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Have the bashers taken over this board as much as they have the Yahoo board?
We must be close!
:) GL all, I can't wait.
Ms. Casspi is still mastering the English language by practicing on monthly reports. Not sure about Lighthipe - there is no headquarters anymore, so who knows.
his question was whether or not it will go to $.10, not whether or not he should sell.
good try labeling me as a basher - i hold shares and if you really want to know, have been trying to get rid of them for days now.
would you like to buy them?
Why would you care if someone wanted to sell?
Easy answer...
Grush, make your own decision w/o listening to certain people here. GLTY
I have always gotten plenty of laughs when reading the MRs, so from a comedy standpoint, gotta hand it to CNES.
Ms. Caspi got no A's in English class, I can tell you that! I used to think about offering to write them for the company many years ago.
Seems to me he's been in for the long haul since the beginning though. I know because I went back and read literally every post on this board from the beginning when I first came aboard (took me HOURS). Over the years there were tons of times when there were pumpers coming around to try and do their dirty work and he was the guy telling them to go away and that they were full of $hit. He's been the most level headed guy I've read. I can see why you may think that if you have only been around/read recent posts, but I respect what he has to say and don't believe he is IR.
Could be wrong obviously, but I just didn't see him that way. Others, yes.
P.S. From reading back through your posts here (hard since you have so damn many on all types of boards; only had to hit Previous 50 about 10000000 times lol), it is clear you've been one of the more knowledgeable people doing DD on Conectisys as well.
If they had a product that works as well if not better than others on the market and at a much lower cost, then I'm sorry, but they would've struck a deal in the almost 15 years of trying. I'm a student of economics and a believer in markets (as imperfect as they can be sometimes). This company has essentially had zero sales in its history. How can you tell me with a straight face that their product works better than others at a cheaper cost? Every company in the world is looking for that...
Truth be told, this company has treated their shareholders like absolute garbage for many years now and it has only gotten worse with time - now they don't file with the SEC and have zero investor relations; I've emailed the company now multiple times in the past few years and have received ZERO responses. I've called their phone numbers and gotten no answer and no call backs.
It's always darkest before the dawn, but hell, I'd rather move my money to Itron whose company is 100x more transparent, credible, and successful; that'd only be if I were a believer in the industry as a whole, which I am not. The only reason I'd held out all these years was because I was stubborn.
"Giving away" my stock would've been when it hit $.001 a few months ago. At a nickel or dime, that's a far better deal.
Sorry for venting my frustration, but some people on here are obvious pumpers and I don't appreciate being taken for a(n) (fill in the blank). To the few of you who are honest and good-intentioned (like OTC, Z, and Lister to name a few who come to mind), I hope one day I type in CONC and see that it is flying high; and I'll be happy to know you guys got what you deserve.
GLTA regardless of what I do, and who knows, maybe I'll stick around a little while longer; doubtful I'll admit, but possible, even if I only hold a couple thousand shares.
-B
Never been to that site so that wouldn't be it. I cleared it anyways and got the same thing:
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY SECTOR
ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT, INSTRUMENTS & COMPONENTS INDUSTRY
Itron Inc. (ITRI:NASDAQ)
LAST $59.51 USD
CHANGE TODAY +2.23 3.89%
VOLUME 974.5K
ITRI On Other Exchanges
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2111 North Molter Road
Liberty Lake, WA 99019
United States
Phone: 509-924-9900
Fax: 509-891-3355
www.itron.com
Itron, Inc. provides products and services to utilities for the energy and water markets worldwide. It produces electricity, gas, water, and heat meters; and various other associated metering products for residential, commercial and industrial (C&I), and transmission and distribution customers. The company offers electronic electricity meters with and without automated meter reading (AMR); gas and water AMR modules; handheld, mobile, and network AMR data collection technologies; advanced metering infrastructure technologies; electromechanical electricity meters; mechanical and ultrasonic water and heat meters; diaphragm, turbine, and rotary gas meters; one-way and two-way electricity prepayment systems, including smart key, keypad, and smart card; and two-way gas prepayment systems using smart card. It also provides solutions for residential and C&I meter data management; consulting and analysis services; professional services that assist customers in installing and maintaining meter reading systems; managed services that include the issuing of prepayment devices, automated processing of transaction details, customer account management, maintenance of historical financial transactions, business to business call centers, and personalized mailing services. In addition, the company offers software knowledge applications, including modules for C&I complex billing; Web-based usage analysis for customers with advanced metering data; distribution asset analysis; load research and management; revenue protection, including theft detection and identification of unbilled revenue; and central market data collection and load settlement. Itron sells its products through direct sales force, distributors, representative agencies, partners, and meter manufacturer representatives, as well as through original equipment manufacturer arrangements with various meter manufacturers.
