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Lesliep said : "I spoke with Kim Baker at Verifysmart’s office and the following is some of the information she supplied:"
NOW we know who Kim Baker is by reading the latest 8-K of VSMR. Kim Baker at Verifysmart's office???
From VSMR's 8-K :
On November 15, 2009, we entered into a consulting agreement with Kim Baker wherein Kim Baker has agreed to provide certain consulting services to our company. As compensation under the agreement, we have agreed to issue 50,000 restricted common shares of our company. The agreement expires on May 15, 2010.
VSMR also :
On November 15, 2009, we entered into a consulting agreement with Eileen Duperron wherein Eileen Duperron has agreed to provide certain consulting services to our company. As compensation under the agreement, we have agreed to issue 40,000 restricted common shares of our company. The agreement expires on May 15, 2010.
On November 15, 2009, we entered into a consulting agreement with Intentional and Purposeful Living wherein Intentional and Purposeful Living has agreed to provide certain consulting services to our company. As compensation under the agreement, we have agreed to issue 50,000 restricted common shares of our company. The agreement expires on May 15, 2010.
A WHOLE LOT OF CONSULTING GOING ON...
Stilllearning, GO LEARN some more about trading. How old were you in 1997? Cause I was using a T1 line at home, with real-time SIGNAL, nasdaq level 1 and was day-trading with a yearly volume of $25 million of my own money.
As a buyer of a stock, you don't fold at the highest selling price if you see that the sell to buy ratio is 3 to 1. What this means is that whoever bought high is either truly STUPID or an insider manipiulating the stock price.
Check how the Sell to Buy ratio was almost 3 to 1 and (12808 / 4125) and the last couple of trades bumped up the price by 4 cents.
About the technical feasibility and the 'patent' claims of VSMR, see
the comments of a monetic expert in this link :
http://www.stock-profiles.com/newsletters/hototc-com-vsmr-is-gaining-worldwide-attention/
Tony J Cinotti or Anthony J Cinotti is not a known financial executive like the Press Release indicates.
The latest EMAIL promo of VSMR by Frank's Penny Stock also shows a lot of misrepresentations.
I was also curious about the other recommendations of Frank.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=%22frank's+penny+stock%22&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
Nothing showed up. Quite consistent with the google searches done on the other entities mentioned in various VSMR Press Releases.
FINRA BROKER CHECK - Came up with nothing
http://www.atomicbobs.com/index.php?mode=read&id=464053
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=%22frank's+penny+stock%22&btnG=Google+Search
I care because I lost money on a similar company that was offering a similar solution that can not and will not work.
Kim Baker? Who is Kim Baker? Does she work for VSC for free? Even VSMR's SEC Filings say that it only has two employees : Santos and Mulji. No system can run parallel to a bank's system. LOL. If you are truly not a fake posing as an accredited investor and you want to protect your investment, go ask anyone who has worked for FIRST DATA or ACI or BASE1 for VISA and ask if a system can run in parallel as a card authorization system.
iMobile? There are PLENTY of companies that offer the same service as iMobile. I stand by what I said, Anthony J Cinotti is not known in the financial or banking industry.
I don't have any problem with any OTCBB listed company that do not CON small-time investors.
I have every right to ask you if you are affiliated with VSMR. Afterall, you can be working for WallStreet Grand or affiliated with Cohen Independent Research or Jonathan Lebed.
Concerning SEC, I reiterate that for ANYONE who has lost money with SCAMS in the OTCBB, you may contact SEC.
You're comparing what here? Bank of America to what company? You are not making sense.
Some other things to consider (and this is for all the readers) :
The one and only expense not associated to paying consultants that PUMP this stock is the $7000.00 rent for an office in Taguig. The going rental rate for office space in Taguig (Fort Bonifacio) is $16 to $18.00 per square meter. For a company that does not have employees (they have no payroll expenses as stated in their SEC filings), renting a 400 square meter office is a bit much.
MOBILE VERIFICATION OFFERED BY BANKS FOR CNP TRANSACTIONS
Mobile verification offered by banks for CNP transactions is nothing new. Mobile verification is often piggy-backed with Verified-by-VISA or Mastercard UCAF/SPA. How this works is that a cardholder is sometimes forced to use VBV or UCAF/SPA. Once the VBV or the UCAF/SPA is triggered on the issuing side (and this is pre-authorization), the issuing bank sends a one-time code to the cardholder's mobile phone. The cardholder then enters this one-time code in the VBV or UCAF/SPA stub.
This system exists and banks have offered this. Bank of America is not offering anything new. VBV is offered by VISA and UCAF/SPA is offered by Mastercard.
