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Very interesting Kneehigh. Sell to Powerade or Gatorade you say. Wonder why Pepsi or Coke would want to buy a product that competes directly with theirs ?? Both just expanded their lines. Have you seen the TIGER commercial ?.
Find your post very interesting beyond that however. How did you come upon such information ??? A new investor at that ! No knowledge of history on any front and yet privy to such a possible game plan.
A growing seed as the saying goes.
Just one more " little " correction GIT: not to be arguementative but to clarify. Through much examination I believe it accurate to say that the GBVS crew in control of THAT company at that time DID NOT try to market the beverage. If I'm correct their only role was to provide the needed monies through the sale of shares and to fund RBIs marketing of the product. That alledgedly did not occur.
As others have suggested they ( the old boys ) took the money and ran like thieves in the night. Perhaps this is why the Federal Bureau of Investigation is making inquiries. Just speculation at this point.
I'm defending the quality of the beverage, nothing more. To market a beverage quality is only a small percentage of what's important, doubt that ? look around the shelves. Distribution, POS incentives, ability to pay slot fees, advertising, those are the real catalyst. When expected venture capitol is suddenly and drastically shorted you, you fail. You can't pay for the necessary elements needed to succeed with " sales received ", not for a long long time. Don't forget ingredients costs, labels, bottleing fees etc.
A quarter promised, a nickel received. R.I.P. RBI.
ACT II, may need the dream team to defend that. I'm certinly not in a position to, nor would I take the case.
Few little misconceptions there. Don't think you'll find that GBVS " diluted " anything at this point as it relates to RUNU. Best info. available is that GBVS didn't grab their shares " yet ". No grabbing, no PR. The $2 million (1.8) was " IF " RBI went public ? GBVS's choice on share option.
Rudy did not make the drink !! someone else did, and the formula was genius. Many many industry people and health related people will back that up. Cutting edge and totally unique, like it or not. In focus groups it destroyed the competition in taste. In preference purchase polls after ingredient lecture it stood alone, almost exclusive choice.
Making a drink and marketing a drink are naturally two different endeavors as is forming a company and forming a company so as to go public. Intent and execution are what's in question. Intent ? many opinions, execution ? speaks for itself. PRs ? we all know that game.
Merci GIT: After following the many chat rooms from basically RBIs inception, from reading and making mental notes from selective posters and announcements along the way, many things have become apparent. Although they had great potential they were initially led into a trap. Who's ultimately resposible for that is a yet unknow unless given that the whole scenerio was contrived from the start by overseers and it was not a trap at all. I think not but leave open the possibilitiy. Regardless, actions taken to establish the company since then have consistantly been more than suspect as is apparent. S.E.C. investigations and now F.B.I. investigations involving the womb from which they were born. Will they lead to RUNU ? hope not but not optomistic they won't. Prior associations and know current associations coupled with ACUF and their past baggage. Anyones guess at this point. Glad I didn't take the plunge and sorry for those who did. Been an education lurking however !
giggle-giggle, good comeback Rog.....
'Ya see YHNI people wanted to not only make money on this company, they wanted to believe in it also and thats why your mentality sucks in this situation. They wanted to be in on the ground floor of something great and watch it grow. A positive image, a positive product and possible great potential. An investment with a relationship mentality, not a day trader mentality. That's been shot in the ass now. Integrity has been lost and when plants pop messages in at appropriate times it just adds to the bad taste. One thing is true... message boards don't really mean anything when it comes to moving pps. That's a fact. However they can mean everything when enough investors feel they were wronged and make a big enough stink about it. That companies often times overlook. When your name is known you better dot your I's and cross your T's to safeguard against accusations that can hurt you, accurate or not. That wasn't done and this is the result. Often said, you can tell what a man is by the company he keeps, the places he frequents and his past deeds. N.D. & Hollywood are history now. Acuf holders and employees of the past are the legacy. Real shame I'd say.
That's because your a plant. And not a very good one at that.
And the bullshit continues.... actors find your marks.
Why not ask UHNI ? he should know. After all he already tipped his hand. tic-tic-tic-tic-tic
Did you check out UHNIs history ? # of posts and posting times. Hummmn ??? Almost Lebed like but not all pumps. Todays closing may say something about him. Just love it when somebody commits.
Physical appearance may be significant situationally as may appearance as applied in a speculative sense of impression. However, unless he has 666 or the like tattooed on his knucles I wouldn't A weight it much. JMHO.
His near term actions (announcements etc.) or lack of will support or dispel the antagonistic feelings most have at this point. He'll determine his own destiny with this stock. Let it live or die on its merits and he along with it.
The ball is in his court, let him trow it over the window on his own initiative. U have a good day 2
Hey WEB, quick question if you please. What happened to the F/S , dividens and reputation saving moves you refered to ? Little vacillation in your posts as of late.
He's a choir boy compared to those connected to your old ACUF and Accupoll holding co. How did anyone invest with that group ?
Does seem a bit suspect doesn't it ? Stranger things have happened I imagine but this seems to be reaching a little 'eh.
Do you know that for a fact ????
No authority on the matter at hand. Nothing concrete to counter or even " dilute " the allegations or hostilities that abound. However, do think it possible that much of this is premature at this point. I would imagine in a relatively short period of time his (their) true intent and methodology will be clarified far beyond speculation and either solidify supporting the worse allegations of the investors or diffuse them with yet to be announced information. Nothing is really clear yet. Not defending, not supporting and can't explain their execution thus far. Just think it's a little premature to circle the wagons at this point. They're gonna have to reveal their coordinates shortly. Once defined I'd call in the air strike if justified. JMHO
No it doesn't. Didn't expect heavy buying on this really but just a little surprised at the drop.
but down 30% on a lousy 36k volume ?????
Probably for the best for now till we see how things play out.
My condolences for your loss.
That would be nice. Maybe then the RUDYSCAM site will disappear or 'least b put away till we see what b happen'n ?
Most probably yes - and I think there's a decent chance we'll be reasonably satisfied. Seeing from here you have basically nothing to lose it may be fun to see what developes.
M A Y B E ??? even the 9000/1 will even make a "little" more sense "maybe"!
BTW- thanks so much for the heads-up on Les Mis. Scoped it out, must have and will order this week. PQ's performing in the west end at present.
maybe we should send some copies around concerning a certin text.
" Honest Work "
" Just Reward "
" THAT'S the way to please the LORD "
- and a whole shit load of investors !
Understood and agree wholeheartedly........BOL
Toulon France. Too much hostile speculation too soon with too many unknows at this point to judge. Maybe when a little more smoke clears so will the picture. IMHO it's best to stay holstered 'till then. Clearer target if 'ya decide at that point it's justified to shoot so to speak.
mei bien...
Chill !!!
I just can't believe you said that ! Absolutely 100% correct about Quast. Nobody could do that role better, that's why I chose Javert. I hope you have the 20th. Anniversery issue on DVD ??? if not buy it. Perfection in that format.
Now if we could just loose a few Thenardiers here we could find out exactly what the hell is happening and why.
Couldn't agree more on that point !!!!
- word around the campfire is old 24601 just got pinched for pimping out Cosette. Got'ta make up for all those lost years one way or another I suspect.
Nah' He initially got ripped off by others when he first started developeing his first beverage venture. Now I think he's doing whatever he can to get enough funding to get this current venture off the ground and pay off accumulated debts from the past. Problem is he's probably flying blind and most likely getting poor advice from people not qualified to give it even though they think they are. In the meantime, unintentional or not, people get screwed along with his rep.