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Sorry, won't do it again! I apologize, please reinstate me. Thank you
Let me sit back and expect things to just happen because that's what I want--why not? Right? Unfortunately things take TIME, MONEY and determination! Don't get me wrong this IS a HUGE victory on many different levels!!! Problem is DTC is a monster, with lots of $$$ and IPWG is not sitting idle.
Manage your expectations
Right, google was once asked why they don't split their stock so more people can afford it--google simply answered because we want to attract a certain investor/shareholder. Now I fully understand what they mean. Wish IPWG had similar policy.
Is it me or most of what you wrote is just same thing being repeated a million times over and over? You really took the time to write all that--I wonder why. But I don't care, I don't know who you are and frankly it doesn't matter. You mention things out of thin air and expect people to believe you because you wrote a novel?? IPWG was NEVER named a defendant in any case, IPWG was never found of anything illegal, and IPWG was looked at by SEC and nothing was found. There are NO publications or any other "research" you claim that would point to IPWG or it's directors from any potential wrongdoing or illegal activity. Except maybe just one, Jack Wagenti but he's long gone. SEC ruling is huge, lawyers will always be lawyers but to waste their time fighting a giant for free and potentially losing is....what's the word, risky? Or dumb? Unless of course there was a GOOD chance of winning.
Also, you're not doing a very good job in your attempt to discredit and instill doubt--Bottom line is haters will hate and potatoes will potate. I'm done with arguing.
Your first few words "there was nothing illegal about it" proves that you are MISSING the point of this ruling and it's potential. I can write 10 pages, stick quotes and twist it anyway I want also--BUT the fact that it was remanded back to DTC means nothing, the fact that SEC states "we do not intend to suggest any view on the outcome of this remand" again is meaningless!! The bare FACT that SEC gave reasons (supported by facts) that DTC was negligent, unfair and without any proper cause is PLENTY!!! And it's ALL that IPWG needs to win this case--Besides all the lawyers who want to take this case, The Street wants to contribute to IPWG's defense fund! That just shows the scope of this ruling--but of course there will be people down playing this and dismissing it as nothing, what else is new!?!?
Also your allegations on how there's other on going investigations is PURE fiction!! IPWG is NOT being investigated in any shape or form pal--
Can you please explain to me how that is our top priority right now!?!? You are failing to see the bigger picture here-announcing a SEC ruling will only raise more questions and at the end of the day fall flat because some people do not understand the magnitude of this ruling. Also, IPWG cannot just accept the ruling and smile, counter action is required, is there going to be a class action suit? How much are we going to sue for? Maybe a settlement is better? There is so many questions that need to be answered and addressed--so why you are complaining about some entry into a website is just beyond my understanding, really. When everything is in order and it's the right timing all shareholders will be informed. Simple as that
SEC states "Given the record currently before us, we cannot conclude that DTC provided IPWG with
the procedural safeguards required by Section 17A. DTC's Important Notice fails to meet the
statutory requirements because (1) it was not sent to IPWG itself, but rather to DTC's
Participants; 33 and (2) it merely points to the existence of the Commission's complaint against
certain IPWG shareholders without any additional explanation of why the existence of the
complaint warrants the suspension of clearance and settlement services with respect to IPWG's
securities. Moreover, although Section 17A states that parties such as IPWG must receive an
opportunity to be heard, DTC's November 3, 2009 letter responding to IPWG's request for a hearing states that "DTC declines [IPWG's hearing] request." The Important Notice also does
not specify the expected duration of the suspension, nor does it specify the actions that IPWG must take to remove the suspension."
Which basically says the chill was ILLEGAL!!! Again this is HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS HOW HUGE THE VICTORY IS!!! The Street wants to contribute to IPWG's defense fund!!!
Here is an NIBA Industry Alert article!!
http://myemail.constantcontact.com/NIBA-Industry-Alert--SEC-Orders-DTC-to-Adopt-Fairness-Procedures-on-Suspensions.html?soid=1101272616001&aid=hjop6zFr0D8
This is a TOTAL game changer for IPWG!! All the licenses and permits, contracts are well and alive!!
