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I believe that any company who spends millions of dollars doing research should be compensated by having implants at a premium price like that being charged by the big four implant companies. However, like the pharmaceutical industry, there are many companies who have made “generic” products at a substancial discount to prices that are being charged. It is up to the dentist to decide when and where these products are to be used. They certainly have their place and I welcome them.
one answer among others is to educate the implant dentists worldwide thru universities-based programs and not commercials from the factories!!!!
for example , a french Institute of Technology helds a one year postgraduate program in Mechanical Engeenering in Oral Implantology: most lecturers are renowned speakers from
international aerospace companies , engineers specialized in corrosion or screw designs, computer modelizers and are not paid by nobel straumann or any one in this industry.
they dont know about bone but their analysis of current implant mechanical concepts seen from the outside can be disturbing.
Tkink about it for a second, invite a mechanical engineer to your next study group, some may not smile.
To end this long post,education of your patients by your opinion instead of companies’brochure can help some times.
There is a big shift!! The implant users are tired of the lies by Nobel and boys. The Doc’s are also TIRED of the lies about the bone loss problem. This is a real problem and with the systemic problems of the periodontal bacteria, someone is going get the you know what sued out of them for using an implant with an open microgap that harbor periodontal bacteria that will add to a systemic problem. Read the medical articles, they do not like the dentist implanting a non-cleansable device into their patients.W e as dentist have been asking for years for help from the big boys, but they are only intersted in boosting their sales. All of the programs are now paid speakers to sing the “company song”. We as members of the socities shoud be allowed to hear the truth!!!!!!!!!!
ENRON is coming to the dental implant industry.
While the major implant companies may be collectively losing a few percentage points of market share, they are growing their total sales by expanding the market and by price increases. This does not represent a paradym shift from the major companies with large sales forces and educations programs to less expensive, smaller companies because the major implant companies are growing at 20-25% per year. They are expanding their customer base and their profitability.
THAT IS NOT TO SAY THAT CHANGE IS NOT COMING.
The major implant companies have made only minor modifications to their product lines in recent years, primarily to differentiate from the competitor’s products and to justify price increases. These price increases bear little relationship to increased cost of goods which has gone down from 20% to 17% for both Nobel BioCare and Straumann over the last few years as a percentage of gross sales, while profits have risen to 30%. The major implant companies operate on the historic economic reality that raising prices generates added income that in turn can be used to expand sales forces and buy greater influence with opinion leaders, universities and implant organizations. Nobel recently committed $5,000,000 to the University of British Columbia Canada. and another $3,000,000 collectively to two other universities. Publically traded Swiss Companies do not indulge in philanthropy in a foreign country unless they see a payback. They have found that the sales they lose from higher prices are far outweighed by the sales they gain from having a greater marketing presence. The smaller companies, who sell products for more reasonable prices, lack the technical resources to produce a broad, high quality product line and the financial resources to produce adequate inventories or conduct extensive marketing to establish a significant customer base.
None of the major implant companies price compete with each other. Instead, they focus on what features differentiate their products from the competition, and claim that that must be the key to their high success rate, whether it be in poor quality bone, immediate or early loading, or in the hands of GPs placing their first implants. The features they point to include TiUnite surface (Nobel - the same company that hyped the machined surface CP implant for 15+ years), new wet surface (Straumann - who hyped TPS and then SLA surfaces as the be-all and end-all of surfaces), Microthreads and a “Osseospeed” floride treated surface (Astra - known for years as the only company blasting with Titanium), Platform switching an a connection that clicks (3i - don’t talk much about their acid etched surface, Osseotite, with its 3mm machined neck because they abandoned that when Nobel extended its rough surface to the top), or the company selling the original Internal Connection with Friction-Fit Abutments (Zimmer Screw-Vent).
There are a host of smaller companies (BioHorizons, Innova, Friadent, Bio-Lock etc.) who differentiate on threads, beads, laser lines or some other gimmicky feature, as well as being priced below the Major companies. Eventually these medium priced companies build a customer base and then start to raise their prices so they can market with the big boys with symposiums, salespeople etc.
There are smaller companies that market on price alone and try to be similar enough to the major companies’ products that you do not have to think too much about their research history, not that research matters any more when Nobel’s idea of research now consists of having 3 studies underway. The small companies selling at $100-$150 can’t afford to offer broad product lines and can’t afford to maintain adequate inventory levels to supply their customers. Quality is also a question if they are not making their own implants.
And then there is a new company with the design, and manufacturing experience as well as the capital to challenge the Major Implant companies, potentially creating a price point shift in the impant industry. Just click on the banner ad on this website to find out more about what could really represent a paradym shift in the implant industry - Application Specific Implants sold on the internet at factory direct prices. When you challenge the major companies’s on innovation and value, you better be able to make a high quality product because the multi-billion dollar companies will be looking for any way to be critical in order to compete without actually lowering their prices.
