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grubmaster, Jesus loves you too and He died for you also on the cross.
grubmaster, you mean iHub is a "state" within the United States of America? Kind of like Hezbollah in Lebanon? I see.
Is iHub constituted under the Laws of the United States of America? Is iHub an institution residing in the territory of the United States of America? Is iHub above the Constitution of the United States of America?
I wonder...
PS. I am a life time member of iHub and I paid with American currency (which was accepted by iHub) for the privilege of the membership, accepting the rules of the TOU of iHub.
My words and the picture reflects what I believe and what I stand for. If that is offensive to anyone, they have the choice to not read my posts, just as I am free to not read any post that offends me and my beliefs. It's called respect and equality. Nothing in my words and/or picture offends any religious group and nothing in their words and/or pictures offend me. I did not create the condition for what I believe to be the only way to salvation, I am only the messenger. If anyone disagree, let him take it with the author. But I will not keep silent or deny my freedom of expressing my beliefs only because it may offend someone. The separation of the state and church was conceived as a mean for the state to stay out of the business of the church and allow people to worship freely the god of their choice.
BTW, there is nothing in the rules of the TOU of iHub that restrains or prohibits the free expression of religious beliefs.
Posted by: IH Admin [Matt]
In reply to: Churak who wrote msg# 24332
Date:8/28/2006 4:33:14 PM
Post #of 24336
Got any good hotel recommendations??
DEATH TO CHURAK
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Matt should send himself to the Jailhouse, unless, of course, death wish is not a violation to the TOU.
grubmaster, is that a confirmation that you are not man enough? You are a pathetic loser.
Dave, restore my posting privileges or terminate my account. Let's see if you are man enough.
bones1420, where is the RESPECT due to paying members of the community who, after all, are puting the food on matt/bob/dave's table and paying for all of their excentric hobbies? You see, it goes both ways.
bones1420, when certain truths are becoming increasingly evident and brought up to the surface, the admins must shut them down, regardless of the cost or of who they hurt by doing so. Matt and Dave are scared shitless about some issues being brought up and actually exposed before the community. And they will never give in to reason, logic, moral standards or ethical behavior. They cannot lose control over the site, rather will go down with it if that is what it takes to cover their tracks.
But there are eyes watching, and files being filed.
"You may not know this as Matt is not one to really wear it on his sleeve or "tell it on the mountain", but he's one of the most devoutly religious people I know."
A quote.
Censorship is the best sign that you are telling the truth which poses a danger to the dictatorial status quo. History is full of examples.
Who said iHub Admins are not accountable for their actions? Ask them how are things going in their personal, financial, emotional and familiar lives. If they would dare to be honest, they will tell you the truth.
I see Chavez is defending Castro, LOL.
Matt/Dave, I hereby, officially request that my account be either reinstated with all the posting privileges or permanently terminated.
You are now notified of my request as of today, August 15, 2006, at 2:58 a.m.
Matt/Dave, please terminate my account if I am not going to be allowed to post anywhere but here in the jail. This arrangement is not satisfactory to either of us.
Thank you.
Please, notice I said "please".
You and Matt have one of two choices:
1. terminate my account and admit you have abused not only the rules that are posted but every rule of decent and humane behavior;
2. reinstate my posting privileges conditional only to the posted rules which apply to each and every member of the community, admitting you have made a mistake and abused and discriminated against many members, myself being one of them.
You can show the community that even you are human beings, subject to the same abilities and disabilities of any human being, hence prone to err and make mistakes, or
show the community that you are above the rules you have created for the members and are acting like gods of some kind, filled with pride, selfishness and reckless disregard for the "mere mortals", which, by the way, are paying your salaries.
Your duties as admins don't excuse you from being wrong.
Posted by: grubmaster
In reply to: Tatari Gami who wrote msg# 70979
Date:8/14/2006 10:30:10 PM
Post #of 70994
My opinion is irrelevant. It is the rule.