Stop looking at the PPS, obviously the stock is still chilled!!! You are looking at the PPS like this is a revenue producing company!! You are NOT investing in an established company, what is wrong with you!? You are investing in the company's potential, the future, which requires a whole different level of risk!!!! So before you invested what did you think was going to happen??? You wanted all the reward with out any risk??? C'mon!! I know what you going to say "but what about all the broken promises, how come nothing came to fruition end etc etc etc." Well welcome to the real world--things don't always work out the way it was planned, things happen, BUT what counts is the ability to get up and continue trying no matter what!! And that's the kind of management we have, they are not giving up!!!
For us to survive this long and beat DTC speaks volume!!! It's HUGE--But of course some will discredit it and play it down, the usual non sense--which is fine. Anyone who understands the scope of this, the potential and where we at is not going to waste he's or her time trying to prove something. For what??? You either see it or you don't. So I'm not arguing with anyone--
BUT when this gets attention, when this gets out and when public will learn of IPWG and what happen, what we are about and the GREAT potential that we have--what do you think will happen??? We will explode, especially if we can finally secure that funding OMG!!! That is how we need to capitalize on this golden opportunity
This is a MANUMENTAL victory!! IPWG is the FIRST company to WIN against a multi-billion dollar corporation like DTC!!! This is like David & Goliath--some people just don't understand the scope of this victory! Countless other companies are in the same boat as IPWG, YET IPWG was the ONLY company which was able to WIN!! From damages to restitution to hundreds of other companies, IPWG is at the forefront of it all!! DTC is in a tough position, this is the kind of stuff that needs to be on 60 minutes, Wall Street Journal and other finance news publications!!! Things are finally turning for IPWG!!!
There is no point in holding them against that PR, they were told it's imminent--management was anxious to share that news with its shareholders and it backed fired--lesson learned. Now it wasn't manufactured out of thin air, it wasn't a lie--It simply did not come to fruition yet for whatever reason, economical turmoil, global recession etc.
Now let's look at it from a different prospective--many people blame the management and accuse them of a lot of non sense. 100% of it ALL lies!!!
After all the hurdles, after all the disappointments and problems, management is still ACTIVE in pursuing Financing!! Management in ALL this time has NOT initiated a single reverse split!!! Look at other companies, at this stage they have at least THREE under their belt!!! Peter T put his own money into the company to keep it afloat instead of doing a reverse split this whole time, says a lot doesnt it? And John B is working for FREE!! When was the stock last diluted!?!?
We have agreements/permits and contracts In Poland, Mexico and other countries ready to go--that is no small feat!!! There was A LOT accomplished, the unfortunate part is its not recognized until its build!! Which requires a TON of money!! At these times, with all the other ways to invest and etc. it's an ENORMOUS task to accomplish!! Anyways.....
There is no doubt it's a real company, real potential and great people behind it working tirelessly to make this all happen.
I believe in them, in IPWG and in Peter & John!!!
GLTA
IPWG had a lot of bad luck with many hurdles and difficulties some people just cannot wrap their heads around--We are talking about raising hundreds of millions of dollars to build plants around the world, when most of the world is in a global recession!!! Banks are failing, bailout after bailout, countries are broke and some
People are just so ignorant it amazes me.
FACTS--IPWG is still working, still alive, still has deals on the table, still has interested parties, still trying to secure funding, still exploring other options!! IPWG never gave up!!
And now I believe, after the SEC ruling in our favor we are at the turning point for the better!!
This ruling puts DTC in a weak spot NOT only with IPWG but also with other companies it screwed with!! Amazingly IPWG is the first company that SEC ruled in favor of--So does anyone think DTC wants all this attention??
I see restitution
I see damages
All in favor of IPWG
"Everything moving forward" in a sense that all the deals are still on the table, still working to secure funding, still alive and still trying!!!
And now with this ruling we have a HUGE opportunity to regain traction, get back on our two legs instead of just one and plow forward!!