Cost is certainly a factor in this shift. No one wants to pay for a big companies marketing program. But the big shift stems from OUR shift in paradigm. Early and immediate loading, super aesthetics, and bioactive materials are driving this change. Our ability to design biologically driven rather than engineering driven implant designs renders many of the old styles obsolete. We are tired of the implant du jour from the big companies who wish only to maintain market share with little or no science. Matched with a speaker of high visibility, most implant dentists flock to these new designs becuase of the marketing network, NOT the implant design. Implantologists are now looking at these designs with a very critical eye on performance, not hype.
Major Paradigm Shift in the Dental Implant Market?
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In an interesting new study on the state of the dental implant market, Millennium Research Group reported that the big four dental implant companies are beginning to lose market share to new competitors.
Specifically, Nobel Biocare, Straumann, 3i, and Zimmer Dental, the “big four”, held 73.7% of total dental implant market revenues in 2004. By
comparison, in the first quarter of 2006, the big four garnered only 70.1%
of all revenues.
Is this the start of a major paradigm shift in implant dentistry? Will the host of newer competitors continue to steal market share away from the big four? What factors will determine the market share breakup in the future? Is there really a system lock-in here or will lower pricing convince existing dental implant practitioners to move or even try another dental implant system? Perhaps, the expanding use of dental implants, by even GP’s, will ensure a more fragmented market in the future. What are your thoughts and what factors do you consider when evaluating the newer dental implant systems?
Note: For more information on this recent study by Millennium Research Group, please visit: www.MRG.net
Hey are you and iron nipples in the same bed together?
I think your a wannabe promoter who never made the cut and is now bashing otc around.
Get a life and move on to the next one
That amount is not that alarming, usually I get alarmed when I see several millions being paid out.
Look at some at the IRPs and see the amount of crap they get.
Thats alarming.
Any word QualityStocks on the naked shorters?
pent up low stock price??? LOL
I'm still pretty happy considering the market is sink ing like a stone.
Any good news will take us up...
Hope your night is good
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
Have you found out more on SSGI and their crooked attempts?
OT: AIG has hundreds of billions in assets with money in the bank but guess what, the market onnly values them at $2 right now.
You should learn to read balance sheets, share structures, PE/Ratios and most of all, please tell your SSGI broker to stop calling other brokers around asking for shares they can borrow.
Yeah the world knows your game buster "R"
BANG BANG BANG and take the money!!
I always thought that the market determines the shareprice.
Is OCBM faily valued?
Is AIG fairly valued.
The CC with AIG CEO Liddy tells all that AIG's book value is $20 per share but it is trading at $2 per share. Oh what a scam!!!!!
You should subscribe to the WSJ, your in NYC right? ROFLMAO!
SSGI and Benny Luc are notorious shorters. All in my humble opinion of course.
In my humble opinion, Beeny Luc is in bed with SSGI and now has been reported to the SEC.
Good luck and don't forget to pack the soap.
Hey SSGI do you think you can lay off tomorrow? TIA
The Short Report on (SSGI) Seton Securities Group, Inc.
Seton Securities Group has been shorting small-cap companies such as OpenCell BioMed, Inc. (OCBM.OB) and Tri-Star Holdings, Inc. (TSHL.PK). Today we attempted to speak directly to Seton Securities’ President regarding this issue, but he declined to provide any details of the SEC ongoing investigation of the shorting of stocks and wouldn’t comment on the possibility of the SEC requesting records or other information from his company or others that are continuing to short stocks.
He even declined to give his full name. However, he did say they have not heard from federal investigators and have “no comment” regarding the shorting of stocks.
In mid-September, the SEC announced that would be expanding their ongoing investigation into possible market manipulation. SEC Chairman Christopher Cox stated, “Investors have a right to know that the rule of law is being enforced and that our capital markets are not being manipulated. We are working together with our regulatory partners at NYSE Regulation and FINRA in order to quickly identify, isolate and aggressively prosecute any violations of the federal securities laws during this period of market turmoil.”
The Director of the SEC’s Division of Enforcement assertively stated, “Abusive short selling, market manipulation and false rumor mongering for profit by any entity cuts to the heart of investor confidence in our markets. Such behavior will not be tolerated. We will root it out, expose it, and subject the guilty parties to the full force of the law.”
Companies such as Seton Securities Group who have unethically, and possibly illegally, manipulated stock prices for their own personal gain stand to be brutally prosecuted. If these firms are forced to cover their short positions, the positive effects on the share price of these small-cap companies could be enormous as the firms scramble to quickly buyback the shares they shorted. Investors should keep a close eye on this developing story and not lose faith in our nation’s justice system.
After more research we did find the following information:
If you would like to contact (SSGI) Seton Securities Group, Inc. and ask them about their shorting policies their info is below:
SETON SECURITIES GROUP, INC.