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That is one of the most hypocritical statement I have ever seen fron Dave.
iHub is a community that, if we are to believe the numbers that are presented, consists of almost 80 thousand members, mostly investors in different stocks. Evidently, it is a place where opinions are expressed, both pro and con about many companies.
You don't need to be a brain surgeon to figure out thet those who administer and manage the community have a great power over the opinions and positions expressed. And when the Admins are confessed stock traders and/or investors, theirs is a power that can influence the mind and attitude of many investors.
Stock promotion and manipulation, especially at this scale is highly illegal and may even fall into the category of federal crime.
But, I am sure the SEC is quite aware of any possible stock manipulation.
I see the stock promoter is becoming quite desperate in his attempt to manipulate the public opinion regarding the whole CDEX chicanery (after all he was a direct participant in the fraudulent events that have practically taken hostage the investment of thousands of hard working people who deserved more). His shameless hyping is reaching new high levels and there is a hint he is in a panic mode. The SEC has been properly notified of his activities.
PS. all under the complicit and permissive eyes of iHub Admins.
Dave, nice try. But Matilda is spelled with one "t" white matthew is spelled with 2.
BTW, is Dave coming from David, another significant biblical person?
I know, parents have the best intentions and hopes for their children when they name them. Too bad many of them fail to meet the expectations.
Matt, I am amazed, you CAN actually give a straight, forward answer. Of course, if I insist in asking more questions you will be equally honest and direct, right?
If you don't feel like restoring my posting privileges, why keep my account active? Does it satisfy your deep ego knowing that you can hurt someone with your totalitarian and arbitrary attitude?
PS. I still believe your parents were not wrong when they decided to name you after the first Gospel writers.
Matt, I will ask you a question and will respectfully appreciate a direct and honest answer:
Is there any chance or hope for me to get out of here?
Please, don't answer with your silence.
Do we have any options? Of course we do:
1. Forget about the whole thing and take iHub off our mind and bookmarks, or:
2. Get together with the other free and independent thinkers and turn the tide by flooding Admins with complaints against the hypsters and stock promoters activities which, eventually, may come pretty close to stock manipulation and other illegal activities, and:
3. Report to the SEC the activities of stock manipulators and make sure you post a copy of your complaint on the boards.
(Wonder how long this post will be allowed to stay here, but if it is deleted, a copy of it will be posted on a public site)*
*Check my Bio page.
The willingful violation of the TOU is enough ground for either temporary or permanent suspension of a member account. Most of us here fall into that category. But there is a remnant of members who are here for another reason: the message board "economics". Let me explain:
Members are divided between visible and invisible. The invisible ones never get in trouble, never get suspended, never get their posts removed, and never have any TOS against them. From the iHub "economics" point of view, they are the best customers, since there is hardly any administrative time and/or effort to deal with them. Who fall into this group?
1. Hypsters - iHub has no policy against hyping a stock. Hypsters can always claim they are long investors and have the motivation and right to promote the company and its stock. Their posts are always "on topic" since they always hype the company on its message board/s. iHub can never take any action or respond to a TOS violation. Detractors are ignored by iHub Admins. The only exception is made when a hypster is willingly violating any of the TOU and, usually, after a time, they learn how to word their attacks in a manner that it is considered simply a defensive stance.
2. stock promoters - used by the company to promote the stock (there is a debate regarding whether they are compensated or not for their work). Occasionally, the SEC catches them and takes action, but mostly, they perform their duties with impunity.
3. Dumb "investors" who have fallen into the lies and deceit of hypsters and stock promoters, and defend their "investment" by approving anything that tends to hype and promote the company and its stock.
