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UPDATED; Well I guess that would be rather disapointing to hear, however since I haven't heard it directly from either the Paxton boys or from BEHL I would just have to chalk it up as a rumor since it can't really be substantiated. Not that I'm calling you a liar on this, it's just that I personally don't know about your source of information.
Furthermore, I personally met the Paxton boys after Dennis made his statement about the employees having shares and neither they nor any other employee I met said anything to the contrary.
So I guess that until we hear from either party directly, that is all we can say about this matter is that it is nothing more than a rumor.
You heard wrong pal, I spoke with someone within the partnership over the phone this morning and was told what the problem was and that it was just a temporary inconvenience. See how easy it is for information to get wrong. Everthing is just fine and dandy at BEHL HQ and at the the DVJ project as well. Anybody can call for themselves right now and see for themselves.
So Bphilli, is there any earth shattering news to be found here regarding BEHL and their new partners at BNPD. I understand that this a BEHL board, but since they joined in a venture with BNPD, is O.K. to talk about both companies here? Can anybody update me on anything here for discussion?
You've got it gaa, and it really doesn't take much to see that BEHL has passed the critical phases and are now on thier way to closing more and more contracts. The demand for the finished products is great and we can produce the purest for lowest cost out there. That's why others in the algae field that were looking for the holy grail for oil are now turning their attention to what Dennis has realized years ago and are now following this mans lead.
What do you mean this is not happening without a reason? The PRs put out by BEHL have not been about fluff as has been the opinion of many bashers here and at other places. This project has been PRd for over a year and has been in the planing for over two years. A project of this nature and scope takes time to come to fruition. If you don't believe me, then look at Sapphire, Exon, and others. Look at those that used up tons of government grants and then folded, like RWE and many others. BEHL is ahead of everyone thanks to the leadership and faith of its share holders as any company that succeeds is.
Thank you sir, and a good morning to you also. I have to take off for the post to take care of some work but I thought I'd stop in here to remind some people reading this forum that not everyone posting here is talking about what they actually know, but rather what they are guessing about as is expressed in their humble opinions. I have been to BEHLs HQ and found the team there to be eager to answer any and all questions resonable, and to safeguard the family jewels (company secrets).
The company stated that they are planning another open house house next year. This sould give everyone plenty of time to prepare to make it out there.
Try e-mail, if that doesn't work, then maybe you should try snail mail. I don't know what your past contacks with BEHL were all about or enven if you had any, but there are may of us who don't have much of a problem. There have been times when They haven't gotten back to me either, but I don't sweat it as I don't get back to everyone who tries to get a hold of me either.
No need to take my word for it just as there is no need to take your word for anything. To satisfy yourself for positive proof, make an appointment with BEHL, you will find them very accomodating and they would be right there to answer all of your other concerns.
This all seems to wheigh heavy on your mind and BEHL can answer all of the specifics and you will have the answers straight from the source. Take the time to reseach where the answers are and not rely on second hand reports as that would only leave you with more questions and I have other things to do. I did my DD, I'm happy.
Your disapointment resinates strongly about your obvious diaspointment for you and the rest of Palm Springs for the failure of capturing BEHL and the farm. Furthermore, your concerns for the enviroment seem to be blown way out of perportion considering what BEHL is actually invoved in. Now we both agree that we can get ethanol from corn, sugar, soy beans, ect., but that doesn't mean that you can load a truck up with corn, sugar, soy beans, ect., and dump the stuff on the ground and ecpect any trace of ethanol to leach into the ground. No, what will happen is that after the vegitation breaks down, the soil becomes enriched with the compost.
To be realistic about what BEHL is doing is to accept that BEHL is only doing simple farming, agriculture. If you go out to DVJ and foget about installing the liner in the basin and just lay the tubes on the ground, grow the algae, and then empty all of those tubes on the ground, the only thing that is going to happen is that the majority of the water in the tubes will soak into the groud and filter out threw the process and the remaining water will evaporate leaving the algae, which is nothing more tan vegitation, to lay on the surface of the ground and just die. No har4m to the enviroment what so ever. The only thing left would be compost unless you just left it laying out ther in the desert in which it will eventually just turn into dust.
