I am not doing a lot. I am retired. Doing a bit of share trading and own a bit of real estate.
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The normal quality control process is to pull a random sample, test it and then later pull another. When a problem is seen then pull more samples more often. If the problem persists, then shut down production and investigate the PRODUCTION PROCESS and correct the problem.
The devil is ALWAYS in the process... whether manufacturing or procurement.
It is hard to see that the G4 even if it works as advertised, is of much value in the normal QC process. Because of the law of diminishing returns, adding the G4 to the process itself by looking at every drip bag would not likely happen.
If CDEX really sent one G4 off somewhere it was MOST likely someplace controlled by GUDE OLE JIM. Jim has been getting extra payment in shares. And he has been prominent at all of the trade shows. Pals with MP. He wrote white papers in praise of the first edition of VALIMED..if any of those are in any hospitals anymore, they have perhaps been pressed into duty as a doorstop. Although they did work to some degree but that duty if any is of small value, having been replaced by advances is technology, NOT NEEDED. A niche device now filled by other advances, if ever really needed in the first place.
Assuming that they are really trying to develop anything, your thesis makes much sense. Farm out the expensive parts. Keep what money they have for payoffs, salaries, bonuses. Nobody around the LAB with a clue about anything technical except maybe WADE, who is a consultant only, and has other things to do.
I say that the G4 with its hacked technology Is only imaginary, not real. Dreamed up to keep a CDEX oar in the water. THE IDEA is the sales point, NOT REALITY. The sales if any comes from that idea.. a doo hickey that can determine if the drip bag is true to its labels, is sterile, and is at least somewhat worth its cost. And furthermore can do it all in seconds, no need to do expensive lab tests for quality control, or to thwart counterfeits.
The real idea is to sell CDEX shares. Which BTW, is not working, ether.
If there is a G4 not certified, in a supposedly sterile environment, and someone is harmed or killed by it, and that someone hires a lawyer to dig into it, and that Lawyer has the pull to start an investigation with competent investigators, then there could be trouble with the law. SHORE NUFF TROUBLE!!
HINTS that great things are going on BEHIND THE SCENE are not often believed. Especially from COMPANIES like CDEX with a LONG history of non performance.
What is more amazing is that A company that one could presume would want to build demand for a product and keep shareholders informed would fail to provide believable information regarding their products.
This lack of information is more likely to result in decided lack of interest by the shareholders and creditors and lending institutions in providing sorely needed support.
USING the shopworn excuse that people would call and bother the parties with dumb questions has been the modus of operation by CDEX management since the beginning. Not smart then. not smart now.
But typical of companies whose main and only successful product has been and still is the sale or placement of shares. A share selling SCAM. That term best describes CDEX.
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I could add that WHOMEVER angers me, conquers me. but I won't. LOL!!
Posting about deletions is a NO-NO.
GEMINI, if there was anything worth the trouble and expense, would surely have sued to get the company by foreclosure of their debt. But they did not bother. Why spend a pound to get a Ha'penny?
Not having enough money to get the job done and pay all the pigs at the trough is the same thing as gone broke. No bank would lend CDEX any money. Only a fool as a supplier or a supplier who has not done enough DD to know that CDEX will stiff them with worthless stock would send them any supplies needed to get the job done.
The last SEC report says that of the last of JANUARY, there was only a little over 60K bucks left in the CDEX treasury.
Their only real asset is the generosity of the OIL PATCH BOYOS, and I can only imagine why they would feed any more money down that rathole.
I give them more credit for brains than to believe that they do it for love of WADE and JB. Or faith in the eventual demand for the IG4.
Simple. Ain't any IG4 beta test sites. Maybe an IMAGINARY one.
Somewhere over the rainbow. Down a yellow brick road. Turn Left then Right and then ZIGZAG a mite. Is that the Wizard or is it a Lizard?? Did the wicked Witch zap it?? Or did CDEX CEO nap it??
It is a standard excuse for non performance. Manufactured in the mind, during a nap.
HOW Can anyone beta test an imaginary device?? Well, simple. Just imagine that you are beta testing. A corncob or a broomstick will do for simulation purposes.
Trouble is after you getter did, you gotta try and sell it.
NO, the cat did not eat it.
BTW, it is RECOUP....not RE-COOP.. Although it is true that the ANGELS HAVE PUT CDEX IN A COOP OF SORT.. We shall see how THAT turns out.
BUT SHOOT yall Oil PATCH BOYOS,,NERVOUS NELLIES NEVER WON ANYTHING!! Go FOR IT!!
AND of course, any action would have to be first approved by MP.That feller that knows where ALL of the bodies are buried...HECK, he HELPED BURY
THEM!!!
Not only do I think that the "Angel Investors" wanted the BK, but also that they helped to engineer it.. along with help from MP.
Who was it that put up the 50K to hire the BK lawyers?? Somebody from Alabama?? NOPE, it was one of the "ANGELS".
Who was it that tried to deal with GEMINI to write off their portion of the debt?? Was it a MATEY from Australia?? Well maybe close (LOL) but NOPE, it was an "ANGEL".
Who was it that got JB to select an "ANGEL" for the BOD?? A stickball team from the streets of the BRONX?? NOPE, Your old BUDDY MP and the "ANGEL" team.
Who was it that got the JUDGE to declare that the "ANGELS" have the only secured loan to CDEX? An Easter Island statue?? NOPE, it was the "ANGEL TEAM" by offering to finance CDEX for awhile.
