Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
The pie is expanding. The pie for fast PCs and ultra fast GPUs is expanding. Intel needs 2-4 years to beat AMD in CPUs, based on some rumors, except if we see something really interesting with Alder Lake. And it's first GPUs seems to be mediocre by today's standards and especially by 2022 standards. Being competitive with 3070, as it is rumored, in 2022, is not going to excite anyone.
And if Nvidia does not buy ARM, the X86 architecture gets a few more years before ARM architecture becomes an equal opponent. Nvidia is NOT going to invest a gazillion of dollars on an architecture it does NOT control.
$122.....damn, that's beyond crazy.
Investors probably see what I was dreaming 11 years ago. A small company that can get 50% of CPU market share and 50% of GPU market share. Considering that Nvidia is at 500 billions valuation and Intel at 220 billions, AMD could go 3 times higher than where it is now.
I sold 200 shares at $110 and I was feeling smart that day that it passed that price for the first time(it dropped to $108 latter). Now I am just smiling feeling happily dumb for selling those 200. Got more of course.
PS
I had a few years to log in at investorshub. I logged in a few weeks ago and the first thing I was informed about, where two replies to my posts here. A couple of HUGE investors back when AMD was at $40 something, warning me that I should sell before the price drops back to $20!!!!
I always had this question.
People say about Sanchez, that he have to do something, ought to do something, if he doesn't do something he will regret it in any way imaginable.
Well, I do not live in US and I do not know who Sanchez is and what business he does and how much money he has. Just what people post here.
Here is the question.
Does he care about AVVH shareholders? And if yes, why? If I was him, I would probably don't care. I would be looking at AVVH shareholders as some who bought shares many years ago and those share gone to almost zero or some who bought shares now because of the hype.
Both probably made some money, some too late to the party got burned. A typical stock market story.
I don't believe he cares, I don't believe he even acknowledges the existence of AVVH shareholders. If he is a busy man and really rich with important business running every day all day, AVVH is probably something he doesn't care about. probably an employee of him is doing what is necessary and by necessary i mean necessary for their business, not some shareholders who bought shares 10 years ago or recently because they hoped to become rich in a week, month at the maximum.
So, to be honest, I don't see anything positive in the future. Whoever made money here made money and maybe in 10 years again something could happen.
Hopefully I will end up wrong. I do keep shares and if this thing goes to $1, I would be extremely happy. Maybe build a new house in my mother's village. But, I doubt.
Here from, don't know. 2009, 10, 11? Anyway bought when it was 0.003 or something, kept them forget them, enjoy looking them at 0.1, it was like someone come outside my door and left a bag full of money, waited a bit longer, reading all that stuff about dollars, but to be honest, had read them in the past too about other stocks that in the end gone to zero. And as it was back then when i was looking at otc stocks, any negative post, even based on reason, was attacked from people here hoping to see the stock higher, or just trying to keep the stock higher for their own personal reasons.
Anyway, AVVH can go higher from here for one and only reason. Sold half of my position a few days ago. Usually that means share price going up :D
Just an advice. If you have a gazillion of shares and you are still on the green, sell enough to cover up your expenses if you don't have deep pockets. Stay with free shares. You wouldn't care about those if they go to zero. If they go to $1 or $2, you will just become less rich than compare to having kept all your shares. But if they go to zero and you are not wealthy, that will be painful.
130.000 here. Compared to what people say they have, like millions - and no one knows if they really have them - I am not that much important. Still those half shares I sold made me a $3000 profit and those 130000 left, are FREE.
Yes i can see that. And the future, that is not in those charts, will hit you like a train.
If you have zero knowledge about PC hardware, stop shorting. Stop destroying yourself from an economic point of view.
If Intel comes out with truly functional 10nm, you might have a point.
if Intel comes out with truly functional 7nm, you might have a point.
If Intel comes out with a new architecture that will let it create high core count CPUs as easily as AMD is doing with chiplets, then you might have a point.
Until then you are burning money. Your money.
Everything is simple really. AMD is a bubble, but a bubble with a future.
Right now AMD is enjoying a technological advantage over Intel in manufacturing, thanks to TSMC. Combine this with the high demand for x86 processors and Intel's inability to cover demand and we can expect only good news from sales of desktop CPUs.
Add to this the new Ryzen 4000 series for mobiles and AMD can steal even more market share from Intel. Where AMD was far behind Intel, was in power efficiency, especially when a laptop was just sitting idle. The 7nm Ryzen 4000 series will address much of the problem here, bringing AMD much closer to Intel than ever before. This means more laptops with AMD CPUs in them. Add to that the much improved performance, thanks to Zen 2 architecture and the support for much faster memory, which means much higher performance from the integrated GPU, even while that GPU remains Vega based and we can expect not only more laptops, but also more ultraportables and gaming and high performance laptops.
