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So, can somebody explain what this means in terms of the Environmental groups that have a say in this. Is this a positive article for us pro-mining folks?
That was last year's news. But hey, many here have pumped more $$ into it with that same type of hype. MasterTrader went to an open house (with a few others) and seemed to be satisfied with the "new" 800,000 square mile, state of the art, facility. Where are they now???
So, a recycled Fluff piece should not be anything new here.
You do realize that basic "air" is almost 80% nitrogen, right? Replacing 80% nitrogen with at most, 97% nitrogen... That tire fill scam is NOT what I hope HFBG is modeling after....
I got a bunch of 5's today, well actually about 2.8 million of a partial fill, but still not a problem.. Are you guys talking about a few days ago? Was I lucky to get them?
$19 total transaction? I don't understand.
Why Bold FONT, All CAPS. Kaismaalij. Why....?
just one of the Many things about that poster that irks me all day every day.
LOL, Bux. yeah good to see you over here. That's for sure, nobody is like you. I can't do private, but if you got a second, maybe drop a line, tell me what things you're looking at to help make up for ARTS. I need to look elsewhere to make up some of my losses. Sounds like you've been doing some DD on other pennies. Care to share?
BS! Is this the ambiguous Bux in disquise? Who are you? Nice try.
Maybe I need to leave the sell order open for a few days, cause my .0001 limit order was just sitting there. So for kicks and giggles I took the limit off and tried selling a couple mill at market. Still nothing. Boy this is really setting off some "alarm bells". Wish those bells rang louder earlier on when I was scooping up this crap.. er. I mean shares.
Well, I wanted to sell off a couple million, maybe just as an experiement with how it would be handled and what the sell price would be. I'm holding (Holding holding holding) 24mill shares, which is chump change compared to MasterTrader's investment.
The chances of being a "bag-holder" and never getting my money back is probably greater than my chances of this coming back to life, don't you think? So something is better than nothing, right?
Can't even sell any shares at Market. Don't think there are ANY buyers there. I probably couldn't give away my ARTS shares now, right?
Yep, of my $13k, I've got a whopping $2500 left in my Zecco. I think I'm gonna sell it and take the Tax writoff. At least I hope to be left with something. $2500 is better than nothing, right?
Is that a reality that could happen. No bid, not being able to sell our shares, even at 0001? What is your experience with situation like this?
Bux, how much are you down? I am down, and feel horrible. Misery loves company, and if I'm in the same boat, then I would feel a bit better.
Crap!!!!!!!!!!
Bux, can you explain the 7x8 thing again to me? It's level 2 stuff, right?
ARTS is gonna explode.
Bux, stop while you're ahead. I think someone is setting a trap on you.
Holding, don't have choice to do otherwise at this point. And I bought in at 7's 5's and some 4's. My average is horrible compared to some recently grabbing 3's, but also I am very greatful and humble to the many who have been in longer than me with much higher averages.
As much crap as I've given MP and Bux, ect for their pumping and fluffing, I really don't want them to lose hope. I really am in the same boat as them, and we are all hoping for that rescue helicopter to spot us and throw us a lifeline.
Come on ARTS!!!!!!1
probably sell some, make my intial investment back, then let the majority ride for a much bigger gain. Right?
A little Artsey, don't you think?
dont think Taniuruner was defending the MMs, just saying that it's ARTS that need to come to the rescue of itself and combat this, and other hurdles that they've let creep into the value of this PPS. IMO
Yordy, that's great. Good job on your average.
That's a scary thought, hope you're wrong. By the way, whom do you think, "They" are? Just curious, because everybody on this ARTS board has a different idea of who the "bad guys" are.
That's cool, the more I find out about who you are, respectable family stuff and community stuff, the more I am regretting being such a prickly thorn in your side. MP, I don't have private messaging, and I'm sure you'll delete this , but I'm being sincere.
Go ARTS, please please please turn this around.
Go ARTS GO... Pull out of this slump and make us all proud
That is very truthful, Serafin. If there wasn't any intereste, there would be nobody here to post good and bad.
I'm nervous, Hype-sters like MP and Bux are real nervous. They have significant $$ in this by their own admission. I can't wait for the day when Bux and MP are rich, because that means I've also held on and profited, to a lesser extent, on ARTS. I'm trying to ignore my logical side and just blindly hope this thing turns around. Maybe there is some truth to the old saying, patience is a virtue.
Go ARTS!!!!!
Mine is showing .0003's This sucks!!!!!
They borrow small amounts of money, like $25k - $40k every few weeks. These debts could one day be converted to stock, which will dilute the shareholders.
-Would this explain anything to the high volume and no PPS movement?
"It's got to be one of the worst 10-Ks I've ever seen."
I asked one of the stock analysts in my department to look over the numbers. This is all his email response. Frankly, I don't care how bad he thinks it is, as I am in long, and besides, does any of this really matter if some big news surfaces tomorrow... I don't think it's as bad as he's saying, right?
