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Cartman, how many shares do you currently own of the stock.
That's what we want to know. Then we can judge your opinion....
EVERYONE LISTEN UP CALL TO ACTION SHAREHOLDERS
ELON MUSK IS GOING TO INVEST 100 MILLION IN BEST CCS TECH. LET'S TELL HIM WHY WE ARE THE BEST AND BETTER WITH PRECOMBUSTION TECH.
EVERYONE TWEET HIM AT @ELONMUSK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
Am donating $100M towards a prize for best carbon capture technology
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) January 21, 2021
Any idea what outstanding shares are at? Appears the most recent is 328 million.
Why do you ask so many questions?
meanwhile coal ETF is up 20% this month...all is lost.....yeah OK.
Does anyone know the current outstanding shares off the stock? Is it still 255,000,000?
Do the math, if you think they can book revenue and it makes sense then invest...
Look, I book a 20 year contract at 4 million revenue, 2 employees and procurement costs are 0 because its a license then discount cash flow this company backward? I can get to 70-80 million in market cap quick....
Book 5-6 contracts we could see 500 million-1 billion very quickly...
i think...not tradeable advice just an opinion....that once you have revenue you can calculate a foundational intrinisic value. from there, you can extrapolate future earnings and price in PE multiples.
that extrapolation should put us at a mucher higher valuation.
long story short...company needs to book long term contracts and have true revenue recognition on the books.
is 290m the new share count?
Cartman, let's agree on this one:
it's put up or shut up time. Tech has to produce and speak for itself.
No more delays.
The problem is the company is public when its a pre-revenue stage...you can't do DCF calcs on it until rev is generated thus the valuation.
Greater the risk, greater the reward IMO
that's halirous. yes, let's get davey day trader involved. lol
I bought 48,000 shares for .018 you can blame me haha. :)
also, i would like to do some math and i would enjoy for someone to help me and tell me how wrong i am (as usual).
cartman, want to take a stab? (or others feel free):
so the website says 320 billion tons of low grade coal.
from statistics 320 billion tons of coal is low rank and 80% of the world's coal is low rank...that must mean 64 tons are high grade right? (320/20%)
so that is 64 billion tons of coal are high grade.
so now let's say 64 billion tons of high grade coal in the world...8 billion were burned last year, all high grade as low grade is "not good"
so 64 billion / 8 billion.......8 years. 8 years left of high grade coal........
at the same time, demand will continue to increase as 7 billion will become 10 billion people on this planet within 30 years (don't debate that part, let's say it stays the same just for debate sake)
okay, take a stab and tell me where im wrong.......
im just so excited. we are getting closer and closer and im acquiring more and more shares.
for all of us (cartman i hope you just dont flip shares but "invest" in the company as well) I hope the tech is better than expected and we all do wonderful.
would be great to build the same investor base that apple and tesla has created. I know we all deserve it.
remember folks, 1 billion people on this planet, yes 1 in 7, doesn't have power. China, india, and africa are all upcoming countries that don't have full electricity, let's hope we can help bring that to them in a "clean" way.
Thanks for this AK!
Until RS is listed in a even included as a voting question..it is definitely NOT on the table....
there is literally bylaws in a multitude of funds that disallow this type of investment.....
better sell quick then cartman. ha :)
cartman is a trader not an investor. Good for him if he can time it right.
says who? RS only on table if voted upon.
can't beat down the door to buy shares in a company that is pre-revenue...too much risk for funds...you know this....
lucky to be a private individual investor here and be able to take these chances..
I am an investor not a trader. I'm not short-sited. As warren buffett says....i dont know WHEN to buy...i just know to buy.
i personally see (and again dont trade on this)
the tech being licensed out and so all revenue generated (or a majority) goes to the bottom line.
let's say we charge $2 per ton of coal. Let's say we do 50-100 million coal a year. that's 100-200 million in revenue.
100-200 X a 10 PE ratio is 1-2 billion valuation. thats a conservative 10X.
