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Like I said the believers will still believe until they want to see the truth.
That makes sense as one of the emails I have from ken mentions a deal with Haiti I don't know if it ever materialized. He said they needed money to get the money from them because it was from overseas and needed to be verified first.
If someone tells me how to do it I'll send all of my emails but you know what? The believers are still gonna believe. I know because I did too. Just do your dd people. The guy that posted the picture of 189th etc st in Beaverton is what finally convinced me. I will tell the sec all I know today. As for the rest of you goodluck I'm still not selling I mean geez do eskimos buy ice? Who is going to buy this scam. Not to mention after you tally all of my buys they average down to like 7 cents a share. I bought some at 26cents some at 13 and some at .001 so I'll just wait it out. And to all the mgmnt at arsc. You don't know how much I pushed for your success because you were laughing all the way to the bank. I plan to work twice as hard exposing you.
You tell me how to do it and I'll send every Flucking email he sent me!!! Headers lies and all!!!!!
You aren't getting it. The 40 mil isn't going to hydra it's going to the new company so it can b on NASDAQ according to him you won't even be thought of for that transaction. You are just like he said in the email just a money grabber short seller. We will all b here holding the bag while they start a new company under conexa or whatever the fluck else they decide to call their next scam. That's what Jim twedt meant by they gotta stick together. That way they just keep revolving the scam and they live with 100,000$ salaries for life
All you have to do is read my posts from the beginning here. I was pretty much arsc's mascot or cheerleading squad all by myself. I lived and breathed that company to the point where I was out knocking on doors myself trying to get sales. Technically I'm part owner in the company right? So why wouldn't I help build my company. I had people with buildings and factory equipment that were out of work ready to jump in helping to get production started. First that and a million$ wasn't enough as the certification machine alone was supposedly 250,000$ so I kept asking more people for more money. Now I'm up to a larger building and 5,000,000$ still no good still not enough to get a factory going. No they never planned on letting this off the ground and I'm starting to see that. As far as the truth though. You font take the stance that I did fir months defending these guys everyday to all of a sudden joining the bashers. I joined them because they are right. As far as the shorts thing goes. I still don't freaking understand that whole schpeil. Just being able to buy something like that if I'm understanding it correctly is a discredit to walstreet in and of itself. Why would you buy something hoping for it to do bad? No wonder our country is in the mess it's in. And thanks alohastate that Alex Johnson is pretty good! Arsc was one of two stocks I ever bought. I will probably never buy stocks again. It's really nothing more than a chopping block where the butchers wear suits instead of smocks. I'm gonna go to college. That's where the real talent is and there are a lot of HONEST ppl there that can use a few bucks to get their business started. Like I said before it wasn't as much about the money as it was the product and the thought of helping someone build what I thought was their dream. I had no idea that people could really be like that. I was warned but I like to try and see the good before the bad.
You know what though? Karma is a bitch. And she's got their number.
I have no freaking clue. Im as much in the dark as you. But something has to be able to be done.
So what do we do now? Ken said he is going to restart hydra under a different name get 40 mil in sales or something like that to fo with 40 mil as he said they needed that much to get on NASDAQ. Then he would start the lusting at 25.00 a share. Some of the older stock holders would possibly get some shares as well but not the latest pump and dump schemes by current arsc mgmnt. Can I put all of the emails from them here legally? Can I put their cell numbers up? What do we do from here?
This makes a lot of sense. Hence the failure to provide actual pictures. I have an email from ken promising a you tube video. Never happened. Why would they want pictures if they were going to change the name. Another thing is this spin off. If you think about it we are currently IN the spinoff. They are dropping the value of the shares so bad in the hopes that everyone bails. Then they can just start over again.
Ugh I still can't understand any of this. I really don't care about the money that much I only used what I was prepared to lose. I wasn't counting on losing faith in human nature. That was something I really hadn't counted on. Don't these guys realize that if they did the hard work and and honest job that at the end of the day they would be rich. That this thing would have panned out. I'm really taken back by all of this. Why would you spend that much time on nothing? What kind of mothers raised these guys?!?! Were their fathers jail birds?!!! I'm totally disgusted! I had so many sales for them and they kept turning me down stating we aren't ready yet. Or get them to give you half up front. A NASCAR team was willing to put them on the car for shares again turned down. We aren't ready.
They don't want sales!!! They don't want production!!!! It's not a bad time for fuel cells!!! That's why they are pissed at me. I was putting a burr in their plan because I was actually finding buyers for a product they had no intention of selling.
I am sending all of his emails now to 5 different people just in case I do disappear.
Going back on them I can't believe the bs that was said. Then it was believable because A I wanted to and B it was closely related to the prs at the time. When you all get to read these it will make you sick.
I can't believe they went from that to this. I'm really curious to see what they do next. I am sure they are sweating right now.