Anyway, the above is just a small example of what is coming.
Just to keep this post small.
Intel will keep trying to squeeze big cores in 14nm for the rest of the year. That means 380W TDP for just a 10 core CPU(high performance desktop). Translation. DOA.
Intel may have desktop CPUs based on 10nm by the end of the year. If they don't they will be in deep s.....t!.
Intel may have 7nm CPUs by the end of 2021. If they don't, well I can only pity their shareholders. They could even change the name of the company to Titanic. In that case AMD is going at $100+.
All new supercomputers are based on EPYC processors. This is NOT a coincidence.
Consoles. They are coming and they will sell like hotcakes.
Graphics cards. AMD only needs more capacity from TSMC. When it gets it, it will be in a position to flood the market. Right now it's just playing it safe, with a few 7nm cards and most of them priced higher than what people who know about hardware, would have liked. But 90% of consumers will just buy them anyway.
AMD only needs to keep hitting it's financial targets. Those targets will keep going up every quarter, if 2020 is as good as 2019 was.
So, is AMD splitting up? Going private? WTF is going on with the latest rumors? Good news? Bad news?
Elections.
I don't know what they will do. I think another R/S is not going to happen in the near future, but that's a personal opinion. Of course it is another thing a new recap and another thing a r/s. But even a new recap it could end up just as a bad rumor and nothing else. The results for the first six months that they just released are more than good. 1.14 billions thanks to the "deferred taxation"(this is google translate, I don't know if this is also the correct term in English).
It's in Greek. I did gave the link for the site, bankingnews.gr, now the specific article I don't remember it exactly but he usually posts the same tables about possible recaps and prices in many articles. Well, not always the same numbers. Occasionally he changes his predictions which is a good reason to have many posts in the comments that he is lying, but on the other hand in the stock market what you through in one moment it is totally different with that you think the next one.
Latest rumors about recap share prices for NBG, IF there is a recap, talk about 1.5 to 1.8 euros. Do your maths.
Of course these are rumors and the site I am looking to (bankingnews.gr) looks a little more biased than usual - and too much anti-NBG, but many times ended up being correct (at least when they where talking about disasters, when there where better days they where usually missing them).
I see new people here with charts from the last century and dreams of double digit price. At least we have an improvement. From the crazy dreams of 40 and 50 dollars of the past, we gone to the hilarious 99 dollars.
Anyway simple maths for you.
Number of shares: 3.533.149.631
Multiply this with 99 dollars.
Market cap with 99 dollars: 349 billion dollars.
Source:https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=el&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=el&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.euro2day.gr%2FQuotesDetail.aspx%3Fq%3D144&edit-text=&act=url
Don't swallow anything you read. Just blacklist anyone who throws a bait at you with double digit price dreams.
JMO
Have a nice weekend.
OK this is a liiiiiiiiiiittle late response. About a month.
About politics. The left party is still first in the polls and the financial minister is doing his best to send even more voters to that direction.
We also have the Presidential election in the first months of 2015 that could lead in parliament elections, because what Greeks do best in periods of peace, from ancient times, is to divide and start hitting each other(does anyone know about ancient Greek city states? I guess Sparta rings a few bells). The possibilities for the government and the main opposition party to come to an agreement about the person who will be elected as president, are lower than ...zero.
As for the banks. Latest rumors talk about another recap, about 5-6 billion euros. There are two thing you don't want to know. First how much this is in dollars. Second how much from those 5-6 billions are considered that they are needed from NBG.
Best case scenario that 5-6 billions will be wrong and the final number will be closer to 1-3 billions.
This is getting boring. Rumors that the Greek banks need a few billions more. And those rumors say that they will prefer to do another recap from shareholders than borrowing money from HFSF.
Do anyone feel like a caw that it is getting milked a little more than usual?
- What is 100 bankers in the bottom of the ocean?
- A good start.
Greek stock market opens many hours before the US stock market so you will have an idea if the results where bad for the stock market or not that bad. What I know is that this week I am touching nothing. I am waiting to see first the election results.
For anyone who cares and wishes to have an early look in Monday, check the picture below.
What you want as an NBG shareholders.
Syriza not to be over New democracy more than 3-5 points.
Olive(PASOK) not to be below 7 percent.
Olive + New Democracy combined to be over Syriza.
If all 3 happens in my opinion stock market will have a party.
