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Yep. 6000 acres = 9.37 square miles. that is nine sections of land. That could be a state park where I live.
Believe me, I've fought mulberries for years. They reproduce through runners. You can grind the stump down and remove the roots and still. . .
You almost have to poison the ground to get rid of them. In three years, they will have a forest. Their main maintenance will be to keep the rows clear of volunteer trees so they can harvest leaves.
About the mulberry news release. I don't know a lot about stocks, but I know mulberries and 6,000 acres is a hell of a lot of mulberries. They grow extremely fast and big and they are extremely hardy. It is a little hard for me to imagine 6000 acres of them. That alone seems like a big operation if it will take that much for the worms.
Haven't tuned in for a while. The inWith web site looks pretty good. Hope there's still some money here.
Still, the fact remains, these are real patents, developed by a DARPA research scientist, and while they could go nowhere . . . they could very well go somewhere important. Those who say they are worthless are in the same boat as those who say they are priceless. They don't really know, and neither do I. If anyone actually knew, no one on this board, probably, could afford the stock. So, if I'm taking a risk (and what the hell are you dong with penny stocks?) then this looks like a pretty good risk. Am I betting the farm? No. But I am betting some, and I'll hold my bet until it either pays or doesn't. Yeah, yeah, dispute everything I say. That's your job.
I think this article points out part of the problem epgl has. The technology is good, but it is three stages too advance for the market at this time. AR will take off, but it hasn't yet, and less advanced technology will be sold first to open the market. The same thing happened in the music recording industry. The big manufacturers don't have to get in a hurry until they actually see the demand rise and a need for more advanced technology. This will happen, but not as fast as traders want it to happen. Believe me, whatever company buys out epgl at .25 will be getting a bargin, but it won't start to pay off for 5 to 7 years, so they aren't in a hurry. These bigger companies know that the pressure to produce is on Hayes, so they can wait. For a quick turn, epgl needs to turn to the US military or health industry. That's my take, anyway.
Hayes doesn't handle my investment. He's a company CEO, a pink sheet company. I don't trust any CEO, but I do like the technology and the patents. Their problem in retail is the technology is too advance, like the CD before the 8 track.
If they changed CEO's would that make the company any better or worse? It's what they are trying to sell, not the salesman that is going to make the company. Am I disappointed? Yes. Life and business are full of it. Will things get better? Yes, as long as the technology is true. When the rest of the world catches up and all the other AR and VR bulky machines have been sold, then the mini version will hit the market. Will it use EPGL's technology? I don't know, but I will take that risk.
There has been ongoing mudslinging for years, mainly on the part of traders, then Hayes began answering in tweets. They started it by badmouthing Hayes and they have badmouthed every move he's made.
The longs here are actually long. I'm not looking for a quick turn with a start-up. Lots of hills and valleys, yes, but no get rich quick.
This technology is so advanced that the retail market is hesitant. However, the military might want something that is this advanced. My son is a Marine. I would love it if he had augmented vision that would alert and tell him where the threat is or give him telescopic vision. On the retail end, companies will want to saturate the market with what is already out there, but the military is a different story.
If I sold because of this "update," I would watch this company very closely for the next week or two if I still wanted to make money form it, or I would get back in as it bottoms out . . . which it may have done.
I think Hayes has no love for traders on this board. So, if I wanted to fork them, I would make an announcement like the one today and follow it tomorrow with something different. And then the chase is on. I mean, that's something I would think about doing if I wanted to catch people with their pants down. I think Hayes might enjoy that, referencing some of his tweets. I hope he has the firepower to do it. I'm still long. Got my investment back, so I'm not going anywhere.
I have to admit, that looks like it was written by someone who had nothing to say.
must want people to sell.
Even though there was a lot of volume, my guess is that epgl is on even more watch lists. If that is so, real movement toward any stated goals may encourage buying. Don't blink for too long. Then again, maybe the winds will stop blowing and doledrums will set in. Doubt it.
We will step up again on news of progress. If you want to stay in, and you sell now, in my opinion, you better watch it very closely, or you'll miss the boat on the next step. Just my opinion. I've already done anything I was going to do.
I would like to order another patent, please.
which is understandable for regular contacts. However, for something that gives a distinct advantage, I think they will find a way.
True, but this is basic training. They don't get live ammo, either. These lenses will be considered equipment and probably used by recon.
I'm giving EPGL the benefit of the doubt for two reasons. 1. I've been with them since preHayes, and I'm happy with the results. I could have made a lot more money if I had bought and sold at the right times. 2. Their technology is so far advanced that they are not the typical start-up. Present AR and VR equipment has not saturated the market. It's like selling CD's before everyone has an 8-track. If they focus on the medical aspect, we could see a buy-out sooner. But when it comes to AR and VR, companies have already sunk money into the equipment presently on the market and that has to pay off first. If they threaten other companies by manufacturing their own lenses, then there is an even bigger chance of a buy-out.