Here it is again
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/opinions/2012/34-66611.pdf
Its important on the shareholders part to be proactive in further pressuring the brokers in trading IPWG. If you can please call your brokers and let them know, that if they do not trade IPWG or refuse they would be in direct violation of a FCC rule based on the ruling from SEC. It is beneficial to ALL shareholder to get IPWG trading again, with your help we can get IPWG out of the dark and put it back on the map!!
NOTHING IS DEAD, Everything is moving forward!!!
IMPORTANT!!! HUGE Victory Against DTC!!! SEC Sides with IPWG!! SEC states "DTC should adopt procedures that accord with the fairness requirements"!!! IPWG Will be able to go after DTC and get A LOT of $$$ IN restitution and other Damages!! How long do you think the chill will last now!?!?!?! IPWG Still rocking and rolling, still fighting, still trying!! GO IPWG!!!!
its all in this link
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/opinions/2012/34-66611.pdf
A lot of people have been wondering lately where I have been--well I'm still here, still positive and very optimistic!! IPWG is NOT dead!!! Everything is still very much alive!!! Some wondered why the phones were disconnected--it's because IPWG is moving its headquarters to Manhattan (NYC) and will retain a smaller office in Florida!! One step at a time--money IS coming, then higher exchange and etc. One thing for sure if it wasn't for Peter Toscano and John Benvengo, their hard work and sheer determination we would have closed doors a long time ago!! And you can take that to the bank!!
Go Peter!
Go John!
Go IPWG!
I fully support what ipwginvestor wrote about JWAGE (jack wagenti)
As well as the whole cancellation of dtc/sec/ipwg meeting.
I say one thing if JWAGE was incharge of ipwg instead of pt n jb I would have been long gone already!!!
For those that care and are true IPWG shareholders---http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/IPWG/financials we are no longer viewed as a "stop" but rather as "yield with limited information"--it is not much but it's a movement in the right direction--to be once again transparent and reporting. Everything in it's due time--for the naysayers this is just another nail in their coffin that proves their misinformation and constant compaign to discredit IPWG and it's management.
Like I said before--just because there are no updates or pr releases does not necessarily mean bad or negative. Instead you let your emotions takeover and control your thought process, and also the sad reality of some posters spreading untrue and false information on daily basis--which fuels your imagination.
This is how I see it--IMO if you read previous prs you will see a pattern of steps that were taken which were necessary to achieve the ultimate success of getting the money--last pr regarding the money was July 26th unfortunately it was misinterpreted and not to mention them jumping the gun and saying they received confirmation--what that tells me is that everything is still a go except either few things needed correction or something changed which needed additional time--this is a real world high risk venture. So delays are natural and they do unfortunately happen--which does not necessarily mean we are doomed. The fact that they are diluting tells me they are working at getting this done--if you believe otherwise that's your business, sell and move on. Dilution sucks but that's the unfortunate reality of pink sheet companies that are trying to make it. This is the best I can do to help you see this differently. And deals of this nature take an average 24 months to complete--and the only two people that will get this done are PETER T & JOHN B no one else and you can take that to the bank!!! Anyone says otherwise are fos.
IMO it's not their fault completely--yes they should not have jumped the gun but to me it shows they are eager to get this done and announce it as soon as possible. IMO no news is good news at the moment--and update now would not solve anything or accomplish a thing except maybe that 3 second satisfaction of seeing a pr release.
Only thing that matters at this point is CASH and IMO I'm still very optimistic they will pull it off!!!!
It's all about the connections--which already are established. And your questions are flawed--Poland has ALREADY selected IPWG to build WTE in their country!! Mexico has given the okay, along with Indiana and few other places. And why would they give money to more established companies with less profit potential????? Management team does not need the expertise to build the WTE plant--that's why they have hired an architect and a construction company to handle that. ANYONE insisting new "regime" is necessary to continue are super clueless and are here for different reasons!!!!!! Posting the same BS lies day in and out.
