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Don't you think your investment style in buying a micro penny stock pretty common (buying, selling-P&D the same stock frequently and often). That's cool if that is your MO...not unusual for this "neck of the woods".
What is really cool to me, regarding this stock and this board, is the abundance of investors that have stuck with HLNT for a very, very long time believing, acknowledging mistakes, small victories, and the great potential that may lie ahead. Be assured there are many of us out there.
Fair enough.
IMO-I guess we will not know ALL the facts until the case is over, now won't we.
From what I am reading in some of your statements "drowning"-There is opinion and implication on your part (that is where IMO come into play).
Being truly authentic-Have a great day!
"Speculation at Best". Yeah, I guess but I think that is what we do with micro penny stocks and why we are here... don't you think???
Let's face it...NONE of us know all the true FACTS from both sides, plaintiff and defendant, and will only possibly know when the case is over.
All those that post on this board have "something" at stake. That said I am with Midwesterner that I do not recall more than one or two prs from Launchit (at best), and I have been invested in HLNT for 3 years.
With 16,000,000 shares traded...Looks like there are many of us out there that still believe, hope, or anticipate a bright future for HLNT, and are not quickly dissuaded by the true facts out there and the high (positive and negative) innuendo given on a message board!!!
HLNT
Great to see you here. HLNT
Let's take another approach...HLNT meets/connects with a man just say his name is Cunetta. His background and connections are a perfect compliment to the HLNT product line. Maybe, just maybe, this "Cunetta" person sees and likes what he sees in the product potential. Then, through extensive dialog, and am sure tons of legal "stuff", both HLNT and Cunetta come up with a business model that both people/groups think will be successful. Knowing both groups will need time, energy and connections but great success is in their vision sights. "Boom"-two companies exists, one a public company (manufacturer and research end) and the other (private company) with the sales expertise.
Realizing this is way too simple than reality. But IMO why would this person "Cunetta" and his people want to be part/connected to the manufacturing end, that is not their gig. And Heck! Now the manufacturer can utilize their time perfecting their product/s, because that is what they do. In a simpleton theory that is the "perfect marriage"-connecting two groups that compliment each other. In other words---NO "twisted" SCAM what-so-ever as get implied quite often
Boy...Everyone has there way/journey on their own research...What is you point! HLNT
From one shareholder to another..."Failed miserably"-suggesting to a long shareholder to sell, looking out for their well-being I am sure. LOL. Suggestion, take your own advise as those that choose to stay know EXACTLY why they are choosing to do so! Good Luck to you.
Just because the pps has gone down doesn't mean scam. Frustrating...yes. But the sentiment of shareholders (buy or sell) doesn't mean that HLNT isn't working their butt off to get the "perfect" product out. When we have a good day, all is in love. Just how it works!
Can't argue that point...Another thought, why say anything, particularly when it immediately gets torn apart. It is a bit of a mystery to me. Think what you may, I am sticking around to see. I know what I KNOW-hear and read. Struggling?yes IMO, chancy? you betcha, but do I want to jump ship? Heck NO. (in truth-at least not yet) HLNT
Since we are all just making predictions "our opinions" from the information received, confirmed, or pure conjecture.
Can you imagine the day when/if we get that HUGE fleet deal!!! Isn't that great for you and me-people looking/hoping for the success right? That is my mantra-at least that is why I am here. Go HLNT
Better yet...Enlighten us with a name of a fledgling company that did not have any obstacles-just STRAIGHT to the top, not a stumbling block, didn't have to "tap dance" to keep shareholder interest, and "baby boomers" (your words) didn't say make me rich in a second.
Frustrated with how things are currently going with HLNT-heck yes. But I know why I am here, why I post and still have "faith". Not quite sure about others. Hope this is not feeding negativity rather sharing a position that seems quite different than yours. HLNT
PaulQIII-Great to see you post. Unfortunately-Honesty from you and others about the company and what is happening is continually requested, though once fulfilled-tear apart begins.