In case that New Democracy wins and Olive is over 7 percent stock market will have more than one party. It will go back to 1300 points and NBG could go close to 3 euros.
Just speculations. JMO.
Stupidity is all over the place here in the Greek stock market officials. Forgive my limited knowledge but IF I am right this is what is happening. Those who participated in this recap, will take the new shares in 3(?) days with 2.2 euros each. So they are selling today shares that they don't have but will take anyway in a few days.
I think this is naked short selling. Right?
As I was saying for about forever, they are the biggest name in Greece - at least in everybody's mind - but they where one of the two worst capitalized banks (if I am saying it right). They needed more cash. The recap that was done in 2013 was just NOT enough.
So, second recap, dilution and a promise to sell a part of Finansbank in Turkey.
Add to that the political uncertainty here because the second political party in the government, PASOK, is going to hit the floor with it's face really really hard in the coming European elections and you have also a political bomb that could explode any day before or after 25th of May.
It's a mess. And of course the price has gone UNDER the recap price of 2.20 euros with an over 10% drop in less than half an hour from the opening (2.16 euros now).
Fortunately for me I am only losing my warrants value which isn't big anyway. I stayed away from the stock this time.
2.2 euros the price of the new recap. 2.59 now.
The only questionmark is the result of the elections in 18 and 25 of May. If the government survives without major problems, then the share price could move fast over 3 euros. But that's just a speculation.
Mullins and Beema day today and they look much better than everyone was expecting.
AMD just announced a goldmine for the mobile sector and not only that considering the AM1 platform.
Latest rumors point to a 2.2 euros price for the new recap, so the price seems to move in that direction, losing more than 4% right now.
2nd recap. 2.5 billion euros from private investors IF it does happen because many reject that. HFSF will lose money like it is losing with Eurobank's recap.
Anyway if the recap is approved we could see about, if not more, 1 billion extra shares in the market. In other words dilution is going to be pretty significant.
We just wait for the price for the new shares. 2.5 or 3 euros.
Nothing out of the ordinary here. Typical negotiations like all those others the last years.
Wait, hit the brakes. NBG gone up for two reasons. Mainly because it is the ONLY bank that come out and said "We are not doing another recap" and secondly because euro has gone up (it is getting close to $1.39). But the fact is that they need 2.2 billion euros and there are still many questions about how they are going to cover that.
Thanks to the "No recap" news many are pointing the share as a "buy" with prices from 4.2 to 4.5 euros which means from 5.9 to 6.3 dollars. But you should be careful with any future announcements about how NBG intends to cover that 2.2 billions from the stress tests.
Also in 20/3/2014 we will have the financials for 2013.
Looks like they need 2.2 more billion euros based on the latest rumors about the stress tests.
A! a question because I AM a noob.
When you are talking about 32 millions what do you mean?
HAHAHA.... yeah right.
This is what I wrote about two years ago to someone pointing that they only had 3 millions shares after the 1/20 R/S
(oh my God. Two years? When? How?. Time passes fast.)
post #627
LOL. I was expecting the dump after today's pump, but not so fast. I guess some people wanted fast money for the weekend and unfortunately many decided to give them that money.
Instead of looking where the share price was a few weeks ago and think that it will go back there, just check this company's past. Name changes, dilution, reverse splits.
6 millions volume? My God people, don't throw your money into the toilet.
JMO.
If I remember correctly you are out of NBG right?
Maybe you should stay that way, at least a little longer. I am not sure about that, but IF the rumors are correct, Blackrock was good news only for Alpha and Piraeus, not for Eurobank(2.7 billion euros) and NBG(2-2.3 billion euros).
I COULD BE WRONG.
Financials? Who cares about financials?
7? Really?
:P
25 May there are the elections for those who will be send to the European parliament and the elections for Mayors and regional governments(I hope google did an accurate translation in this one).
So until then the uncertainty about the governments stability continues. Fortunately from a stock market point of view, with a little more optimism (bonds are down compared to 20 days ago, so stock market and NBG are up).
Now in those elections everyone is expecting PASOK to get destroyed but keep it's consistency. The question is how New Democracy(main political power in the government) will do against SYRIZA(opposition). If they lose with a small difference, that will be good ot at least not bad news for shareholders. If they lose with a big difference or PASOK breaks, ....you don't want to know. If pasok breaks we could go for elections for new government. You really don't want to know ( $3 anybody?).
Financials are fine when talking about stock market of course and they could play a positive role moving the share price maybe back to $6, but for $7 or higher I believe it will take time and many positive (for the shareholders) news in the political arena or/and positive news from the market (upgrades for Greece from Moody's etc.)
