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Looks like the shorts are back for now....how low will it go? Who knows...but it would sure have helped if the 500M share buy back program actually HAPPENED in the market. Too bad.
Making vaccines? Where does it talk about making vaccines? Distributing vaccines, that is what they're talking about. And making money you can that way, of course.
This news could really turn things around, though there is an ambiguity in the language of the press release: it speaks of a Share Buy Back AND A Share reduction program. Are these distinct initiatives? If so, then the effect on the PPS could really be huge. Yet, If this is just a sloppy use of terms, it is STILL great news.
For one, you can bet that investors will buy back shares as well: As soon as the buy back is seriously underway and the PPS start moving up on large volume, investors will see an opportunity to get back in and ride the wave. In addition, shorts on the stocks -as few or large may they be- will see a signal to liquidate their position, thus buy shares too, and why not, buy a few extra and ride the wave as well.
Now the real challenge for HTDS will be once the buy back is done. They will have to come up with some kind of very good news to maintain the PPS at higher level: perhaps the Share reduction program? perhaps big contract? This would be great at that point, as it would reduce the capacity, or elevate the risks, of shorting the stock.
All and all, I firmly believe HTDS is getting their ducks in order to get the PPS back to valuation. I am holding to my shares, and when the stock starts moving, I will add to my position. Good luck to all.
Nice accumulation in the last few days/weeks, a new base has been formed. Looks like we have established bottom and we are back on our way up. I don't expect short coverage will trigger any sudden pps spike; shorts have already covered as they know this has been bottom. Rather bull investors, old and new, now ready to give HTDS a new boost, as dictated by news and potential and actual revenues. Soon those who were shorting will be buying on speculation. I expect we are back over a penny before end of second quarter.
Looks like HTDS is ready to gets on its way, finally. Keep the good news coming, and investors will do the rest...
Thanks for a very good post Crooked: it really helps clearing up the issues or ambiguities about what Mellow Hope does or doesn't. As an investor, I am satisfied with Mellow Hope being a middle man distributing manufactured products at profit: This is what the Wallmarts of the World do! As revenues ramp up, so will HTDS share value, and that is what matters to me as an investor.
In my last posting, I was refering to a reverse split of course, no a forward one.
I wonder if this is not a preempt of what is to happen here with HTDS? A forward split would certainly allow, once and for all, to settle the shorts' debate. That would be a sure way to be sure, for sure. And bringing the pps over a penny would certainly be more interesting for potential investors. A 10 to 1 would bring it to .03, not bad.
ITlogic, not necessarily. The shorts, if there are any, know that the news does not mean the forward split is happening right now. In fact, the filling does not state any date, so it could be in a little while still. There is plenty of time for short coverage, if there is any that is, and a trader experienced enough to short a stock....knows that.
MMs and shorts are covering as we speak...they know BIG NEWS ares coming, so they are covering the shares they sold you aat .01 and above. Unless BIG NEWS come before they are down, they will keep at it.
So basically, you are confirming that MMs have total power over the share price of a stock. Thanks for your help making that clear.
There are many ways to short stocks without declaring it.
The easiest one, especially for MMs, is to keep flipping short stocks between their own accounts. Short do not have to be declared before 3 days. At which time, if stocks are covered, no declaration is needed. But covering is easy if you are an MMs with access to multiple number accounts and not having to pay for trades: you just keep shorting your own stocks with other shorts.
This "method" has several advantages, in addition to not declaring shorts. For one, it creates VOLUME on the stock, which attracts buyers. But more importantly, it allows CONTROL of the share price, as on MM can keep buying its own stock at a lower price, effectively buying more shares for the same amount of money. In other words, MMs sell short at higher price, and then start covering their own shorts at lower prices, slowly but surely bringing the share price fdown and picking all stop losses on the way down, scaring shareholders into getting rid of their stocks at lower price, which finally covers their shorts, for real.
Easy, Efficient and damn ruthless.
That is what HTDS is after: Can't wait to see what they will do...