CRD# 18044
SEC# 8-36105
Main Office Location
1400 UNION AVE.
UNION BEACH, NJ 07735
Regulated by FINRA Woodbridge Office
Direct Owners and Executive Officers
Legal Name (if any): MAYER, CHARLES HENRY
CRD# 1367681
Position CHAIRMAN,CEO
Position Start Date 03/2005
Percentage of Ownership 75% or more
Does this owner direct the management or policies of the firm? Yes
Legal Name & CRD# (if any): CHM FINANCIAL, INC.
Position: SHAREHOLDER
Position Start Date: 08/2004
Percentage of Ownership: 10%, but less than 25%
Legal Name: MATTIA, LESLIE ANTHONY
CRD# 1469405
Position: CHIEF COMPLIANCE OFFICER
Position Start Date: 01/2006
Percentage of Ownership: Less than 5%
Indirect Owners:
Legal Name & CRD# (if any): MAYER, CHARLES HENRY
1367681
Is this a domestic or foreign Individual entity or an individual? Individual
Company through which indirect ownership is established: CHM FINANCIAL, INC
Relationship to Direct Owner: CHAIRMAN
Relationship Established: 07/2004
Percentage of Ownership: 75% or more
Does this owner direct the management or policies of the firm? Yes
We look forward to the comments from Seton Securities Group, Inc.
The Short Report on (SSGI) Seton Securities Group, Inc.
Seton Securities Group has been shorting small-cap companies such as OpenCell BioMed, Inc. (OCBM.OB) and Tri-Star Holdings, Inc. (TSHL.PK). Today we attempted to speak directly to Seton Securities’ President regarding this issue, but he declined to provide any details of the SEC ongoing investigation of the shorting of stocks and wouldn’t comment on the possibility of the SEC requesting records or other information from his company or others that are continuing to short stocks.
He even declined to give his full name. However, he did say they have not heard from federal investigators and have “no comment” regarding the shorting of stocks.
In mid-September, the SEC announced that would be expanding their ongoing investigation into possible market manipulation. SEC Chairman Christopher Cox stated, “Investors have a right to know that the rule of law is being enforced and that our capital markets are not being manipulated. We are working together with our regulatory partners at NYSE Regulation and FINRA in order to quickly identify, isolate and aggressively prosecute any violations of the federal securities laws during this period of market turmoil.”
The Director of the SEC’s Division of Enforcement assertively stated, “Abusive short selling, market manipulation and false rumor mongering for profit by any entity cuts to the heart of investor confidence in our markets. Such behavior will not be tolerated. We will root it out, expose it, and subject the guilty parties to the full force of the law.”
Companies such as Seton Securities Group who have unethically, and possibly illegally, manipulated stock prices for their own personal gain stand to be brutally prosecuted. If these firms are forced to cover their short positions, the positive effects on the share price of these small-cap companies could be enormous as the firms scramble to quickly buyback the shares they shorted. Investors should keep a close eye on this developing story and not lose faith in our nation’s justice system.
After more research we did find the following information:
If you would like to contact (SSGI) Seton Securities Group, Inc. and ask them about their shorting policies their info is below:
SETON SECURITIES GROUP, INC.
CRD# 18044
SEC# 8-36105
Main Office Location
1400 UNION AVE.
UNION BEACH, NJ 07735
Regulated by FINRA Woodbridge Office
Direct Owners and Executive Officers
Legal Name (if any): MAYER, CHARLES HENRY
CRD# 1367681
Position CHAIRMAN,CEO
Position Start Date 03/2005
Percentage of Ownership 75% or more
Does this owner direct the management or policies of the firm? Yes
Legal Name & CRD# (if any): CHM FINANCIAL, INC.
Position: SHAREHOLDER
Position Start Date: 08/2004
Percentage of Ownership: 10%, but less than 25%
Legal Name: MATTIA, LESLIE ANTHONY
CRD# 1469405
Position: CHIEF COMPLIANCE OFFICER
Position Start Date: 01/2006
Percentage of Ownership: Less than 5%
Indirect Owners:
Legal Name & CRD# (if any): MAYER, CHARLES HENRY
1367681
Is this a domestic or foreign Individual entity or an individual? Individual
Company through which indirect ownership is established: CHM FINANCIAL, INC
Relationship to Direct Owner: CHAIRMAN
Relationship Established: 07/2004
Percentage of Ownership: 75% or more
Does this owner direct the management or policies of the firm? Yes
We look forward to the comments from Seton Securities Group, Inc.
CNSJ was okay today but the other one did NOTHING there bud.
I'm relooking at Mageelan Energy again (MGLG) for a way over due bounce.
It finally looks as though that all the selling has finally stoppped.
9 out of 10 stocks were red today. You must of had some horse shoes up your you know what.
suicide rates are at an all time high
Newbie here picked up a few shares for the just in case run scenario.
There is another oil stock that I think has more potential but this one is being pushed currently so I pick a few up.
What is exactly the float around here?
Same here just added today. Just a matter of time.