I was pissed off because ken was talking shit about frank and arsc. I believed in those guys and thought they were doing good or trying at least. So I called and left 5 messages for frank to call me back so I could tell him to watch his back as I really thought they were victims at this point of conexa or kens sharp tongue.
After all ken said they drove arsc into the ground but he was going to take it over and maybe include some of the older shareholders but not the new speculative ones
Anyway. Jim calls me back at 11:37 am and I have the phone number. It isn't listed in the ibox so I'm gonna hold out for now as I don't want give it out until I know I can. I tell him what ken has been saying and he says we all need to stick together in times like this. These ate hard times to be selling fuel cells. He said he didn't know if the 21mil backorder still existed. He did say that they have a five thousand sq ft bldg somewhere that they are building fuel cells in but ken said they aren't building anything.
I have emails from and too ken offering a fifty thousand sq ft bldg that he said wasn't big enough.
Here is the real kicker though. Ken emailed me a non disclosure today and asked me three times when I would get it back to him. He called me finally at 7:44 pm I didn't answer. At 7:57 pm I got the email I posted here.
Wait I have tons more. It gets better.
I would like to take a minute to apologize to those who I accused of being bashers.
I truly believe frank bob and ken etc are here among us. They did lie in some of their prs and I wish I knew what to do or who to talk to from here. I know some of the things that were said are now being backed out on.
How the fluck do you not know if you still have a 21mil dollar back order?
They can get around juuuust about everything. They missed a base though.
I need somebodys help here I said before I don't know how these things work. I only ever owned two stocks.
There are some things that need to go to the right ppl before I end up missing.
Please help and tell me who I need to talk too ASAP!!!!!
It is truly disgusting the way they handled things. I am totally blown away. To out and out lie about production and spinoff blah blah blah. Then threaten to report me to the SEC?!?!? Un freaking believable!!! Gimme that f:);)ing whistle!!! It can't be blown loud enough! Assholes!!
Just wait I have about 45 messages of information. If they don't go down for this I'll be surprised.
Wow. I'm totally blown away. Then to top it off they send me a non disclosure!! Kind of late for that!!!
FYI...Both Frank and Bob have been trying to help me acquire Hydra for the past two years as a spin off . While you think you are playing sherlock holmes you are obviously one more money hydra stock holder hoping for fast money..
I wouldn't expect to have much of a future as a dealer for conexa or hydrda after they way you have acted and wasted my time . I really have a problem dealing with morons who waste my time. Any information that I did reveal if you use it I will personnally report you to the SEC.
Ken
and there you have it folks that is an email I just recieved from conexa.
I will be available for any legal questions via my attorney.
But you have all been scammed as well as myself.
Jim twedt just said he doesn't know if there is currently a back order still in existence. That pretty much confirms that. He also said these are tough times to be selling fuel cells. No one is buying them. That pretty much answers that. Well nice knowing ya guys and gals. I'm with lowman.
Just billions of shares given to st George and employees. It makes no sense to me.
There is no production.
There isn't even a factory.
According to conexa
There is no spinoff
There is no back order
Frank has until Monday afternoon. Then I tell all I know.
All should be very worried/concerned. I discovered some things this weekend that if are true no one should buy this stock. If they aren't true frank needs to know about it. I'm just waiting for a call back. Everyone here pretty much knows where I've stood since the beginning. After I speak with frank I will explain in detail what I am talking about. I just want to clarify before I spill the beans per se. It doesn't look good.
I really think those pics are fakes also. Why the different color stucco? The center line of color doesn't match location with the pillar in both shots. It doesn't look like other photos of the same building posted here. I don't believe it's real. Prove it get a address in the photo. And if someone has the time someone else posted a pic of the same building. Someone I trusted then and it was a totally different building.
Wrong again 2hip that's a different company's web site.
Wrong company. As much as I wish it was American hydro it isn't and they have no ties to arsc http://www.americanhydrogencorporation.com/. Is the web site you are looking for
Whatever. Go away
True that!!! The arsc millionaires club!! This time next year?
Just be patient. I have spoken with frank and Jim numerous times because yes even I was a doubter at times in the beginning and every time a basher wether hired or just disgruntled made me paranoid I called them to $itch. Through the course of that I learned a lot and earned a lot of humble pie after learning the whole story. The only reason some of these people are mad here is because arsc isn't your run of the mill pinkie and they aren't here to help mms scam a bunch of people through email ads to buy stocks hoping to get out before they crash. Arsc is here for a purpose and they have a mission greater than just filling their pockets. That pisses mms off because now they can't calculate it as well. They are back to the old days when stocks were more than just another legal scam. Basically let's hope our friends are better at building fuel cells than they are at playing ball with the mms. Lol because they are flunking at that!! It's quite hilarious too!