The drawback to this system is that both require the participation of merchants. Not all merchants participate. And when not all merchants participate, then cardholders are not inclined to use the system since security coverage is not consistent.
Lesliep, you can claim whoever you want to claim yourself as. You seem to have an ulterior motive which is to PUMP VSMR by disguising yourself as an accredited investor.
VSMR is a scam I have read each 8K and 10 SEC filings of VSMR. I have read each of their press releases and luckily I have friends in the card / payment industry that are in experts in determining what will or will not work and what is unrealistic. VSMR is a classic PUMP and DUMP.
With the confidence crisis with the economy, it is really disgusting to see companies that lie and cheat and cause small time investors to lose their money.
Not all investors have the resources (friends in the industry) like myself to know if a company is a scam.
SEC in order to clean up SCAMS (in the OTCBB and pink-sheet listed companies), should appoint experts for each industry that small time investors can talk to.
Lesliep,
Why don't you send me your identity? Are you linked in anyway to VSMR?
I am responding to Lesliep in private.
FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOST MONEY ON SCAMS like VSMR, please remember that you can write to enforcement@sec.gov
DUE DILIGENCE. Read the News article. Use the google links I posted here.
No one in the financial industry knows about this so-called financial executive, Tony or Anthony J. Cinotti.
Yes, the real Anthony is Anthony J Cinotti and no one in the financial industry knows of him.
Baloney...
"VerifySmart" or the "Company" has received a Solutions Request (the "Request") from one of the UK's largest and most trusted banking institutions (the "UK Bank").
Baloney...
Why don't they name this UK Bank?
Any business can receive a request for information from any bank. It does not mean anything specially if the bank finds out that VerifyNGo will not work.
LOL There is nothing about (FINANCIAL 'Anthony J Cinotti") or (Executive 'Anthony J Cinotti')
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=financial+%22anthony+J+cinotti%22+-verifysmart&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=executive+%22anthony+J+cinotti%22+-verifysmart&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
LOL. Anthony L Cinotti is an insurance salesman
MOBIClear (MOBI) is now MOCN.
There is no difference between Mobiclear's PIVOT and VSMR's VerifynGO. VSMR even copied Mobiclear's AD line. But both will not work.
Mobiclear - the end of credit card fraud
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=42893957
VerifySmart - the end of credit card fraud
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=42886342
YES. that's what all the VSMR press releases show. If you take away all the VSMR press releases, there is NOTHING ABOUT TONY or ANTHONY CINOTTI.
VSMR as usual pushes impressive press releases but when you scratch the surface, they are all fraudulent.
My friends work and are well known in the financial industry. No one of them has heard of CINOTTI
WHO IS TONY or ANTHONY CINOTTI?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=&as_epq=DP+Sciences+Inc&as_oq=&as_eq=verifysmart&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_n
What information can I find about DP Sciences Inc.?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22DP+Sciences+Inc%22+-verifysmart&btnG=Search&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
There is nothing about DP Sciences Inc.
It's definitely not DPSciences Corporation, since the founder of this company is not Cinotti but Quentin Nesbitt (http://www.dpsciences.com/?page_id=10)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=morgan+stanley+%22anthony+cinotti%22&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
Nothing about Cinotti and Morgan Stanley
In fact, take away all the VERIFYSMART press releases, there is NOTHING about this New York financial executive, Tony Cinotti or Anthony Cinotti. No trace whatsoever of having a past as a financial executive.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=new+york+&as_epq=tony+cinotti&as_oq=&as_eq=verifysmart&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images
In another chat/forum (http://www.thehotpennystocks.com/Stock-Chat/), a TED JONES kept on pumping VSMR to other investors in the forum.
Ted Jones, broadcasted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:10 AM EST : "VSMR supposed to have news on Friday or Monday moving up already"
SHARES ISSUED IN ERROR??? SHOULD BE A RED FLAG TO THE SEC
Based on the latest 8-K issued by VSC :
On August 21, 2009, we issued 500,000 shares to Black Diamond Investment Group Corp.. These shares were issued in error and are cancelled.
But check out Black Diamond Investment Group's website http://blackdiamondinvestment.com/, where they post :
Sept 11th, 2009 - VSC share prices is on the move.
VSC just hit $1.48 up 46% during the past two trading days on huge volume! Up 15.6% from yesterday. Overall this week it has gone up 48%.
July 31, 2009 - VSC Investment Project Closed
We have finalized the deal with VSC and will be receiving their stock certificates in 2 weeks of time.
