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so Hill/Bill are by her own description "Horrible" and trying to Destroy Democracy,,,,nice... btw I have never looked at or read Alex Jones... but will check him out if PROGS hate.
HERES a PLAN for DEMS back FROM DEAD
It's called "President Obama: Run for Speaker of the House in 2018," and it outlines a practical and eminently constitutional path by which Obama could become the second-most-powerful elected official in America two years from now.
Here's the whole deal: The president's Chicago residence is in Illinois' 1st Congressional District, which is represented by Bobby Rush. If Rush were to step aside in 2018—not entirely implausible, as he turns 70 today and has served in the House since 1993—Obama could run for Rush's seat while campaigning nationally for other Democratic House candidates on the premise that he'd be selected as Speaker if the party won a majority.
will he do it?
http://www.businessinsider.com/barack-obama-could-run-for-congress-in-2018-2016-11
gonna be a long 4 years for you,,, then the rest of your life.
identity politics is all you got....
Democrats are finally beginning to question the wisdom of basing their fortunes on identity politics.
Having counted on the allegiance of African-Americans, Hispanics, gays, unmarried women and the young — and winning the popular vote all but once since 1992 — they were seduced into believing that they could ride this "coalition of the ascendant" into permanent command of the presidency.
Even Bernie Sanders is urging that "we go beyond identity politics" if Democrats are ever to appeal again to the working class.
http://www.courant.com/opinion/op-ed/
In a remarkable statement that seemed to cast doubt on American democracy, Donald J. Trump said Wednesday (October 19) that he might not accept the results of next month’s election if he felt it was rigged against him — a stand that Hillary Clinton blasted as “horrifying” at their final and caustic debate on Wednesday.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/20/us/politics/presidential-debate.html?_r=0
Every losing presidential candidate in modern times has accepted the will of the voters, even in extraordinarily close races, such as when John F. Kennedy narrowly defeated Richard M. Nixon in 1960 and George W. Bush beat Al Gore in Florida to win the presidency in 2000.
speaking of babble... "Clintons Confirm Participation In Recount Plan, Despite No "Actionable Evidence Of Hacking" "We had not uncovered any actionable evidence of hacking or outside attempts to alter the voting technology...the number of votes separating Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the closest of these states—Michigan—well exceeds the largest margin ever overcome in a recount."
Even Obama Slams Stein's Recounts: The Results "Accurately Reflect The Will Of The American People"
Of course, while Stein reiterated numerous allegations of foreign
hacking that were well circulated, yet never officially linked to a specific source, before the election, her petition didn't offer a single shred of actual, tangible evidence that the election results in Wisconsin were in anyway tampered with.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-26/even-obama-slams-steins-recounts-results-accurately-reflect-will-american-people
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-26/clinton-attorney-announces-plan-participate-recounts-despite-no-actionable-evidence-
zerohedge just posted that it's not a heavily staffed hegemony site but I like because it posts a lot of usable direct quotes. Not disputable even if you don't like the opinions that accompany.
you said that Trump was an oligarch, and that would mean you agree there is an oligarchy. Follow your logic and you will agree with yourself.
pigs get fed - hogsgeteaten
it's easy hookrider, not to worry my Thanksgiving was good, you?
I was away for months and obviously missed,,, what with all the viscous replies,,,, kind of like those "alts" getting energy from attention. Bwaaahahahaha
hookrider, when the left calls names, like racist and alt... pointing the finger - guilty of what they call. Fake News = Much of MSM...
"In its attempt to redirect the public's attention from its historic failure to deliver unbiased, objective, factual reporting in the context of the presidential election in which virtually every single mainstream media outlet was revealed (courtesy of the hacked Podesta emails) and acted as a Public Relations arm for the Clinton campaign, said media has opened a new can of worms by ushering in the topic of "fake news" - a purposefully vague, undefined term meant to deflect and scapegoat by "exposing" propaganda websites, which in the latest incarnation of the narrative, are now allegedly serving to further Russian propaganda in the US.