I know where I am at with HLNT and where the stock is at in the stock market "pecking order"-nothing more nothing less. The HLNT crew is working to deliver a product/s to the consumer-may not like current events...but it is trial and error.
Folks let's face it...Don't know too many pinkys where you can visit the facility, TOUCH an actual product (that truly exists), fighting obstacles to bring success.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I believe the next upturn is imminent too, on this (what some people say) Pretty, Outstanding, Stock. HLNT
Lived in Santa Barbara 28 years and now back in Mid-Michigan with lake effect snow as recently as 10 days ago and 83 degrees yesterday. (but love the lakes and seasons). A little time travel, I remember last year about this time you mentioning wood stoves and being VERY cold from your "part of the woods".
Simply, Johnny4profits-I want and do believe...Do I know HLNT's future-No. Will I lose faith in the product potential if there is no follow through in the end-No. This is my personal "risk" investment and first pink-sheet. And true disclosure I feel connected to see it through-though not blind from facts that may not agree with what I want to see and will respond accordingly.
Frustrating-Heck yes. I guess it goes to the questions-Is it possible? Are they working toward the possibility of $100,000,000? Do they have a product/s that could get us there? Why are you invested? And lastly, do you feel lucky???
Very agreeable points (like you said, to some degree), particularly number 3.
The 2013 forecast from Chad, I believe the prediction lies somewhere between attainable and wishful thinking. Again, from a CEO standpoint-With the product revenue potential and what the investors want to hear, IMO are probably the exact same.
I am, what I would consider, an honest person...under the circumstances (all issues considered, fleet interest, military, sea and oil) I would have given the same PR with the same prediction. EX. I have NEVER heard a presidential nominee of the USA say I am going on the road for a couple years, spending much of my money and others, stress my family, and I am going to LOSE. Goes back to DO YOU BELIEVE
Taking our conversation a bit further. Don't you think an average start company (like "new" management HLNT)with our type of product could very easily take 3-5 years to start to truly get moving? Also, that it would be challenging to keep investors interested without having forward looking PRs that perk interest. Can you imagine-"Folks we have a product/s that may take years to perfect, but when it does, we are going to Disneyland". Or people say they just want the truth good or bad (I have said this and my husband), again like "Folks we are working on --- Had a stumbling block and we are going back to stage one". In PINKYLAND!! Who would stay, not many IMO. It is a very fine line to balance.
There is good and bad in everyday life and everyday people. That is unavoidable in life and the same for a grassroots company with potential. IMO there are people really working very hard to have everything come together for HLNT. I know my sentiment can be easily torn apart, I expect that. But I have read and did DD. I choose HLNT, my money, my investment, and yes..my risk. As you have done as well.
I think we all want the answers. With too many unknowns that can be torn apart (negative or positive) this message board is ripe for the pickens, if you get what I mean. In a perfect world we could just debate, and yes...speculate on the message board without the extremes of character breakdown and implication that HLNT is one big scam, and of course, .05 cents by June from the other extreme.
You have been here a long time as I have too. Sad where we have grown into as a board. Discourages newcomers I think...Don't you? Truly don't want pumping either, just healthy conversation replacing innuendo. Isn't that what we are all here anyways.....the prosperity of HLNT (or hopes of!)
Please Johnny4profits-Enlighten me....What are we on too!!!
For a, what you call, "flim flam". A lot of money, time, effort, and personal investment has gone into the product. So on that note, IN MY OPINION, with the disappointing claims,I disagree. "Lily white" most probably not. But then again either am I, falls under "being human".
Must Read--Great post by Moss. Thanks for posting it JSW10011. HLNT
lampchops-You make valid statements (questions). No excuses, but we are here in sub-pennies where shares of "air" are sold. I know more(concrete facts=good,bad and ugly) about HLNT than any other company I have invested in (though will admit have only did my/our investments vs. money manager last couple of years).