BUYERS BEWARE : To anyone who is thinking of buying VSMR.
A friend of mine is the inventor of a patented system that enables cardholders to turn on and turn off their card accounts. It also allows cardholders to set other limits. VISA also applied for the same patent but VISA came in 14 months later than my friend. My friend's patent application was awarded the patent by USPTO and she has worldwide PCTs for it. I asked her to take a look at VerifyNGo and to tell me if this system would work. She is a monetic expert, by the way. This is what she told me (actually I've cut and pasted from an email) :
VerifyNGo will not work in REAL card transaction scenarios. A card transaction once it leaves the merchant's POS (point of sale), goes to the Issuing Bank within a couple of seconds. The Issuing Bank then approves or declines the transaction. The Issuing Bank or its authorization processor will NEVER pause to do what VSMR announced that its VERIFYNGO will do, which is to send a SMS to the cardholder, and wait for the cardholder to respond prior to approving or rejecting the card authorization. The authorization process CANNOT be interrupted.
Another reason why VERIFYNGO will not work is that not all card transactions need authorization. Some card transactions that are below floor limit will go directly to settlement (which is batch). For transactions that are above the floor-limit, authorizations are sometimes done on a real-time basis and some are done via batch.
She said, "Believe me. If there is anyway VerifyNGO can work, VISA or Mastercard would have done it a long time ago." She also said that investors should ask VSMR about the 'pilot'/'testing' of VerifyNGO. She said that VSMR could perhaps have set up something with one specific merchant's system to send a SMS to the cardholder, then wait for the response of the cardholder before giving it to the payment processor of that specific merchant, which would then send it to the Issuing Bank. In order for VSMR to prove that their VERIFYNGO works, they would have had to implement their system with a Bank's authorization system (NOT a merchant's system).
If VSMR intends to implement VerifyNGO with merchants, they will have a difficult time offering it to cardholders (just like Verified by VISA). Cardholders would not want to use VerifyNGO if there are only a handful of merchants using it, since the card will remain vulnerable with all the other tens of millions of other merchants.
If they piloted their system with an Issuing Bank and it works, then why did this Issuing Bank not offer it to all their cardholders? The answer is, it's likely that VSMR did not test VerifyNGO with an Issuing Bank.
I have also said the same about MOBICLEAR (see my previous post). MOBICLEAR started a couple of years before VSMR and Mobiclear did not go anywhere.
Bottomline, partnering up with Mr. Theodore 'Teddy' Permadi Rachmat does not do a thing with a system that will not work in real live scenarios.
Another outrageous revenue projection
"Based on the current $22B annual spend on in-bound remittance transfers in the Philippines today, the Company estimates a conservative one percent share of the market, gained over two years - or $10M USD net gross to VerifySmart."
First, one-half of 1 percent market share of a $22B annual spend is equal to a dizzying $110 million USD, not $10M USD.
Secondly, even if VSMR made a mistake with this calculation, what it means is that they are projecting to make 10% fee revenue ($20M USD) out of the their projected 1% market share with in-bound remittance of $22B. And indeed they say that $10M USD is net gross to VerifySmart.
Why does this not make sense?
First, let's define what a pump and dump is.
The long term pump and dump is generally a company-orchestrated manipulation, which will often result in a class action lawsuit and eventual regulator intervention. The scenario is an intentional manipulation of the corporate stock over a period of time, which could be anywhere from three months to as long as two years. The company releasing profit projections, which reveal an untrue projection of upcoming quarterly revenues, could initiate a short-term pump and dump. Glowing revenue projections attract new buyers and the stock price goes up.
Then, let's check if a 10% fee revenue is realistic.
According to estimates, the average fee charged from a client for a money remittance via MTOs abroad was 3.3% of the remittance sum in 2008.
Since, a recipient bank is necessary to receive these funds, I find it hard to believe that the bank would forego the revenue associated to money remittance and give it to a venture such as I-PAY commerce ventures and VSMR. In the money remittance business, the banks take the lead and it also has to comply with numerous regulations such as AML, etc. Whatever VSMR has to offer is merely an accessory to the bank's operations.
Based on all of the above, it is safe to say that the 10% fee revenue projected by VSMR is completely unrealistic.
Lastly, I think it is also wise to question why all these press releases from VSMR which always broadcast glowing revenue projections are one-sided. Where are the joint statements from the other 'partner' companies acknowledging these outrageous revenue projections?
MobiClear - the end of Credit Card Fraud
Sooooo blatant.
It was trading within a small margin between .69 - .72, then the very last trade was a very small order of 200 shares but a jump to .80 cents. Very typical of stock price manipulation.