Been here, done that. There are pinks, bad pinks and really really bad pinks. In my opinion OGNG is not in the first two categories. It was a good run that one over .30, I could have sold my old shares and recover half my "investment" here, but I haven't really "invested" that much to care about. I just left it there in case it was pumped much higher. They didn't, who cares.
I see the number of shares traded going up, share price going down, maybe in a year from now a new R/S that will bring the share price from 0.002 back to 0.05 under a new name?
Maybe yes, maybe no, don't know, who cares?
JMO
Aren't there any laws in US? Promoting the stock like that when you have done 4 reverse splits in the past doesn't seems right.
Security Notes
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 10 split. Pay date=12/12/2002.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 4 split. Pay date=9-8-03
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 3 split Pay date=09/25/2007.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 20 split. Ex-date=06/08/2012.
Not to mention 7 name changes
Company Notes
Formerly=Organa Gardens International Inc. until 6-2012
Formerly=Shotgun Energy Corp. until 4-2009
Formerly=Avalon Energy Corp. until 9-07
Formerly=Avalon Gold Corp. until 3-05
Formerly=Iceberg Brands Corp. until 9-03
Formerly=Precise Life Sciences, Ltd. until 3-03
Formerly=Asdar Group until 5-02
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/OGNG/company-info
I also checked an older post of mine #1065
From there I can see that my suspicions where correct. They had 22 million shares back then. Now? 27 millions. Maybe they are investing. Right? I am sure that they are investing. What do you think?
Float 27,441,862 a/o Nov 06, 2013
Mantle in the news today. It looks like that older dual core and quad core systems are going to get a second chance in gaming with AMD GCN cards and Mantle. Mantle doesn't look to change the hi end where a top intel and a top nvidia card possibly will keep being the fastest option, but the rest of the market will have a very good reason to go with an AMD GCN card.
Whatever optimism there was in the first days of 2014 it is gone. I don't know when things will get better but there is too much uncertainty. Also for the first time opposition is in front in latest polls with a clear advantage of 3 or more percentage points. This makes investors and the market even more nervous. This is a fact that someone can easily see looking at the spreads going up
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/GGGB10YR:IND/chart
This isn't a pink. And from your post I think you have no idea what you are talking about. So, it is not their problem if you are gambling your money in stocks that you have no idea what they represent.
Greek banks where destroyed because of PSI+, like Cypriot banks where destroyed for other reasons. The coincidence here is that Cyprus is preparing to exploit it's oil and gas deposits, while Greece also is in a preliminary stage to do so. Another thing about Greece is also it's thousand islands that can be used for tourism and energy(from sun or wind). Just a coincidence that all bad things happened now. I am sure.
Anyway you have everything wrong here. Manipulation happened just before the R/S and that was done to warranty a succesfull recapitalization. If there is any manipulation now is by keeping the share price high, not low. There is also no selling of new shares. You have it wrong if you think that NBG have less shares now than in the past. There are much much more shares now. 2.396.785.994 to be precise. Yeap, 2.4 BILLIONS.
No. The graphs were the whole story. Unfortunately the latest official reviews show a chip that didn't evolve in the cpu performance part. Bulldozer architecture is as bad as Pentium 4's in the end. All bets now are on Mantle and HSA. Especially Mantle.
The good news here is that all hardware sites I have checked are keeping a very positive stance toward the chip. They where very harsh against AMD with the reference 290/290X cards(thank God for litecoin), but in the case of Kaveri it seems that they are trying to show the glass half full. This is really good.
How about thousands in Greece? You are not alone :p
Usually we are waiting for the next derby between Olympiacos and Panathinaicos(in about any sport) or Aris vs PAOK in football(soccer) to see a little violence. There are some times protests that go wrong like in any other country, other times because of the protesters, other times because of the police being more aggressive than they should be. In places where tourism is the most important thing, the worst case scenario for the tourist is a strike in ports or airports. Even if Athens is in flames and people are dying in the streets(just a sci fi scenario) people will still celebrate in the islands.
But the best and funny if not hilarious and also 100% accurate advertisement about the people in Crete, about what you are expecting and what you get in the end, is this one
You go at the hardware forums, you go at the hardware sites, you even have a dialog with authors there who like AMD.
Well you will see the word "survive" only in a paragraph with AMD's name, never Intel's or Nvidia's, or anybody else.
That's the problem. The markets are moving the stock price up or down before earnings based on their expectation for the current quarter. The day after the earnings report it is like starting from zero again.
Graphs don't need translation.
Anyway my apologies for upsetting you.