Am I certain what is going to happen next? No. Do I believe in the potential of the company (even during silence)? You bet. Do I recognize the risk/reward? That is why I am here.
Good luck to you in all you do. HLNT
My understanding is stock message boards are a discussion forum. A
"Respectful" forum to exchange opinions and facts about a stock (mostly opinions). Hopefully no one is walking away with their take on a stock based on what someone they don't know says and not doing their own DD. HLNT
jjj373-for me common sense dictates...if you have something (a product, facility, infrastructure and future) open doors, if there is a shell, you don't. Know one knows me here, get that, but when I was planning to travel cross country and inquired about a visit, open arms were extended.
As a companhy,conquests, mistakes and disappointments, live and learn, all part of life (for me at least). Expecting that as life experience-my investment is HLNT-Have a good day.
Interesting I haven't heard that. Wish I could be there in ARK with everyone.
Let's face it most here (you, me, and everyone else)no the same information regarding the suit. A few facts with a lot of conjecture added in (story telling to fit our hopes/beliefs/emotional control).
HLNT-Still am, and plan to stay an investor
Glad you see it that way! So do I..Great opportunity to see the production site and headquarters. More than I can say for other pink sheets. HLNT
J4P-Truly thanks for your thoughts. PM
I am definitely out of the loop, DR? Means what.
Heck! NONE of us no (speculation) maybe he was there on business?
SwarmMaster-Didn't see the FB, but an early letter posted by Chad on this board stated his success with his plumbing business (personal money besides HLNT CEO). My guess he is working a heck of a lot harder than our "posting" to make HLNT a success story. Does he deserve a vacation like the rest of us? Most certainly so, maybe more! IMO-The worst I can see of it is poor taste in publishing pictures-Oh Well! live and learn.
Foxwoods Man-Little confused on how a few shareholders going to HTI is such a bad thing. I planned on going last October and was invited "open armed". NDA's for those visiting-IMO has to do with information that has not been readily revealed as of yet to the shareholders. As a growing company with a wide range of forward looking opportunities, is there anything wrong with that (NDA's)? To me that is called "covering their hinder".
Frustrated about lack of PR's-Heck yes! Cause I can't afford to go at this time to HTI headquarters because of time and finances. NO! Looking forward to what those "lucky" shareholders have to share when they get back.
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves now. Alot of speculation by many who don't know a thing.
SwarmMaster-Please accept apology for misunderstanding your post.
Yes, thinking about it, you are right on what Swarm was saying . Frustration is truly in the air too! Penny land is a special place to be, the rules are different. For me, thinking independently and realistically, a start up will have (or should have) alot of challenges, nothing goes straight up. Most penny investors want now, now, now, and like locus' leave (truly not implying anyone in particular).
Personally I expect setbacks and forward moving opportunity for our company. Not preaching to the choir. Just hard to hear bashing post after post. Refreshing would be constructive and respectful dialog and debate. I think we are losing that here! The motives perplex me.
Please read-Message boards are filled with opinion (some facts), but ALOT of opinion (we are entitled to that). Reading posts becomes clear where someone stands on HLNT (that is cool) but it is encouraged to find out on your own about HLNT. "Smoke blowing" and "fear" inspiring, when it comes to my money....means nothing. Truly wish all of you well. I sleep very well at night I hope you can too
Very interesting post being an investor of HLNT. My mom always said, "self prophecy can be dangerous"
Being like you, I call it as I see it. We are in pink sheet land where shares of "air" are sold, with hype, hype, hype. I see a ground floor company with huge potential. With that comes growing pains, mistakes are made, progress can be slow, hard work, and successes are made as HLNT moves forward. That new company story sounds realistic from my eyes and I am a proud investor.
marcg-No PM. Your points mentioned are reasonable and in line with mine. No doubt you and I both have the same DD. Just really comfortable with all people (companies) that have jumped on board with HLNT. AHS has committed A LOT more than I have. IMO-I believe the truly the best is yet to come! HLNT-Jan