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Do your own DD. Do a Google search on "Bush Harken". You'll find wealth of info....
Dick Morris is a shill for the far right-wingers at Fox. He is a putz!
And therein lies the problem with direct funding of "faith based initiatives".....
I hope so, their mission is to spread the Gospel to all peoples and nations.
Do you think the gov should provide direct funding to such missionary groups??...
Actually, yes, some groups discriminate - but not all.
Interesting... In this country colleges and universities with religious affiliations do receive direct federal funding provided the schools are not engaging in discriminatory practices.
Why does Bush advocate direct funding when the knows the same can be achieved using the Tax Code
without breaching Constitutional Separation?
Direct public funding of religious organizations IS Unconstitutional. The gov can encourage contribution to such organization thru favorable tax treatment. Aid to needy welfare families is not Unconstitutional. It is "humanitarian".
No, I'm not... :)
What does that have to do with the price of eggs?
I was surprised about Cheney too, Sara. I'd like to read some of her work also. :)
Hopeless argument!.. Wanna talk "SHEEP"??... :)
Do it thru the tax code - not thru direct public funding which is Unconstitutional.
I'm surprised! :) And they say great minds think alike... :)
I agree with you. But there will always be demented people who twist even the best of things and the best people.
Either is Republicanism. Hillary said being Republican is inconsistent with being Christian. For the sake of example, do you agree being a Nazi is inconsistent with being Christian? Or should that be viewed separately.
In public policy, yes - they should be separate, as Constitutionally mandated. That's not the point. Imo, Hillary's statement implied that Republicanism is inconsistent with Christian principals. But you and Mr Sheep are free to disagree... :)
Could the same be said about Hitler??
"the two are separate,Politics,Religion"
And we shouldn't "judge neither one against the other.
Would you disagree that Nazism is inconsistent with Christianity? Or should we "keep them separate"??
Many people believe real "religion" IS about how you live your life -- personally & professionally.
How foolish of them ???... :)
I'm not sure... But the Sheeply One, having absolute faith in the existence of Heaven and Hell, did say he was not sure if Rabbi Schneersohn, Mother Teresa, or Hitler actually made it to Heaven or Hell. But I think most reasonable people have a pretty good idea where those souls are now... :)
And you won't answer the question... Interesting!! :)
Alias Confusion!!... I thought yayaa's post was addressed to me! :)
Hillary said she thought "Being Republican was inconsistent with being Christian"... Or something like that.
I simply relayed a one-line assertion she made in her book. Personally, I don't think righteous Judeo-Christians wage pre-emptive war, but that's jmvho. You seem to feel strongly. Why don't you tell us why YOU think the 2 are consistent...
To some of those kooks, Mother Teresa (a model human being) may have been guilty of idolatry...
But, you know, it takes all kinds!! :)
Bill was a jerk, no doubt. But despite millions spent by the far-right to "crack" her, she used her Whitehouse stay to enter the US Senate. No wonder they hate her! They say - 'Success is the Best Revenge'... Hillary is a "success"! :)
Does she even live will Bill anymore??
Lynne, "cultural warrior", self assured & free thinking "feminist", does not "bake cookies" either!.. Maybe the conservatives are deliberately keeping Cheney in the proverbial "broom closet"... I hadn't thought about that...
Why Lynne Keeps Her Voice Down
Mrs. Cheney, once a cultural warrior, is standing quietly by her man
By Margaret Carlson
Posted Sunday, December 22, 2002; 4:31 a.m. EST
Lynne Cheney won't play it up, but she's making feminist history, more so than stay-at-home, stand-by-her-man Hillary Clinton did. Cheney is the very first Second Lady to keep her day job (and her seat on two corporate boards). When she's in town, Cheney, toting a brown bag with a salad and bottle of water, goes to work at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, in a boxy building in downtown Washington, where she is currently working on a book about heroic American women.
