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I agree money is tight and one must make an educated decision on how, when and where to invest. My question is why would ZVTK lay out plans for a competitor? Why would ZVTK stop airing commercials?
1. ZVTK has secure retail outlets.
2. Commercials has hit a peak and cost for risk ratio unacceptable.
3. Overseas contracts in the works.
4. CEO doesn’t give a crap.
I’m leaning towards 1 and 3 and I’ve placed my bet. Good luck to you what ever you decision you make. STRIKE
Are you talking about a PR or what? What do you mean by throwing a bone? If you want to sell then sell. The current CEO is making huge leaps and bounds IMO. ZVTK is moving in a positive direction with lots of potential.
If we land retail outlet look out. CMF, Accumulation, PPO, ADX and MACD will shoot thru the roof. Watch the RSI for exit point with major profits!!!
I believe this company is trying to change its reputation from the coffee days. You will lose investor confidence with PR after PR with forward looking statements. Example: China Crescent Enterprises Plans to grow from 45 million is Annual Revenues. Key word PLANS. This is a classic example of a self promoting company.
I don’t think so. The only news is the upgrade to OCTBB. MM’s know this stock is getting ready to move and when it does move it will move fast. 10q coming out 17 May and MM’s needs your shares cheap. Keep in mind that the 10Q will only have information at the beginning of the commercials. Don’t expect huge numbers and take it with a grain of salt. I don’t see the company releasing PR’s until they secure retail contracts. PR’s cost money. The next report is where you’ll find the juicy stuff. IMO.
MODS, why are you allowing Mulder35 to pump ENTI on this board? This is off topic period.
The thing that bothers me is all the phone calls that MR. Paulson made to GS weeks before the seizure.
Yep and Senator M also stated that Mr. Paulson wanted to make money on a position that GS was selling and he wanted to short it at the same time. I wonder if Mr. Paulson also had a short position on WAMU and that is why he refused to add WAMU to the no short list. Hmmmmmm?
According to short squeeze.com we only have 40m shorts out of 1.7b. That’s a small percentage and I wouldn’t expect to see a little pop unless they all try to cover in the same day. I expect the MM to continue to play their games and hold PPS down while they cover their positions slowly. Example: We get a ruling in our favor and the PPS goes down. I know this is pinks, but it just make you go Hmmmmmm.
That’s why I would love to see the list of BOD’s positions. When and how many bonds did they buy and at what prices. I should a have word it my speculation is that the BOD bought bonds at pennies on the dollar. If we get an approval for an examiner this should come to light.
Sorry I couldn’t reply early but I hit my 15th post for the day. Anyway good questions, the way I understand it the BOD bought bonds at pennies on the dollar. BOD hires Weil to take care of bonds and screw share holders. That was their plan from the beginning. So I would assume they sold their shares along time ago and now they are sweating bullets. That is why they fought so hard to keep the EC forming and pursuing a share holder meeting in fear of losing control. And now we have an examiner coming into play when the Judge signs off. This is getting good. IMO
IMO it’s because Rosen was trying to give away billions of dollars and assets to JPM and FDIC. The examiner will uncover the dirt which could lead to a criminal case.
The appointment of an examiner in a chapter 11 case is rare. The role of an examiner is generally more limited than that of a trustee. The examiner is authorized to perform the investigatory functions of the trustee and is required to file a statement of any investigation conducted. If ordered to do so by the court, however, an examiner may carry out any other duties of a trustee that the court orders the debtor in possession not to perform. 11 U.S.C. § 1106. Each court has the authority to determine the duties of an examiner in each particular case. In some cases, the examiner may file a plan of reorganization, negotiate or help the parties negotiate, or review the debtor's schedules to determine whether some of the claims are improperly categorized. Sometimes, the examiner may be directed to determine if objections to any proofs of claim should be filed or whether causes of action have sufficient merit so that further legal action should be taken. The examiner may not subsequently serve as a trustee in the case. 11 U.S.C. § 321.
Yea I know how you feel. Some big whale gobbles up all the krill.
Mr. Paulson just wanted to make money! LOL! No wonder they keep WAMU off the no short list.
LOL, No you just can’t vote to replace the current BOD’s. A share is a share, pre or post it doesn’t matter.
You can only cast your vote on the shares you held as of 3 March 10. Shares bought after that date will not be allowed to vote.
Yep. POS Rosen didn’t shake any of my shares.
I not a 100% sure if the BOD can buy shares, because of the insider knowledge they have in this case. I’m sure this would apply to our EC as well. But on the other hand if they are allowed I’m sure they would hedge it.