SEC could only be blind not to see the manipulation of this stock. I don't think they are.
With the crap going on in the economy and so many crooks causing harm consumers and small investors, it's good to see crooks in handcuffs.
Of course it's possible. VSMR gave away millions of shares (see the 8-K filings) in order to manipulate the price of the shares.
SEC can check this out as well.
Good luck to all the investors who read messages in this forum. Stay away from VSMR. I also warned investors about MOBI and those who followed my advice, did not lose their money.
You only have one other poster here in this forum who desperately want to PUMP VSMR.
The pump already happened and there's proof of this. Easy investigation for the SEC actually.
VSMR I mean.
You're grasping on straws. I have no interest in shorting VSMC. Maybe others do. For the protection of OTCBB investors, VSMC should be outed for what it is - a PUMP and DUMP scheme.
I assure you I have no interest in buying VSMR at any price. VSMR has been reported to SEC, I have been told.
Microcap fraud depends on spreading false information.
http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/microcapstock.htm
According to SEC, watch out for these "red flags" :
* Unusual Auditing Issues Be wary when a company's auditors have refused to certify the company's financial statements or if they've stated that the company may not have enough money to continue operating. Also question any change of accountants.
VSMR's 10-K states "Our auditors have issued a going concern opinion for our year ended June 30, 2009. This means that there is substantial doubt that we can continue as an on-going business for the next twelve months unless we obtain additional capital to pay our bills."
The Latest Variation of the "Pump and Dump" Scheme
The Off-Shore Scam Under a rule known as "Regulation S," companies do not have to register stock they sell outside the United States to foreign or "off-shore" investors. In the typical off-shore scam, an unscrupulous microcap company sells unregistered Reg S stock at a deep discount to fraudsters posing as foreign investors. These fraudsters then sell the stock to U.S. investors at inflated prices, pocketing huge profits that they share with the microcap company insiders. The flood of unregistered stock into the U.S. eventually causes the price to plummet, leaving unsuspecting U.S. investors with enormous losses.
See VSMR's 8-K filing on July 14, 2009 :
"ITEM 3.02 UNREGISTERED SALES OF EQUITY SECURITIES
Effective August 15, 2009, we issued 50,000 restricted shares of our common stock to one (1) non-US persons (as that term is defined in Regulation S of the Securities Act of 1933), in an offshore transaction relying on Regulation S and/or Section 4(2) of the Securities Act of 1933.
Effective August 15, 2009, we issued 500,000 common shares of our common stock to one (1) non-US persons (as that term is defined in Regulation S of the Securities Act of 1933), in an offshore transaction relying on Regulation S and/or Section 4(2) of
the Securities Act of 1933."
Some people are finding that they have received a "misdialed" call from a stranger, leaving a "hot" investment tip for a friend. The message is designed to sound as if the speaker didn't realize that he or she was leaving the hot tip on the wrong answering machine. If you get a message like this, it's not a wrong number at all. Instead, it is from someone who is being paid to leave these messages on a whole lot of answering machines. Check out "Wrong Numbers" and Stock Tips on Your Answering Machine for more information and to hear one of these scams.
The Classic "Pump and Dump" Scheme It's common to see messages posted on the Internet that urge readers to buy a stock quickly or to sell before the price goes down, or a telemarketer will call using the same sort of pitch. Often the promoters will claim to have "inside" information about an impending development or to use an "infallible" combination of economic and stock market data to pick stocks. In reality, they may be company insiders or paid promoters who stand to gain by selling their shares after the stock price is pumped up by the buying frenzy they create. Once these fraudsters sell their shares and stop hyping the stock, the price typically falls, and investors lose their money.
Here's how some fraudsters carry out their scams:
E-mail Spam Fraudsters distribute junk e-mail or "spam" over the Internet to spread false information quickly and cheaply about a microcap company to thousands of potential investors. Spam allows the unscrupulous to target many more potential investors than cold calling or mass mailing.
Internet Fraud Fraudsters often use aliases on Internet bulletin boards and chat rooms to hide their identities and post messages urging investors to buy stock in microcap companies based on supposedly "inside" information about impending developments at the companies. For more information about Internet fraud and on-line investing, read Internet Fraud and What You Need to Know About Trading in Fast Moving Markets.
Paid Promoters Some microcap companies pay stock promoters to recommend or "tout" the microcap stock in supposedly independent and unbiased investment newsletters, research reports, or radio and television shows. Paid promoters are generally behind the unsolicited "junk" faxes you may receive, touting a microcap company. The federal securities laws require the newsletters to disclose who paid them, the amount, and the type of payment. But many fraudsters fail to do so and mislead investors into believing they are receiving independent advice.