Heck yeas, it was them "ANGELS" that wanted the BK and screw all existing shareholders and creditors (who were already screwed anyway) and got JB, who was already a practiced BKer and MP to getter did.
Believing ANYTHING he says, or for that matter, anything his MENTOR and best BUDDY MP says puts ones wallet in mortal danger of becoming EMPTY.
You mean that CEO feller, the one that is a notorious liar, who lied to two BK courts, the one that sold a fiction to the oil patchers re a non-existant purely imaginary CANCER device, then actually claiming the money as PRODUCT SALES, the same one that went into cahoots with GRIFFIN to make a LOAN SHARK loan to CDEX, the one that pawned an airplane and a yacht that he he did not own to a Dude in Cal, the one that got MP to collaborate with him by getting MP to sign a fictitious SHARE CERT for him, then laying the bad mouth on MP and ETC, ETC....Is THAT the feller you say we should call??????????
WHAT FOOL outside of the OIL PATCH would believe ANYTHING he says?? For sure none (except one MAYBE) of the old PP and ordinary shareholders that supported CDEX to the bitter end. Not to mention the creditors who were bilked in the BKs..
Many thanks for that "definitive" reply to my Question. Actually, I was asking for particulars. But not really expecting them. You said that CISCO is a liar. I said prove it. You did not.
So OK, you say that there are still people working or at least showing up at the LAB??
So tell us, if you can... just who is showing up, and when, and for what purpose??
It is noted that you have recently failed to mention the CEO and his activities in support of CDEX. So just what is the story here?? Is WADE now the acting CEO???
That quote told me that the Oil Patchers were planning to use the CDEX shell to go public with the DOCs medical testing labs.. selling franchises. Now it appears that they may have abandoned that idea. IF it was the plan.
The legal groundwork was laid with the fake sale of any future CDEX development in ONCOLOGY detection and cure to the Oil Patch boys.. as exclusive distributers. Sort of like a patent but without a true patent.
Yes it is so. The INONITs have made money all the way..in varying degrees. The one person that has been openly active even as a CONSULTANT instead of EMPLOYEE is still there for whatever is still in it for him or anyone else. Unless the OIL PATCH ANGELS come up with a new infusion of money though it is doubtful if there is much in it for anyone anymore.
Maybe CDEX can come up with a new IMAGINARY thing similar to the ONCOLGY one that they "sold" to the OIL PATCHERS and get some more money. But that appears doubtful, also. According to CISCO there is nobody around the LAB anymore, for quite awhile now.
Thankfully, the really dangerous element(s) who were first attracted to the SCAM decided that it was not worth the trouble
for the comparatively small return, compared to the drugs and casinos. The FEDS took an interest in the doings on, and the BIG HIT was made during that run-up in SP back in 2000.
JB had no executive talent, or he would not have worked so cheap.
CDEX deserves a better level of CROOK running things. One with a real imagination!! The G4?? Not even JOE SIXPACK bought into that nonsense!!! Nor did his fat wife. Even WADE had trouble keeping his tongue in his cheek as he backed up JB.
BAH!!!!
The Oil patch boys are rich. They can afford a REAL salary plus shore-nuff perks. So I would need a signing bonus of 7.8 million, a company jet, a fleet of Limos and a plush office well stocked with nubile secretaries and go-fers. Maybe a round dozen.
In exchange, I would offer much more believable lies than has been the wont afore furnished. The G4 is not in it. I would expand into a less esoteric and more universal market with appeal to even Joe Sixpack and his fat wife, as well as all patriotic americans. I would promise to work hard and do right, vote Republican and save a life every 10 seconds.
I would promise to make CDEX into another SUPER INFAMOUS company, regarded with suspicion by all lesser liars as one like to corner the lie market on an INTERNATIONAL SCALE. Sought after by all politicians as a source of believable lies.
Further, I would promise to provide STERLING excuses for every failure, blaming it all on the Government.
http://www.valimed.com/
btw, click on this. CDEX has rented it out. Any little thang for a few buck!!
Settled by CDEX agreeing to pay up. Both sides then took it outa court by getting the judge to sign off "with prejudice". Not a victory, but a loss for CDEX.
I once looked through the list of shareholders furnished by CDEX in relation to the BK and did not find him. However most holders were in street name.
LOCH/CDEX had a lot of "enthusiastic" followers from the Sunshine State early on.
AFTER ALL, AS TB SAID OFTEN,,, "ELF WORKS, VAMMP WORKS, AND THE TECHNOLOGY IS WORTH BILLIONS". And this; "PUT THE BASHERS ON IGNORE AS I DO".
TB WAS RATHER LOOSE AS A LOOSE TOOTH WITH THE TRUTH.
His quarters were in BOCA RATON back then. Which means Mouth of the RAT.
LOL!! I give the CAP'N credit for having better sense than to take CDEX shares as payment for services rendered... Although he MIGHT have been a troo-bleever early on. I think that his payment came under the heading of CONSULTANT or maybe R&D.
Of course, there is a remote possibility that he was employed by some FOKES out on the STAKED PLAINS.
News from one year ago. Not heard from since.
I decided that in early 2000, AD. Never found any reason to re-think my decision... Basing the ELF on a plume of escaping gas captured in midair by an XRAY of previously unknown wavelength despite summer breezes or winter gales which would quickly disperse any such, faint to begin with. Not bloody likely.
Then none of the so-called inventors were ever found to drag that ELF into a live mine-field with unknown mine locations.
ELF never found a mine. Not even ONE. Won't next time, either!!