The visible members are a pain in the neck to iHub Admins, especially since they have to deal with huge amounts of TOS', complaints through either public posts, but mainly through PM. They consume a great amount of administrative time and effort and burden the iHub "economics". Who are they:
1. Savvy investors - usually they see the real picture and express their opinions based on tangible and verifiable facts. Evidently, their expressions are a danger and a nuisance to the hypsters and stock promoters, who don't want certain "truths" to be exposed and/or revealed. They gang together and submit incessant TOS violations and private mails to the Admins, flooding them with their outrage against allowing "negative" aspects of the company’s operations being disclosed. Any inference of ignorance or ill willed effort to hype the stock (mostly a true fact) is considered a personal attack or insult, and Admins have no choice but to take action.
2. Investors who have seen their equity reduced to ridiculous levels and make a rational effort to analyze and evaluate the reasons the company and its stock are performing so poorly. They look for and find documented and verifiable reasons of management incompetence and expose it as they see it. Again, they are a danger to the hypsters and stock promoters and are consistently tossed and complained against.
3. Investors who have been invested in the company and have decided to exit, not before expressing their displeasure and discontent for the poor management of the company and reckless disregard towards the shareholders and their equity. Unfortunately, their anger and frustration is not always expressed in civil terms. Any attacks against the company and its management is taken by the hypsters and stock promoters as a "personal" attack and reported to the Admins as such.
4. Pure and simple bashers, who have nothing better to do than attacking everyone and everything (again, there is a debate regarding whether they are compensated or not for their effort)
In a nut shell, you are a pro company man/woman, hype and promote the stock and carefully use the language (labeling any adversary a basher is a favorite and it's not considered a personal attack by iHub Admins). Or, you are an independent thinker, try to be honest with yourself and other members, say what you think and feel about the company, the investment, the hypsters and stock promoters, but encounter the opposition of the "protected" hypsters and stock promoters and suffer the consequences of their gang-tossing and massive PMing, until they get away with them.
And iHub is simply applying the "economics", voluntarily siding with the hypsters and stock promoters.
How much for my freedom?
grubmaster, why isn't my account permanently removed? Are you afraid that I may expose iHub's arbitrary and to a certain point illegal activities by refusing to comply with the basic human rights, especially when a member not only has paid his subscription but has followed the TOU to the letter and has exposed whimsical violation of iHub's own rules and regulations?
Discrimination is illegal in this country, especially when free expression of ideas and opinions is concern.
Tell you what, the only reason that keeps me from initiating a campaign against the abuses of human rights on iHub is the decent and civil presence of Bob Zumbrunen who has shown more tact, decency and concern for human beings than any of you Admins have. It's shame that you taint his impeccable image with your despotic, tyranic and whimsical manner in which you conduct yourselves on the boards.
Matt, why am I here?
The TOU are useless and they arbitrarily change based on the mood of the Admin, who is the first one to violate them.
"No good deed will ever go unpunished"
Hey Matt, how about a birthday present you let me out?
Thank you, lmorovan.
!!!HAPPY BIRTHDAY LMOROVAN!!!
Matt, let me out and I will only post on my boards.
We were, we are and will always be held accountable before a higher authority for everything we do, everything we say, everything we think and everything we feel. Whether we agree or not, it is a reality that no one will escape, eventually. And most importantly, no excuse will be acceptable or accepted.
Matt, will you be able to overcome and defeat your worst enemy, that is, your super inflated ego?
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. But humbleness is known to be able to control any abuse power may try to cause. Who is in control of you, ego or humbleness?
I see INET6 is taking Matt for a ride, He's back with the alias "high C", LOL.
Matt, let me out please, I offered a decent deal.
I promise to only post on my boards.
Matt, take my offer and let me out.
The picture is becoming clearer as we go: ValiMed is out of it for now, while the law suit is settled, so a new carrot is being dangled before shareholders. A virtual barrage of posts regarding the MethGun is flooding the "airways" to keep the hope alive and quelch any attempt by shareholders to hold management accountable. CapnMike is at the helm and doing a good job so far.
"Those who stand the most to lose, are doing the least to prevent it from happening."
Matt, I offered a deal. Let me out.