Who is twisting info here, you or HTDS? HTDS would not be on the Short list because HTDS is NOT a reporting OTCBB ...yet.
Thanks, but this ha snothing to do with luck. I am up tens of thousands on HTDS and CAVIT, so its your words against my money!! Guess what I choose...
Lol.
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Tough to buy cheap HTDS shares today, even though conditions would be perfect before a long week end and a tipsee stock market. I have a 1M shares order sitting, and no biter.
Holding hands are strong and we have a very good, solid bottom at these levels, from which we will climb to the next level very soon.
Points well taken repair7. While I don't soelely rely on potential EPS to invest on Pink Sheet, or Stocks, the exercice of calculating the PPS is a way to assess how much hype vs. real value the PPS is relying on. At current levels, HTDS is fairly valued, and though this may change very rapidly on Pink Sheets, the bottom line is the same: Revenues generate Valuation for a stock.
When the news come, we'll be prepared and not shocked to see HTDS reach the next level of fair valuation.
Here is how HTDS will be worth .12 SOON.
Typical margin for flu shots goe sin upward of 80%, that's 8$ for a typical $10 flu shot. HTDS already has contracted 250,000 flu shots to Chili(2009-08-07 13:03 ET - News Release) which is worth $4,000,000 in NET earnings, and aan EPS of .0012 and with a sector-conservative 10 multiplier, an EPS of .012.
That is the PPS right now.
Now here comes the POTENTIALLY BIG news, as announced on 2009-08-07 13:03 ET - News Release:
The company is pleased to report that the company has made a significant progress to secure these couple of interests in Chile. Mellow Hope is tendering between 2,000,000 to 5,000,000 doses of Flu vaccine, for the Chilean market.[/B]
If HTDs secured this contract, the EPS and PPS would go up TENFOLDs! we are talking 12 PENNIES.
Easy like ABC....
Comparing Sinovac and HTDS is ludicrous.
They are however in the same business, and we can learn about HTDS' potential from Sinovac filing. For instance, a single flu shot represent about $10 in income, with a profit margin between 80-85%, again based on Sinovac filling! Ceteris paribus (if we are indeed to compare), the 46,000 shots delivery that HTDS announced this week represent $400,000 in income!
For the sake of valuation, lets push the exercise and say that HTDS delivered 500,000 flu shots this year, a very realistic figure given that they already tender 250,000 flu shots just for the Chilian market (2009-08-07 13:03 ET - News Release). We are talking $5,000,0000 in revenues, with $4,250,000 in profit. This repesents an EPS of about .0008, with a multiplier of 15 (like Sinovec), we are talking about a PPS of .012.
In other wrods, at almost current level of production in FLU shots, HTDS has a fair PPS value at .012.
Now here comes the POTENTIALLY BIG news, as announced on 2009-08-07 13:03 ET - News Release:
The company is pleased to report that the company has made a significant progress to secure these couple of interests in Chile. Mellow Hope is tendering between 2,000,000 to 5,000,000 doses of Flu vaccine, for the Chilean market.[/B]
If HTDs secured thiscontract, the EPS and PPS would go up TENFOLDs! we are talking 12 PENNIES.
Do your own maths, and you will see...HTDS Garbage??? Quite the Opposite: This is a timing bomb waiting to explode....
JIMHO
See Skymarkrserach's report on HTDs: Next
to BOEING, Freddie MAck, Fanny Bay and othe rBIG guns.
Cool.
http://www.skymarkresearch.com./htds.pdf
I Think REALCBROWN was right: .05 minimum in the short term, and I would add, prior to the conference...
Amercian Bulls has a BUY IF signal for HTDS.
Looks like this morning news will be the CONFIRMATION of the BUY-IF signal.
http://www.americanbulls.com/StockPage.asp?CompanyTicker=HTDS&MarketTicker=OTC&TYP=S
Looks like HTDS is going to RUN today, based on NEWS confirming that HTDS is a Legit Company.
BALANCED SHEET : $3M
NET EARNINGS of 250,000 JUST FOR Q2!!!!!
