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Hey guys please help me here. I have held this stock for 8/10 years. I don't remember EVER 91,000 shares traded.
Is this too good too good to be true---or is there finally some light at the end of this 10 mile long tunnel? What is going on?
Is not 38,000 shares traded out of the ordinary!
Last week some days there were O shares traded . Perhaps this is a dumb question,But what's up? Sure isn't your everyday Tovc stock trade.
Thanks soo much for the info,it is very much appreciated!!
Very happy to know things are Knot Bad as I dreaded!
Can you hurry June up?
Is anybody home? I am, sadly, a long time holder(2005) but infrequent visitor here. The stock hasn't traded for three days?, No one has posted? Has Torvec filed for Bankruptcy? The last annual meeting was 2010? Are we all waiting for something to buy or bail? Help!
It has been "Ground Hog Day" for so very long with our TORVEC stock I would have thought the Ground Hog would have long ago passed away. Instead, Torvec survives because...?( No idea)
To add misery to woe,the incredible,unearned Bonus just paid for merely recruiting our new CEO is similar to our Administration in that ....it keeps printing monies we don't have for something we don't want/need. A bonus should/could perhaps paid only after the CEO brings in some income.
I know most of us have owned Torvec forever and on this Board--Hope Springs Eternal but...Profits never come.
Any news on what our new General is doing to bring in $$$.
Appreciate the response. And,agree with Roth suggestion. I switched to Roth when first offered and hoping Torvec makes it back to $5....or higher!
For reasons unknown I cannot get past your Post: 20550 that Fiftysentman sent. I can go backward but not forward? Tried everything...I thought-- any suggestions
Thanks for the link. Board does appear a tad incestuous among friends and relatives and really heavy on the real estate end.
Obviously Torvec, for way too long, has badly needed "players" to market the company. I'm pleased with what I have read about Kaplan, Destler, Heinricy and Saunders--not sure about the others.
David Flaum (former Torvec Board member)and Phillip Saunders own/investors in Bristol Harbour Resort. David's son, Asher, replaced his father on the Torvec Board. Real estate background.
Our Chairman, Siconolfi, is currently involved in commercial real estate--since leaving the car business 15 years ago? I can't find any recent info that would justify his being Chairman of the Board? His BIO just ends in 1995--even on the Torvec announcement.
Charles Mills is an area Real estate developer.
Bottom line--I am a former partner/owner in Commercial Real estate Business /25 years with CIA and since now retired just trying to figure out the new and old Torvec players and what they bring and how they fit in with Torvec. Here's hoping!!
Thanks for your help!
who is the owner of "bristol harbour" you refer to as DF---I had no luck finding the owners name on Google? Also, Trying to find out, exactly, who is on the Torvec Board---as of Today!
Couldn't find any list of current Board Members on the Torvec webpage which is hopelessly out of date. I know the new guys. who is left from the old board--Trying to take poll as I have been a Torvec holder for 6 years but am out of touch---but the $3++++ has my attention.
You are so right on. I have been afraid to say anything as I don't want to jinx the stock.
Having said that I do like the volume. Profit takers will soon bring it down but hopefully we will go back to the sudden euphoria which is a welcome change for our Board!
I think we all suffer from the Fool Me Once Shame on You--Fool Me twice shame on all of us hangers on!!
That said, would love to see $3.00 as our December Christmas Present! Or $4.00, 0r $5.00 Hey-miracles do happen. Maybe the New C.E.O. is our saviour? Keepthefaith
Please tell me this is not a dream!! $1.25 yesterday---If I were awake I coulda sold my shares and only lost 2/3.
Can anyone tell me why the price hasn't budged off the "ASK" Price of $.94 all day long as I am transfixed?