As we reported earlier, none other than the Washington Post - a company owned by Jeff Bezos, who for the past year has been involved in a famous media spat with president-elect Donald Trump - pounced on a list created by a website that was created (according to its whois profile) on August 21 using godaddy.com as registrar and had its first tweet on November 2, and which among others, lists Drudge Report and Zero Hedge as representatives of "Russian propaganda." This is how the "scientists" at the Goebbels-esque "PropOrNot" describe their qualifications in determining and recommending which websites are fit to be burned (starting with a plea for investigations by the Obama administration) in a post "fake news" world:
PropOrNot is an independent team of computer scientists, statisticians, national security professionals, journalists, and political activists dedicated to identifying propaganda - particularly Russian propaganda targeting a US audience. We collect public-record information connecting propaganda outlets to each other and their coordinators abroad, analyze what we find, act as a central repository and point of reference for related information, and organize efforts to oppose it.
We work to shine a light on propaganda in order to prevent it from distorting political and policy discussions, to strengthen our cultural immune systems against hostile influence, and to improve public discourse generally.
Many of our contributors wish to stay anonymous, in light of possible Russian retaliation, as has happened in Finland and elsewhere.
In other words, while attacking the anonymity of so-called "Russian propaganda" websites (websites which chose to remain anonymous knowing this kind of retaliation was inevitable), the public servants and experts devoted to rooting out Russian propaganda in the US opt, themselves, to remain anonymous.
To be sure, we have no interest in uncovering who may be behind this particular organization (which conveniently stepped in after a similar list was floated last week by a discredited liberal professor, who likewise defined Zero Hedge as "fake news"). We do, want, however to warn readers about who the real source of documented fake news in the US traditionally has been. The US government itself, through its vast espionage and counterespionage apparatus.
But please don't take our word for it.
Back in 1975, the United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities found in 1975 that the CIA submitted stories to the American press, and that as part of the CIA's playbook was the usage of disinformation tactics against America's own population:"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-25/meet-real-fake-news
hookrider, your reply to the article I do hope is true, indicates you could be a brain washed MSM zombie. Wake UP ! Get out th' BUBBLE man.
Trump has been an oligarch and could now be completely full of crap with only oligarchy interests. Or like Craig said he could be the one who could disrupt. But, your claim he is belies that,,,, we both agree the U.S.A. / World been in a state of oligarchy. And had Hill/Bill won the Globalist Elites would have remained in complete control their great influence bought and paid for.
Liberals, progressives, and the left-wing (to the extent that one still exists) are aligning with the corrupt oligarchy against president-elect Trump and the American people.
They are busy at work trying to generate hysteria over Trump’s “authoritarian personality and followers.” In other words, the message is: here come the fascists.
Liberals and progressives wailed and whined about “an all white male cabinet,” only to be made fools by Trump’s appointment of a black male and two women, one a minority and one a Trump critic.
The oligarchs are organizing their liberal progressive front groups to disrupt Trump’s inauguration in an effort to continue the attempt to delegitimize Trump the way the paid Maidan protesters were used in Kiev to delegitimize the elected Ukrainian government.
To the extent any of the Trump protesters are sincere and not merely paid tools of oligarchs, such as George Soros, military and financial interests, and global capitalists, they should consider that false claims and unjustified criticism can cause Trump and his supporters to close their ears to all criticism and make it easier for neoconservatives to influence Trump by offering support.
At this point we don’t know what a Trump government is going to do. If he sells out the people, he won’t be reelected. If he is defeated by the oligarchy, the people will become more radical.
We do not know how Washington insiders appointed to the government will behave inside a Trump presidency. Unless they are ideologues like the neoconservatives or agents of powerful interests, insiders survive by going along with the current. If the current changes under Trump, so will the insiders.
Trump got elected because flyover America has had all it can take from the self-dealing oligarchy. The vast bullk of America has seen its economic prospects and that of children and grandchildren decline for a quarter century. The states Hillary carried are limited to the liberal enclaves and oligarchy’s stomping grounds on the NE and West coasts and in Colorado and New Mexico, where effete wealthy liberals have located because of the scenary. If you look at the red/blue electoral map, geographically speaking Hillary’s support is very limited.
We know that Hillary is an agent for the One Percent. The Clintons $120 million personal wealth and $1.6 billion personal foundation are proof that the Clintons are bought-and-paid-for. We know that Hillary is responsible for the destruction of Libya and of much of Syria and for the overthrow of the democratically elected government in Ukraine. We know that the Clinton regime’s sanctions on Iraq resulted in the deaths of 500,000 children. These are war crimes and crimes against humanity. We know Hillary used government office for private gain. We know she violated national security laws without being held accountable. What we don’t know is why groups that allegedly are liberal-progressive-leftwing are such fervent supporters of Hillary.
