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What did the mm structure look like on the L2 at eod here, guys? Looked to me like the mm's were shaking out shares all day long, eh? Thanks in advance
As optimistic as I try to be about this company's potential, I have to agree with you about the way that this was released. If this is what I think it is, that being a way for Shipley to bring in dollars to keep BCLE viable until contracts come in, why did he not mention that in a positive light during the radio interview? Or, at least, put the pr out in a positive manner that reflected that this is a good thing for BCLE?
Hopefully, we will see another pr on Monday that will shed some more light on what they are trying to accomplish here, and that will allay some of the confusion. There certainly is nothing illegal about forming another corporation with other investors and selling a privately held company to it to raise working capital for BCLE, but clarification to that effect would be great.
Or, even better, a pr telling us that instead of just buying ABT, that BOCL now wants to purchase the entire company (BCLE) for .15 a share! Come on! That's a bargain based on the potential pps discussed on the Chippas show! Now THAT would be sweet.
The key point here is that they are NOT selling off American Bio-Clean Corporation, as that is the entity with the exclusive rights to the bio-remediation cleaning solutions.
It appears that they are doing exactly that, mizarc. Pay close attention to what is going to happen here.......They are ONLY selling off American Bio-Tech Cleaning, Inc.(ABT). They are NOT selling the SDVOSB entity, which is American Bio-Clean Corporation (ABC). ABT is the manufacturing arm for the weapons and part cleaning machines and fluids, but ABC is the marketing and distribution entity for those products, and is the vehicle without which none of the large projects that are in the works would be possible. THIS IS NOT BAD NEWS AT ALL! In fact, the way that they are going about this is an excellent way for them to restructure financially to remain viable until the projects come through.
By the way, anyone who has not listened to the interview should do so, and pay close attention to the project that BCLE is currently involved in with the Fortune 500 company in the Northeast having to do with contaminated soil cleanup. This, in my opinion, could turn out to be one of the biggest revenue producers down the road for BCLE.
Take a look at the YTD charts and see what happened to this stock over the next 4 months after they were on his show several times, beginning in January. The pps was lower than it is right now, with significantly less volume, and considerably less in potential $$$$$ in the pipeline, and the pps saw a 2500% increase from it's low of .006 in Feb. over the 4 month period.
I guess I would say, based on that performance, that this guy's show is a step in the right direction. I suppose I would be okay with 2500% from this point by Feb. 2010, wouldn't you?
"My commitment to integrity has never been questioned by anyone. I guess there is always a first time."
For an individual to appear out of nowhere on a stock message board and begin posting negative comments such as yours, and to then become defensive when those comments are questioned is, in my opinion, beyond laughable. Do you presume, sir, that we should automatically take your words as fact, when your user ID was just created on Sept. 28th of this year? If, as you say, your objective is to "not lie and only post to inform and insure everyone gets a fair shake.", then I, for one, would ask that you post some specific facts to back up your negativity, instead of vague generalities.
With due respect, I would also question why you have just recently decided that you have an obligation to alert all of us who are "naive posters" to the hazards of Shipley and Co.? You apparently have a long-standing relationship with him and his dastardly doings, and as an officer and a gentleman one would like to believe that your concern would have been voiced long before now, particularly for the benefit of those of us who have been brothers-in-arms in defense of our country.
I, sir, will take with a large grain of salt EVERY post on this board until the moment that I am able to, through proper research, ascertain it's factual integrity, and I find it curious that you should take offense at anyone who does so.
If you are willing to be more specific, we would all be eternally grateful for the information. Until then, however, I can only presume that you are just another faceless basher trying to scoop up more cheap shares.
Integrity first, service before self, and excellence in all we do. Words to live by in the U.S. Air Force, and as a civilian.
Wow, the bashers are really coming out of the woodwork early on this run, aren't they? They're just upset because they didn't get all the shares that they wanted at .013 before it started going back up again, lol. Watch for increased volume and share price as month end draws near.
Thank you for the great compilation of information! All of us who can see past the nose on our faces understand that there are GREAT things in store for BCLE, and that all that is required is some patience to reap HUGE rewards on our investment.
Unfortunately, there are very obviously some daytraders out there who have discovered that it is a good idea to buy into this stock every time it hits .013-.0135 and then dump out of it when it inevitably hits .015-.017 for a quick 20-25% profit, and it would not surprise me AT ALL to find out that the naysayers on this board are doing JUST THAT.
