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Here is a thought - stop so that all your friends can get in as it drifts back to .01 - then let’s all do this thing. I will even help! But there are 2 brokers who will not let you buy this right now
The pump is on I guess...
Not accurate- 2 bill outstanding
I am having considerable difficulty rationalizing the valuation here - With 2BILLION shares outstanding....
So I gues I answered my own question - or other posters did...in my 1hour wrinkle in time.....
This is near around the time he started on the boards.... someone I am sure will research that...
Since he do not hear the recordings, is it against Drago, then possibly as carrot to his flipping? Could that explain the gap...
...going for bigger fish?
That would be a great addition to the story... a twist... lol
.... again. They used to be public about 10 years Ago or so... I used to trade that..... see if Baltia - as bad as shape it was - was currentit could be able to follow a similar path -
But no -
I have held off responding for quite sometime.... I am one who has been left behind. I consider myself fair in the face of both positive and negative bashing back and forth.... I ignore most posts because the repeating of the same drivel by the same people is well, a waste of time.... I for one actually made money on this company even though I own shares now.
I am extremely disappointed but not really shocked by the recent turn of events. I thought the idea was a great idea and it still is. The execution was so poor. I think that any business can succeed if run well. This was not run well.
Was this all a Russian laundering scheme to begin with? Did it start that way then Igor thought he could pull it off? Is this why even selecting the lapel pin was painful months? Was the FAA jerk from the original JFK submission on the take? Maybe a rival faction organization?
So now I am left with this- SEC - please - for the innocent, allow Baltia to stay solvent. Let us elect a new board. Let us retire Igor’s Johns, russel’s and Barry’s shares. That should be enough for us to have the capital to get the financials done
As much as you all want to gloat or bash about what has happened, there are many more that have lost a lot here.... who speaks for them??
Patriot place is literally steps away from me every day but I could not tell you what is going on with brady, gronk or Bill B
So does the SEC pass out nightly briefs on your way home?
So you’re saying there a chance!!! Lol
Please stop..... even as long as I am, there no defense for what is going on here. There is only the continue opportunity provided to those who wish to complain. And the cheerleading just looks silly
Thank you...
Anyone who owns it now....
Now sounds good...
The surprise if the decade is that we agree... reality has stopped, tine no longer exists
Honestly- this is not saying much....
Actually- it’s a bad comparison....
I would rather have 1 plane than 8 on a Cert that allow up to 10... that way you can establish your own fleet...
Doubtful. You will still need to expect the 8k. The financials are a separate beast in my opinion. They are already super late so why not hold off a little longer. Focus on the next deal instead. I am sure the financials are closer to done than we all expect, they were just the secondary priority. No matter what dumb threats about delisting were made here...
My gut is telling me - that this is a persuable opportunity. And if so, financials will be sure to follow as they would be important for any financing. I would also expect that private financing may also be obtained that the investor may rely also on the business plan ahead rather than the holdover Igor/next guy issues of the past. People do not invest in history, they invest in the future.
Funny. You see it the way I do. AerLine sells 7 of 8 planes, but leaves behind 1 plane and the Cert. the relationship with Visconti exists. It also gives good rationale as to what happened to the million deposit. As much as the uninformed have debated the wording of every document, there is plausible belief that the million is still there waiting for the better opportunity. NDAs exist for these reasons, but the what if also exist that perhaps Tony knew what he was expecting to happen and it took AerLine a little longer than expected to execute its piece- being the sale of 7-8 planes - for the BETTER opportunity to arise.
You are now left with an opportunity of buying one plane and a company that has an international cert for up to 10? Thank you AerLine for clearing the decks....
Barry and Russel’s shares should be clawed back in my opinion... especially Russell. He was worthless...
Please tell me you are smarter than believing a post that Tony works in a restaurant....
And as a business owner, you of all people should know what it means to bust your butt for people who work for you. Especially is they were also shareholders. Show a little respect. Demonize Barry and his golf game all you want... but when it comes to the company, leave the 5+ year old trash behind - kind of what NY/NJ people did after Sandy.... I mean, there was so much lost in that flood.... pay it forward
Are you sure about that statement? Are you sure you know exactly how the section 13 rules apply in this scenario? Are you sure you know all the steps that were taken as they were taken and that the blame if any is solely on the whale? I would rather have an educated discussion than a libelous one. So please be careful with you statements and how you interpret historical actions. Let’s not blur timelines from a few years ago...
First off - if insider sales happen - we would know about it as they need to file. So there is no dependency on financials - of course this is a simple and widely known fact
Also if it was not for the whale, his wife, and mother - then there really would be no baltia - with or without Tony. So please keep then in a higher regard... they have actual skin in the game with direct purchase for a majority of their shares which is so much more than any of us can say.
Lastly - the SEC was too easy on Barry. He took advantage of an ignorant Igor.(rip). They should have forced Baltia to cancel his shares issued. In my opinion, these shares were deceitfully obtained. - this is wher the pendulum swings to pissed off. And he is not the only clown to have some sort of clawback applied...
I have been very objective over the years. I would say reasonable, with swings on the pendulum from happy to pissed off.... the pendulum is clearly swung into the happy stage and I expect BLTA to keep it there for a while....
