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Hi Stockdude here is info
Rodman & Renshaw Annual Global Investment Conference
September 9-11, 2009 , New York, NY
Rodman & Renshaw 11th Annual Healthcare Conference
HStrader Let's establish a meeting place and time closer to conference date- looking forward to meeting
Sageman
Long Cyrx- thanks for the link - It certainly helps
Cyrx It will be my pleasure to chauffeur you in my Porsche -BTW Cryoport is scheduled to present on 9-10 approx 3:30pm at rodman conference You can register on their website -
Stuart Fine will also be attending - may I suggest that anyone attending meet there before the presentation and plan on what would we would like to achieve from the meeting Regards to all- Is that a Glimmer of light that I see at the end of this Tunnel
Sageman
Cryo you sound like you found the 800 LB. Gorilla that's been the major obstacle to our Problems "Logistics" Now we need the proverbial Silver Bullet to kill the Beast .... Well whatever the answer turns out to be let's Hope a Fair Compromise can be made for all parties at this stage a Half a Loaf is better than None ... Larry lead us to the promised Land and roll us a Seven
Good Luck to All
Sageman
Cryo I believe that revenue is NOT from our new product line and if it happens to be it is only 90 containers 100 ea rental
that averages to 1 a day or the result of 3 orders 30 each that being the case why aren't they shipping more customers like that. Strategically they should be grooming a second tier player who would want to challenge the larger cros' business and what better way then to challenge them with our superior technology Imagine if some large pharma company went to Quest and said we like the new cold chain delivery methods and are switching because of it - Is there anything you can do or compete on this basis ... Do you think we would still be waiting? Typically most people don't understand the sales game as one of positioning sort of a game of chess In generally it comes down to the END GAME and analyzing where your opponent is (position of his pieces) and how will you capture hig KING ( GET the Business)Simply put Understanding
FUD (Fear , Uncertainty and doubt)is normally the main cause of non decision ...In chess a Grand Master can look at the board understand the position and say mate in x moves or realize his position is hopeless and resign (forfeit) Well is Larry a Grand Master ??????? A Sales Grand master must be able to get the customer to reveal his position and then have the customer realize it is in His best interest to Surrender his position (release the paperwork for shipments) If Larry has Control of the End game we win if he doesn't then he should reach out for Help with the endgame so we all WIN....
WE are probably in position ..... What will Larry DO and How will it End ......
GLTA
Sageman
CYRX needs to break the ice --- Start shipping for anyone ----
otherwise we will be sitting here a long time HOPING
This is a startup company that needs market share you don't get market share and profits (Efficiency) together ......I've been involved with a dozen startup operations and i've seen 1st hand once you get those 1st accounts no matter how small the door is opened and the magic happens It's just like those 1st small shipments opened the flood gates Remember business is a game and sometimes Bluffing wins this game ...... When you get to the point where what your'e doing is not working Take a chance... At this point why should CYRX be afraid of fedex or any customer what are they going to lose... believe me taking control of a situation doesn't require being offensive in any way but letting the other party know you are deserving of respect and your business needs have to be met also
Let's hope Larry is up to the Job
GLTA
Sageman
CEOA1US Herein lies(no pun) the problem –many members on this board have said we should have started shipping smaller fish for years now This common solution which probably would have put pressure on all concerned was said not to be cost effective for one reason or another …….We did a proof of concept with multiple trials worldwide which were reported to be very Successful, Normally one would get some type of customer commitment before doing this costly process like tying it into a letter of intent or conditional order ( Sales 101). Logistical issues have some type of compromise that is acceptable to carrier and shipper. Give fedex 1st right of refusal on all deals and if they can’t meet the customer needs then allow customer to choose logistical solution of choice. Let’s get this ship moving
GLTA
Sageman
BBF- thanks for the input- It would be great to know...." what Terms, Conditions, or Objections remain in play that are holding back any customer deals" If an issue can be isolated then a compromise/solution can remedy the situation so the company can move forward...... I've tried contacting Larry to offer any help in these areas with no response ..... could one assume that CYRX has the situation under control and Good news should be out in 90 days.........