"-This is from the auditors report on pg 5. This is really bad, it means either they couldn't find a CPA that would sign off on their financials without including this disclaimer, or their lawyers made them include it. This is rarely seen-
--As discussed in Note 3 to the financial statements, the Company’s future is dependent upon its ability to obtain financing and upon future profitable operations from the development of its new business opportunities. The Company’s financial position and operating results raise substantial doubt about its ability to continue as a going concern."
"Although they have been improving slowly, this company just doesn't make much money-
--As shown in the accompanying financial statements, the Company has incurred a net loss of $6,775,386 for the period from February 21, 2002 (inception) to June 30, 2010. The future of the Company is dependent upon its ability to obtain financing and upon future profitable operations from the development of its new business opportunities. The financial statements do not include any adjustments relating to the recoverability and
classification of recorded assets, or the amount of the classification of liabilities that might be necessary in the event the Company cannot continue in existence."
"ARTS has a lot of problems and not a lot to get excited about. Their operating expenses are 2-3X what their revenues are. They would need to triple their sales, while keeping expenses the same to actually make money."
"All the warning signs are here. Their current liabilities exceed their current assets, that's never a good thing. They borrow small amounts of money, like $25k - $40k every few weeks. These debts could one day be converted to stock, which will dilute the shareholders."
Bux, now is the time to let your optimism shine through.
Go ARTS, GO!!!
ARTS ARTS ARTS ARTS ARTS. GO GO GO!!!!!!!!!
Bux, good questions. I am anxious for the answers, too.
The dotTV domain is hilarious, and NO it does not stand for Television. .tv was designated for group of islands called Tuvalu.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.tv
Numbers don't lie, only people do. Are we even sure the figures that are on paper are true? And if they are, then how can they be interpreted in so many ways. Furthermore, I will be doing my own DD and will post, but I bet my numbers and interpretations will be different than everybody else's.
Gambling... er, I mean the stock market, is so difficult to navigate with all the BS that goes on...
Go ARTS!!!
Well I am a shareholder, not a day-trader, own less than 50 mill shares, live in Tampa, and have the right to be critical on a public message board. You call us "bashers" (if you think asking questions, and being skeptical of hype-sters and kool-aid drinkers' constant, rah rah "it's gonna explode today" nonsence) then label me what you want.
Bux, I appreciate your sheer blinded optimism, as I have that in my heart too. I just don't turn on good people who ARE invested who ask NORMAL questions, and are not bashing. Why are you so defensive about people asking logical questions?
On another note, Bux... people typically mock what they don't understand, and your reaction to people being level headed makes me think you're afraid to ask yourself some serious questions. Why can't you answer their questions instead of calling them/us bashers? A level-headed and factual response from somebody like you, who is a constant and valued poster, would certainly gain more trust from us. In fact, I am starved for some real info and facts and, like a lot of good people here, have grown tired of the rah rah. I think you've got that knowledge, and if you have any info, it would be great to learn it from you.
On a side note, I know that everytime I see Bruce Willis in the sig line of a post, I get a warm fuzzy feeling that somebody believes this will do what we all want it to do.
Well, therealliontamer, you're right. It can go up, or maybe go down, or it will stay the same. Those are the only three things this stock can do. You SAY it will go up. I invested HOPING it will go up. We agree, it will all work out in the end.
Yeah, it was kind of a stretch that implied you were digesting whatever ARTS was giving you WITHOUT questioning it.
Suffice it to say, I was wrong. You are right lyrralt. I wasn't formulating my opinion correctly.
Perhaps I did have high expectations, and maybe I am too anxious for ARTS to do something. I don't know what I was expecting for "event" pics, but MT posted his pics for all of us, and that is something that I should be more grateful of.
MT, thank you for going out there, posting pics,, even for little piss-ant whiners like me.
-Oat
No agenda, lyrralt, just commenting on the scary and vacant pics taken in the dark of an abandoned building with lots of wall prints (framed). Just nervous about NOT seeing anything or anybody, or hearing anything or anybody. Heck, MT's answer for not showing any people at the "party" sounds kind of wierd... like he didn't want to take pictures of actual people attending because the film would capture their soul, or something like that.
I wish I never looked at those pics, because they do NOT inspire confidence in me. That is My opinion. Some explanation as to what he was taking pictures of, and some INFO about what he talked about would go along way.
I know it sounds like I'm being ungrateful, but come on... for some people here touting this Open House party for weeks, pumping it up, and now even Ridiculing those who did not attend... I just was hoping/expecting more.
--But I will express a sincere, "Thank-you" for attending, MT. The thing I liked was the great pic of the two little girls (are they your kids, very charming) reading the Rhupert books. That is cool, and as a father and family man, I respect you.