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Good post JP, you have it down!
Poptech: not "entirely".
JP: Did you end up buying in again?
No offence but I'm guessing history of NEOM predictions isn't any better.
Frand--also known as "rand" in the U.S.--is an obscure legal acronym that stands for "fair, reasonable, and nondiscriminatory," and is based on the principle that fair licensing of intellectual property is often needed because sometimes certain ideas and patents just need to be shared for everything to work together properly. It's a fairly simple idea, but one that's been rocking the tech industry in recent years....
Several companies hold what are known as essential patents, and are obligated to license them to all the other participants in a fair, reasonable, and nondiscriminatory manner....
The doctrine makes it difficult for one company to use its patents--particularly if they're more essential than others in the standard--to overcharge competitors on licensing fees and gain an unfair advantage...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57371332-94/explained-apples-not-so-secret-favorite-patent-argument/
Good luck then! And I hope you make it big :)
We'll see but IMO your bet is a gamble at best. EOM
good luck with your bet.
keep dreaming.
"Rhetorical as it is: why do so many of us persist if we seem inured to the ultimate lost cause?"
Answer: You guys have a gambling problem so you gamble on NEOM.
ha! smh. EOM
NEOM = 'best kept secret' HA! lol EOM
PR Tuesday. HA!
"from a German perspective"
I don't think it would be wise for someone to evaluate your perspective based on the fact that your German. Your pumping again.
OT: Thanks Big. My wife's name is Juliefema. :)
Do you mind sharing what your initial viewpoint was?
Wow, software development. I tried to dabble in programming myself but I was never able to make it through.
Hi Bigbam,
I'm a retired U.S. veteran and live in the Philippines with my wife :)
I enjoy open discussions and used to "invest" in penny stocks :)
Thanks for asking!
IMO having a "very good attitude" about your investment can actually harm you as opposed to help.
IMO it's more profitable to keep a semi-neutral attitude and remain unbiased.
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a very good attitude to NEOM
in the long term we can to the Moon
It has only begun
I think almost everyone knows that "this share can be used to the monster"
But believing that it will be used to the monster and believing whether it's profitable to buy at this price at this moment in time and how much is a different thing altogether.
I hope I quoted you correctly!
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two of us know that this share can be used to the MONSTER
Yes, your right, everything will be fine but as for investing long-term with NeoMedia, everything has been anything but fine.
You may make a lot of money on NeoMedia and end up rich for that matter but I think there's a good possibility that you'll end up losing almost all of your money unless you change your ways.
I'm not against buying or trading NeoMedia but IMO your "full confidence" in the leadership of NeoMedia speaks for itself.
IMO your not investing your speculating. There is a big difference.
lol, it's amazing how ones perception can change within a single year.
Good post beambe. I honestly don't know what I was thinking when I sighted that other post as a good one.
I've actually learned a lot about reason, clear thinking and practical common sense over these last 3 to 6 months. Or at least I think I have. I guess time will tell.
Thanks for posting!
RE: "But I am SICK&TIRED of trying to be upbeat and positive"
I don't think anyone can discount you for being upbeat and positive but being upbeat and positive about a specific outcome ending the way you in-vision it ending can lead you straight into the drop-bucket poorhouse. And indeed it probably has.
You may be focusing so much on being upbeat and positive that there's nothing left in you to stop, think, reflect and reason. Now let me ask you something:
What is the best way to determine how a specific outcome will end?
A. You should remain upbeat and positive about a specific outcome ending the way you want.
or
B. Stop, think, reflect and reason.
My thoughts on A:
If a million people were upbeat and positive about a million different outcomes and if all the outcomes were completely different, only one person would end up being right. This leads me to believe that remaining upbeat and positive will in no way effect the accuracy of your perception, prediction and vision.
If your profit or loss will be determined by the accuracy of your perception, prediction and vision and being upbeat and positive about the perception, prediction and vision you hold dear has no barring on it's ultimate accuracy what is the point of remaining upbeat and positive about your perception, prediction and vision?