If arsc does what it has said it would. We are sitting on the edge if history. Hell it could be the next goog.
When i start to wonder about their integrity I have this to fall back on.
About 5 years ago I found out about this company by reading an issue of popular science. I said wow if someone bought stock in acompany like that they would be rich in 10 years.
So for me it is easier to believe as I beat the pumpers. My purchase was pure and done solely because of dd.
I never bought a stock in my life before arsc.
Matter of fact I only ever bought one other stock.
Eeso and turned 1000 into 5. Then in turn dumped all of that into arsc.
I could have known more than I do now as I was given the opportunity to sign papers allowing me to know insider info but it would restrict me to not being able to sell my stock for six months after I put it on the block.
I have seen the cells I know they exist I try to build interest in the product on my homefront and have implemented persons negotiating future purchases.
Then ask yourself.
Knowing that these guys have a viable product that millions will buy. Why the heck would they just settle for a scam of dilution when they hold the potential to make that look like pocket change.
If this were a scam they would have done a lot better job of it. IMO
This is what raging does. I mean geez cmon the name says it all.
I don't know WTF the impatient ones want. Wow we have gotten everything they promised so far.
People seem to forget that we GOT funding. Do you really think that a company is going to put up money to get a product rolling just to have dilution run it into the ground? Wow i mean really wow!!! Go away!!! Go buy some other stock and plague those people with your nonsense. I'm really sick of hearing all the stupid banter about nothing. Shut the $)&) up. If you don't like it here sell ur $&($$&ing stock and hit the road. Otherwise shutup and take it like a man. Wow. Some people.
Why don't you go $itch to the gov about the lottery tickets you lost on too while you are at it.
WE DONT CARE. GO AWAY
This week we will hear something good. That's why lowman is here. He has already heard it through the grapevine. Somewhere in the distance I hear someone shouting COVER!!!!!! Lol.
Sorry : )
I like lowman. I really do. There is no better way to judge a stock. All just my opinion.
Woooohoooo!!!! Lowman is back!!! Fasten your seatbelts boys! ARSC is goin for a ride!
He doesn't ascend from his well u know. Unless things are getting a little too hot for his minions to handle.
You can keep your charts. If lowman is here? I'm holding!!! Wooooohoooooo!!!!!!!
I've made almost 400,000$ with arsc already.
Ummmm. Yes they do.
Sales .... Ken detco and his company.
It cost 250,000 just for the equipment to test these little hotcakes
so right there is a cool mil just to get a building to build them up and running.
Then the cost of supplies. Geez people do you think these parts are free?!?!?
As far as arsc hiring pumpers to push stock here? Lol I asked frank about this site and what he thought about it and he laughed. Just a bunch of people voicing their opinions. Whether good or bad they are all still just opinions. Aaaaand. What Did they teach us about opinions? Lol. Everybody has got one. Lol.
At least we now know the dilution is pretty much over. I sort of expected it and it us a good sign. Just means the spinoff is comin soon.
Freaking a. Frank said that there would be no reverse split. I talked to him on the phone.
He did say how ever that the spinoff would probably be somewhere between a 5 and a 10 to one.
The Europeans he is dealing with were on vacation for the month of august as are most europeans ( must b nice) he said that once they got back which was late august they would get their funds together and by late September to thanksgiving we would hear news first and then letters second requesting our vote on the spinoff ratio. Personally I think more like a 20 to one sounds good. The bashers never change just their names do. Some truly are mad because they have no patience. Some are or were Shorts the rest are just trying to talk you into selling your shares. And the rest? Lol they are in the dog house at home and just need a place to come and &itch.
All jmo. Lol
Ugh go away raging. U r annoying. Arsc is doing great. And for some reason you can't stand that. Why?
The spinoff pr mentions dividends. In what capacity? I'm not sure.
But this is too huge not to pay. I've said my thoughts. Spinoff down to 500 mil shares pps goes to 150$ per share. Each million shares now worth 4+ mil$ then.
Hell even if it only goes to a buck that's 27,000 per mil shares now!!
This is too big to be this cheap. It's just gonna take time. Even president bush said when he was in office that our kids would be living in a hydrogen power supplied environment.
This might take a couple years! Go grab a beer coffee or what ever your pleasure and someone will call you when it's ready.
Don't forget to sign up for the arsc millionaire party when this is all over.
Woooohooo!!!
Just wait!! The next pr is going to be even bigger!
And as far as other stocks having a bid on this kind of news? Yeah those companies don't last. That's why this one is different. It's got battle scars out the wazoo buuuut. We made it. That's the exciting news for me. Not the pps although that will be exciting too. The exciting part is. LOWMAN was wrong!!!!!! Lmao.
Wooohoo!!!
The longer this boils the stronger the BANG!!!!