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Geez: I'd bet he'd draw a good crowd if he came back to Buffalo though. I remember how a grocery store chain owner told me how he was gonna have a special alcove built just for RBI products in the beverage section of the new store he was building. Maybe he'd show up also.
Would love to but I have a schedule conflict that won't permit it. More than a few anticipate maybe seeing him give a speech on court TV one of these days. Him and a few others.
LOL, do like your analogy ....... and true to boot.
Have a good weekend !
I would say that's a safe assumption. Just about on par with the Buffalo Bills not going to the Bowl this year.
Regardless your still in the game !
And a good one at that !
Thinking with the " six " under a nut at this point and the little threads that connect past and present there remains a good possibility that if the proper inquires are made on particular matters at hand some may seek to lessen the fall.
Can't say for sure but the sudden abandonment of the Marshall deal smells a bit like a freeze of movement perhaps due to the " Great EYE's " peeking.
Perhaps just a friendly disagreement on what should come first
( which is the cart, which is the horse ) but I'd personally prefer to give the suits the opportunity to prove or support some issues before the 1/3 rds. + expenses come to play.
Many many allegations and some poor track covering by a few along this twisted road. Think only a few need to be heard to
substantiate a solid " civil ". I suppose what's in contention is who should get their soles dirty first.
OOOOPs ! REID, not Reed....
Thank you, and I mean that. You take care and best always regardless of any prior banter. Do think it's best to have a foundation of information and questions ready before approaching a target however. Not just for the sake of the old Reed Method ( not an absolute in my book anyways ) but for narrowing the path of escape also. Think it most probable that everyone would lawyer up anyways if they haven't already. The element of surprise is long gone at this point. But who knows what tomorrow brings ?
Gee LAST thanks for your efforts. Few things though. Number one is I don't drink. Second, All transactions are recorded and easily traced. Any and all transactions documented as they should occur.
Just off the top of my head I'd bet you'd be looking at a P/I bill of somewhere in the neighborhood of $150k + for them to even come close to the information already exposed. Besides I know more than a few former feebees in that business myself. Don't need them right now though. You pay when needed, not before. Nice to have the skins ready when the time comes to sign the contract. Right now we're all paying for the act one guys to do their thing. Act two comes later.
Hope you properly advised them to look at the B/R site. More and more people do. Geez, If the outfit you mentioned got the case I wonder who would be the first people they would want to talk to ?
Welcome back Louie. Missed 'ya for a while there old friend.
Glad to see your still here. So tell me me amigo, what " HUGE DEAL " are you speaking of ??? I realize he always has something in the works but " huge " ? Are we missing something ? No excuse but I have been fairly busy as of late and perhaps not paying as much attention as I should to the matter at hand but I'm just a wee bit curious as to what your speaking of ?.
Look, I know we've had our history here but I think in more than a few ways we share some common feelings about how we would like this to end. Or perhaps how it should end if there is anyway of making people accountable for their actions. There remains a very real possibility of this Lou, very real !
Just a wee bit of history if you didn't know ( more than a few here don't ). The (midnight) move wasn't intended to hurt the investor. It was intended to save them. The one for five was a CHIP intended to placate the " Great Eye ". Those pupils were already fixed on the crew and people advised it might be in their best interest to start cleaning the house. Why do 'ya think old Dickie moved on ? Guess he may move again :o). But that's not the point. One big common denominator through it all (actually a few). Damn O/C behavior of a few. Perhaps not diagnosed, but assigned.
And the young buck said to his father as they watched the herd of doe from their position on the hill ---
I spoke with him somewhere around the ACUP deal. I won't discuss my motives at this time. Soon after he called me and asked why I publicly posted (yahoo board) that " my dream died with my last bottle of Revolution " in light of our prior
conversation the previous week.
I believe it possible that most questions can be answered by reading the e-mails received section of Badrudy.com and browsing the rest of the sight. If it doesn't answer a number of questions it should surely pose some new ones in the readers mind.
'Ya, I got in just a little earlier than you. I had hundreds of posts on the old R/B board which went from positive to negative as things developed and the picture became clearer.
They had a shot at salvation but a few didn't want it. Maybe someday the whole story will come out ? What a web we weave .
IMJX, thanks I'll take a look and pass it on. Got a few board bro's who are D/D demons.