200-500 million shares at a 1-2 billion dollar valuation is $2 to $10 in price per share.
So why people may complain about issuing convertible debt to the market...i truly don't care as the valuation can easily be 100 to 1. at current prices.
Finally, a reverse split is off the table. Management would have to get shareholder approval for this and i doubt there is any appetite for this from the base.
Long story short: wrap up the plant, test the coal and lets sell some licenses. It's go time.
the following is personal opinion about the tech and i do not advise you to invest in it if you don't want to..yadda yadda...
that said: here's what i believe i know about the tech:
....the test plant is modular in nature.
when someone says the plant isn't commercial and that's a huge risk.....he or she is wrong ...not in terms of it not being commercial but in terms of the risk involved.....
....typically a "commercialized plant" would require a significant amount of risk because you are scaling a technology to much larger in size which typically require much more complexity involved.....
....the difference with CCTC is the tech is modular in nature...it literally stacks with itself.....so when it comes to scaling risk...there is minimal risk... i.e. you just build more of these same models and allow it to stack....so when say the tech works on a modular basis it works...
so 1 test plant in theory shows the tech works at a commercial level. You'd have to study the tech and listen to the investor calls to understand this...
if you get this part you see the risk of commercialization is not there...the real question is....when the process is done and the testing of coal is complete how much will the company get paid for their product...
i believe there are many countries that will want the patented process. 30% reduction in coal use for same BTU and dust-free transportation appears to be a no-brainer.
i can't with you cartman. it's all there.
the company is pre-revenue. they issued more debt that are convertible. shares flooded the market. it's pretty straight forward here.
if you believe in the company..buy the shares...if you dont...don't buy them. pretty straight forward.
my question to you is...why are you on this message board if you are negative? isn't it a waste of your own time?
PS im not personally bothered by the share value as I personally see the intrinsic value much higher. Yes, it's not a DCF PE ratio model.... its a pre-revenue model based on asset valuations and their patented process.
the dilution they can go upto is 500 million, they are 200 million
price is 2 cents, price was 10 cents. i still win.
lets hope not
and yet, here we are, closer than ever... :)
If it improves the tech and a...for example
... 10% dilution leads to 1000% gains than ends justify means in my long term investor viewed opinion.
Wrong again. Great times come when I collect a tremendous dividend...stock split, etc. Not selling.
That's exactly what my opinion is....minus the president. Thanks.
Bingo. Will keep buying in the meantime. Was able to hit my target and now I can go for some icing. Great times.
Garbone, in my opinion....(don't trade on it) all that matters is:
1. Tech works
2. Tech is needed and contracts signed
3. Price you paid for the shares
I'm with you. If company gets valued at 1.5 to 2 billion. who cares. That's 10 cents to 10 dollars. let's go :)
SHHHH lol. <quietly buys more>
I think the Test plant will be built and we will be testing coal before end of year.
Anything less than that then you can call it what you just a said, a dud year.
A few things here:
1. You are right Cartman that there is a concern of further dilution.
Below is the change between 2018 and May 2020.
Registrant’s Common Stock as of date: May 11, 2020: 186,857,749
As of December 31, 2018 the total number of outstanding common shares was 174,427,854 and as of March 7, 2019 the total number was 174,427,854.
Not as drastic the last two years.
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As management had stated they went ahead with the University's recommendations and decided to not go live with the product until the kiln was completed. If their hypothesis is correct than the wait will be worth it.
Better said, if the technology works, the technology works.
A valuation of $1 per share (approximately $200 million). versus 20 cents, is a 5x fold on a 5-10% dilution above. Again, risk to reward.
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Your point has merit. 2020 is where we need to see the final test plant built and testing to occur. I'm still bullish personally. Although it is an all or nothing scenario until we see long-term contracts.
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Everyday passes is another day for me to acquire more shares.
2020 going to be our year.
Bk anytime? Think we go back down to 4s/5s?