Thanks again for your optimism, and keep holding strong! The more of us that do, the fewer shares will be available for the bottom-feeders.
Z, it appears we have another joining the ranks of Chinadude, kishmech and daylite. Just wanted to make sure that you knew that this guy is NOT me with a slightly different user ID, lol.
Good to see another voice of reason here, redman. Thanks for your service to our country.
The ONLY reason that I am choosing to respond to the both of you is for the benefit of others on this board, and NOT in an attempt to defend myself against the likes of a couple of incessant bashers such as yourselves. I, unlike you, have been consistently optimistic and positive concerning BCLE and it's stock in EVERY post that I have put on this board. The only negativity that I have ever expressed is with those of you who consistently seek to complain that the stock price is not doing what you want it to. In your attempts to make the rest of us miserable, you make statements that are factually incorrect (such as claiming that I EVER said anything about Shipley buying shares, which I did NOT, and I defy you to show the post where I did) or are completely unverifiable (such as your claim that Shipley told you this or told you that in a conversation that you had with him about contracts that had been awarded) or are statements of your own opinions that you present as fact (such as that they are dumping shares in an effort to dilute the share price) or are unreasonably inflamed and angry based on information that came from unverifiable sources (such as whether or not Shipley has INDEED bought or sold even one share that he needs to do a filing for).
You make these statements which are angry, accusatory, misleading and innacurate, and then you get bent out of shape when someone (me) calls you on them? Then you have the nerve to accuse me of somehow being directly involved with the company and it's "schemes"? The fact of the matter is that none of us, not me nor you, has any idea where all of the large blocks of shares that have traded hands recently are coming from, or where they're going. But you have taken it upon yourselves to state it as fact that Shipley is somehow directly involved in some underhanded way. While that may, indeed, turn out to be true, IT IS NOT KNOWN FOR A FACT at this time.
The people on this board deserve better than the likes of that. They deserve to have a forum wherein they can discuss, with reason, factual and verifiable information concerning this and other companies, without having to be constantly inundated with unsubstantiated innuendo and slanderous comments that serve no constructive purpose whatsoever.
I have now grown bored with you and your petty complaining, and will not again dignify you with any response. Good day to you.
I swear, sometimes I wonder if you can possibly be more than 12 years old, when you continue to demand the "promised contracts"!!! Your inability to distinguish between bidding on contracts and actually being awarded contracts is frustrating to say the least, and borders on libelous behavior at it's worst, IMO. It does not surprise me in the least that no one at the company is willing to speak with you if you are as illogical with them as you are on this board.
Post a link to even ONE press release that has promised a specific contract being awarded that was indeed not factual, and I will take all this back. Until then, grow up and quit making things up to try and scare other investors off so that you can buy more cheap shares.
In response to your questions :
#1 - I have searched pr's back to July 8th and cannot find any reference to orders from a Fortune 500 company, so I don't know what you're talking about on that one.
#2 - The fact that they are bidding on contracts is not a guarantee that they are going to get any of them, and no promises have been made to that effect. And, by the way, government contracts in many cases can take as long as six months to be awarded, depending on the nature of the project.
#3 - I cannot speak to whatever conversations you or others have had with Jim Shipley concerning his purchase of shares, but, once again, I would say that you should be willing to take personal responsibility for whatever decisions you have made in relation to your investment in this company based on those conversations.
One point that I would like to make here......The teaming agreement with Powell Royalty, LLC (from yesterday's pr) confirms EXACTLY what Tammy Dunn told me in my conversation with her a while back. She informed me in that conversation that John Finn was in the process of developing business partners in the gulf region for the Smartpipe technology and that we would be seeing pr's in the coming months to that effect.
As negatively as you seem to want to portray this company, it absolutely boggles my mind that you say that you own 5 million shares. Who in their right mind would continue to buy stock in a company that they feel is being as deceptive as you think BCLE has been?
Do you actually expect that there is anyone on this board that believes you?
Feel free to express your disgust, though I doubt that anyone is taking you seriously anymore..... I know that I'm not.
