Fascinating incident.
actually didn’t give it much thought at all, Frogger;
just splashed the pot with my call and & let it ride. it
was likely received the way everything is received: …
with annoyance and an air of misguided pride. hey look,
if Stocky rages three months ago when the bottom drop-out,
but then raves this month, that’s kosher and it’s pip-pip and
all fast track at the races, but if the cost of ante goes up in
this idle table stakes play ~ the wild cards removed from the
deck ~ & it comes down to straight-up five card stud, then those
with shades on bolt for the head to read their programs and write
bold-lettered & fruitless quaff & scripture on the pothouse walls.
i have never even once dug your way, Frog; you know it too.
…you like it too much when another crawls & you aim to see
them stew…, & u glide away when they got ya cornered, …live
to start again another day; but you ain’t even been cornered lately
...nothing would make me happier than to see one gifted & well-read
sort make a clean mockery of your existence herein, sport. however, u
appear to own the casino floor. No, there doesn’t look to be even one
limping soul @ ihub-bub with gravel enough to make spicy frog legs
stew outa you, …so swagger all you wana, brudah, it’s yo flo to hoe.
there’s nothing more twisted than frogs procreating in a lakeside pile of
ooze, so let’s count our blessings we have only the one herein & not a few
p.s. well...looks like johnney's got a gun anyway. not too shabby.
well, there's my point illustrated. thanx. see u on the unavoidable flipside. cheers.
chigg: all due respect to the masses at large, ...
~~~~"Seems like you are having a moment slinging your spit and having a tantrum."~~~~
Agree with his diatribe or not, that is certainly NOT what those three posts did. It’s far more likely it’s what you are doing in your retort. See this is the problem with these boards: the simplest common denominator is the dominator and any actual discussion is muffled by ordinary smash-mouth discourse. Now anybody who’s been round these parts long enough knows that the frog takes pleasure in standing at the plate and fielding pitches…while tossing a bit of his own junk from the mound from time-to-time himself, but whether or not his posting history is liken to anybody else’s (as with a paid basher scenario) is still unproven. In my opinion, he is a renegade individualist from the earliest proponents of this issue. & that is his right.
I wouldn’t piss on frog if he were on fire, unless he was in my boat or I was in his, but those three posts were coherent, well dumbed-down for the masses ~~ even I could grasp the whole of it, and clearly making a point of material logic over mind's eye. The only viable responses to those three posts would best come in equally coherent manifestations of erudite contrary thinking based on available historical documentation from the science and the company prospectus. Really, man, think about it: In those three posts, froggy-froggy-froggy has opened up a double door to a grand ballroom of point-counterpoint argument. You have every opportunity to present your analysis while making a mockery of his, if it’s applicable. Those who would have the cajones need only step up to the plate and swing away. For sake of argument, I’m not the guy to attempt it; the content is out of my league, I’ve been a hopeful idiot, but anybody who wants to sling poop should first ask themselves this: What is my aim? Am I here to have a say for sake of merely spewing rash-etudes and crude-illations in a typically rash & crude forum? Or am I here to discuss my investment in a manor to which best suits my projected ends?
Whether or not DNAG remains on to something viable is yours to reveal (if you are so inclined) & dnaPrint’s responsibility to prove in the form of meaningful stock returns in the nearest possible future; given all that needs to be gotten done before any ship may sail. It is really that simple, isn’t it?
Frog actually has ~~ just take a moment and consider it to your own advantage ~~ opened up a viable forum for discussion wherein YOU can take him down a peg or two. Very few good discussions have actually existed on these P&D forums where DNAG is concerned. It wouldn’t suck, would it? Finally, an antagonist to the company processes has begun to pass the talking feather: & yet, I see not one taker. If I were savvy enough, I would jump on it. However, I am just a poet and a mediocre investor down on his luck with regards to DNAG. I held though, so what’s done is done. Nobody here wants DNAPRINT GENOMICS to succeed in creating revenues more than I do. Who here, besides the one-liner-maligners with a keyboard and far too much time on their hands, has the gravy to go-one-on one with the biggest pain in the azz opponent to DNAG past & current events…to ever hop from one lilly pad to the next? If no one, then what’s EVER been the point?
Kind Regards,
bag8ger: Sill 'long' on DNAP.
Hope your 4th of July was affecting.
You've got mail.
Cheers,
JB
retro; sequel (culmination):
To be clear, this is my final response to u,
retro, no matter what tack you take in retort;
if applicable. Good luck to ya.
It serves no practical point mincing words.
Regarding your most recent query:
So what’s your point?
[Rhetorical only, not actually fascinated.]
That things are ambiguous?
[Again, allegorically.]
Such is the rub…for 5 years or so. Proves nada.
