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Just wait for the selling to burn out. I'm heading out for the day, will check back tomorrow or Friday.
Those shares have already hit the market. What do you think is happening now?! Those 7M will be gone tomorrow or Friday. MTP
It's early yet but so far there doesn't seem to be a big push to sell at .0002
If .0003 becomes the spot where this thing bleeds out this can hit .0009 within a week. JMO
I get that but the selling will stop at some point. I still think this can hit .01-.03 within a couple of months. I made a $1,750 bet that I'm willing to be wrong about but we'll see.
They raised the A/S count and are massively selling. At some point it will stop and it will go back up. That's how the game is played. If it sinks too low it just gets that much harder to raise money and there is no need for that. If they stop selling and put out a progress PR they can sell at a much higher price w/o damaging the stock unnecessarily. Not sure why they aren't doing that bc they are making it harder on themselves than necessary. JMO
This has to bottom out. Not going to watch paint dry but I'll hold my 3.5M shares until this moves like it should. Have a great rest of the day folks!
bid/ask order discrepancy is significant. Kind of wonder if .0003 could be hard support. Can't say that for sure but could be. Love to grab some at .0003 but not getting any rn.
Over 500M volume and we aren't even an hour in. Could be an interesting day.
With this volume it should be moving up, all things considered and hopefully we will see that. SMH
Something really unusual is going on here. This is boom or bust and unless you are on the inside running this company you probably have no idea. Seems crazy that this volume isn't moving things up but maybe we will see a strong down or up move in the next day. Not sure what PR they could be putting out but anyone who thinks they have a grasp of this thing and doesn't mind sharing would love to hear from you. I realize it's a total gamble but it's not like my life savings are in it either. GLTA
When are filings expected?
$9M deferred so revenue is in line. Best chance for shorts to get out if they are smart. Once this dips it will run. It's always about the future and the future here isn't a head scratcher anymore. JMO
Depends how much of the deal has impacted the reporting period. Hopefully quite a bit.
He didn't say it was less than originally thought!!! He was giving an example where he said "even if it is less" he doesn't know and did not know the other day either! No one knows for sure. He said what it might look like if compared with the MyLikes settlement, Geez! He is accurate in saying boneheads misinterpret things all the time!
Thanks JJ!
lets hope that isn't the "news" people think is coming.
JJ do you actually think we will see numbers?
coolerheads, am i mistaken that in the VRNG trial the damages we're based upon U.S. revenues only and if that is so had they had patent protection elsewhere the base of the damages would have been higher? If not you are right-doesn't matter.
I got that off the european patent site and it has a "B" classification which they say means that is has been published. I was assuming that means European classification but I could certainly be wrong.
I found something else flyers and am still looking for others...I posted it earlier. Thx.
Doing a little digging on the International patents and came across this from the espacenet.com website. This could be what Ed is referring to. Going to see if I can find other countries this applies to.
"What does A1, A2, A3 and B stand for after a European publication number?
When a European patent application is published together with the search report, it is known as an A1 publication. When this application is published without the search report, it is an A2 document. The search report is then published later as an A3 document. When the patent is granted, it is published as a B document."
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20010417&DB=worldwide.espacenet.com&locale=en_EP&CC=US&NR=6219045B1&KC=B1&ND=4
True Lyons, or they are buying more. Guarantee Edva's group did not buy this for no reason. I am not selling one share until I see how the Markman goes in August.
They don't even have a Markman announced yet. That means when one is announced it probably won't be until December or 1st Q 2014. Have to go where a payday or chance for settlements is sooner.
i didn't say that-what i said is that this will be significantly higher with a first positive markman. This is a very different set up than WDDD but I think both are trading in low territory from what could be expected. JMO
But if they win their Markman in August its a whole different ball game and that is what we are all here for. Or I am at least. Worth every bit of .30 for me to play this game.
No doubt. If the Living Social Markman in August goes well I think someone will buy these guys. JMO
It could be .60 or better on Friday! We're still 58 days away. Not all of these things move exactly the same way. You just don't know. The last month or two weeks could be katy bar the door. Too risky to let these prices go by-Spanky is right.
Totally agree with that Spanky!
bhonda-if we are to believe his last post I would say And More. He doesn't seem to tie himself down to exact dates from what I have seen. I think the one time he did may have been an anomaly.
Everyone of these patent stocks is being f'ed with today. Very interesting!
500,000 shares on the bid, holy crap.
Lyons...where are you getting $5 post trial? Not saying you are wrong but where is that coming from? News of the new Markman is fantastic btw. This bodes well for a settlement or buyout IMO. If Living Social goes down in August no way they or one of the other companies getting sued doesn't settle or buy BCYP.
I hear you but you didn't drag it down and sell at .23 either. My point is someone is playing games and usually the motive is profit so they expect it to go back up.
Of course, maybe but not sure that is what is going on with such a flash move down. No reason to sell now. Where you going to go? No real moves in any of these stocks expected this week. Just my opinion.
Also, this is the kind of move that can backfire. People investing in this patent arena know what time it is by now. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see the demand up today and this go green by EOD or before. JMO
Easy to manipulate. Just lean on the stock at a lower ask and start dragging it down to create panic. My guess is that it is a buyer who wants more at cheaper shares. There is no reason to sell since we are only four months from the Markman. Whoever is behind this just wants more shares plain and simple.
Someone is messing with the stock. That kind of a move down on little volume is a total setup.
Totally agree Tinkerer! And as far as Ed goes there is a big difference between mentioning a new oick and the level of time and DD he has put in on this stock! Long and strong here for sure though I did buy some shares yesterday in the other.
Most people probably feel that way. This is a stock that it would probably be better to just forget for 6 months and come back and look at it then. If the judge doesn't rule VRNG's way on the latest motion it just adds more anguish to shareholders.
you da man Spanky!