As in any business, BEHL has experienced set backs that can be reasonably expected from any company,especially a start up company like BEHL that is breaking new ground in a new industry. To say that in your opinion BEHL has a history of lying, seems very inflammatory and unfair in light of the continual progress they're achieving on a daily basis ahead of everybody else venturing into this new industry, especially Big Oil, and other companies being funded with deep pockets and grants. As you said, you weren't at the open house, that's too bad because if you were then you would have been able to check for yourself, on the spot, that all of the needed permits and licenses were in order. This was all there to satisfy the inquisition of all those in attendence. Work being done where no permits are required is of no consiquence, moot topic, and is a waiste of concern.
You can rest easy now in knowing that Dennis does indeed have all of his ducks in a row and BEHL has everything in order. If you would have taken the time to visit at the open house which was open to all who registered, you would have been able to verify this and all other concerns you may have for yourself as those of us in attendence have done. As a matter of fact, you can still call HQ and set an appointment to look into these things for yourself. BEHL is very open and transparent in this matter for all of us investors. In fact, if anybody else is concerned about this matter, then I'd advise them to make an appointment also. BEHL is not a secret society. Call BEHL Gummy, and set yourself at ease.
Yep. BEHL committed the sin of trusting in others to comply with their end of the commitments and for that BEHL seems to attract the attention instead of the fakes who pretended to be something that they weren't. It's all part of growing a company from scratch and doesn't really matter now anyway cause BEHL is past that and now has real deals in hand.
What's a promess?
What if the liners fail? Still no basins for containment. Again, What other sites do you protest on against enviromental hazzards?
One other question, since algae is organic and BEHL is just growing natural strains, how is it more enviromentally dangerous that farmers who grow crops? You do have me wondering.:]
Why blame it on just one piece of the puzzle when there are many pieces? BEHL is growing, that is a fact. It may not be growing as fast as it might make you or anyone satisfied, but they are growing none the less. Compared to where they were last year, they are looking more promising to me and many others and thus warrent our support. There are many other conpanies out there who also are startups having a difficault time but are growing as well. Time will tell if our investment was wise, and BEHL has over 7,400 investors willing to bet on them, and that is what investors do. It is a gamble after all.
Seems like an honest obsevavation but nothing in regards to the success of any business is easily explained or packed neatly into any box. There are many things involved and each rely on the success or failure of the other piece of the puzzle to form the true and complete picture. In the cases of companies that rely on selling sells to generate capital, each of the participants have a correlating effect of the outcome that cannot be ignored. You seem to point to the delivery of expectations from the company that the success is hinged on while the ability to deliver by the company may hinge on the cooperation of the other parties involved. In the case of BEHL for example, we have had other companies come in promising a successful partnership with BEHL only to go in other directions. Is it BEHL fault?
I wasn't talking about permits, but speaking about permits, so does BEHL, just check with all of the agencies involved. Re-read the post for a better clarification of what I was asking GFB.
Are you also as interested in other algae companies, especially the above ground open pond systems that pose more of a threat to the eco system according to your ideas of the threats. If you look at the pictures of any of those you will note that none of them are set in containment basins to protect the environment as BEHL has the foresite to do so. Could you post other sites to these other companies that you post your enviromental concerns to, or did you just single out BEHL, and if so, why just BEHL and would you also mind explaining why you think this industry is a danger to all living things. As a investor in this industry and member of this planet I am very interested in your thoughts.
Update---Why thank you sir for pointing out the discrepancy of the information pertaining to the photos, however sir, I did not post those pictures. I'm having a great deal of trouble with my pictures and have yet to get any of them posted. If you should go back to the other board you should find that I posted a different discription of what I noticed about the water pipes. I saw no connection to the PBR set up with the pipes, just a guess of what I noticed at the power pole and the water hole.
Keep up the good work out there and keep us all posted.;]
Updated---Now that BEHL is activly engaged in setting up the PBR in DVJ, what are your thoughts? Do you think that maybe they just might have a chance to meet or beat the Dec. target date for the six million dollar purchase order that RWE decided to back out on and leave all of the proffits for ourselves?
I am a little puzzed to the question of, if you are a share holder of this or any company, why would you not raise your concerns with the company, and file acomplaint against them? How do you figure that by you filing a complaint will benifit the company, your position as a share holder, or the other share holders?
Wow, I thought that maybe you would be a little more open with us. Is ther any particular reason that we should be aware of for not giving us the complaint number?...
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Did you file a report on the evidence that you've seen? Would be very interested to hear about the reply you receive. Would you mind sharing it with us all? How long do think it will take for any action to be taken? Are there any other reports we should be aware of?