Nice to meet you Streets'. I feel your pain but perhaps on a grander scale. I was here almost from the start IE. GBVS, RBI, R/P , RUNU, RUDN, pretty much saw and followed it all. Do You follow BADRUDY.COM ??? The e-mails received section is really great reading. I'm out about 30k with expenses. Me and mine ( family and associates ) about 150k.
Regardless what you may read here and there this had great promise and didn't start out as a total scam as some have suggested. What it turned into due to the injected cancer ( IMHO )is something else. Many good people worked to make a good go of this. But we all know what a few malignant cells can do to the body 'eh !
Too bad for some there's a few researchers who've been studying the diseases pathology and although will never be able to cure it still may be able to help see that it never spreads again with the help of some newly injected experts who have it under the scope. Many kinds of cells out there 'eh ?
Thanx for the post. Getting kind of lonely here.
Jeez: Been a whole month since the last post. Bet 'ya a buck a few people were thinking maybe everybody got bored and moved on. Think maybe a few were kinda happy about it too. No more checking to see what other angry people were saying etc. etc..
Maybe no more worry about what could get exposed for all to see ? You know what I mean.
But guess what ? ain't gonna happen !!!
A few are here for the duration. All the way to the curtin call.
Just wanted to keep you informed old buddy.
Just read on a site by an alledged TRIVITA member that Rudy enrolled in the TRIVITA program on March 17th. of this year.
Wow !
Per post # 4139 I thought perhaps I may hear from you ? That is all. Nice to know that you started peeking again from time to time. " If at all " - you are invited if you so wish.
Even without substantial monetary loss you have to admit this board provides cheap entertainment on occasion.
I think it appropriate for handing out two awards in light of the recent developements and associated communications as they pertain to the matter at hand.
First award goes to you-know-who for having perhaps the biggest set of jewels I've ever encountered in allowing to be made public his new business venture.
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The Second award goes to you for being the biggest b-ll buster on any message board I've ever encountered.
Quite appropriate I would think that someone with a major pair would have someone so skilled in busting pairs positioned just inches behind the twins in question.
Funny when you give them a lil' squeeze now and then.
Being the company has been around for 10 years it's hard to know at this point what their intention is with the man. I would imagine any attempt to go public with it would be discovered in short order and blasted around the boards.
There's a number of sites if you Google TriVita to give a little perspective.
NOPALEA @ $$$$$$ per month. Just what everyone can afford right now. Maybe you could put a shot of PURPLE BEVERAGE in it for an added kick. Or maybe one of the AMWAY products ?
WHERE ARE YOU MATTHEW ??????????
Bacon: you took my thunder. I was wondering the same thing.
Think he'll have the twins to go public with it ? Another nice shell perhaps ?
~ OH WE WILL FOLLOW HIM, follow him......
~ FOLLOW HIM WHEREVER HE MAY GOOOOOOO .....
~ THERE ISN'T AN OCEAN TOO DEEP ...........
~ A MOUNTAIN SO HIGH IT CAN KEEEEEP, keep us away .......
.... away from his CHARTS !!!!!!!
I just knew that would make your day !!!!!!!
Somebody deserves an award for the biggest pair EVER !
Jeez: I wonder if its registered in Nevada ? There was some scuttlebutt about owning one business while another business was defaulted on with outstanding judgements. Something about that not being kosher in that state. Boy I hope that's not the case here. Hope maybe our buddy GORUDY has some insight on this.
Maybe a few others might want to take a further look also. The more opinions the better. Sure would be nice to have a few more diggers too.
BACON: I simply can't thank you enough for the info. " Sample and PURCHASE ". GREAT ! No need to fret about Christmas gifts for the family and friends this year. Can just see the expression on their faces when they see what I got 'em. Think it will pretty much mimic that of Hannibal Lechter (baton in hand) " ready when you are Sgt. Pennbray ".
Think I'll spend Christmas abroad this year and let UPS be Santa's helper.
'Oh I bet there's more. Think maybe you would need a shovel to find it though? Maybe a passport for some of it too ??
Better be careful there Badrudy, people might start thinking your developeing a baddddd attitude.
Wonder why as of late some of my posts get through and others don't while I'm following all the rules. I love the excitement of the unknown. Speculation can be really, really fun sometimes.
Speculation and coincidence. Keeps one motivated.
I address this to no one in particular.
What's here @ Yahoo. Drop me a line if your so inclined. What's next ??? Maybe a nice three way, think you'd like my friend Obewon.
BTW - this board is monitored daily
No pro, as we know I do it all the time.......