CASH FLOW end of JUNE : $250,000!!
As predicted, at leats 1M NET earnings yearly, BEFORE new contracts.
If you held through the day, sleep tight. Next week, we all are going to be rewarded.
Sloth,
they never said earnings would not be good! All they said is they would, of course, not include recently announced contracts.... again, based on known and public information, Mellow Hopes past earnings justify a NET EPS of .005, which justifies a .05 PPS with a conservative 10X multiplier.
And all that, WITHOUT recently announced contracts. That is what HTDS was trying to tell us, short of being able to say it.
Do you own math and consider where this is going...UP!!
Go Girl,
problem is with you rationale: The Earning News is not out Yet. Selling would be Monday, not today, IF earning are not good.
Rather, today was LAST chance to get IN before earnings. Check Monday morning: A HARD RUSH INTO HTDS.
Reverse Psychology.
HTDS wants to reward medium term and long investors...they could have run it hard today, without any mention of the filing, and then dump it...but they did not. They WARNED the day traders, who got out...only to keep longer hands in the stock for more short and longer term gain. The stock has washed off a lot of trader ands today, and the current price is a very healthy basis for the enxt move up. I bet Monday will have anothe rpress release, with great News regrading the new contracts....
My bet is: Based on known Mellon Hope only, NET EPS of .005 are more than sufficientto support a .05 PPS, based on a conservative 10X multiplier.
GLTA
I'm personally sitting on my shares and watching the fireworks for the next few days!! Inevitable.
realc ... the fraud was obvious then, but Judge Hurley did not want anything to do with it. Now if HTDS has deep pocket, they could sue again and get Tubercin's rights back, but frankly, I don't think its worth it or that HTDS/Mellow needs it! There is in my opinion larger value in the 2 gallons of foam recycling solution that a billion gallon of Tubercin!
solid accumulation and resistance in high .013s. Will run again toward close today.
Big Money From Asia. The major index in China is up 100% since its low in March. There is a huge cash flow in Chinese trader's hands, and Mellow Hope is undoubtedly attracting interest in China. We are on for a real, nice, long ride.
here comes .014..your 7M shares will be gobble like little candies, and sorry but, we won't see you here again, unless you rebuy at higher price!
Well congratulations to you for holding, but not all have the same guts, or inside knowledge, so to speak.
Some profit taking is healthy. The essential is, the buying is not subsiding, new hands are taking the baton, for the next run.
I think a lot of guys who bought at .0004 have already sold! There has been a number of corrections on the way up. Whoever has held through those to this point will not sell when the momentum is still strong.
JIMHO
You probably mean the other way around: Three at the Bid and one at the ask!!
BRO... not penny plus... PENNIES PLUS.
"...our PENNIES PLUS set targeted SHARE PRICE...:
See for yourself, in todays' News:
At HTDS and here in China we continue business as usual focusing on daily operations. Our extensive audit and investigation on these five (5) issued patents started months ago. There are many outstanding follow up matters which we intend to fully follow up with such as: CEO message from both operating subsidiaries Slavica Bio Chem in Serbia and Mellow Hope in China, our financial filings due shortly, pending legal opinion on the filed adequate disclosure, update on the slander lawsuit where HTDS is one of several beneficiaries, forward guidance, our pennies plus set targeted share price to name a few. Over the course of time we will be providing all of these updates on a timely basis including new, and pending contracts, and progresses we made so far. This is truly an exciting time to be part of the HTDS organization, and we appreciate all of our shareholders and followers sharing that joy mutually with us"
NEXT STEP: Q2 FINANCIALS
The news stream is not running out yet. The Q2 filing, pending, will make HTDS a reporting company, and investors will be able to gage the true potential of this new venture.
I will hold until Q2 id filled, and that should pop this thing over .02, easily.
American Bulls has posted a HOLD on HTDS. Looks like the ride up has stalled for now and yesterday'S buyer are all getting ready to dump...
http://www.americanbulls.com/StockPage.asp?CompanyTicker=HTDS&MarketTicker=OTC&TYP=S