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I guess you have "inside information" on what the problem is. Care to share? But if you're gonna say it's Doc Whitney because some people told you he's an arrogant control freak, then don't bother replying to my question. Pretty much any and every start up tech company has been run by arrogant control freaks. I'm focusing on the business plan, which seems to be moving ahead. See, I allow for bumps in the road, especially where gov't red tape, permits, and registrations of virtually everything but where you buy your pencils are involved. You can't wait, Alien? Not a problem...just zip on back to Uranus. Have a nice flight.
Most people are smarter than we give them credit for, Terry, as you well know. Itronics is not building a bridge, where "someone" with no patience and an agenda can say on a daily basis, "look, the bridge isn't built yet!!! Why isn't it built yet???"
Itronics is building something organic; something that will constantly evolve and improve and get tweaked, and eventually A LOT of smart money and A LOT of folks who understand it's value will take notice. When they decide to move, so will the share price and so will those of us who had it right.
Those companies that can't produce organic growth will want a company that can.
A smart guy once said, "you can try to time events, but it's still better to be early". So we're early; suits me just fine.
Hey SoldierHard, Hey Kajulie, Hey Twilko,
I get one phone call, er, one "hey" per day, so this is it.
Too funny, huh? Write the unadulterated straight facts from a company's website and get the ax. Then another guy writes all kinds of slander and name-calling, and NASTY stuff, and he's okay to keep doing what he's doing. Have to smile, life's too short.
Best wishes to all of us!
GLTA, too.
Hey Terry,
Thanks for the "thank you" over at Yahoo re Stage 1. I couldn't finish, and I couldn't reply to your thanks either...lol.
Here’s a guy, John Whitney, with a PhD, with multiple patents and proprietary processes, with a going concern, with green technology, with advanced technology that will help the mining industry’s leaching processes, with leases on property that have potential for lucrative finds, and with fertilizer processes that have been proven to increase yields on everything they’re used on. (I probably missed some things as well.) What’s my point. I just finished reading “The Intelligent Entrepreneur” by Bill Murphy, Jr. (not Bill Murphy of GATA fame). The book follows the stories of three folks – two guys and a girl – who went to Harvard Business School (“HBS”) and went on to become multi-millionaires. HBS certainly helped as an incubator of entrepreneurship and a support system for folks with ideas about how to succeed in business. But they “succeeded” in business by trying, not by skating, and they had an idea and were passionate about it. The three started “dot coms” in early 2002-2003 and they almost went broke before securing enough investment capital to weather the bad economy and the ups and downs of their business models. The stories are fascinating, and I would recommend the book to everyone, including Dr. Whitney. I’ve been an Itronics shareholder and supporter for about 10 years now, and I have NO INTENTION of bailing on it, but I’m amazed that a company with such assets, both real and potential, can’t secure investment capital and can’t grow the business that seems to have everything an investor is looking for - and more!!! I’m just saying... and I really do recommend this book to all.
Squeezing every last molecule out of the process is what Fedd wants, Terry. Is that too much to ax? I thought silver were only 99.9999% pure, but leave it to our resident idea guy to find some more potential. I really wish I wuz that smart. Then again, it must be a curse to be waking up in the middle of the night to scribble down another great idea. Rumor is Fedd got this latest idea from when he strains the organic dog food he buys. He's kinda particular about getting that 0.0001% filler outta the mix. If only Doc Whitney were a dog lover, then he'd understand about that extra 0.0001 and how important is be to Fedd.
99designs.com is one such site.
You're right, Fed...the ITRO case is looking good based on what Mr. Badway told me. I took your advice and rang him up - but on the other ph # - and he had some interesting insights. Won't go into them here, but glad you suggested it. I see it's after midnight, so it's already today instead of tomorrow, which means my 1 per day limit is kaputski...and it's only 29 mins after midnight. Zucks for me...lol. Happy Thanksgiving to all us Itroes!!!!
You're welcome, SH. I wasn't being rude what with not replying to you...lol...but I'm down to one post per day (I guess I was too rude to Fedd for the liking of some...lmao) so I was gonna save today's post to flap my gums, but it's more important that I say "you're welcome". Best regards and GLTA.
Hey PinkPennies...I'm just gonna take a guess here and say that the chart you're looking at has been converted to the post-reverse split share price equivalents for the entire time line of ITRO's public company existence. In other words, comparing apples to apples now that the reverse split has taken place, but I could be wrong...lol. GLTA!!!
Is it possible Itronics is really a front
for --- "the company"?
"May" have a $3K write-off, Cartsoon?
If you sold ITRO then you should know the exact amount of your loss, eh? If you didn't sell yet, then whatcha waitin for? Unload dem shares and buy sumpin wif some UPside PO-ten-shul, yea?
Hey agNau...here's an article about QE.