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IMHO Conectisys has no shot. Finding out they now have no office and no business prospects that we can confirm other than their word (which I have lost all trust in over the years) has been quite disheartening. I'm about 99% I'm going to call it a history with this company this week. I've been thinking about it now for a few weeks, but I think the time has come for me to move on. It will inevitably mean that the pps will rocket once I sell; that's the way it works.
GLTA and may you be stronger than I am. Years of heartache only to be teased with all this China nonsense lately has taken my last hopes out of me. Who would do business with this company when there are other real companies in this industry.
I think I'll at least get a tax write off. That's all Conectisys has given me.
Where? I'm not seeing that.
All I see on the right for competitors:
Badger Meter Inc $40.90 USD -0.73
ESCO Technologies Inc $43.79 USD +1.18
Mueller Water Products Inc $3.90 USD -0.10
National Instruments Corp (Texas) $23.39 USD +0.09
Roper Industries Inc $47.41 USD +0.21
As investors, don't we have every right to ask the company for information? They are using our money not to mention getting paid with it. They have an obligation (should be a legal one if it weren't for their being delisted) to do so IMO.
Truth be told, I am getting ready to move on; this roller coaster few months has taken the last hopes I had out of me I think.
Either way, I wish everyone good luck and it's been nice interacting with you all on this scavenger hunt.
-b
I just meant that they haven't even been addressed in any way and I had been hoping for more information in the last 2 months' reports. After many reports in a row with no sign of any product sales, I was happy to see the April report, but now it doesn't seem nearly so promising without any additional information.
What happened to all the proposals from the April report - it wasn't just Hensheng Tongda who was on there. Now the "Volume Release" is completely empty?
No idea which way is right... I'm holding for now though
That's alot of assumptions
1. We don't know with any degree of certainty that Conectisys didn't get scammed - for all we know, Bob paid them money to do whatever and lost it. It could have gone either way.
2. There is nothing truly substantive in this news other than promises and aspirations we've been hearing for years.
3. We have every right to complain about what has happened. To think otherwise is curious to me regardless of what your opinion is on the new developments
I love how they spent our money going to Beijing without doing DD on the company in addition to plastering agreements all over the internet. We're back right where we started essentially. This University thing sounds like it was done only to assure shareholders that their money wasn't completely thrown down the drain.. just my opinion though.
I wish everyone good luck. I've had about all I can handle with this and don't know if I will continue holding my shares
I find it personally hilarious that you think I'm IR. Carry on.
Call me baffled at the newest development - worst communication ever by a company?
You got it! I saw you are in Switzerland, Lister. What part? While I was living in Florence, I went to the Alps for a weekend and had a great time. Amazing place.
Thanks OTC, it went well I think (I hope?). We'll see what happens. I need a job damn it!
Going to try and get a hold of Mr. Cote here and see what he has to say.
In other news, I had a very small open order at .12 to try and gauge what the MMs are thinking. Figured if they took it out that it might mean something good? Well, at 3 pm on the dot, my order was taken out even as the pps stayed at .1
A good sign? Not sure. We can hope though
Have a good weekend everyone! It's been quite a few weeks for us ConcHeads.
-B
Good news, bad news.