Question for you sir, if Dennis Fisher PRs that he set a goal to accomplish an objective that involves the participation and coordination between BEHL and another company or more, is Dennis Fisher obligated to complete that task as is only possible to do with what is at hand for all parties involved, or is it manditory that he accomplishes his stated goal or goals in the time lines determined by either investors or observers of the companies activities?
Yea buddy, I'd say that your not alone, and so would a whole loy of other investors in a whole lot of other stocks that are in the same boat as BEHL.....
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Wasn't the DJIA above 11,000 just a short time ago?
It seems that BEHL is not the only company facing hard times in todays market climate.
It was reported that certain information was left out of the origional papers and was discovered by BEHL before the deal was closed. Had something to do with water issues, water rights, something along that line. Mandatory stuff that was suppose to be included in disclosure information by law but was left out.
Maybe some people aren't aware that stocks are down all over the BOARDS......
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Isn't it funny how the same people who keep bringing up RWE think that the shady Palm Springs deal shouldn't be brought up.
Nope, done waited too long for a comeback. Don't need no more rolebacks. Hoping this BEHL train left the staion of sub penny flats for the last time and is heading non stop for NASDAQ juncktion.
Don't forget that the new contract entails that it is with a company that has an international market and they have first dibs on any and all the algae we can produce. Once we have that contract, we then have a buyer for algae for all who come to buy PBRs, and futhermore we also collect sales commisions.
Yeah eminem, I remember when Gummy posted the same picture of this same company but neither of you brought up that if you look deeper into the company, they are in research and development ant are looking for and and are having a hard time finding funding to pursue ther R&D. Furthermore I thought that all of that open water their tubes are submerged in were of a grave concern to GFB and others here. I think that BEHL beats this R&D company out on all points noted on this forum about BEHL.
As you look at that side of the coin and see what might be obvious to you without the benifit of proof to back up that statement, wouldn't it also be fair for someone else to look at the other side of the coin and say that it is obviously someone trying to make up their shorts at the end of the day, without any more proof than you?
Promise? Did you say PROMISE? Please show me where anyone PROMISED me (as a share holder) any reports. I must have missed that. I saw no PROMISE of any kind myself. Thank you in advance, will wait for your answer.
Then wouldn't you also say that by observing the behavior of a specific MM who consitantly keeps the bid and the ask below what the average buyer is willing to pay and has been paying on a daily basis considered very suspicious if not manipulating?
So, within that logic of yours, of BEHL shares being traded as they are, the PPS of BEHL is being manipulated, am I correct?
Here is an opinion of some profesionals who are not only professionals in this field but also in this industry who have what might be considered a more realistic formula......
http://www.oilgae.com/blog/2009/02/500-per-gal-omega-3-vs-3-per-gal-fuel.html
$500 per gal Omega 3 vs $3 per gal fuel – Algae for food or fuel?
February 19th, 2009 | No Comments | Posted in Algae-Fuel, Algae-Fuel-Research You are at: Oilgae Blog.
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A press release couple of months old, but very interesting, so included it here
New Algae Oil Products Valuable as Nutritional Therapy for Triglyceride and Cognitive Benefits.
A recent international peer reviewed publication places a question mark on biodiesel from algae oil as a current business model for commercialization. In contrast, the report points to established leadership and commercial viability in nutritional oil markets.
Is Algae Oil Fuel or Nutrition? New Algae Oil Products Valuable as Nutritional Therapy for Triglyceride and Cognitive Benefits.
Chapel Hill, NC, December 10, 2008 — Very high levels of polyunsaturated fatty acid triglyceride side chains may be the obscure reason why even after nearly 20 years, largely by the US government agency NREL (National renewable Energy Laboratory), that algae oil research has yet to strike oil for fuel commercialization.
The report identifies polyunsaturates as an obstacle that can accelerate oxidation, polymerization, and gum formation in combustion engines. These and other issues may ultimately be preventing certification of the final biodiesel product for commercial sale, despite the high per acre yield potential when growing algae oils. The near term value of microalgae oil may not be cheap fuel, yet the global value of algae oil has just started being realized in nutrition products.
In addition, three dollar per gallon biodiesel is nothing compared to the five hundred dollar per gallon wholesale value of nutritional omega-3 oils made by algae. Currently, C. cohnii and Schizotrichium sp. microalgae oils are sold in the open market with FDA approvals for consumers and infant formulas, each granted strong safety designations as natural food products sold worldwide as bioactive nutraceuticals.