Dread,
Great story and yes I did check it out. Good one! I should just forget all my losers. I use Scott Trade and I figure why pay $7.00 to trade all my penny stocks, which I see on my IRA account daily. I keep them as a constant reminder of how not to buy. I started buying Torvec in 2005 more in/2006 & 2007. Started selling in 2008/2009 until my purchase yesterday.Dummy. I figured after IDT/Net2phone/sunw/xmsr/Siri/Vocaltech/elot/Ariel/Frederick Brewing et.al the law of averages would show up. It hasn't- If they gave an award for picking losers I think I rank with the best---and that is nothing to be proud of nor does it bode well for Torvec holders. But, perhaps the law of averages will kick in for me and it will be Torvec--and it can be a Vermillion for all of us.
Sulax, Dread50above and allnumbers: just wanted to say thanks for responding as I felt I was the last man standing! Still, isn't anyone interested in .51/share? Guess not and that is why I am such a loser for buying an extra 1,000 yesterday to try and get the ball rolling. OUCH! Here's to some upward trading and REAL good news!
Help!!!Is anyone here?? No trades in the first half-hour? Ouch I bought 1,000 at the open yesterday and waited, and waited, and, waited---Have they stopped trading on this stock. Well stupid is as stupid does--I'm taking my marbles and going back home---again. Godd luck---Lost the Faith...almost.
Dino, Nope I didn't take Dread's survey. I have been hibernating for a looong time. Couldn't bring myself to sell. The truth will out today. My concern is with no leaks, insider buying, increased volume....it just doesn't fit that "real" good news is coming? My 23 years at CIA makes me a skeptic...but I am still a keeper of the faith.
Skepticism of Torvec has been earned, but maybe, just maybe,
some financial gain will come after this long, long, wait--We had given up hope....almost...We plunged in 6years ago! We shoulda, woulda, coulda sold at $5.00+ way back then.. blah, blah, blah. Everone knows the story. I imagine the stock will go up Monday and then probably back down until something more SPECIFIC is told at the meeting. Oh well, it was a cheap thrill but it felt oh soo good. Here's hoping!!! Keep the Faith!
11;15 and no trades, drip,drip,drip,
I know many Board members have visited the Torvec facility and are pleased with management.
My curiosity is killing me. What exactly do Torvec employees do all day to keep busy as they are not selling or producing anything.....are they?
I very rarely contribute to this Board as I have nothing worthwhile to add. I have however been reading all your posts for the past five years. Just wanted to say Congrats for this site as there are more intelligent, well meant contributors than I though possible after such a loong time
I continue to lurk but really have to question the obvious lack of Torvec's marketing skill. After all this time it seems reasonable they could negotiate down to get some deal done. We so need to get started.(DUH)
Lots of promises but most deals seem to have either fallen through or going nowhere. We obviously need a more aggressive team at the top. ALL of us agree Torvec has the product or we wouldn't still be here. And, most of this Boards contributors who have visited the plants remain upbeat on Torvec management?
I can't figure out if everyone is praying for a leap up $1/2/3 dollars to bail--- or if Torvec should surge to $3 will we be sure something is happening and our dream will be realized? I'm confused. The fact that you guys/girls are hanging in there is the only reason I lurk ( and that is admittedly a poor excuse. We are running on a treadmill getting nowhere? so shouldn't we hire some new, proven, marketers to try their skills. What do we possibly have to lose?
Thanks for your thoughts, appreciate them.
I have waited (for me) a long time.
What's another Quarter?
Patience is a virtue?
No News is GOOD News,right ?
Misery loves company, right?
We know Tea leaves don't lie.
And, "Good things happen to those who wait"....for Torvec to go up?
So, I'll look at it this way---If,as expected by many, there will be NO good $$$$$ NEWS ---Then there will be a sell off, Torvec will be back way under $1 and a great buying oppurtunity for those of us who "keep the faith". Tick, Tick
I hope there is,I hope there is--- a major announcement.
Tick,Tick,Tick,Tick----The wait has been a long one! And, I am a relative newbie as I bought in around six years ago.