Anyone who thinks or believes it is easy to obtain financing for a WTE is a moron--and the only guys capable of getting this done IS THE CURRENT MANAGEMENT TEAM!!!
What people fail to see is that IPWG has everything IN PLACE already--ready to roll BUT the necessary funds required!! And just because it hasn't been announced yet or they haven't updated us DOES NOT mean they are incapable of getting this done.
GE does not need anyone's money my friend--they got plenty themselves. That is why it is so lucrative to give money to a start-up company like IPWG--even though they haven't build a WTE plant YET!!! They have everything in place to BUILD one as soon as this money comes thru!!!!!!
It's all about the risk--good economy people willing to take a bigger risk--shitty economy people tend to hold on to their money. So on that note please hop on and try to find 250,000,000 million euros to fund your project!!! And let me know how that goes for you.
Why would you sell!? At these prices!? And if you did sell why are you still bitter about it posting here!? Doesn't make sense...this isn't for everyone high risk = high reward!!!
Still here, still positive and optimistic things will start happening...sooner or later. Hopefully sooner. Peace!
Yeah I guess that would be the most logic explanation...right?? But your off base my friend, it's not a conspiracy theory and no one is getting rich just yet...there are about 4 in a half posters on here who claim a lot of claims but carry no weight whatsoever...lots of bs, no facts, no proof and most important 90% of so called investors on ipwg board hold no shares ZERO. But that is not even the point here...few if you fail to see the meaning behind a "start-up" company with ZERO revenue and 10B authorized shares by the shareholders!!!!!!!! THERE WAS NEVER ANY GUARANTEE ON ANYTHING!!! So for you to jump the gun and start bad mouthing people...not very bright to say the least. Contrary to what is being said on this or any msg board about ipwg, Irish and the management are working TIRELESSLY to get this done!!! And it will get done, and it will expose the truth....so sell, complain, give up whatever-- it is what it is...this isn't for everyone...if you can't handle the heat get the f out of the kitchen!
A year an a half is a long time for you?? Thats when most of dilution happened..."these two can't get this done" yet you were buying shares last week? Or attempting to? Whatever it was. Your a great skeptic. Many people are clueless, yet claim like they know...there's a big difference between "claiming to be right" to actually being right. And we will soon find out which one it is.
I'm not surprised how once again you got EVERYTHING wrong!!!
1. It's not 1,000,000,000 diluted in the last month!!! More like 100m or so...how you figured 1B is just beyond me but whatever.
2. The funding group (Italians) DO NOT have 7 members on the BOD!!! More like ONE!!!! So once again you are WAY off!!!! No surprise there.
3. Your misinformation, bald accusations and total bs is just that and carries no weight, because believe it or not but Peter T and John B with the assistance from the Irish WILL get this thing DONE!!!
And for those who care... If anyone noticed a change in how the phones are answered at the IPWG's office?? There is no longer a voice saying we are not here right now but if you want to leave a voicemail press 1 for and etc. 3 was Vanya and she was usually at the office. WELL now you call and they answer the phones RIGHT AWAY!!! Including a new girl in addition to Vanya!! Now that has to tell you something!!!
Those warm fuzzies are back!!!
Darkest before dawn!!!!
What the hell are you mumbling about!? What dictator? You've got to be kidding me...ALL your information is derived from jack...you are not posting your opinions. You want to meet Peter? Call him up, he's in ny pretty often...Vanya can give you his cell, you can call John as well on his cell...SO Y DON'T YOU CALL THEM AND TELL THEM ABOUT YOUR DICTATOR instead of posting the same nonsense over and over WHICH HAS BEEN ADDRESSED A DOZEN TIMES ALREADY!!!!!!! I'm done arguing with you.
kashmir, ipwginvestor answered your question/concern. Now i want to point something out regarding alleyba1...........