Cut off date for a voter is 3 March 10 on record, so it doesn’t matter if they try to acquire more shares.
According to the Yahoo Key Statistic it is. Where and how they came to that conclusion I have no ideal.
Yea I know, but it would be nice if BV is 13 plus
Also look at the bottom of the page. 3 Data derived from multiple sources or calculated by Yahoo! Finance
Check out the site for yourself. Go to key statistics. Data provided by Capital IQ, except were noted.
So 77.24B divided by 1.7B = 45.43. EOM
Well they will not get any of my shares at these prices.
Nice. Would this be a fair assumption that the MM’s didn’t report in hope that the PPS will tank so they can acquire a lot of share cheap. The reason why I ask is because the 10Q is coming out 17 May and the sales of the bulbs are impressive? Also in the past few days the buying pressure compare to sell was huge and I believe the MM were having a hard time holding down the PPS.
Nice find. One could come to a logical conclusion that is why the current BOD is willing to give a way billions of dollars (NOLs and assets) to JPM and FDIC at the expense of shareholders. Some of their hands must be dirty. What a great deal for them. Get out jail free card and paid 105 cents on the dollar.
Good point. If not conflicted and the share holders win the majority of the votes to elect new BODs we can then fire him.
The Chairman of the EC has over 1 million shares of common and no preferred shares. I was also a pre seizure holder and I have added since then.
Based on what? Your opinion? LMAO. Eom
This is getting good. It is painfully obvious that Rosen had no intention to maximum the value of WAMU by his statement in reference to milking JPM. The internet is a powerful tool and we the people who have been wrong by big corporate business will STRIKE while the iron is hot. The great white has been let loose and MR. Susaman is hungry for seal pups.
I still demand and want a trial so them SOB’ will be held accountable for their actions! Enough is enough. They had 18 months too make this right. I demand fair price for my shares. For the people who conspire to bring down a well capitalize bank I demand they be held accountable for their deliberate actions and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. No plea barging, no mercy, no loop hole too escape justice from this obvious white collar crime. I want to see a subpoena for JD, Paulson, Blaire, Hedge funds managers, Moody’s and anyone else involved.
I want our assets return, I want to see the 3.1a, I want to see which bondholders bought bonds and when!!! Most of all I want YOU to make this whole mess right for Preferred and Common shares alike! Full face value for Preferred and $48.00 per common share too discourage this type of behavior from ever happening again. Also I don’t want some type of share swap with JPM for a share %. I demand CASH!!!!
Yea that was unreal. Sounds like Rosen works for JPM by protecting his assets. The milk money.
Zilla, I’m preparing to wait years for a settlement and trial. I know what happened as well as the FDIC, OTS, Senate, JPM, and U.S. Treasury. The news media is a joke. WE have the e-mails and court docks. Blaire stated multiple bidders to the Senate, JPM months prior stated they were the only bidders and don’t forget about the e-mail between JPM and the Spanish bank. Everyone is lying to cover their butts. The problem is when you tell so many lies it’s hard to remember them so you get caught in your on web of deceit.
Hello based on OTS recommendations
Yes we have a new shark in the cold dark sea’s looking for seal pups.
OK, it’s all good but IMO this is coming to an end. I believe her patience is wearing thin. The Gavel will drop and drop soon. They back door her and went to Judge Peak, this I believe she will not take kindly too. New power hitter up to bat looking for cash with a reputation to reckon with. This firm can destroy you. Be very, very careful JPM, OTS, FDIC, Rosen and Weil. EC has a GREAT WHITE shark in the water and your boys are prey. The Law is the Law and you can’t put a spin on it like the Senate Hearing’s did on Long Beach. Good luck to you Sir. Strike.
A few days ago someone posted that they sent an e-mail to the CEO in reference to sequel #’s and will post his response. Has this poster responded yet? I think it was proveicial but I’m not sure. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
You have that right, this is the man you do not want to be sitting on the other side of the table. He is a top predator and smells blood!! Blood is money and I bet he has been following this case since day one. Maybe his firm offered their serves for a percentage?
We now have a new power hitter up to bat. Home run with bases loaded coming soon to a court near you.
You’re a funny guy and way behind the power curve. Do yourself a favor and conduct some research. Read the e-mails between OTS and FDIC. The news media played it out to be a Turf WAR. What war? Who are the regulators? OTS or FDIC?
OTS are the regulators for the banking period, not the FDIC.
FDIC seizes banks based on OTS recommendations. No biting the dust here. LOL