When she gets there, or anywhere else these days, Cheney is a lot more subdued than she used to be. Far from being "hard to muzzle" as Bill Bennett predicted when her husband was selected as Veep, Cheney has voluntarily relinquished leading the posse in the cultural wars. As head of the National Endowment for the Humanities, she fought against educational softheads veering away from traditional curriculums, denounced rap lyrics (that means you, Eminem) and celebrated Western patriarchs. As the host of Crossfire Sunday, she shouted down liberals on subjects ranging from trigger locks (against them) to fur coats (for them). Before that, she wrote several books, not only about education and cultural relativism but also a novel featuring two women in love, and she co-wrote another about a Vice President who dies flagrante delicto. In a you-go-girl ending, his smart, cheated-upon wife takes his job. Briefly, Cheney toyed with running for the Senate.
Sitting down at home on a pristine white chair, she lets her two large Labradors cover her and the furniture with dog hair as they wrestle at her feet. When it's pointed out that some people might miss the old Lynne Cheney who knew how to stir up a little trouble, she says how happy she is with her new life and what a relief it is "not to have to have an opinion about everything."
Pundit fatigue: rarely seen inside the Beltway. Too bad the only known cure is being married to a Vice President. Having transcended argument for its own sake, she dropped a controversial book project on academia in favor of writing one for children, America: A Patriotic Primer ("A is for America, the land that we love; B is for the Birthday of this nation of ours"). Scribbled in the margins of newspapers during the 2000 campaign, it's as uncontroversial as you can get, although, no doubt, a few colleagues from her old life would find "N is for Native Americans" a squishy nod to multiculturalism.
Being a think-tank fellow and a Second Lady are flex-time jobs that allow Cheney to scoop up from school the three daughters of her daughter Liz, a lawyer at the State Department. (Daughter Mary just got her M.B.A. and is on the board of the Republican Unity Coalition, which seeks to build bridges between gay and straight G.O.P.-ers.) Lynne brings her granddaughters back to the mansion, which has been redone to a fare-thee-well in beige and ecru. Next to the huge, stark Frankenthaler canvas and the Christmas tree strung with white lights and dried roses that only an adult could love, the kids' stash of Huffy bikes, Hula-Hoops and an electric Barbie car in the corner provide the decorating touch money can't buy.
The Cheneys have created one of the city's only salons, a voluntary activity you wouldn't expect from a man whose idea of heaven is fly-fishing in silence. About every six weeks, the Cheneys invite 16 scholars, artists and authors for dinner. Lynne kicks off the discussion but is aware the group doesn't need much help, since there are few shrinking violets. "Smart people are naturally funny and clever." The Cheneys spend some nights at official events, like the Kennedy Center Honors, other nights eating off trays in the den and a surprising number of nights casually out and about. The Cheneys have even dined at the mecca of Georgetown limousine liberals, chez Ben Bradlee and Sally Quinn. The Cheneys are the most social of the Bushies, asserts Quinn, which she feels accounts for the relatively friendly press coverage the Vice President gets. "It's harder to trash someone you've had pasta with the night before." Most casually of all, the Cheneys drop over at the politically compatible Rumsfelds'. Joyce Rumsfeld, wife of the Defense Secretary, says the Cheneys are a lighthearted pair ready to roll on a moment's notice. "Just last week I called at 5 and said come over for meat loaf and mashed potatoes, and they were here at 6." About the well-publicized policy split between the Vice President and Secretary of State Colin Powell, Lynne says, "I don't joke with Alma Powell about it," noting about her good friend, "There can be differences of opinion without there being personal differences."
The new Lynne Cheney has gone so soft she wakes up to Morning Edition, although she has to reset her clock radio every day because it refuses to stay tuned to NPR. When she hits the treadmill in the exercise room, she watches tapes of her favorite TV show, 24, about a federal agent foiling a terrorist attack.
In politics, marriages matter big time, as the Veep might put it. Since high school, Lynne has been the yin for her husband's yang. The quiet captain of the football team went into a full swoon over the drum majorette, who on their first date nearly 40 years ago wore a red strapless gown with a crinoline skirt, which Lynne jokes accounted for their second date. But he never actually asked her to marry him. "He was incremental about it," she says of a man who is incremental about little else.
FROM THE DECEMBER 30, 2002 ISSUE OF TIME MAGAZINE; POSTED SUNDAY, DECEMBER 22, 2002
Copyright © 2002 Time Inc. All rights reserved.