It might all be just a simple waste of time and an expensive one at that!!
I'm not talking about whether or not NEOM is a good long-term investment. I'm talking about your investment strategy, mindset and/or philosophy. Whether or not you profit from buying or selling NEOM the way that you do is IMO irrelevant.
Where will you be in regards to your finances 5 - 10 - 20 years down the road if you continue to make the same type of investment decisions?
I visit this forum for entertainment. I was a heavy long for a few years then popped in and out of the stock off and on for a while and just sold my last bit of shares at .1999 and probably for the last time.
I love the conspiracy theories though.
Thank you.
Julie: Right so this discussion really boils down to long-term vs. short-term trading with NeoMedia and yes I do agree with you that in the long-term this company is very risky to maintain in your portfolio unless you got your shares for next to nothing < .01 and if you follow conservative investment strategies I am sure they frown upon such speculative investments. But for a short-term trader like myself, this stock is GREAT!! Get in and get out, move on.
I'm not talking about whether or not NEOM is a good long-term investment. I'm talking about your investment strategy, mindset and/or philosophy. Whether or not you profit from buying or selling NEOM the way that you do IMO is irrelevant. Where will you be in regards to your finances 5 - 10 - 20 years down the road if you continue to make the same type of investment decisions?
Has anyone successfully reaped a profit for 5 - 10 - 20 years using your investment strategy and if so can it be duplicated? What about other investment strategies? Has anyone reaped a profit for 5 - 10 - 20 years using a investment strategy that can at least in part be duplicated?
RE: " You still have the excitement factor (which ran it up to .28) and since the stock market is largely driven by pure emotions that excitement factor is something you can still profit from"
IMO most of the long-term investors who were excited and enthused weren't able to buy when the stock was at it's lowest (0.13cents). In all their excitement they spent all their money when the stock was 2x, 3x or even 10x's higher. And still there are many more enthusiastic "investors" who never sold at the top after the stock skyrocketed over 1,500%!
When it comes to the stock market it's my opinion that people profit from the excitement of others when they lack the excitement themself.
RE: Julie: You do make some very good points for making rational decisions. Even if we take away market share, how much Neom will make, etc. You still have the excitement factor (which ran it up to .28) and since the stock market is largely driven by pure emotions that excitement factor is something you can still profit from (as long as you have a clear Take Profit amt.). Sound company or not..
The stock market may be "driven by pure emotions" and an "excitement factor" but IMO anyone and everyone who has reaped long term success in the investment community (25 - 30 years) would know that enthusiasm and excitement is a bad thing to experience when your trying to make a wise, rational and common sense investment decision.
RE: "Where is this Microsoft rumor coming from?"
roadog
RE: Juile: Alas a voice or reason on these boards... please see my comments below:
IMO it's better to miss out on making money that others may in fact make then to lose the money you already have.
Disagree: Taking a calculated risk and failing is much better than taking no risk at all if your aim is profit. In my opinion. I would use TEPCO as an example. I bought shares of TEPCO @ 2.88 when all I heard was doom and gloom (granted their situation is much different) and now they sit at > $6. If I was afraid to take that risk, I would still be sitting with what I originally had. This idea is akin to a saver vs an investor.
I'm not against taking risks at all. I'm actually all for taking risks as without risks (like you said) there may not be any rewards. But IMO risks should be calculated, strategic or at least well thought of with common sense, good ground and an unbiased neutral perspective. IMO enthusiasm isn't always a good thing.
IMO there should be one main question when choosing whether to buy this stock or sit on the sidelines: Is it wise for me to buy this particular stock at this particular time for this particular price?
Agree: This is the decision right. I first noticed NeoMedia after the May 27th sprint and decided to investigate the company (not knowing what a QR code even was). I then started to see these codes EVERYWHERE from coasters with beer menus to church pamphlets. Then i take into account the patents Poptech and I love to discuss... and i think to myself WOW this is the steal of a lifetime at this price!
