if you own AFTC now, you're a bag holder. JMHO

notice how baskin not posting anymore ...dumped shares? I'm sure, she was down like 70% or so, 30-40% when she "covered" ....not a smart move to stay in now guys, unless you think news is coming and even then, how much will it pop? better to take the loss and get into something else.

I just dumped 1/3 of my shares (500,000) and it didnt even go down one lick ....It's at the bottom, those who are willing to wait could prosper, yet I think it might be some time before this happens.

Baskinrobbi doesnt work for the company, but I recall her loading up in the .008's and averaging in the .005 & .003, so probably just at a sig. loss like the rest of us, unless you bought in the last month trying to make sure people dont bail (and to be hjonest, I think for good reason)

I'm getting a bit impatient, I DO feel the stock is undervalued, and is bound to head where people are speaking of, I just dont know if making 20-30% (being down 50%) on my money is worth keeping in for months to see this happen, when I have 5-10% returns that I can flip several times each month (guaranteed) with my business ....

I might bail with 1.5 mil shares, and dump 1 million of them, but I might regret later on but not so much when I can flip the 10K I put in 6 times over before it pops.

Also, my reasoning is because last time news popped, we only saw a 25% 2 hour spike and then everyone sold, even in the low ranges. It's going to have to be massive news to drive it up and go anwhere, (IMHO)

This is the e-mail ...so you know there will be positive news, sometime in the future ....when, unknown.

Although not yet announced in the press, we recently received another contract from the US Army for almost $750,000. The objective is to redesign a commercial diesel injection pump (30,000 psi) so that it will tolerate running on jet fuel (JP-8) We have already started work on this project. This information in not secret and is in the public domain.

We have another Army contract that we have also started. The objective is to demonstrate injection of Jet fuel into a diesel engine at 40,000 psi. This information in not secret and is in the public domain.

We are just finishing a project for the Korean government where we are supplying 2 DME fuel injection pumps for both laboratory and vehicle testing.

We are also working on a small automotive diesel engine project in Europe. The objective is to demonstrate ultra low emissions with very good fuel economy using DME as a fuel.

We have several other projects lined up in Europe that should come to fruition yet this year. These are now confidential.

I did receive an e-mail from CEO of AFTC, Jim ....and the next news will be very positive. These guys seem to be doing it right! They already have news worthy material but aren't pumping it ....i've got a good feeling short and long term for this company.

whats his e-mail address?

not sure, ....people been dumping late friday and today, some buys but more games by MM and more dumps ...not what I wanted to see

Looking around there contract white papers from military etc, new news could be a while, but can be great news when coming out. All recent news has been phase I and research but if any of them pan out into phase II or production orders, things could fly ....

only I am uncertain as to when to expect the next bit of news ...I could be looking in the wrong places and this is just my assumption.

great, more games already this morning

whats going on today? 2.5 million volume, bid at .0038 and ask at .0045 ....i dont get it? anyone can explain in laymens

more MM games, bid .0036 ask .004 ...in for another doozy

hope you're right, i have 10K in it, at a 3.5K loss right now, im willing to keep it in for 6 months to see what goes on ....

The big ? is when is potential news, i see it as being a long ways away. I dont doubt it will pop, but im clearing 10% on large caps each week ...if this might take several months, i might consider dumping some on a short pop.

Cheap shares? Everyones been saying this as it went from .006 to .005 to .004 now to .003? Patients is one thing, seeing a gradual grind into the ground is another.

Does anyone have info on upcomming news? From what I see, it looks like any news is months from being out as all recent news has been small contracts that could take a while to see the research through.

Are we expecting any news anytime soon???

I agree ...anything else in the short term is gravvy, but the real possibilities are in a few YEARS, not MONTHS or WEEKS.

agreed ...its going to take something other than a grant or small research order to jump this stock. OR USA picking up on DME as an alternative fuel, (which it's not, hydrogen is). The day AFTC has a real niche and REAL orders, it will jump big time and hold.

The thing is, it could be a VERY long time. I would say at least 6-12 months out before even the possibility, as most everything they're selling now is for research/ phase I projects. They have a long way to go but could turn out big.