Ask buddy Barry.... the way I see it... over the last couple of years that statement has not changed. So they could not have spent much because 125 has been a constant value used.
Better yet. Anyone who bought open market really has no claim to that statement. The 125 only applies to those who buy PP... and many of those bought real high... .08-.25 and still hold... Fact....
Exactly. Interpretation. No poster here is qualified to dictate that determination. It is up to baltia - correctly or incorrectly
Lol. There are rules and there are interpretations of rules. I do not think that the rule explicitly states that Baltia needs to 8k a deposit refund. THAT is the difference.
But the rules can be interpreted by any one any way... with varying degrees of application and severity...
So maybe you are right and maybe you are not... only one true source to answer the question - and WE are not that source
Yep... that’s my point. Your question goes both ways... and if one was not part of it one would not know....
So... we on the same page? I am not jamming you up, merely pointing out the BS of definitive positioning in a third party argument
No one knows!
The requirement of an 8k for this activity is debatable.
Is it a significant event? Maybe... Maybe not.
I think too many people rely on 8ks in order to determine their own DD - like Tony’s bathroom break schedule....
Are you sure? Did he tell you that? Does it matter? Regardless of what else happens. I am sure the financials will merit the the vulture picking on it’s own... good times- when people make stuff up as to why something occurs rather than just that it did....
Fact is this... financials will be released when they are released. Since these things tend to be a historical record of sorts...then many open questions will have further perspective to be twisted... but some questions will be put to rest, they will be current, and confidence will change one way or another.... that is how price is impacted. Reactionary.
Either way - if you are correct- getting financials also means that good need is here... because u were told that...
The article proves my point. They don’t have the intent of personality to control a market. People assign a personality to a 4 letter broker as if the personality traits draw character. But they are all the same. And as much as the story is enjoyable, I question significantly the story or 1980’s trading in a digital world 35 years and a technology revolution later. Based on MY experience, these levels are much more order matching that you think or the story teller is portraying. He is right,that is the way it works... but that is the point. Even the MMs are matching orders in an electronic environment..... there is no “here comes XXXX... that means the company is diluting” bs type stuff
Breathe..... that way you won’t pass out from the excitement when you see it....
go ahead and sit on the bid. Zero harm in that... rotation on sting hands is beginning.
Please... MMs are not a Person or a group of people with intent... it’s an electronic exchange .... smh... but go ahead - try and convince us.
You were probably match filled by a client using the same broker. Houses tend to fill internal offsetting orders prior to open market orders....
Incorrect. Those claims were made about a week ago. Foolish... but true
With all due respect. That was not me and not a comment I would ever make. I believe it is safe to say that even though I hope for the best, I am not out here pumping tires... I don’t like that much the same way as those who slash the tires... I am wise enough to know that any publishing would be public. I did not bite on that. The letter is significant, if it exists, and my research shows either it hasn’t or those I ask do not know about it. Simple
You made the claim. You provide the evidence....
I have looked on the SEC systems and so no records of this letter being mis represented as fact. Post the link and back your statement up
Because Baltia is the topic - as it pertains to Baltia in my humble opinion.
Success is defined by many factors - of course- correct in the assessment about P&D behavior. Although met with ultimate failure, this year saw the closest opportunity to fly. There is no real failure when you learn how not to do things, and in that regard, I believe that there was a learning experience gained that will apply in the next opportunity.
I disagree about the complainers, one can point out certain vendetta based references, especially when referencing the activities of a certain lawsuit or a certain seller of shares. Boards have morphed over time, and i believe the two boards are opposite ends of the pendulum. Given any positive thought is shredded with almost ignorant malice. However, i do agree that there are certain people who are of rational response and equally engaging. Of course, there are those who are also blindly pro, if only to offset the inherent negative.
My point on Fidelity is that about 40% of micro cap investors use fidelity as a platform, some under mandate, such as myself. I cannot use another broker for reasons I will not get into here.
For Baltia - since this is the topic - In my humble opinion....
My outlook for 2018 is completely positive, but cautiously so. I do expect there to be significant movement on all their fronts. Reality vs. plan tends to warp a timeline, especially when faced with counterparty demands. I do expect that the Audits will be published when the time calls for it. That would probably be when they are prepared to take the next step. I expect some questions will be answered, and some more will be open, but the ongoing battle of HOW it got done will drown out the that that it did get done. The release should close the books on many historical misrepresented assumptions, and go to establishing the future tone for the company, that is best when you are certain of your next steps, so why release now?
I say to those in the grey area, hang on. Make small purchases to lower your costs... Regardless of the end result, manage your financial exposure and loss wisely, and bet on a conversation at the end of the year that at the bottom line, you will be financially better off than you are today...if we close out 2018 at .0030 or better, how are you not? I have bigger thoughts on that though.... My money is on a continuing improving company, there are too any people behind this with much more at stake than to let it die
Funny stuff... buying on bid only leads to declining price when supply exceeds demand. Which is a normal part of the production cycle. When supply is nominal bid has no impact to price. When supply is exceeded by demand, bid impacts price positively
I thought Visconti was CEO of Songbird?