IMO your excitement and wow factor regarding NEOM being the steal of a lifetime isn't very well grounded. There are many many more factors that will work together to determine whether you'll reap a profit or have take a loss then the siting of QR codes.
Even IF Indirect gets say 10-20% market share, 10-20% of say a billion is still very significant!
But your missing one very important point. Will Indirect get 10 - 20% market share and even if they do will NEOM profit from it?
Dreams, hopes, fantasies and all that excitement about what you may make if you buy now or what you may miss out on if you don't buy at this very moment IMO is mistargeted enthusiam that misleads and sidetracks it's partakers from the good thinking, common sense, and the good judgement that's required to make long-term, wise and ultimately profitable investments.
You sound like a follower of Technical Analysis! :) I use this sound reasoning as well with currency trading but i have learned that the stock market isn't always as logical so a 60/40 fundamental to technical analysis approach is necessary in my opinion.
I'm actually not a proponent of technical analysis. If I were to invest I'd prefer to follow investment strategies that have proven to reap success over a 25 - 30 year time period.
And the fundamentals say excitement and enthusiasm around QR codes.. :)
I don't understand what your saying here. What do you mean?
Please dont take my comments as negative as I really do appreciate your honest and rational feedback!! I wish others were the same!
I actually appreciate your comments too. Thanks for replying with an open mind.
RE: "This stock is heavily manipulated"
I think stock's policy is pretty straight forward. Long-term shareholders buy and accumulate what they can and sometimes what's they can't. Traders buy loads of shares at the bottom when the stock is severely over-sold or while it's in play. And by and by through it all YA continues selling onto the open market through the market makers everyone is familiar with.
IMO it's better to miss out on making money that others may in fact make then to lose the money you already have.
IMO there should be one main question when choosing whether to buy this stock or sit on the sidelines: Is it wise for me to buy this particular stock at this particular time for this particular price?
Dreams, hopes, fantasies and all that excitement about what you may make if you buy now or what you may miss out on if you don't buy at this very moment IMO is mistargeted enthusiam that misleads and sidetracks it's partakers from the good thinking, common sense, and the good judgement that's required to make long-term, wise and ultimately profitable investments.
"Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."
it means he's a pumper that wants to say things without saying them so you can supposedly "read between the lines" and get overly excited about how news is right around the corner and how lucky you are that you got the "inside tip" before everyone else. Thanks beambe. thanks for implying you have inside information and cheering on the hopefuls.
Poptech: I hope your not still underwater. That was a pretty big run we just had (20cents+).
To: Laura Marriott - "Those who can, do; those who can't, teach."
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure NEOM has used up more capital developing their app and not developing their app the ShopSavvy.
Am I wrong?
"Only a fool would be holding shares at .035 if he truly thought it was headed for .02 IMO"
Unless the cash out amount is worth less then the cost of doing another trade (selling).
"Those who can, do; those who can't, teach"
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NeoMedia Offers Advice on Barcode Programs
The new white paper points out that not all barcode reading applications are created equal. Some read standard barcode symbologies, like Data Matrix, QR and Aztec, but many companies have developed their own, proprietary formats. Microsoft's Tag application reads only its proprietary Tag code format, while the NeoReader reads multiple formats, including UPC/EAN, Data Matrix, Aztec and QR codes.
I think the right time to short is when everyone believed it was the right time to buy. "NEOM $1!!!" "To da moon!!" etc. Now it might be best to stand on the sidelines. I think shorting can be even more dangerous then buying as you can lose much more then you invested as opposed to only losing your investment. Sure, pps might always come back down but if you don't have the funds to continue your short position when pps moves up, your short position will be terminated and you'll be left with the extra debt in addition to the complete loss of your investment. That's my understanding at least.
"pool or presentation, that is today' question. ;)" - LM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150283321788169&set=a.20522713168.22714.589873168&type=1&ref=nf
WHAT? No way! Your were out with a profit. Please tell me your not going to put yourself through this again. That's insane!