In response to public questions, Republicans are insisting on "closed-door" rather than public hearings. Secret! -- not unlike Dick's energy meetings. I guess both are a matter of "national security"... :)
What would the far-right prefer Hillary do -- cry like Tammy Faye??..
The far-right favors woman who home school their 7 children, ask for nothing, "bake cookies" for the church social,
and "love, honor & obey" - of course. Different strokes for different folks, I guess... Whatever works!! :)
She's somewhat visable, giving interviews sometimes. But she's probably immune to branding with the Scarlet "F" ("Femininst"!!). Dick is the ULTIMATE conservative!! Whitehouse.org satired Lynne Cheney. Dick went berzerk!! :)
That's the focus because they hated everything she stood for. The hated the fact that she was a successful, self described "feminist". I suspect the far right is full of those who still harbour beliefs of subjugation, tho they would never admit it. Lynne Cheney, a very well educated and successful woman - in her own right & mother of 3 daughters (I think??), is also the ultimate feminist, tho she would never admit it either. Cheney describes herself in other terms, avoiding the word "feminist". She says, because of what the word implies -- or something like that. "Feminist" is not PC is far-right circles.
edit: She is being criticised for not really delving into the relationship dynamics, but should she have to? Does the public have a right to such personal info, and how "personal" is too "personal" even for public figures and/or elected officials?
You get the feeling that the right wanted to see Hillary "crack". Let's face it, they HATED her from the early "bake cookies" days. They hated her for what she represents. They hated her for EVERYTHING she stood for! I am glad she did not "crack"!
They say she should have left Bill over the Monica thing, but that would have bought more chaos to the White House and the situation in general. And all international eyes were on the White House. She didn't have to speak to Bill. She could have thought he was a total schmuck. One can be married "legally" only... And so what if she used the marriage to Bill to advance her own political career? So what if the marriage became a political arrangement?
When life hands you lemons, smart women make lemonade.....
Whos business is it anyway??...
I think so too. But as usual the point will probably be missed by the far right "compassionate" conservatives.
It was a simple one line quote from the book. Maybe you should read the book before forming such a strong opinion.
She said she thought the 2 were inconsistent. How is that mocking?
edit: Devout Raelian. 8`}
Do you agree/disagree with Hillary's statement, and why??
Murdoch media is an amazing thing tho. While they totally dismiss the possibility that Bush may have lied, they talk about Clinton's lies of a decade ago... Relevance?? Fox has been bantering about Jennifer Flowers and Broadrick all week.
This is "News"? :)
I don't know if I agree or don't agree - because I've never given it much thought. But I would venture to say that while Republicanism might be entirely consistent with Mr Bush's version of Christianity, contemporary US Republicanism would be totally inconsistent with Mother Teresa's version.
"Separation", the war, and the Constitutionality of the war have become my personal pet peeves. Another pet peeve would be Mr Bush's apparent desire to continue promoting the US as the Evil Empire. But I agree, there's no shortage of issues to discuss.
Facade ==> Exterior appearance? Maybe it means farce?
Whatever it means, we know DC chooses it's words very carefully...
Could we compare the Average American to an Average Ostrich, sticking his or her Average Head in the sand?
I think we could... But who the heck wants to be "Average"??.. :)
Rick I missed John Dean on CNBC. What did he say about Young George??...
I hope so...for the sake of democracy and freedom...
If Bush lied, he should be sacked - just like Tricky Dick, and Slick Willie! Dubious Dubya??...
I love our neocon media, digging up Jane Does and disecting Hillary's old spin... As the world, and some in the US wonder if Bush & Co actually did commit the "high crime" of lying to get authorization for a war where real blood was shed... Imagine that!
Today Fox's comments regarding the WMD scandal: Where's the proof that Bush lied or "sexed up" intel... The answer is obviously, where is the WMD? And that's the more relevant question.....
Bush can no longer pull back from Mideast
News analysis by Judy Keen and Bill Nichols, USA TODAY
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-06-11-mideast-analysis_x.htm
Already Fox (Neocon) News is suggesting the need for US peace keepers in Israel and the Palestinian territories...
That's all we need to do!! But I think Bush might be stupid enough to do just that...