Full of Hope and Remaining Positive
GLTA
Sageman
No Surprises-The Question had been asked many times to investor relations -What do They (Berry Carlson etal )do all Day and a satisfactory answer was never given ...... It is a GOOD sign that these negative impediments have been removed from the company- GO LARRY bring home the BACON
GLTA
Sageman
Cryoport your delimma is shared by the Board..... We will have our opportunity shortly to look the powers that be in the eye and call them out one way or the other ..... try not to force an outcome and let the final outcome just Happen
Peace
Sageman
Hi Guys Looking forward to meeting you also I live 45 mins from NYC .... We need to know the day & time of presentation
Stuart Fine said he would also be attending...
Let's conference that day hopefully pre and post CYRX presentation
Regards
Sageman
Yes I will probably go.... do you know format of conference & when Cryoport may be presentiing or be there
Again Kudos to Cryoport for his research...
Very promising
GLTA
Sageman
Thanks tonew what you post makes sense...... the pent up frustration ( What new creative Delay & excuse can they possibly think of next)if CYRX would use some of that creative energy on sales we may get somewhere .... a walk of a thousand miles starts with ONE STEP ( One customer at a time )Universal Law likes will attract break the ice with the smallest customer and the flood gates will OPEN - I've seen it happen many many times in my business career.... In the book ' Who moved my cheese' basically says when the market, customer, product changes move on to Find a new market customer or product. CYRX has NO momentum it obviously is not qualifying and moving on to new potential clients Sales 101
I believe most of the people on this board would be able to sell this product with their eyes closed because we all still believe this is the BEST of Breed & the BEST of practice for the INDUSTRY Enough said
GLTA
Sageman
This is BULLSHIT..... Larry & the rest of the board either don't know the first thing about a start up company and how to get it started or they are FRAUDS in one case they should be BOOTED in the other 150 years is too lenient for what they put us through Enough is enough ... Let's draw a LINE in the SAND ... OK board don't you believe WE deserve an Answer
Respectfully Yours,
Sageman
Speculation - Cyrx is starting at square 1 ------ Larry assess
situation PB useless gone Carlson useless Gone bring on new sales person start from scratch...... maybe ONLY long term prospect is Qwest ........ really believe all other releases were done but these customers who took trials were not serious
( that's being kind as I truly believe there is more to the other trials being held)Hope I am wrong for all our sakes
again hopefully we'll see SOMETHING in next quarter at least an announcement
GLTA
Sageman
There is an Old expression Why buy the cow when your getting all the milk you want for Free------ You're talking probably 250 million to buy the company which right now is a captive to them anyway and probably would sign an exclusive deal with fedex at a moments notice....... How many years would it take them to get their investment back ???..... IMO there is no compelling reason for FDX to lock up those kind of assets when they can leverage it elsewhere and will probably need the capital
GLTA
Sageman
Thanks Tiger for your Fair, Balanced and objective evaluation of the situation ... It helps..... Does anyone have an opinion on what the effect of the current Fedex business downturn has on Cyrx .... Everyone Keep posting
GLTA
Sageman
Long .... You're right and went back and checked 17th ...
It was confusing since they said it was sent out on Tuesday which was 19th followed by cyrx PR ...... Guess I am looking for a Rainbow Sorry about that
GLTA
Sageman
HStrader I did a search in google using phrase below
'jerry beyl, fedex vice president of worldwide services'
and in the middle of the second page cut and pasted the info to the post try it .... This is all the info I could find
Sageman
News surfing out of Frustration- check this out
SurfWax: News, Reviews and Articles On FedexTuesday, it sent notices via FedEx to those same 1100 dealers, ..... ice and over pack solution," Jerry Beyl, FedEx vice president of worldwide services, ...