August 14, 2009 8-K filing of VSMR : "ITEM 1.01 ENTRY INTO A MATERIAL DEFINITIVE AGREEMENT
On August 14, 2009, we entered into a consulting agreement with Cohen Independent Research Group wherein Cohen Independent Research Group has agreed to provide certain consulting services to our company. As compensation under the agreement, we have agreed to issue 1,000,000 (one million) restricted common shares of our company. The agreement expires on August 14, 2011."
"Boiler Rooms" and Cold Calling Dishonest brokers set up "boiler rooms" where a small army of high-pressure salespeople use banks of telephones to make cold calls to as many potential investors as possible. These strangers hound investors to buy "house stocks" — stocks that the firm buys or sells as a market maker or has in its inventory. To learn more about cold calling, read Cold Calling Alert.
Questionable Press Releases Fraudsters often issue press releases that contain exaggerations or lies about the microcap company's sales, acquisitions, revenue projections, or new products or services. These fraudulent press releases are then disseminated through legitimate financial news portals on the Internet.
Pump&Dump.con: Tips for Avoiding Stock Scams on the Internet
http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/pump.htm
One of the most common Internet frauds involves the classic "pump and dump" scheme. Here's how it works: A company's web site may feature a glowing press release about its financial health or some new product or innovation. Newsletters that purport to offer unbiased recommendations may suddenly tout the company as the latest "hot" stock. Messages in chat rooms and bulletin board postings may urge you to buy the stock quickly or to sell before the price goes down. Or you may even hear the company mentioned by a radio or TV analyst.
Unwitting investors then purchase the stock in droves, creating high demand and pumping up the price. But when the fraudsters behind the scheme sell their shares at the peak and stop hyping the stock, the price plummets, and investors lose their money.
Fraudsters frequently use this ploy with small, thinly traded companies because it's easier to manipulate a stock when there's little or no information available about the company. To steer clear of potential scams, always investigate before you invest:
Consider the Source
When you see an offer on the Internet, assume it is a scam, until you can prove through your own research that it is legitimate. And remember that the people touting the stock may well be insiders of the company or paid promoters who stand to profit handsomely if you trade.
Find Out Where the Stock Trades
Many of the smallest and most thinly traded stocks cannot meet the listing requirements of the Nasdaq Stock Market or a national exchange, such as the New York Stock Exchange. Instead they trade in the "over-the-counter" market and are quoted on OTC systems, such as the OTC Bulletin Board or the Pink Sheets. Stocks that trade in the OTC market are generally among the most risky and most susceptible to manipulation.
Independently Verify Claims
It's easy for a company or its promoters to make grandiose claims about new product developments, lucrative contracts, or the company's financial health. But before you invest, make sure you've independently verified those claims.
Research the Opportunity
Always ask for — and carefully read — the prospectus or current financial statements. Check the SEC's EDGAR database to see whether the investment is registered. Some smaller companies don't have to register their securities offerings with the SEC, so always check with your state securities regulator, too.
Watch Out for High-Pressure Pitches
Beware of promoters who pressure you to buy before you have a chance to think about and fully investigate the so-called "opportunity." Don't fall for the line that you'll lose out on a "once-in-a-lifetime" chance to make big money if you don't act quickly.
Always Be Skeptical
Whenever someone you don't know offers you a hot stock tip, ask yourself: Why me? Why is this stranger giving me this tip? How might he or she benefit if I trade?
For more information on how to use the Internet to invest wisely and avoid fraud, be sure to visit our Internet and Online Trading web page. There you'll find a vast array of tips, including Internet Fraud: How to Avoid Internet Investment Scams.
MOBICLEAR'S UNIQUE PIV SYSTEM : SECURE YOUR CARD PURCHASES WITH YOUR MOBILE
http://www.mobiclear.com/
1. You are in the final stage of a purchase online or in a store
2. Mobiclear will automatically call your mobile phone
3. Confirm your identity by stating your MobiClear pin-code
4. The transaction is then carried out the usual way.
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So what exactly is the difference between MobiClear and VerifySmart. Both are companies in the Philippines, by the way.
And do check out what happened to the stock listing of MobiClear (MOBI). MOBI is gone, dead. That's where VSMR is heading.
Yes, I do have a friend who is the inventor of this patented system. Her company is private. So?
dorado just joined Oct 17 2009 with posts only about VSMR.
You're losing it. What does merchant chargeback have anything to do with VSMR?