One possible answer is that these groups are mere fronts for vested interests and are devoid of any sincere motives.
Another possible answer is that these groups believe that the important issues are not jobs for Americans and avoiding war with nuclear powers, but transgender, homosexual and illegal alien rights.
Another possible answer is that these groups are uninformed and stupid.
What these protesters see as a threat in Trump’s strong and willful personality is actually a virtue. A cipher like Obama has no more ability to stand up to the oligarchy than a disengaged George W. Bush so easily stage-managed by Dick Cheney. Nothing less than an authoritarian style and personality is a match for the well-entrenched ruling oligarchy and willful neoconservatives. If Trump were a shrinking violet, the electorate would have ignored him.
Trump did not purchase his presidency with the offer of handouts to blacks, the poor generally, teachers unions, farmers, abortion rights for women, etc. Trump was elected because he said: “Those who control the levers of power in Washington and the global special interests they partner with, don’t have your good in mind. It’s a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities. The only thing that can stop this corrupt machine is you.”
It has been a long time since the electorate heard this kind of talk from someone seeking public office. Trump’s words are what Americans were waiting to hear.
As willful as Trump is, he is only one person. The oligarchy are many.
As impressive as Trump’s billion dollars is, the oligarchs have trillions.
Congress being in Republican hands will spare Trump partisan obstruction, but Congress remains in the hands of interest groups.
As powerful as the office of the president can be, without unity in government changes from the top don’t occur, especially if the president is at odds with the military with regard to the alleged threat posed by Russia and China. Trump says he wants peace with the nuclear powers. The military/security complex needs an enemy for its budget.
It is absolutely necessary that a lid be put on tensions between nuclear powers and that economic opportunity reappears for the American people. Trump is not positioned to benefit from war and jobs offshoring. The only sensible strategy is to support him on these issues and to hold his feet to the fire.
As for the immigration issue, the Obama Justice (sic) Department has just worsened the picture with its ruling that American police departments cannot discriminate against non-citizens by only hiring citizens as officers. Now that US citizens face arrest in their own country by non-citizens, the resentment of immigrants will increase. Clearly it is nonsensical to devalue American citizenship in this way. Clearly it is sensible to put a lid on immigration until the US economy is again able to create jobs capable of sustaining an independent existence.
If Trump can defeat the oligarchy and save America, he can go down in history as Trump the Great. I think that this prospect appeals to Trump more than more wealth. Instead of trying to tear him down in advance, he should be supported. With Trump’s determination and the people’s support, change from the top down is possible. Otherwise, change has to come from the bottom up, and that means an awful lot of blood in the streets.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/11/25/trump-the-great-paul-craig-roberts/
Would tell a lie...even when the truth would work better ....you haters and never stop campaigners waist time on race bait bunny trails when real traction would have and is now in the finance ..follow the money. http://www.newsweek.com/2016/12/02/robert-mercer-trump-donor-bannon-pac-523366.html
Ok thanks I'll do it...lmao ..silly ...point is what I said
No frikken legitimacy and any energy aloted to alt-nuts coming from media attention damit. They should never have been raised to more than glancing mention but alt-slant MSM grasps for any way to inject RACE BAIT . Trump doesn't know about that kind of crazy and Bannon let Bbart voice a lot of voices does not mean he related
Not good...but beats the alternative. MSM going nuts about alt-right ,,,, a few hundred degenerates,,, which article in guardian makes clear is nothing to do with conservative and is miss named altogether being hyped simply to fit into destructive false narrative. ... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/22/alt-right-dont-belong-american-conservatism-jamie-weinstein
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HeHe,, I didn't say he was, but if he is it's Manchurian or maybe this >>
#BacktotheFuture accurately predicted @realDonaldTrump, whom inspired Biff, becoming president. http://ow.ly/3ILC306qryr #GreatScott
Freedom is precious. The right to be an idiot is one of the most important, as long as you don't break laws. So, Alt-Left / Alt-Right express away and the vast majority of USA Peeps will ignore or reject. What can you Sell,,, or Do for other people. That is what America is all about. NOT What kind of Government DO YOU want to impose your views on all the rest of us. That is why I have not been fond of (R) or (D). Both have been BIG GOVERNEMENT / BIG BUSINESS / TOO MANY LAWS / SUBJECTIVE ENFORCEMENT... BAIL OUT/PRINT MONEY... and when you turn more power over to fewer "Leaders" you slink towards TYRANY. If the Government can give you every thing you want ,,, it can take every thing you have. Including FREEDOM.