news.surfwax.com/brands/files/Fedex.html - Cached - Similar
JB EVP of FDX is the real deal and has a lot of pull and credibility and the cryoport PR has gone out to 1100 dealers
With All of this We can't sign 1 Customer to make shipments for
Which leads me to believe We have 1 Lotto ticket in the game with fedex calling the shots Maybe someday we will get that 1 Elusive account
GLTA
Sageman
Cryo makes sense ... Thanks again for connecting the Dots
GO LARRY ... Hanging in ....... Hope one day to meet you Guys
GLTA
Sageman
Hey Guys- What you're saying is We are not in the bottom of the ninth and Casey is not at the Bat ------ Really the players are just warming up and taking batting practice---- As a matter of fact we have new sales people coming on board and they will have to ramp up (3-6 months)Quite honestly can you help me make some sense out of this .......
We don't have enough capacity to satisfy any large CRO contract ( which is far along in negotiations)+ trials at ABClabs Emery Dupont Etc.but NOW we are bringing on people to START a marketing and sales effort
Where are the TRUTH Police when you need them
Help Please......
Sageman
What & where is it ! please elaborate
Sageman
HST - I hope your right - right now it is a good thing the financials are not being published- Let's not kid ourselves there is no revenue-and Another promise prior to the financial release (ala PB August letter to Investors ) in July and I'd say you can get in for .25..... I am listening to the recommendations of the Board staying & thinking positive and Waiting
All the Best
GLTA
Sageman
People with significant positions are getting ready to throw in the towel- It is understandable at this point in time - My position is sit and wait - Hope for the Best - Unforfortunately unless there is some news there will be significant selling coming - Brace yourself It could be a tsunami-Regards & GLTA- Sageman
Thanks Cryoport - also I understand accept and appreciate the Humor and content of Longcyrx response- in the 8k of 02-25
the following appeared
2. Required within 9 months of the date of the Agreement, hold a shareholder's meeting to put before the shareholders a proposal to increase the number of authorized shares from 125,000,000 to 250,000,000, with an acceleration to 90 days if the authorized but unissued shares falls below 5,000,000.
Does this mean there will not be a shareholders meeting til 11-09?
Mr. Fine said there would be one scheduled after 4th quarter
03-31-09. Anybody know any further information or where we can get information?
GLTA
Sageman
Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid when they were being chased by the Posse Kept Asking "Who are these guys" Many of us on the board some having been invested for FOUR yrs still don't Really Know anything about the Company, the guys or their business plan ------ What do they do ALL day sit in meetings with FED-EX and Quest --- The investors are entitled to know what is going on ------- NO REVENUE for all this time heads should have rolled long Ago ...... does anyone know why Stambaugh lasted such a short period of time at his last CEO position and then was gone...... Well Larry where's the beef!!
Do we have to wait 100 Days?????? Enough Already Smell the Roses .... It's already May and NOTHING
Please don't repeat what we have & know It doesn't cut it for me any more because there is Something Amiss Here or Based on what we know Success would Have Happened Already.... All we have is a wish & some Hope we have a winner
GLTA
Sageman
Any indication as to when the Shipping stage may take place?
Thanks to all the members on the board who responded so generously to my post - All your input & insight is very welcome & helpful as going through this period is very Frustrating... Thanks Again
GLTA
Sageman
Thanks for the Reminder and info had not seen 04-13-09 filing
GLTA
SAGEMAN
Sorry LongCYRX Let me be blunt.....The question has never been answered.....WE don't KNOW the Truth about anything with this company ....and that's the root of the problem No One TRUSTS this company... BridgePointe Master Fund, Ltd ( Roswell capital Partners) Why have they decided to get out of this picture and what will that cost the shareholders???
The Lack of Transparency with this company has caused soooo many Doubts that ... That is what is now driving the SP
Where is Harry Markopolis when you need him!