People just don't realize how huge this news is. Louisiana and other gulf states have massive amounts of gas lines that are located in wetland areas that, by law, cannot be disturbed to replace aging pipes because of environmental restrictions. The Smartpipe technology offers the solution, and now the teaming agreement with Powell offers the way into the Louisiana pipeline system. This is just the tip of the iceberg on just one of the major projects that BCLE has in the works.
These folks at BCLE just continue to show me that they are constantly working to develop new business relationships that are going to pay off BIG as the economy recovers.
Waaaaaaaaaaah, waaaaaaaaaah, waaaaaaaaaah, cry me a river! I didn't hear you complaining two weeks ago when this was up in the mid and high 3's, now did I? I presume that you could have sold then for a nice little profit, unless you're in at such a high share price that you still couldn't get out even, but if that's the case then you have nobody to blame but yourself for not averaging down while the price was in the toilet for two months prior to this last little run.
I hate it for you if you got yourself in too deep on this one, but ya know, it's the nature of the beast with pinksheets, the higher the risk, the more potential for gain or loss. Maybe you weren't aware of that, and that's why you have 5 million shares of this company in your portfolio????
I'm frustrated by the way this stock is moving, too, but really, let's be willing to take some personal responsibility here, eh?
It's okay, Z, morecrazy is just another non-entity in the world of BCLE, lol. A mere speck in the grand scheme of things, so to speak. Annoying, to be sure, but insignificant nonetheless. Evidently, he did not read the annual report after it was released several weeks ago, in which Mr. Shipley plainly stated that the company would continue to raise $1 to $2 mil in capital through the remainder of this year, and I quote Item XVI, par. B;
"The company is planning an initial private capital raise during the remainder of 2009 of $1,000,000 to $2,000,000 in an equity offering. Proceeds from this capital raise will be used to further implement the Company's Business Plan."
They key word here is PRIVATE. As in, selling privately held shares of stock, not shares that are included in the public float. That's why these large blocks of shares are able to be sold at a specific price without affecting the pps either up or down.
Thus, there is no dilution to the value of the shares that we, the public, now hold.
Another block sale of 14.3 mil at .019, wth? Gotta be the company selling blocks of this size to raise capital, BUT......it's a very good sign that they obviously have enough good things in the works that they are finding large-scale buyers willing to invest at these levels.
Still holding long and strong!
What'd I tell you, folks? The perfect formation of the handle for our "cup & handle" chart configuration (re. post #2099). All we need now is a good pr over the weekend or before open on Mon., and we are off to the races, and maybe even without the pr due to those who will buy in simply based on the chart.
Have a great weekend everybody. Good luck next week.
When I saw your post, I couldn't believe my eyes, till I went to Allpennystocks.com and checked the L2's and saw that you are correct Sir! Or Ma'am! What a rush!
All I can hope is that we have a great pr coming, and that the handle formation is through and it's up from here. Can't see another reason for someone to want to buy in that desperately in after-market.
Pre-market in the a.m. should be very telling tomorrow.
Good luck everyone!
You have to admit, though, people buy on rumor and sell on news. A fact-based pr such as this serves to educate potential buyers as to how much money is truly available in the SDVOSB arena, and the direct connection between those dollars and BCLE and their affiliates.
Bear in mind that we may just be in the process of forming the handle for a "cup and handle" chart, with the real breakout coming within the next week or so, so don't get discouraged if the pps goes down even more over the next few days.
I agree completely that someone was intentionally manipulating the pps today, keeping it low so that they could buy more. As I watched it throughout the day, I kept noticing that each time it started to climb up, a sale for 400 or 500 shares would go through at the bid, dragging it down. Who the hell was only holding 400 or 500 shares of this stock that they so desperately had to sell at that price? Their huge $12 or $15 holding was going to be lost? So they had to pay commissions and sell it that badly? People, please!!!!!
So who was doing the manipulating, you may ask? Gee, do you suppose it could be the folks at OTC Reporter who plainly state in their disclosure that they will purchase shares in the profiled company on the open market without any notification to the company itself? Seems perfectly logical to me that they would want to load up as cheaply as possible before the run. And mark my words, there IS a run coming, and that right soon.
No worries at this point, as the Hototc and Stockegg mentions were only that and not paid pumps. Saw someone in the Stockhideout chat mention last night that BCLE was one of their (Stockhideout's) picks for today. Can anyone confirm this?