ALLEYBA Says:
"The dictator is not an ex-board member, but many of his thoughts are posted by me at his request because he is as good as using a computer as the CEO of IPWG is at getting the funding from the Italians. That is the best answer I can give you"
IMO this is a reference to jack w. Alleyba gets his information from jack, which should tell you how credible his posts are. And we all know what jack is all about...As ive stated before, misinformation, twisted truths and more misguidance by yours truly...WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN IPWG COMES THROUGH AND PROVES WHO WAS RIGHT AND WHO WAS WRONG ALL ALONG???
Alleyba my advice to you, is to stop listening to jack.
Fact of the matter is this...no matter who calls John B, everyone will get the same genetic information...because inside information is inside information...he does not know you from the hole in the wall, so what makes anyone thing he will share any special information with them is just beyond me. But if it calms you down then by all means go for it...because even though they dont provide with much updates via PR's...John is known for always returning calls, and always taking calls from shareholders. I think Peter and John both, make good enough efforts to speak with shareholders when shareholders reach out via the office number. Vic your doing an awesome job by updating all of us when you hear anything. And just to clarify, 99% of the time someone is ALWAYS at the office, and Vanya is not the only one answering the phones...so anyone that makes a decent effort to contact the management gets a response.
That's brilliant!!! The most honest statement in a while!?!?!??? Do you live under a rock or something...all the negative rumors, all the twisted information and all the bs has been planted by JACK WAGENTI!!!!! And when you hear those sane words from the mouth it all originated from of course it's sounds like the most honest statement!!!!! Are people blind!?!? Jack is the dishonest one, jack is the guy that uses all the dirty tricks in the world to prevent ipwg from making it ANYWAY he can....going as far as posting on a public msg board KNOWING he's the CEO of uspr and uspr has similar BOD with ipwg!!! Conflict of interest anyone!?!? Maybe the sec should be conacted regarding this issue because I'm 100% certain illegal act was committed on behalf of jack...and it won't be hard to find out...because it's all connected...samiam, gapper plus certain information only certain people know, emailing people fully aware the information is twisted to make it look like ipwg is doing something wrong...intentially trying to discredit ipwg and it's management hmm and it certainly will be easier because jack already has a conviction with the SEC!!!!!!!!! Keep digging your grave jack.
And jack your a hypocrite...saying no one wants ipwg to succeed more than you...yet you do everything in your power to prevent it from succeeding...good one!!!
Oh yea jack...worthless toilet paper!?!? I guess that is exactly what you prefer considering all the effort by you to keep it like that...jack wagenti IS USING EVERY DIRTY TRICk IN THE BOOK TO PREVENT IPWG FROM SUCCEEDING...including using other posters to spread negatively twisted info anyway he can...and going as far as posting inside information on a public msg board!!! Something needs to be done about this ASAP!!!
Okay I can see how you can get excited thinking you got something here...and naturally your trying to push these so called "assumptions" out on the open to let's say "seek justice"...because well, if 2+2=4 then 4-2 must =2 so everything looks simple... But it's not so simple!!! What if there are many other variables you just don't know, so for you to get a satisfying answer YOU NEED THE OTHER VARIABLES!!! Get it!? Put it this way, if something was not right or another words kosher over at IPWG we would already have a shake down and voted in new management...just like it happened over at uspr. So again the 3 musketeers that are trying to prove something here are swimming against the current because there are plenty of other shareholders that would have already acted against the management if management was doing something wrong!!! Again you are making ZERO sense in ALL of your assumptions!!! One cannot happen without the other!!!! Too many people are involved for Peter or John to do anything remotely illegal or unethical!!!!! The Irish are watching, people with close ties to the company are watching THE SEC TOOK A LOOK and found NOTHING!!! And you want to tell me some fairytale on how 5$ goes to Peter and John while 1$ goes to the company!?!?!?!?!? That is so insane I have no words to describe your flawed logic!!!!!! Even your dear friend from Pluto says this is not a scam...so leave your questions for another day.
Samiam1 it appears to me that you are somehow connected to the BOD or maybe even jwage...