NEWSFLASH !!!
The campaign is over,,, Trump Won. Get used to it.
Donald Trump will not sic federal investigators on Hillary Clinton once he's in the White House.
Kellyanne Conway, a senior official on the Republican's presidential campaign and now his transition team, told Morning Joe the president-elect has a lot on his mind and 'things that sound like the campaign aren't among them.'
'I think Hillary Clinton still has to face the fact that a majority of Americans don't find her to be honest or trustworthy, but if Donald Trump can help her heal, then perhaps that's a good thing,' Conway said.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3960644/Trump-NOT-purse-investigations-Hillary-Donald-Trump-help-heal-s-good-thing.html#ixzz4QkED3iJc
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Under the capitalistic system the ultimate bosses are the consumers. The sovereign is not the state, it is the people. And the proof that they are the sovereign is borne out by the fact that they have the right to be foolish. This is the privilege of the sovereign. He has the right to make mistakes, no one can prevent him from making them, but of course he has to pay for his mistakes. If we say the consumer is supreme or that the consumer is sovereign, we do not say that the consumer is free from faults, that the consumer is a man who always knows what would be best for him. The consumers very often buy things or consume things they ought not to buy or ought not to consume.
But the notion that a capitalist form of government can prevent people from hurting themselves by controlling their consumption is false. The idea of government as a paternal authority, as a guardian for everybody, is the idea of those who favor socialism. In the United States some years ago, the government tried what was called “a noble experiment.” This noble experiment was a law making it illegal to buy or sell intoxicating beverages. It is certainly true that many people drink too much brandy and whiskey, and that they may hurt themselves by doing so. Some authorities in the United States are even opposed to smoking. Certainly there are many people who smoke too much and who smoke in spite of the fact that it would be better for them not to smoke. This raises a question which goes far beyond economic discussion: it shows what freedom really means.
Granted, that it is good to keep people from hurting themselves by drinking or smoking too much. But once you have admitted this, other people will say: Is the body everything? Is not the mind of man much more important? Is not the mind of man the real human endowment, the real human quality? If you give the government the right to determine the consumption of the human body, to determine whether one should smoke or not smoke, drink or not drink, there is no good reply you can give to people who say: “More important than the body is the mind and the soul, and man hurts himself much more by reading bad books, by listening to bad music and looking at bad movies. Therefore it is the duty of the government to prevent people from committing these faults.”
And, as you know, for many hundreds of years governments and authorities believed that this really was their duty. Nor did this happen in far distant ages only; not long ago, there was a government in Germany that considered it a governmental duty to distinguish between good and bad paintings—which of course meant good and bad from the point of view of a man who, in his youth, had failed the entrance examination at the Academy of Art in Vienna; good and bad from the point of view of a picture-postcard painter, Adolf Hitler. And it became illegal for people to utter other views about art and paintings than his, the Supreme Führer’s.
Once you begin to admit that it is the duty of the government to control your consumption of alcohol, what can you reply to those who say the control of books and ideas is much more important?
Freedom really means the freedom to make mistakes. This we have to realize. We may be highly critical with regard to the way in which our fellow citizens are spending their money and living their lives. We may believe that what they are doing is absolutely foolish and bad, but in a free society, there are many ways for people to air their opinions on how their fellow citizens should change their ways of life. They can write books; they can write articles; they can make speeches; they can even preach at street comers if they want—and they do this in many countries. But they must not try to police other people in order to prevent them from doing certain things simply because they themselves do not want these other people to have the freedom to do it.
[Excerpted from Economic Policy: Thoughts for Today and Tomorrow]
https://mises.org/blog/prohibition-and-socialist-ideal
hookrider, there is no shortage of uncertainty. Trump a Manchurian Candidate for Elites,,,, think about it. If it's true he is on some powerful drugs or deserves an Oscar. But, he could morph into anything. That is why there is so much pay to hate him. UNCERTAINTY
Trump did not say he could appoint other nations ambassadors, he made a suggestion. see >Many People<. Your post is a fine example of spin with a twist.
F6 agrees that over 60 million voters are all in for Racism, Mysoginy, Hate of all descriptions. We're not in Kansas anymore Toto.... Alt-Left hate is the good kind, I guess. Ya, that makes a lot of sense.
got it, Alt-Left Keith Ellison is your guy, huh ...