Processes, politics, convertible loan-sharking, etc.,
suggests plenty, …provides fodder for chatbox
nonsense. I’m done backing up the truck,
now just parked and bag-lunching it.
Regarding your first unsolicited…hmm…pleasantry:
[[ Just because you don’t understand the tone of
my post, retro, …it doesn’t paint me as the scoundrel.
But you’re entitled to ur “honest” opinion; so have at it. ]]
Some of these people have been hashing this issue out for a long-long time.
[JMHeptameterO]
oof ..... ye got me
Bag8ger … I can listen as well as the next guy … &, aware of the passage of time, stand mindful of the processes … but there are ways of doing things & there are ways of doing things … & things have been done, in the midst no doubt of the malignancies of market, in ways that give a guy an itchy feeling … Not my intention to drop cherry bombs in the head during recess … In the words of Louie Anderson, “I want beets!” …There are ways. & these folks of means were not above discounting the early investors as mere bb traders, while Doc Frudakis spoke to them as if they were souls & made mention of apt retention. You, sir, are an earnest man, I have not one doubt about that. It doesn’t prove anything with regard to the BOD of said investment. Was I a trader or an investor? An investor! But if I just happen upon DNAP now, I’ll be in the authentic catbird seat, won’t I? Far more so than 5 years ago when it seemed to matter. My goal was to hold viable shares, from the grass roots level, in an issue of importance. Importance, which looked to be on the cusp of probably the most vital medical paradigm. On a hunch that Doctor Frudakis was/is an earnest man, my 20K purchased me this board & your fair-minded consideration. & not much else but the patience of a sea turtle 8 miles out from the Galapagos & heading south by southeast … around the horn … & up to the Gulf of Mexico coastline to see if I can find the light of day shining brightly on this issue. I think they kowtowed to the trader because they have been traders as a means to an end. Whether or not a group of traders working for a larger group of traders took them down is not as much of an interest to me as whether or not ethical minds could have prevailed. So if there is even a hint of truth in this then there was a gambit of a sort, & that is not how your good doctor presented it. So given the benefit of the doubt: okay, good man; but how many good people are fodder to the take down so that one good man can rise?
I’ve read your posts for years &, unlike the frogger et al., I understand your vehemence.
[JMHO]
[FWIW] to DNAP (longleaden) pro or con alike:
I intellectually withdraw my last two posts; no doubt
a complete waste of time. Sorry for the interruption.
thesciguy:
sorry, pal, luck went out the window with the last (unlikely) reverse split & it's subsequent drain back to near nada.
there's not a one of you who holds any water with me; ...not if conjecturing about this elusive also-ran on the verge of whatever, with the potential to break new ground on new ground potential’s via this-or-that-or-some-other-thing when & if the planets align and the financing can be manipulated in just the precise way that only harms the outlook for those who have stuck it out the longest haul, while offering a few plusses and minuses for those flippant enough or bull’s-eyed enough to plop a penny-fountain pebble into the feed-trough on just the right occasion, is your idea of earnest conduct. No matter how well DNAP does in 2010 or thereabouts, they have pissed where they eat…& there is no erasing that. If & when this thing takes-off, I won’t be there to cheer, merely to exact my just pittance. & I know with the structuring of shares, this is probably the way it had to go down (down...heheh) given the self-serving & hyper-dependant nature of the project-science-fair-spendthrift racket.
So be it. University certified big pigs & little pigs & midland pigs all jostling to fleece the peepes; Doc Frudakis is no rarity to the fold. NO doubt he feels absolutely no remorse whatsoever; Hell, he might even think he’s still on to something…or perhaps well onto the same thing all along. Maybe not the same thing some of us were thinking it was all about way back then, but something profitable nonetheless for a few select henchman. For sake of the longs herein, the said foolhards of the penny market, I hope this issue, proves its manhood (so to speak) &, goes the distance all the way to the Nasdaq. But it is a pie made solely of sour grapes…& sugar substitute. All JMHO. & opinions are everywhere.
buyer beware
frog: u know, to this day I just don’t get u. an outwardly intellectual cat who spends so much seemingly useless time arguing moot points on a barely functioning nano-stock p&d chatbox. for a time there I began to believe it was just for sake of black irony & entertainment, but it’s some sort of psychological “otic” or “ism” or “ia” or “osis” isn’t it? …Do u actually read through all this stuff anymore, …or just skim for your pet peeves to jump all over?
condescending matter-of-factly,
pp # umpty-three
life o brian: i only need .70 to be locating easyStitch & breaking-out w/the boat drinks! not boat-drinks of celebration for a few percent to the good, but the Groovy to Break-Even on DNAP Long Boat Drinkers Blues. & that, DNAPsters, is good enough for me
~~ as i wish in one hand and spit in the other to see which one is tangible first. time is money.
be well.