Incredible India may be the future for algae oil research. Published in the Indian journal Everyman’s Science, VOL. XLIII NO. 3, Aug – Sept ’08, Pg 164-168, on behalf of Indian Science Congress Association, the article titled “Is Algae Oil Fuel Or Nutrition?” was written by Scott Doughman, PhD and Srirama Krupanidhi, PhD, each with The Department of Biosciences, Sri Sathya Sai University, Prasanthi Nilayam, 515134, India. While with the Department of Nutrition, School of Public Health, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, 25799, USA, Dr. Doughman established the basis for a new company called Source-Omega, LLC.
The company was formed after Dr. Doughman first published a review of algae oil clinical trials; Doughman SD, Krupanidhi S, Sanjeevi CB, Omega-3 fatty acids for nutrition and medicine: considering microalgae oil as a vegetarian source of EPA and DHA, Current Diabetes Reviews, 2007 Aug;3(3):198-203, Bantham Press. Currently, the company’s docosahexaenoic acid therapy is promoted as a clinically optimized nutritional support program claiming docosahexaenoic acid is associated with a reduced risk to onset of Alzheimer’s dementia and cognitive decline and that no other long-chain fatty acid can demonstrate this benefit.
Source-Omega, LLC, Chapel Hill North Carolina, USA, is currently a start-up located near the Research Triangle Park specializing in the branding, marketing and globalization of algae oil products as a leading internet distributor of products under the brand names PURE ONE™ for triglyceride lowering benefits and OMEDHA™ for protection from cognitive decline, promoting health and wellness with clinical docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) needed for every stage of life. The company manufactures DHA supplement products as a sustainable vegetarian source of DHA omega-3. For more information on Source-Omega visit www.source-omega.com.
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How long can we blame the same thing for a tanking share price?
How about for as long as they are practicing the short selling?
PROMISE? Who said PROMISE? Could you show me where Dennis Fisher said "I PROMISE YOU"? The only place I ever remember those words from Dennis Fisher was to the city councle at HB when he promised them TAX REVENUES. Show me where Dennis Fisher said to me, as an investor, "I PROMISE".
Aren't you over exaggerating by a whole lot? I mean they only set up their first PBR just a year ago. I hardly think that qualifies as forever. Not only that but the first PBR wasn't the finished product they had in mind. It was actually just a prototype to show the investors and the world that their concept does indeed work. Sure they had things to work out with it,so what? What did you expect? Fisher had Shen working on most of the design and we can all see that all Shens work and materials were crap and thats why there's nothing left of Shens short existance.
That took time to work out and most of us over 7,000 investors can understand that. That's why the 7,000 share holder count is staying strong.
It took a time to relocate HQ and again, most of us 7,000 plus investors can understand that.
Remember, over 7,000 plus investors do take them seriously.
You are very mistaken if you think I don't ask questions. I do ask questions. I've posted them on an open forum for the recent radio interview and I also e-mail the company. Why should I waste time asking questions on a forum to things I want to know from the company? Of course I didn't invest in the posters, either here or on any other forum but just as I go to the company for answers I want from them, I confront the posters when I want answers from them. I'm just holding you posters up to the same standards that I'm holding the company I invested up to.
What you seem to fail to understand from me is that I can accept that things change from day to day in business, and in the case of BEHL it doesn't mean to me that BEHL has been doing all the changing.
It just seems to me that every time a LOI or JV doesn't come to fruition overnight, everbody wants to put the explanation on BEHLs shoulders as if the deals fell through because of BEHL and not because of the other party. Furthermore, just like DVJ which has been on the shelf for over a year, other LOI that posters are crying about have not yet been deemed dead, either by BEHL or the other parties.
Help me out here. RWE, where did they go? They sold out. Where did they come from? They were a group of guys who only survived as R&D through grants and then they sold out when the grants ran out. Their buyers backed out of the JV not BEHL. Big deal. Let's move on. There are plenty of other businesses that will be, and are coming our way. Remember, this is a start up company. We just sold our first PBR. Wait until the first harvest before crying failure.
Yes, lets keep this on the open forum. What do you mean by saying that I make no sense. Like you said, you use the word PROMISE. All I want to know is where did Dennis Fisher PROMISE anything in the PRs?
I'm not trying to argue anything! I'm a share holder in BEHL and as such yes, I am pro BEHL. What's so hard for you to understand about that? Is this suppose to be a bash BEHL forum?
You keep saying that BEHL made me PROMISES as an investor and I just want to know what PROMISES.