The Good news is one way or the other We will probably only have to endure this pain for 6 more weeks for we will be OUT of Business or Have a DEAL in PLace!
GLTA
Sageman
Coach thanks for understanding-bodisatva thanks for an answer?
Some time ago I worked for a fortune 500 company and whenever we were entering any type product relationship - word got out quickly to Several thousand reps at my company and many of us bought the Stock of the new guy on the block as any relationship with us and their new technolgy would bring lots of business to that company and we also got the word out to all our friends & relatives minimally 100k potential investors would know quickly and believe me the stock moved from all the excitement ---- We were not high level people who signed NDA etc. The reps at fed-ex, shipping people at quest Emory abc etc are not signing an NDA.
Thanks for the Posts
Sageman
Hope springs eternal- The board always helps to buoy my sagging optimism- Here's the Question If we are shipping product generating revenue (which I seriously doubt)and Stambaugh is implementing a business plan ( more financing, building recycling facilities and forming serious alliances with various and sundry players) Then Explain the SP with all that potential investment $ ---- Everyone wants to be in the know to make Money ( Greed) and if there truly is Something going on WHY haven't these people shown up Think of all the people at
Fed-ex,Quest, Finance companies All their realtives and friends all wanting to get IN and NOTHING.... Please any thoughts or Spin
GLTA,
Sageman
Old Timer - Please step in - Remember When Children should be seen and not heard---- Today Parents would probably say keep it up and you will get a Time out ------ I know that this is rough language ( HA HA) but enough already ...... All comments are welcome and should be respected
Let's Move ON
GLTA
Sageman
Cryoport the Enigma can best be summed up with the analysis of the Following shows and movies
American Greed- Sometimes I feel like one of the Victims
Dumb & Dumber-That could be me or Cryoport Leadership
Liar Liar- What & where is the Truth
A few Good Men - Can the investors handle the truth
Godfather - Suddenly Directors Make PB offer can't refuse
Butch Cassidy- Who are Those guys
Chistopher Columbus- Are we there yet - How much Longer?
A new Movie "Hope"Set in India and United States, HOPE is a story of human pain and potential. It explores the power of love and the love of power in the context of a dilemma that has divided a nation.
Keep the Faith
GLTA
Sageman
Very Informative thanks for this Link----- Integrity,morality and the Truth will set you Free....... Cryoport Leadership are you Listening --- Transparency is what the Shareholders want ...... COME OUT COME OUT Where ever you are.......
Mr Fine how about posting the stockholder meeting date time& Place
GLTA
Sageman
Deduction and Research are certainly your strong points and they are welcomed and greatly support the morale of the board-Thank You and please continue
If I remember correctly didn't you and Bostonman attend the Exhibitors conference in Boston and meet Mr. Carlson and some prospective customers who said they would definitely use the shipper if it proved cost effective ---- would you or Bostonman be able to reach out to those people or Mr.Carlson and determine what the current status of those meetings were....
Notice To All Cryoport Management if you read this Board
Stambaugh, Berry, Carlson& Fine share what is causing the holdup and WE may be able to HELP with a Solution .....
With All Sincerity and best wishes to All
Sageman
Re: Quintiles I must have missed the press release about the Cryoport Pilot Program for Quintiles when did that happen? It must have been Big news and I also didn't see any chatter on the board about it ...... Will someone Clarify this information Please
Loyal to the Board & GLTA
Sageman
BBF - Your frustration and the frustration on this board is understood and JUSTIFIED......Larry was CEO of ABC Labs and Cryoport successfully completed a pilot for them .... What could possibly be holding up shipping for ABC Labs???? 8 Months ago Peter Berry announced significant contracts in not too distant future ..... Shipments & ramp up early part of 09 and run rate of 25mm per year and he was being conservative....... What Happened ZERO NADA NOTHING
Patience and Perseverance is all we have
GLTA
Sageman
Great Sense of Humor ! Just what the Doctor ordered
Thank You Tiger