Good luck today, everybody, hope it's a good one!
Stockegg.com, also:
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Check out BCLE, the volume is increasing and it`s slowly trending higher. The company came out with some news Friday.
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LOL, speak of the devil........that's a step in the right direction, for sure! Thanks Chuck!
Nice work, Chuck, thanks for the analysis. I think that whoever is working that 300k buy is in it for the next pr, whatever that might be, because yesterday's pr was certainly not big enough to warrant a buy of that size. Gotta say, though, they are playing this perfectly, with the timing of the annual report and yesterday's pr combining with their buy to create a daily increasing interest in the stock and the formation of absolutely one of the most perfect charts I have ever seen.
This is shaping up to be, IMO, one of the most explosive rallies that I have ever seen. With one or two good pr's, I honestly think that we could see this baby go 500%-1000% from today's close, if they are released next week while the momentum is still growing exponentially, and for that reason, I am canceling the sell that I originally had set for half my shares at .0834 and am going to hold out for double that (or more, if it keeps cranking) on my entire holding.
Just my .02, lol. Good luck to everyone!
Don't know if I agree with you on the covering shorts theory, as anyone who needed to cover shorts has had at least a month at considerably lower levels than .02 where they could have covered and made more money. I suppose it is a possibility, but IMO, this was either a MM getting set for a big run up next week, or someone who is a lot closer to the company than we are who is aware of some VERY big news that is going to be pr'd this week.
Either way, I'm happy to be here!!!!!! GLTA, SEE YA AT THE BANK!!!!
I'm going to give this a tentative "Wooooooo Hoooooooo!", glad to see they finally came through on pinksheets, and glad you guys stuck around for what I'm sure is to come in the next few weeks with just a little good pr.
I am having difficulty understanding why you and ChinaDude want to call Shipley a liar? According to his (ChinaDude's) post on July 1st, he had just spoken to Jim, who told him that the audit would begin that week. Your post following that (and information posted later by someone, I don't recall who it was) recognized that we could be as much as 60 days out on the results.
As of today, we are not even 45 days out from the start of the audit, and the company is lying to us?????? How did we get to that? Remember, Tammy said that she hoped the stop sign would be off by Friday, there were no guarantees.
Call this board sad if you want, but you sure spend a hell of a lot of time here, so you figure it out.
Glad to see you voice your enthusiasm! There are many people here who agree with you that this stock is a long hold and has tremendous potential, but prepare yourself for the imminent bashing of your optimistic outlook.
I personally am a little disappointed that the audit has not been posted to pinksheets.com as hoped, but I understand that the status of the audit is out of the company's hands and will be finished when it is finished. I am willing to wait and see what happens over the next couple of weeks before I contemplate any changes in my stake in the company.
Gee willakers, I guess you told ME alright............roflmao
I'm sorry, I must have missed something.......Do I work for you? I mean, if I did, I could see you trying to tell me what to do, but since I don't, I'll talk with Tammy again when I feel it necessary to do so. When I do, I don't know that I'll share the information with this board, since there seems to be a real lack of appreciation for the effort here on the parts of some individuals.
Those of us that choose to remain optimistic about this stock can continue to do so, and those of you who wish to trash it will continue regardless of what information I may or may not bring to the table anyway, so what's the difference?
Thanks!
The reason that you have been labeled a "basher", at least in my opinion, is that you seek to dredge up old news in an attempt to destroy confidence in the company and the people involved with it. While I have no doubt in the factual references that you repeatedly bring up in your negative posts, I know from personal experiences that many, many entrepreneurs fail in multiple ventures before they succeed in just one, and that alone should not be the basis for the decision to invest or believe in the present company.
The fact that you are oblivious to (and, it seems, wish to patently ignore) the successful marketing efforts that are in the works as we speak, not the least of which was the recent conference in Las Vegas, the expansion of distribution channels with the recent opening of the east coast center in Charleston, SC (which, by the way, is moving to an even larger warehouse facility ALREADY, per my conversation with Tammy the other day), the company's efforts to rectify their standing on pinksheets by paying for an independent audit, their pursuit and approval of preferential SDVOSB status to facilitate successful bidding on government contracts and their partnering with several potentially HUGE companies in furtherance of that objective, and their ongoing sales of weapons cleaning machines and fluids which are in use at multiple facilities around the world already, quite simply shows me that this company could find a way to turn dog turds into gold and it would not, in your mind, be a good reason to invest in them.