First of all my old friend the minute I read " lipstick " I figured it was you. After looking back at the monikor that confirmed it. CMM is kind of a gimmie.
Hope all is well on your end and have thought about you from time to time as things developed. You were referred to sans the name when I wrote of the 4 other posters who are the key contributors to illuminating the facts of the past. You, your gal DGL and two others. Plus a few industry people. I see that SCB just alluded to me in some context on F/B. He is a very nice man. I was in Baltimore recently and only regret I didn't have the time to invite him to diner.
The Javert entity is now mine alone. Very impressive man who origionally contact me on the concept is now stepping aside for a multitude of reasons.
Sorry, Not from the " get go " 'cept for one. That informations been posted elseware.
B/R - He is the " terminator " ! Super-Fly with a titanium " pair " and " Colo " class knowledge. My numero uno homey.
Man what a wrecking tag-team you two would have made.
" The mine field your in " remember ? already knew then but there was a map available to navigate through it at that time.
Tough to show All your cards when your as jaded as I am. Motive and the 5 rules keep you on edge whether it be the frontal attack or the trojan horse. As you know it's scoring the touch down that counts. Really not how you got it, who contributed the most, who got bruised along the way, who designed the play etc. etc. . Just who won when the whistle blows.
You still have my E- ??? open invitiation, 24-7-365. For a security measure ( if it wouldn't offend you ? ) broker it through SCB if he doesn't object. Maybe we can go from there on a strictly congeinial basis if you so choose.
Just a final retort then we won't dance anymore.
There's a reason for the monikor. Easily identified and remembered by the dozens of badges I innocently brought into this mess from the early days. From NY to the great southwest and Canada and even to the middle-east. Three people contributed to the name Javert 'till I recently made it exclusively mine. There was a reason for that I won't get into to.
" screwing off somewhere " ? Don't have the ease of access to N.C.I.C anymore. Nor D.C.J.S., nor NYSPIN etc. etc. You would know what they are I suspect ( then again maybe not ).
You try digging without them. No fun taking the long road.
Did you ever read the E-mails received portion of B/R ? how many names did you count ? how many companies ? now try and connect the dots. Bet 'ya a buck the Feebs got a lot more hours into just taking down the six that are in the bag. Much more.
Sub Deu Techs come first, not search warrants. Just symantics perhaps.
What ??? tip lines are of no value when it comes to wetting the old whistle ? OK, don't even know how to address that train of thought.
Should I get a penny on a dollar back I would consider it found money. That's not why I'm here. My 20s + grand is miniscule. It's the over 150 Gs from associates that keep me motivated. Few other reasons too.
Didn't say you were Charlie. Just insinuated the possiblilty. Think now you just may have well been.
The 20 was mentioned on this board .
I'll keep sucking my manuer and hope it makes the garden grow when I spit it out on the shoots. You can go suck on your cocktail or whatever while others tip a glass on your tab.
Yes TRUTH I gave you my E-. You and dozens of others. And BTW although you did mention a joint effort it was discussed with other investors weeks before if not longer. Not to diminish your initial intent which I believe most likly sincere. BUTTTT wouldn't that be a lovely way for the opposition to try and get an inside view for a mere 20 dollars ???
A Veteran. THANK YOU !
A State investigator somewhere ? maybe ? maybe not ? got to be cautious out there you know. Charlie is everywhere.
Question: would you and say a partner spend upwards of 1,000 hours collectively investigating a case on your off duty time hoping only to stop hundreds it not thousands of future innocent victims from getting hurt and perhaps maybe even getting some restitution for current victims should things go right ? Phone calls, e-mails, letters, research, depositions etc. etc.. I wonder. Oh yeah, some threats and harassment along the way too.
Know it all ? bet 'ya a whole bunch I know one hell of a lot more than you. 'Ya see everybody knows me and I know them back. And the only ones I don't know I know all about. That's thanks to research and three other investors and some really good people who were there during it all.
You hope "YOU", never get yours back either... So you hope the thousands of victims never get back that which was taken from them. Just because you couldn't get what you wanted the victims can go to hell 'eh ? Be happy I was never your commander, You wouldn't have liked working for me. Nobody with that additude ever did. Not for long anyways.
Too bad you lacked the tact to approach things the right way.
BOL anyways, as I said before.
Hey Truth !!!!! Where'd you go ???? I see a couple of your posts suddenly disappeared too.