The yearly CEO pep talk has admittedly kept me in---- but in hindsightI wish the woulda, coulda, shoulda in me had taken over and I had bailed when I had made good Bucks....for me!
Enough crying--this is it for me. The economy is in shambles and will get worse before better. No one seems to want to buy a car---any car.
Hope the soothsayers are RIGHT and there is a Positive--"major deal" finally announced. I am hopeful...thus my "Keep the Faith" name,good luck all!!One weeek or less!1
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
Well,the Government is giving our tax money to every other car company---Why not Torvec?
Maybe, just maybe, this will be the year? It has been a very long wait--Patience is a virtue....isn't it?
I would have thought/hoped/prayed that the very upbeat message from J.G. on 16 June would have propelled Torvec up to at least the $3/$4 range. It was good news, wasn't it?
I have been a holder since circa 2004 and am admittedly about to bail. I did finally call a relative who owns a very large Ford dealership and asked if he could snoop around his high up Ford buddies to hear if "anything" was going on...even just answering if had they even heard of Torvec, etc., Bottom line....nothing.
Having said that, if all the "possible deals" were out there that J.G. suggests there are there is just NO WAY some investors wouldn't be buying. Money talks, secrets sell, and if there was even a modicum of a chance this stock was going to break out it wouldn't be up $.08 today with 4,000 shares traded.
I Enjoy reading the Board dialogue and hope I am wrong, but...
Words,just words,(and nothing else)is all J.G.'s message appears to be all about.
Keep the Faith in Torvec?
Just wanted to say "Thanks" for taking the time to give us your thoughtful insight of what you saw/heard at the Torvec visit.
To me, the absence of any real bad news is good news!!!!
I think it is very telling/thoughful that management was willing to stay and answer questions as long as necessary ... as I'm sure many of the attendees were very frustrated.
We all love the TORVEC product and hopefully one of the many irons they have in the fire will finally pay off.
I believe, no news is good news.
That said, I know, I know, we have waited a long long time. But, I believe!! Looking forward to hearing more.
Thanks again,
KTF
The truth about Torvec, good or bad, is why I signed on.
I'm glad I did as I think this is a great discussion forum for Torvec. That said,I imagine most members aren't making much if any money the past few years--For those of you that have--Congrats.
At my tender age (72) I have bought lots of "inexpensive stocks" like Torvec hoping to make a fortune! None of my cheap stocks ever skyrocketed...except SUNW/Java (Jdsu/Ont/xmsr/ siri)where I subsequently lost both cheeks, but at least Sunw did get to the promised land. So I am not a good stock fortune teller.
Bottom line--I think Torvec could certainly use some better marketing skills as the proof is in the stock price.
If any deal was really imminent it would have leaked out(my 25 years with the CIA of listening to leaked secrets in the newspapers/TV )tells me so, and TORVEC'S volume and price would reflect it. Not Happening!
Disappointed yes, hopeful yes, but admittedly Quarterly bumps are wearing a tad thin. That said--Go Torvec...and I'll take $10!
OK Guys---I'Ve read all the posts but none suggest why.....
Torvec went up $.40 today? An April Fool Joke?
That's a big leap after the SEC fiasco that I agree doesn't appear to bode well. Sounds fishy.
I know, I know, most all stocks are up---but Torvec doesn't usually go with the flow. Are we back down $.40 tomorrow?
Inquiring minds want to know! Let's hope someone knows something we don't!!
I'm a newbie to this board just wanted to say hello and am glad to find some fellow sufferer's
I've owned Torvec for @ three years. Like most here wish I had sold years ago.... but greed prevailed. (Ialso bought SUNW/JAVA options)so I come to this board not highly recommended.
That said, Can anyone tell me what exactly went wrong on the School Buses for Rochester/NY deal which I thought that after Hillary blessed were a slam dunk.
Go figure! NASA likes us but no serious money there.
Any real hope anywhere?