Enjoy the day!
http://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-quantitative-easing-2010-8
Hey dcor, I read your post about the MMs and it was good stuff. Thanks for the post. GLTA.
Spot on, Terry...and it's pretty much common knowledge that the ETFs are a tool of manipulation as well, so the laws of market supply and demand have been constrained for a long time now. Hey...what's that swimmin' up river? Kinda hard to see...it looks like a, hmmm...is that a duck? No, it's a...a swan? But it's a black swan! wtf!
There is no liquidity to exit a large position all at once, but you can exit it slowly...drip, drip, drip...yes? That way Itronics and Dr Whitney will still have access to your insights, and perhaps they will take you up on some of your better ideas.
You're right Fedd...there ARE no guarantees of better days...so sell your shares if you can't deal with it...it's just that simple. You bought, the price dropped, move on to your next big thing.
You're welcome, Terry !!!
Will ITRO be a guaranteed payday? Some people might think so but I don't, which is why I don't watch the pot every hour to see if it's boiling yet. I think it will be a nice nest egg down the road, but that's just my hope, which i hope everybody understands...that it's just a hope. Listen...how many "blue chips" are still on the DOW from the original 30? Damn, if you can't count on a blue chip, then the sky is falling, right? My point? There's no sure thing. You would think most folks here would get that...that there's no sure thing. When somebody says they think it will be a nice nest egg, that's hope bolstered by the business model bolstered by potential. That's it...and I can live with that. I don't need anybody to gar-on-tee me anything, because there are no gar-on-tees. You would think folks would know that if they're reached the age of majority.
"Short-term play" is a relative term and if ITRO was at the stage where their multiple revenue streams were crankin', well then I'd be pizzed about the lack of progress. But given the R&D that went into this project over many years, and given the fact that VC money isn't what it once was back in the heyday of Wall street good times and the dot com era, well I choose to give ITRO the benefit of the doubt and I can wait. I don't need this to finance a small business or to pay off my mortgage. If somebody figured that would happen, well that sucks for them. We can all dream, and I've certainly dreamed (and mentioned) how I would have loved to sell a few mil shares at $2 or $3 and sell the rhino horn and make a bundle with the rest of my shares, but that's life with a sub-penny/pink sheet stock situation. My investment horizon on this is unlimited because I believe the model is unique and the potential is there for a nice retirement nestegg down the road. Short-term can certainly mean a year or less for the newbies, but I don't think anybody can make the case that this is a mature company with organic growth, so as much as all of us are frustrated, I've decided to not waste energy on the why, when, how and instead I'm gonna wait to say "Thanks" when we do get there. Even when we do get "there"...there's still gonna plenty of opportunities to play the stock short-term with charts and analysis. That could be when the fun really starts...a nice core position and trade the rest.
It's called "guidance" and it's what potential investors look for, and when you overstate in one quarter, it comes back to bite you in the following quarter when the spin hits the fan (except for the pumped up manufacturing numbers, jobs numbers, growth numbers, etc, etc, which all get revised lower a month into the newer news cycle without fail and without a problem on "The Street" usually.) Do: "I tried to warned you all, look at this part read it slow..."
Thanks for the warning, Do, but would it be better for ITRO to spin the news the way we want? Wait a minute, strike that, because it doesn't matter what we want...just like it doesn't matter what GM, GE, BP, of even Berkshire shareholders want. But I prefer they don't spin the facts, and I've been here a while. I can wait because the long-term prospects are good, imo, and so I don't need to ask when we're gonna get there. If this was a short-term play for anybody here...well that sucks for them.
There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call "The Twilight Zone".
See the man at the end of the bar? The one talking to his imaginary friends? See as he reaches down to pet his imaginary dog? See him beg his dog not to leave. Even the imaginary dog has had enough.
can't answer that right now, Feddle...gotta go walk the dog...later, dude!
Very bizarre indeed...hey agNau...
you called it bud...Fedders was gonna drop a stinkbomb on this sit-chee-a-shun...looks like he's building to a crescendo...drum roll...dark glasses...tell us Feddle...who else is behind the scenes at Itro...spill the beans...is it - the company?
makes a person wonder how a guy can spend so much time focused on one play...and a former penny play at that...lol...geez, fiddle...imagine if you owned GE...or GM...you'd have LOTS of great advice to help straighten them out, huh?
What the heck fedders...
send it to me, too...
I'm at you.r.a.joke@spystuff.com
Clean house!!
Good idea, agNau, even if you stole it from Brainzo...
let's get 'em all out...and let's get a new coffee service, too...that swill they buy is prolly affecting the workers...man, if only we had a real leader...somebody with big ideas...you know, like "Nobel Prize" worthy ideas...we could rule the world in 90 days, or less!!