Hope there's no hard feelings....... really shouldn't be.
Hell, as two former snoops we both know its the TRUTH that counts in the long run 'eh. The truth and justice, nothing more.
BOL !
HEY LOUIE !!! happy 04th. old friend. What do you make of all this ?
Just a few issues to address concerning the content of some recent posts. Sorry, can't help myself......
Let's have a little perspective concerning some unfounded allegations. TRUTH' came right out and SAID SCAM. Not insinuated it could have the appearence of one but actually said it as an allegation. " BRING US THE BODY " Truth !!!
I'm sure such a learned law enforcement investigator knows the term used for that. Let's have a public hearing right here on-board so you can make your case. Hope you won't mind if I do a little cross on you ?
For the record. I have never met B/R but have communicated with him in the past. I also have relationships with others who have done the same with one particular " other " seeming to have a superior knowledge of company events and what I perceive to be far better investigative skills and knowledge of law enforcement protocol then a shoot-from-the-hip poster with shoot-from-the-hip accusations. And yes I did send in a donation for a variety of reasons.
Now I don't know what it costs B/R to maintain the site or the initial fees incurred. But I would imagine that if someone were to undertake such a task as a business and charge even minimul wage the hours devoted would run into the thousands.
However this does not seem to be the case here. I will state that at one point I did contact B/R and offer to make a donation in support of his efforts which he quickly declined. His gracious endeavor in donating his own time and expenses should not go unapplauded. Nor IMHO should his effort to ask for donations for a specific cause of which he would not realize any greater gain than any other included party (should the desired result occur) be condemned. After all if one were to review past posts from numerous investors they would find it was others that suggested the above be undertaken.(IE legal fund).
Scrutiny is a form of security. A good thing under the circumstances. Unsupported accusations however is another matter. RED FLAGS can blow both ways.
Are your concerns raised ? PAYPAL has great records. Again the old money trail, private E-mails, candidacy of identification and location and on and on. Doesn't smell too too fishy to me at this point. Never a guarentee in life but some pretty safe bets I would think. Especially if one does a little probeing.
LITTLE QUESTION FOR TRUTH - An associate suggested I pose this question to you. Explain why during an investigation the investigator will often times not disclose all evidence gathered thus far. Not even to other investigators from the same office not related to the case. Nor the victim, nor the public. ??? Same goes for strategy, Why ???
TO INVESTORTRUTH: If you actually worked in a state investigative capacity "for years" then I suggest you review all the information that has been obtained thus far. If after having done so you don't see or understand why doing some things are necessary and NOT doing somethings are just as necessary if not more so then for an investigator I'm a wee bit suspicous of your perception. But then again most in law enforcement know the term State Investigator can mean a gambit of things. Bunch of agiences have that title, bunch of political appointees have a good portion of those positions.
Not always much talent, training or savvy for the positions but with the right Rabbi they get the appointment anyways.
" STATE INVESTIGATOR " - sorry, but at his point not yet impressed.
Look deep Shamus, " what does he do this man you seek ?".
PSSSST - I'll tell you one thing he does. He plants people regardless of what Lou Chip says. He has a whole lot of input from people of a similar mindset assisting him also.
Makes me wonder Truth, ARE YOU A SEED ? freshly watered maybe?
Hope not but the theme and content of your posts really make me wonder. Especially alledgedlly comming from someone somehow involved in some type of law enforcement that should really know better, John "Q" Citizen fine, but not a badge. Least not a good one.
My bad ! Forgot to mention the 1.2 million the investors never got any benefit from because according to GBVS that debt was never repaid by RUDN (even though RUDN's filings indicate that it was).
Some might say it's possible the whole affair was set up to go to the laundry ?
What do you say Lou ??
NO! NO! NO! Lou. I'll say it again but real s l o w this time so maybe you'll catch it ???? Web and the rest didn't lose because of greed on this stock. They lost because of
T H E F T...... It's all there for the reading Lou. Indictments, False announcements, Badrudy.com etc. etc.
It's everywhere you look, to bad after the fact though.
Let's look at some names Lou. Google them later.
Lindberg
DeCesares
Lankford
Gordon
Augistino
Stephens
Quinn
Reskin
Now let's look at some past announcements
GBVS buys Xtreme Beverage,
Look at who was CEO ? why it was T. Farnsworth. Check out his latest endeavor Lou, PPBV - nice chart I'd say wouldn't you. Almost looks familiar doesn't it ?
