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The HTDS PR for Nov 19th clearly states that the 200,000 doses of H1N1 vaccine is worth 1.8m USD($9/dose), with an additional 4-6m in the offering. Hmmm, 1.8m USD + (4-6m doses @ $7/dose= 28-42m USD, sounds like quite a deal for HTDS being the delivery boy.
Another link regarding HTDS' partner, ZT Bio-Pharm, and the H1N1 vaccine to Chile: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.diariosalud.net/content/view/17188/2/&ei=E7IJS4GRGNWWlAfWwJiFBA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CDIQ7gEwCQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dbiosano%2BH1N1%2Bchile%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official
This next link is more up-to-date than the August link I posted earlier, but, if you read it, you will see it mentions ZT Bio-Pharm, 250,000 doses, and delivery by late November, which seems to closely match what this past weeks HTDS PR stated. Again, more confirmation from an independent, 3rd party source. This clearly is beginning to point toward credibility in HTDS' latest PR. Good news for investors, IMO. http://www.regionalsantiago.cl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1098:3-millones-de-vacunas-contra-la-a-h1n1-adquirira-chile&catid=42:noticias-salud&Itemid=144 (untranslated version); http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.regionalsantiago.cl/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D1098:3-millones-de-vacunas-contra-la-a-h1n1-adquirira-chile%26catid%3D42:noticias-salud%26Itemid%3D144&ei=4qgJS9yaB5XVlAf1npCFBA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBgQ7gEwAw&prev=/search%3Fq%3DBiosano%2Bchile%2Bh1n1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DPCK (translated version).
Precisely, ZT Biopharm has the license and Mellow Hope/HTDS (ZT Biopharm's exclusive partner) is exporting the H1N1 vaccine to Chile, 200,00 doses so far, with another 5-6 million to follow. This is money for Mellow Hope/HTDS and puts to rest the speculation that the H1N1 vaccine produced by ZT Biopharm is for Chinese domestic use only. This puts to rest the speculation that this is all a scam and pump and dump company. From what I am reading the HTDS PR from last week is more confirmation of what the company has been saying all along, and with the credible 3rd party link, as posted previously, only adds to confidence in HTDS, IMO.
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As you can see and read from my previous post and link, Mellow Hope is delivering the H1N1 vaccine to Chile. This is a 3rd party verification that HTDS is exporting the H1N1 vaccine internationally, just as they said they were from the recently released PR. These are the facts. Once other sales are reported and financials released, I'm sure the shareholders will ultimately be rewarded, just like they have since HTDS was selling @ .0008 in June.
This is the link to the HTDS sale and export of the H1N1 vaccine to Chile. http://www.biosano.cl/inicio_esp.html
Nobody cares whether Mellow Hope has the H1N1 vaccine. However, HTDS is now exporting a Chinese-made vaccine internationally and making a profit for doing so.
This is good news. It is opposite of what I have read on this board, that this very same H1N1 vaccine, that HTDS is exporting internationally, was solely for Chinese distribution only. This PR has validity written all over it, IMO, as the consequences for a fabrication are too severe and would ultimately destroy HTDS. Nonetheless, 3rd party verification will ultimately decide the issue one way or another, but I think it is a good bet that this is true.
Agree 100%
Look, I do not know what other agreements that Zheijiang Tianyuan Bio has with other companies for other vaccines, all I know is that HTDS/Mellow Hope claims from there Sep 29th PR that they are the exclusive agent for Zheijiang Tianyuan Bio. Now, you must admit, for that to be a true statement, HTDS/Mellow Hope would have to be the exclusive agent to market, sell and export the H1N1 vaccine(supposing, again, that the Chinese government allows that).
Well, there was a PR that claimed that clinical trials were being done and that they would be completed by Sep and licensed by Oct or Nov. If they meant by that PR that Mellow Hope was conducting the clinical trials, I'm not sure, though, it is well-known in the pharmaceutical industry, companies ask other companies to run for them clinical trials as a form of independent verification of their own results, as well as cost-saving and space limitations, etc. So Mellow Hope could have contracted with Zheijiang Tianyuan Bio to provide the independent part of the clinical trials. Now that is all speculation on my part and I have not verified that. I guess another email to Mellow Hope is in the offing. Thank you for the tel #, by the way. Regarding, HTDS getting a license for the H1N1 vaccine, I agree with you, that from reading the headline only, from the Sep 29th PR, it would have lead you to that believe that and that is a lie. However once you read the full article it becomes absolutely clear that they are not manufacturing the vaccine and have not obtained the license, but, through Zheijiang Tianyuan Bio (who has the license), they have an exclusive agreement to market, sell and export the H1N1 vaccine (supposing that they are allowed to by the Chinese government). I have emailed Mellow Hope regarding questions about that, and will update what their response was when I receive it. Again, thanks for providing serious food for thought and keep the info flowing.
Again, you are absolutely right, Zheijiang Tianyuan Bio cannot convey their license to another, according to your conversation with that SFDA official you spoke to last night. Now I'm not sure quite what that means if Zheijiang Tianyuan Bio wants to export their vaccine, supposing for the moment, that they are allowed to do that by the Chinese government. I'm not sure that it would preclude HTDS/Mellow Hope from marketing, selling, exporting the vaccine for them?