(Psst...Hey agNau...did you see the subliminal message I stuck in between the words "prolly" and "affecting"? It goes like this: woof, woof...woooooooo-fff)
yeah, Fudd...you're the financial advisor to CEOs in the pic
Hey Inside...and this is not off topic...
because I'm responding to a situation in which Feddon is relying on ITRO to help HIM help THE WORLD...so this is definitely on topic vis-a-vis Itro's performance being the catalyst, in a synergistic sort of way, for another blockbuster effort to happen that will help humanity...so I have to defend Feddoff here because it's not the Haiti project that you should be hammerin' him on --- it's his lack of CEOjones vis-a-vis his doggie invention that "his guys" need another $10K for before they'll pick up their hammers and nails and start workin again. See if Feddurrr was a good CEO, or even just an engaged General Contractor, he'd have seen those guys were scammin' him...but he was distracted looking for financing, I-J, so you can't really blame him for the ship sinkin' and leaving the folks in Haiti s-o-l. He wanted to help them, he just didn't have what it takes as a CEO to get his own project done...so Fedderrr is kinda blamin' Doc Whitney for his own lack of ability to start up something and actually get it done, albeit on a very small scale. So please, back off, Jobber, have some patience...the Feddster will still be flyin' to Stockholm to pick up his Nobel...it just may take a few more quarters.
Fedd: "trendz, I agree with what you're saying and don't understand what you're getting at. I'm not worried and I don't think anybody should be. But perception is more important than reality, that's why I think if he's going to do it, he needs to explain it well and not just throw it out there and expect everyone to get it because most won't. When I suggested nobody is paying attention to the stock, I'm not referring to the 1100+ current shareholders of record. I think most do watch the pps and activity. The drunk guy at the end of the bar analogy I don't get at all."
Hey Fedd,
What I was saying (in my example) was that I went months without knowing Microsoft had a stock split. If I didn't hold any Microsoft shares I wouldn't necessarily notice they split, unless I was browsing a site, etc. And actually, Microsoft is one of the biggies, getting lots of ink from the financial press, so that wasn't an example nearly comparable to ITRO. My point was that unless you hold ITRO shares, you almost certainly won't know of a r/s - or a regular stock split either. Nobody is going to email the general investing public that ITRO had a r/s, and the financial press isn't going to report it, so there will be no impact if/when it happens vis-a-vis "investor outlook".
I've had ITRO for 6-8 years, and I dream every day about selling 1MIL at $1... calling the broker and telling him to sell another MIl at 50 cent increments...or being lucky enough to have 3 or 4 MIL left and selling the "Rhino Horn" at $5 when folks realize what a gem we've uncovered. But I realize a r/s is probably in our best interest and so I won't have 7MIL+ shares to sell at a $1...then $2...then $5. Dayummm...I really enjoyed those daydreams...lol.
Here's the drunk guy thing...the regulars at the bar know not to get his attention or engage him...cuz he's gonna tell you something over and over - that one thing that's been buggin him since he was middle-aged and angry...and we sorta know by now how you feel about things Itronics...lol...so it's best not to try and make sense of it wif ya after all this time. Pretty sure we all want Dr. Whitney to succeed, but it's gonna be at his pace. That's how it's gonna be.
My bad... meant to say "The little GREEN Fert company that could!!"
Writing up sumpin' about ITRO with that title and gonna send it to whomever...lol...The Daily Reckoningfor starters
Hey Harpe,
I replied to Fedd right after reading his post...so I didn't have a chance to read your words. I agree with ya, and thanks for being here and contributing to the next big thing --- the little FERT company that could!!!
Fedd: "I just hope you sell an R/S well because 99% of the time they are not well received. I hope you have enough sense to package it with some very good news and explain why it is beneficial and not being done out of desperation. Otherwise, investors will crucify the pps further... This stock is a screaming buy, right here, right now. Can't go much lower in what is shaping up to be the best Q in the history of the company."
Sort of like avoiding eye contact with the drunk at the end of the bar...you know...how they figure that's their cue to come tell you what's been on their mind...and so I hesitate... but don't you see the contradiction in your words? You WORRY about a r/s, but you bemoan the fact that no-bod-dee knows about ITRO. Have you ever checked out a stock - any stock, say Microsoft - and saw a $80 share price, for example. A few months later, you take a look again, and what the hey...it's at $50. No way it lost $30 in 4 months. Turns out it went to $100 and did a 2 for 1 split.
What's my point...because we're talking r/s here, not regular stock splits?
Point is, either way, the Microsoft split was good because it made the share price more attractive for the little folk. The r/s will make ITRO more attractive because not as many folk will laugh at the sub-penny price, and more importantly...no-bod-dee knows about ITRO anyway...so there's no-bod-dee to worry about bailing on ITRO and dumping their shares.
I know you know this...but I just happened to look down the bar at the wrong time and, oh well... either I gotta leave or talk wif ya...lol.
Fedd: "The folks here expect more from a moderator, IMO."
Really, azzwipe???
Wanna take that to a vote?