The SIX MILLION DOLLAR escape ????
On second thought make that 800k 'cuz SOS SERIVCES really really thought it was one big BARGOOOOON and couldn't wait to buy that note. Little math says investors lost 5.2 mil there alone. Wonder what SOS really lost ?
Thank God for the 800k though. OOOOPS guess the investors never got that either. Not to worry though. The Rudn deal with FAIRPLAY INTERNATIONAL will really give the company a chance to soar and pay back GBVS and thus its shareholders.
OOOOPs, Where is this Fairplay ? where is RUDN ? guess the shareholders lose again.
GREED you say LOU ? Damn right son. But you should be pointing the Glock in the right direction.
What a game plan it was Lou. All thought out before the first kick-off it appears. Players set, everybody know their positions, plays brought in at the right time, ball fumbled at the right time, passes dropped at the right time, then leave the field and go home a loser. But a much richer loser.
WEB: The SEC with support of the FBI appear to be cracking down harder as of late. Lot'sa bad press after the Madoff fiasco and others. Not saying they deserved all of it being one on the most overworked agencies in existence. Buttt sometimes bagging a " celeb " garners some positive publicity and I think under the circumstances they'd be salivating once the surface gets scratched a little deeper. The residual associates alone would give most enforcement agencies a " woody " and with six on a " nut " who knows ???
' Oh yeah, the SHADOW knows !
Lou: Sorry 'bout the delay. Last minute overseas trip.
Now " Guarantee " " Cuz' Rudy did nothing wrong ! ".
Maybe it's just me but I find it kind of funny that someone would say that who previously posted, and again I quote
" RUDY SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH YES MEN AND HENCHMEN " ( that was in one post ) andddddd " NOW RUDY OWNED ALL THE STOCK WITH HIS HENCHMEN " that was another separate post. We all know there were a few more statements you made that draw somewhat of a culpable picture of the old Rud' that appears to conflict with your latest assessment of the matter. Starts at post #4069 Lou. You can go back and refresh your recollection if you like my friend.
Naturally I concede that guilt through association is tough to prove situationally. However it's not an absolute if one can show a continuing course of action in conjunction with others. There's a little moniker that may or may not be applicable here. But hey, that's for greater powers than us to decide. Right my vacillating friend ?
Lets just follow the bouncing bucks and see where it all leads to. I know, there's a big onion to be peeled here but there's some pretty experienced chef's in the kitchen who just might want to stir the pot and see what floats to the top. I would think they could figure out what ( or who )is in the stew. And what the hell is making that stew stink soooo bad.
Lou: Smells like a probe to me. Yup, sure does. Sorry if I don't take the bait. Nice try though. Did a lawyer advise you to write that Lou ?. The old " fuse " technique. " FIRE IN THE HOLEEEEEEE ", " HUMPH " didn't go off ? nothing came out. Damn :( ...
Think if there's a " GUARANTEE " it's because.......... on 2nd. thought, NEVER MIND....
I'll post a corresponding retort later.
Dear Louie : Thanks so much for comming back to play some more games.
First off, we don't decide WHEN, the FEDS do. Remember the time lapse between the Lindberg pinch and the rest of the cartel boys. Good things take time sometimes. Took the SEC almost two years to complete round 1. So time is of no consequence ( save for statutes of limitations ).
You say 25 mil.+. OK, maybe ? I was told 4.1 some time ago. Wasn't really that important to me so I didn't bother doing a records search. That's for other people that may be able to do something with those figures to research. Money trails,,,
sweet.
Guess some people have been looking for some other items though. Think they found a few ?
All good things come to those who wait.
Have a good weekend and happy fathers day.
YEAH RIGHT !!!!!!! Lou, " Rudy has no moles ".........
And just what makes you say that Louie ?
Obtained through various means it appears that there have been more " plants " ( some slowly cultivated ) than could readily be found in a Mexican doobie field. Perhaps more " probes " than one might find at a San Fransisco based gay proctologist's office.
25 Mil. mansion ??? Kind'a sounds like a " bait " question Lou. Did you inflate the cost a tad Lou ? Any particular reason you did ?? . Could be a few I can think of.
Been kind of quiet lately. Not much noise at all.
Just remember that the tea pot can't be heard 'till the waters boiled, but all the time it's heating up preparing for that minute. And then ...............................
Missed you Lou. Don't be a stranger.