You are absolutely right. HTDS does not have a license to manufacture the H1N1 vaccine. No one is disputing that. HTDS never, I repeat, never claimed that they were the manufacturer from what I have read. HTDS is claiming to have the right to market,sell and export the H1N1 vaccine. Therefore, it is your impression, from the conversation with the unsaid SFDA official, that is a "lie" according to you? Am I correct? Just so I'm clear so that when I pose my questions for the SFDA, I'm clearly defining what I seek. Again, thank you for your thoughtful discussion,and keep up the valuable assistance you are providing us all.
It would be helpful to know your contact person you spoke with so that when I call I can mention that person when I call. You have been very helpful and hope you and I can continue to help to confirm the truth. Oh, by the way, I did go to the SFDA website and poor me, I must really be an idiot or something, but I could not find a tel # on that site. Also, when I google it, I'm coming up empty. I did find an email address and am forming a letter. I will share the response when I get it.
Thank you for following up on that. Certainly, if that is true, it would seem to indicate that HTDS/Mellow Hope will not be exporting any of the H1N1 vaccine, am I correct that is the feeling you got from your talk with the SFDA? Do you remember the name of your contact person that you spoke with so that I can call and confirm also? Could you please save me time and tell me what tel # you called? Your doing a wonderful service and I thank you again for your help.
Please take a moment to read that PR. It was dated 9/7/2006, 3 years ago. IMO, it seem a little misleading to post that without including the date or am I wrong? It is entirely possible that HTDS is now the exclusive partner.
Thank you, Marine-1, that is what I'm looking for. Doesn't seem that HTDS will be exporting the H1N1 vaccine from that statement, however, that article is dated 6/10/09 and don't know whether things have changed since then. Will have to wait to see. Further DD is needed.
Has anyone found a verifiable credible link, that states that the H1N1 vaccine produced by Zhejiang Tianyuan Bio-pharmaceutical Co. is not for international export, but for domestic Chinese use only? I believe someone on this board has claimed that, but has not let the board know whether there is some truth to that statement or is just their unsubstantiated opinion. Until someone can provide independent proof, it should be not be taken as a statement of fact.... at this time. We need further DD in this manner and I am also trying to find an answer to that question and appreciate the educated HTDS moderators in their continued guidance in making us seek out the truth.
Many times when I read a headline and what it states I may not actually know the full meaning of the headline until I read the full report. Please tell me how you, as a PR person, would have written a short headline to convey the message? If you read the report it makes the headline clear, that the license was obtained through Zhejiang Tianyuan Bio-pharmaceutical Co. Since we have that cleared up, can we just choose to disagree how the headline was written and move on? What other "completely false" things can we address from that PR of 9/29/09. Your thoughtful comments are appreciated.
Would a moderator or anyone else that has the link or has spoken with Zhejiang Tianyuan Bio-pharmaceutical Co., please help us poor ignorant souls, with verification that their vaccine is for domestic use only and not available to be exported? Your comments are appreciated. Keep up the good work.
The 9/29/09 PR (the link is:http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Hard-to-Treat-Diseases-HTDS-prnews-2866165524.html?x=0&.v=86) clearly states that through the HTDS subsidary, Mellow Hope, "its exclusive business partner, Zhejiang Tianyuan Bio-pharmaceutical Co., Ltd has been granted H1N1 license" and "Mellow Hope
is the exclusive agent of Zhejiang Tianyuan Bio-pharmaceutical Co. Ltd for International marketing and sales". Nowhere in the PR for 9/29/09 does HTDS proclaim that they are manufacuring the H1N1 vaccine. Would a moderator please provide a veriable link to the statement, for all to clearly see, that states that HTDS is manufacuring the H1N1 vaccine from the 9/29/09 PR. Granted that the 9/14/09 PR did imply that HTDS itself had obtained the license, which is incorrect, but since then has been clarified with the 9/29/09 PR. Also, what source can you provide regarding the statement that the vaccine produced by Zhejiang Tianyuan Bio-pharmaceutical Co.,Ltd. will not be for the international market? Please clarify for all readers of this board what was "completely false" in the 9/29/09 PR (not yesterday by the way), in detail, so that we can absorb what was false about it. Your attention to this is appreciated.
HTDS is at .0162 12:20p Sep 30. Good company to make profits to date. Be careful, do your due diligence. Oh, by the way, does anyone on this board know what happened to post #13150? Just thought I'd bring that up.
I have been in HTDS for 2 mos, though, have been watching for 4 months. At present, I'm up 400% of my original investment. I did my due diligence and feel that it has good potential to achieve 3-5 cents in the near future. Now, I realize that the moderators on this board have an anti-HTDS bias. Be that it may, I'm all about making money, as I'm sure all investors are. The money I have invested in HTDS will not change my life at all if it when away tomorrow. I will still speculate on penny stocks. That is why due diligence is required. Do not believe anything on these boards (Yahoo, Google, Ihub, etc). Do your own research and invest wisely. GLTA.