You PROG Alt-Lefters suck up to radical Islam and cheer on cop killers cause Police are the bad guys >?<,,,WOW
http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-trouble-with-keith-ellison/article/2005488#!
http://nypost.com/2016/11/22/san-antonio-cop-killer-staked-out-police-headquarters-before-shooting/
agree again, the lame race baiting liberals float is not going to be of consequence, but Trump's inability to grasp how conflicted he will be and be seen as, even worse than Hillary was, if he does not properly separate himself from his business dealings and influence. I don't think he expected to win and is still coming to terms.
right and right, a complete chithead bastard... full of himself and impossible to like. I agree. But, it may be that America needs a bastard to fight for us instead of a smooth operator who carries water for the Globalists New World Order Elites.
when correctness becomes the issue rather than effective communication and causes a total lack of humor it is a problem. Trump being himself, telling it like he saw it, is part of the reason so many lug heads voted for him. Today he told off the press. War on INK.. uh,,oh
"Trump kept saying, 'We're in a room of liars, the deceitful dishonest media who got it all wrong.' He addressed everyone in the room calling the media dishonest, deceitful liars. He called out Jeff Zucker by name and said everyone at CNN was a liar, and CNN was [a] network of liars,” a source told the Post.
Trump specifically took aim at Zucker, CNN's president, telling him: "I hate your network. Everyone at CNN is a liar, and you should be ashamed," according to the Post.
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-media-meeting-press-cbs-nbc-cnn-fox-2016-11
personally, I would prefer civility all the time but that is not the real world as we see here when any of the PROGS disagree with me name calling is all the rage.
Rep Ryan (D) may be able to talk some sense to ya,,,,
"The average American, the average working-class American, flipped their middle finger to the establishment," Ryan said. "The Democratic establishment, the Republican establishment, Wall Street, they think everybody is more concerned with the donor class than they are with the working class. And they sent a very strong signal, which is why I got into this race because I'm trying to convince my colleagues, 200 members of our Democratic caucus, that the American people have asked for us to change things and we can't keep going down the same road." http://www.aol.com/article/2016/11/21/pelosi-challenger-im-pulling-the-fire-alarm-because-house-i/21611099/
BWWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA !! BullNBear52 you are serious. So, over 60 million voted FOR bigotry, misogyny and racism. What a Country !! BWWWWWAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!
funny,,, I assume fuagf that you are a sincere person. Jeff Sessions says "I AM NOT A RACIST". I say "I AM NOT A RACIST - NEVER HAVE BEEN !" but you can't seem to say that. Is that an Australia thing or particular to you?
hookrider, we are talking 30 years .Racism is in your heart as you know, but you can also get in a bad habit of speaking in a way you hear a lot. Politicaly Correct is fairly new. It is hard to be any kind of sincere person with a long career and live a lie. Here was what he had to say at that time.
hookrider, thank you for your service. Of course I was being facetious to shed light on the ridiculous exercise going on here and MSM that continues the vile election acrimony screaming RACIST over and over when a discussion of specific issues and solutions would be more appropriate. Both sides are guilty of throwing insults but, as I said, to make the claim someone is RACIST is a serious low blow. Feel the Burn? Now in that series of sarcastic posts where I made, yes silly broad generalizations about Texans and Australians, did I discover that the board Aussie can't say the words,,, I AM NOT A RACIST. And I remembered how harsh F6 was making fun of Ben Carson. Seemed bigoted to me and I said at the time.
BTW I AM NOT A RACIST -NEVER HAVE BEEN and I grew up in N.C. so I know something about bigots. Like you, many people have changed in the last 30 years, so is it possible Jeff Sessions could be forgiven for saying dumb things? All fall to prejudice at times, but that is very different than the insane, ignorant, sick, destructive hate of RACISM.
so by your inability to say in any way that you are not, given three chances now I will assume you operate from a basis of racism.
fuagf, you still are not saying you are not like all the other Australians. So, you must be.
personally witnessed your racism as you made bigot fun of Dr. Ben Carson. Racist through and through are you Texans
do you treat people like it appears is common in Australia - Like the racists Aussies are portrayed to be? If you say no, then I would believe you. But you won't deny your bigotry so ,,, >>?<<
Texans can't deny it.
yes but what about all the tales of Australia - you in ?