But what do I know? Nothing. It's a long shot. All pennies are long shots. That means there are far more chances for failure than success. That's why it's a long shot, and that's why it will pay off like a mother if it hits. So if you don't like playing the long shot, play the DOW.
Could this entire maneuver be designed to satisfy the legal requirements of PwC and the old EPGL but divert the IP and technology of the new EPGL (inWith), renamed so it can either bought out or listed on a higher market tier? If so, I think I will be in with inWith.
So far, all I've received is an e-mail leading to a web site where I have two messages from brokers with phone numbers. I just looked at it and backed out. We have a few days. I have never done anything like this before, so I'm not rushing. I have a moderate number of shares, a little under 1/2 million.
Got mine. Not sure what to do. Any suggestions among longs?
Interested, but maybe not in a hurry. The market still isn't ready for VR and AR contacts. Wait until versions of VR and AR which are presently on the market have saturated sales. Vision correction for those whom present contacts or glasses won't help is one area that will have an immediate market.
True. It's a risk. But what if? There is no doubt that a company holding patents to microscopic electronics for contacts is on the right track. I think it's been proven that the patents work and can be manufactured. I wish they would communicate more about what is going on with this new company move. But whatever it is, I will probably see this hand play out.
I've been watching pretty closely for 4 years and when a really good volume day for this stock. . . I mean, really good, is under 3 million sells and buys, no one is dumping very much, not when you have 2 billion shares. There just hasn't been that much total volume in the last three years for anyone to be dumping anything significant and most of the volume has been buys. That's why people are gripping. They bought at 6 and 8 cents and haven't been able to get even. I doubt if PwC is going to put in 4 years and sell for fractions when they have actual patents and a developed product, not a manufactured product, but one that has been proven to be able to be manufactured. Nope. Isn't happening and won't happen. A lot of traders have been trapped and they would love a 9 cent buyout. I think they would be selling cheap.
Why would Pwc be dumping? They aren't going to get anything at this level, just drive the price down . . . and how many shares do they have to unload? No, I think they would be pushing for a buy-out or the 9 cents before they start dumping. Of course, there is always a chance that what is happening is completely legit and that people who make the right decision will profit. Since it hasn't happened yet, no one knows. but I think Pwc would be hurting themselves to be selling at these prices when they've had plenty of chances to unload at much higher prices.
Is the new tweet on EPGL's web page? If so, I'm not getting it.
Several companies may be using this technology. Too bad. They will have to stop or pay the price. It doesn't matter if you can do it if you don't have the patent.
That's the realist in you speaking, but the romantic says go long. I agree. But then I've been here since before the split in 2012. I had already given up on it once, and then they changed the game. I'm letting it ride.
Maybe JNJ is going to distribute, inWith manufactures, and EPGL holds patents. If it takes off, JNJ buys out one or both so JNJ gets in risk free. I know nothing; I just own stock.
what does this mean?
InWith within. Pretty obvious slogan.
I want to know more about inwith.
I got the form through e-mail.
Thanks. I didn't capitalize the k. Figures.
Anyone having trouble with the form? It won't allow me to fill out the "state" blank. I'm from Oklahoma. Maybe that's the problem. I understand.
What's up with Sony's energy harvester patent? Sounds a lot like EPGL's.
In this case, much of the R&D has already been done. What EPGL needs to do is show that their technology is the window through which others much pass to put ar or vr into contacts. If they can show that to JnJ, then it doesn't matter if the final market is five years away. EPGL has been saying that whoever has their technology holds the key to the smart contact. From the penny investor's point of view, it's a roll of the dice, but I like the possible pay off.
I believe that what we see in the picture is several years from being on the market. There are other layers of products that companies will want to unload first. But it will certainly be on the market. I think this is why EPGL will be bought, probably by one of the manufacturers of the current AR and VR technologies. They will want the market to be saturated with the devices they have now before introducing the contacts, and they will probably focus (yes, pun)on medical aspects first. They will want to have smart contact technology in hand well before it's put on the market, and that means buy-out. There may be a problem in that the technology is so advanced and it may be several years before it hits the market, so the companies may hesitate to pay what it is worth. And they may think time is on their side.
Right. Coo is having it's own problems, so it's too soon to make an investment decision based on what happened with COO. What we can be sure of is that the technology is real. This is like getting in on CD technology when 8 tracks were selling. Which, I believe is one of the problems with COO. I don't think they were ready to handle the developing, manufacturing, and marketing of something this new and this big, since last year they had major acquisitions and the stock took a major hit. They are up from what they were, and they are still down 21%. They weren't going to risk anything with a start-up with untried technology after the bottom fell out last August.
to manage the stock, to help make it profitable. This is a much different company than before PWC's involvement. It was restructured under PWC"S management. They have already made and effort.