You seek to convince everyone that this is nothing more than a shell company that is run by a scam artist and a crook, and yet, by their actions, they prove you wrong on a daily basis. A shell company does not form partnerships with respected entities such as Smart Pipe, Inc. and Abrams Group, LLC to bid on contracts. They do not open distribution centers for their fake products and invite stockholders to come see their facilities. They do not pay large amounts of money for independent audits of their phony books. They do not rent booth space at the largest government-buyer attended conference in the US to display their non-existent technologies, and so on and so on.
I can say that I, and probably others, would not consider you (and the others of like mind concerning BCLE) a basher if you could bring yourself to acknowledge the very positive steps which are being taken to make this a profitable company. Perhaps it is just that you and I perceive past events differently, which is not unusual, but to completely dismiss this company's potential with that as your sole basis is, in my opinion, short-sighted.
I beg to differ with you that my posts contain no facts. While it's true that I am optimistic about the future of this company, every word of what I put in today's post concerning my conversation with Tammy is factually accurate. I have not, nor will I ever, pump a stock. All I do is express my opinion based on the research that I do on my own. Obviously you and I have come to entirely different conclusions as to the potential for BCLE, and I respect that. You're free to do as you wish, obviously.
My objective in speaking with Tammy today was to try and provide some answers to those of us who have been curious as to the status of the audit which we knew was in progress, and, having spent years in executive levels of management, I knew enough not to call the president of the company to get questions answered concerning investor issues. That's what the "investor relations" department is for, and that's why it only took me one polite, professional call to get the answers that we were looking for.
Look, if you bought in at prices that were higher than they are now, welcome to the club that about 99% of investors belong to, lol. We've all had stocks that we bought in too high and had to take some type of a bath on. But to rant and rave about the fact that you are being a constant pain in the a** to the people who are busy trying to, as Tammy told me today, make sales and increase revenue for the benefit of everyone involved with the company, simply proves to me that you have no concept of what is involved in the day-to-day pursuit of a profitable business.
Nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to buy this particular stock at whatever price you may have paid for it, and that's the bottom line.
Alright folks, here is some good news! I just got off the phone with Tammy Dunn (investor relations), and she told me that the audit for pinksheets.com will be finalized tomorrow or Monday, and that they're hoping to have the "stop" sign removed by tomorrow, and that this is absolutely THE priority right now.
She also said that John Finn is working directly with some major prospective clients on the east coast and in Louisiana, and that pr's should follow in the coming weeks concerning the fantastic response that was garnered at the conference in Vegas and the deals that are in the works right now.
She reiterated that they are focused totally on building the company and generating revenues, and that they will continue to run the business with that, and not the stock price, as their primary objective.
She offered to set up a meeting for me with Rick White, the gentleman who is heading up their distribution center in Charleston, SC, as I am located within just several hour's drive from there, if I so desire. She also invited me to stop into their offices in Huntington Beach the next time I am visiting my brother outside of San Diego, as they have an "open door" policy and are happy to meet any of their shareholders at any time.
I have owned several businesses of my own over the years, and in my opinion, this company is the real deal and has great potential for those who can be patient. I don't think that it's going to skyrocket overnight, but in the longer term, I think it's a great company to own stock in. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND, AND DON'T LET THE BASHERS RUN YOU OFF.
Ok, thanks. Appreciate the info.
Could you be a little more specific, please? Can you see that for a fact, or is that just speculation?
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, lol. You'll be that much richer when we hit .05 and above next week. I expect some good pr out of this week's conference and investor's forum, and have bumped up my sell price (for some of my shares) accordingly. See you all at the bank!
The fact that they have compensated with some restricted shares may be true, but restricted shares are not included in the float, are they? I personally think that what we've got here are a few folks that are daytrading this stock for 15-20% profits on a regular basis, which is easy to do lately, i.e. buy shares at .019 and sell them at .021 or .023. They are the ones who are keeping this stock down by selling their shares off in the low .02's instead of holding them into the .03's and higher. There are obviously people who are interested in buying this stock, and as long as there are idiots who are willing to give their shares away for less than what they are worth, this will continue.