I heard back from Mr. Cote but he just said to call him in about a half hour. I have a job interview (fingers crossed) I'm about to walk out the door for, though, so I will not be able to call him. Does anyone else want to? I'm not sure I should post his phone # on here, but if you want to post an email address I can send it over. It'd have to be in the next 10 or 15 minutes because then I'll have to leave
Thanks very much. I found an email for him so I'll let y'all know what, if anything, I hear.
Man I was going to post the same thing yesterday. The computer I use no longer lets me go to the Conectisys website because it says there is a trojan horse there.
I had to use my other computer that I worry less about to look at some of the PDFs.
Weird stuff - I was going to say something here and ask if anyone else had it happen but figured it was just me..
Have you heard from him, OTC?
This whole thing gets weirder and weirder every day. But I'm glad you guys seem to be taking it in stride. Makes me feel a little better.
And it looks like as much in the dark as Spigno and Co. are I would bet
It seems like the moderators go to the most senior people on the board maybe?
If not by next week then I don't know
We will have to hope for the best
I doubt it, why would spigno do that and completely finish his company
Next week could be the one
Guys. You know who you are. Got something. Please post an email where I can reach you more privately
Good points as always, Z.
You are right. Thanks for being the voice of reason.
I knew there was a reason I liked you!
Since Praxis and OTC are fellow moderators and I'm assuming you all know each other pretty well, I'm assuming you're talking about me?
I've lost thousands of dollars in CNES/CONC since buying in late '04 (at first I thought it had been in '03) because I believed in their product. Owned millions of shares at some points..
So just a little upset to see such promising developments only to see little in the way of verification of what's going on. Sorry if I offended you or anyone else; not sure how I would've, but if it is me you were referring to, I apologize that you think I'm only a daytrader. I had just recently found out about this board when searching for info following the China order in the Apr report
Good luck to you Z (as I had mentioned in my first or 2nd post here) and to everyone else as well!
Was wondering about this, lately, so glad you mentioned that.
With the name change, does that change anything from a legal perspective since he has signed all the Conectisys/HCC papers with the name Robert Spigno?
Good posts, guys. Thanks for the thoughts
I'm stuck here in Illinois, so a trip to Cali is not in the cards for me. But I'm hoping that someone can follow up further if they are closer.
This whole thing has me a little concerned/annoyed, but whatcha gonna do? Let's hope for the best and hopefully one of us will get a response from somebody. Lord knows I'll be calling Conectisys' offices and all their extensions every day from here on out.
(I use the term 'offices' loosely, of course lol)
I sent an email to that address too, but needless to say, I'm not holding my breath for a response
Interesting about the Middle Section thing though, I had seen other addresses like that but they all still had a # too and not just a section. At least maybe it's a real place though
No answer there either, but that must be the right one.
The other # was for a Jason (Jay Koo) - got the voice mail on that one but Loochies' was an automated voicemail.
Have you tried calling him ever?
What "company" isn't open or answering phones at 2:50 pm California time? I tried EVERY extension.
So who lives near California, and is it really possible that this WHOLE thing was made up? I feel like it would be stupid beyond belief to have done that unless they have all skipped out of the country.
P.S. I'm getting a *little* angry here, how about y'all?
On Henshengtongda's website (well, Conectisys' website)
the contact info for Henshengtongda is
MIDDLE SECTION Fengtai North Road, Beijing, China
You're telling me this Chinese company (which I cannot even find a TRACE of on Google) has an address of MIDDLE SECTION? Do they do things differently in Beijing?
Not looking good, folks. I called Conectisys and got no answer as well for any of the extensions I tried
So my next question is, who knows a good lawyer? Because we're about to get to that point
If this is indeed a scam, these ****s need to be locked up
Yeah I know you had mentioned that before. Sorry, didn't mean to look like I'm doubting you...
just Luca he might've been out partying a bit too hard the night before or something and forgotten what month it was
Good find - had not noticed the purchasing agreement comment in that PR.
That would seem to indicate to me that maybe Spigno DID go to Beijing in April and not May (as the Asia Website says)?
This whole thing seems like a Conectisys-type of fishy that we have seen before...
*still have fingers crossed*
-B