Alleyba what are you trying to accomplish with your questions to the CEO!?!?!?! Are you trying to prove some kind of a point that you created?? I just dont get it, you are not providing anything useful to this board except the same nonsense over and over...WE ALL KNOW THAT THEY SHOULD UPDATE US, THEY SHOULD DO THAT AND THAT, AND NOT DILUTE AND SPEND LESS AND KEEP US INFORMED AND ETC ETC ETC. BUT YOU DONT KNOW THE REAL DEAL BEHIND THE CLOSED DOORS SO HOW CAN YOU MAKE YOUR ASSUMPTIONS!?!?!?! Maybe you should take over, since you are so knowledgeable it seems in the inner workings of a start-up company, and how the management should behave, and how much money everything costs...maybe you will do a better job keeping this company afloat while the funding comes in???????????? Perhaps you can even remove the chill...because IT IS ALL SOOOOOOO EASY OMG!!! YOU fail to see, along with your friend from pluto that this is NOT just a simple task of signing a few papers and waiting for the money to arrive...THIS IS NOT BY ANY MEANS A SIMPLE TASK...IT IS NOT BY ANY MEANS THE ONLY TASK. That is why they have to dilute, to stay afloat, pay bills, pay lawyers, pay any other expense NECESSARY to keep the doors open and FINALLY get this damn funding in. You think they just sit at the office day in and day out with their thumbs up their asses saying sheesh where are the money????????? Or you think that is the only thing on their plate?????????? WRONG!!!! What was said in the 7/26 PR was NOT necessarily a lie/misinformation alleyba THINGS CHANGE LAST MINUTE and when you say something like 5$ goes to Peter and John while 1$ goes to the company YOU ARE IMPLICATING EVERYONE INCLUDING THE IRISH OF STEALING!!!!!! Which in turn would mean this is ALL a scam based on YOUR assumptions...WHICH in turn would mean that a WHOLE LOT of people are INVOLVED...BUT I know along with any other rational person that THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT A SCAM. THEY ARE DEFINITELY NOT STEALING...and how do I know that? Well for starters THE IRISH INSPECTED THE DAMN BOOKS, THE IRISH ARE ON BOARD OF DIRECTORS...just that FACT alone tells you ITS ALL LEGIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Again you are misinformed, you are clueless about the degree of involvement and resources required to pull off a deal of that size, and you think this is all 1,2,3 simple...YOU ARE WRONG along with your dear friend from pluto. And not to mention you absolutely will not accomplish a thing with your posts, beside annoy a few people.
SIMON SEZ:
By alleyba accusing Peter and John of wrong doing...wouldn't that automatically implicate the Irish as well!?!? The same people alleyba hopelessly begs to take over!?!?!? Alleybas logic is flawed, his information is full of holes, he hears a sound but doesnt know where it's coming from. It's like certain individuals on here that are despretly trying to bury IPWG any way they can't...including posting certain information not meant for the public. Why is that!? When certain individuals hold tens of millions of shares and desperately trying to shut ipwg down?? hmmm. Those same people take any chance they can to throw spears into IPWG's wheels WHY!? Is it because the fear of ipwg succeeding is greater than it's collapse even if you own tens of millions of shares!?!? Why is that??? I think ipwg is a classic example of good vs evil, and it's up to you to decide who's evil and who's good...some people will know what I'm talking about and most importantly who. The fact is this...once the funds are confirmed NO ONE will stop IPWG and as many forces working against ipwg right now there are double the force working for ipwg right now.
Alleyba can claim any fairy tale he wants...but the truth is out there and it certainly does not lay with alleyba. Especially not with jwage.
imo nothing...its all manipulation at this point...all is moot until they announce the funds, removal of the chill, construction and becoming fully reporting...tik tok
Here's a better translation:
American publicly traded company, which designs and construction of central power generation from municipal and industrial waste. Holder of an international patent that stands as a world leader for reducing emissions of pollutants already registered with the parameters of KYOTO 2020.
GO IPWG!!!
GO PETER T!!!
GO JOHN B!!!
IMO who ever just sold 20m shares will be running like a chicken without it's head trying to get them back!! Ah love the positive sentiment...IPWG our little gem!!
AMEN!!!!