I have 1.2 Million shares averaging .0062, so im in the red pretty steep at this point. I hope to see some news in the next few months to take a leap in the right direction.

well the thing is, DME , what AFTC is using, is not a hot topic in America, only overseas and possibly the military. Automakers are interested in hydrogen. Thank god batteries and solar cars fad is over.

To extend on that, people might play this, but only short term when it hits new lows because ppl scared the MM wont let it rise ...as we can all speculate that's happening now.

yes, but it could take a very long time to hit .008, because investors know that the MM are going to play games if it hits there to cover the shortsqueeze ....so I DO see it getting to .008, but the question is, how long will this take?

News today and only up a spike for 1.5 hours, ...typical? yes. But makes me wonder, what kind of news is it going to take to not only surge upwards and hold, but to reach .008? It's going to have to be VERY big news of a real order (no grant or $65K level I contact) before investors are going to increase the volume to the point that they think the MM's wont beat us down.

Do you agree?

and down she goes into the negative for today :( didnt see that coming with 8 mill in volume, at least not that fast ...history shows always has more than a 1 day run, only time will tell.

that doesnt mean anything, he made the comment back in january, ...and he was paid 20,000 to promote it for a month. ....thats done and over with

Red flag, as in good or bad on moving with 55,000 volume?

opps, ill dump half of my 1,200,000 shares

If no news by end of day tomorrow, i dump half of my 120,000 shares

Gainmaker ...has nothing to back up his hype. I HOPE so too, dont we all, but hes proven nothing so take it with a grain of salt.

down she goes again today, sold 1/2 of shares last week, might buy back in if it gets close to .0040

lets hope, because its falling!

Again, are you shaking the magic wand? I guess so, with nothing more than pump quotes ...back it up, I would be more than willing to be in for 500,000+ shares with some information to back up.

GAINMAKER do you have knowledge of news or just pumping? Without some facts, hints or suggestions, I'll take it as a pump till you prove otherwise.

ok so i looked into this for the past few hours and here is where the real potentail news is...unless its something NEW, which from past few years, has all been around selling there fuel pumped, the last PR about 10 more pumps being sold, is really minimal, and more Pr's like this wont move the stock that much ...what WILL

is this line ...

"KIER has previously purchased 11 DME feed pumps from AFTC in the recent past. This new order brings the total to 15 units. Altogether, the Company has sold about 30 DME feed pumps to customers in Asia and Europe.

In addition, a large Asian diesel engine manufacturer recently requested a production quote for 50-100 pumps per month. "

30 pumps total sold, in what seems to be from news archives, two years. thats tiny.

A production quote for 50-100 pumps per month, thats SUPER. Now who knows if this "asian diesel engine manufacturer" is, or if they're just shopping around, but POSITIVE news on this issue could skyrocket the stock, IMO, anything else (a few pump sales here and there) will only keep the day to day going.

just my two cents

I only have knowledge that they were given money for a research grant, for a vehicle ...and that foreign market has plans to create a plant to produce DME.

My biggest question is, AFTC, isnt the only ones making these pumps but I suppose news on the matter could give it some life and if specific news to company, could jump.

I visited there website, and there test facility looks like a basement slap job on an e-machine (for real, they're using an e-machine).

Will hope for news on alternative fuels, and more importantly, news with this company on real orders or future organization.

I'm holding 600,000 at a $1,200 loss, so nothing significant, but it would be nice if the people here would not just say "they've carefully seen news around the internet and have these magical source for PR, but no links or viable information to back this up, furthering the argument for the recent PR pump and dump only news".

All I can see, is the "order" which some have said is only a research grant, not actual orders, however the news says otherwise, but could be translated to a grant without further information to back up the source.

On the "positive" side, its near the 52 week low, and don't think it will tank the 30-40% that it has.

Lets hope so, I'm in for 600,000 @ .0064. I'm down $1,200.

When you say 10 cents and 50 cents, do you mean .001 and .005 or do you mean .1 and .5, if you think it is going to .1 and .5, then just wow. I hope to see some information or news to propel it to this level!

please keep me updated

Did you rub the magic wand and predict news, or are you deriving "EXPECT BIG NEWS" from somewhere more concrete? Please let me know .... thanks :)