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Please give us a break here killer. The word "surely" is a little strong IMO, and should be followed by "IMO" IMO. If things keep going well w/ sales there might be no more need for an increases ever, and if sales keep going well, you will never see this under a few cents ever again IMO, because even a break-even point w/ continued progress will alert people to possible huge gains like HANS that went up 10's of thousands of %age points.
I believe that this Serrales deal is pretty big. Serralles is only getting started, and they already have at least 102 stores in PR. Serralles is set up to take HFBV products to the whole Caribbean, and in a relatively short time the big distributor for HP will be revealed as well IMO.
As they keep making progress and we see some profit, .05 will be undervalued, and it will keep moving up. Any profit should shoot this to the moon. If you have real faith that HFBV will make it, even an average of over .01 should not be a big deal now, because IMO the only reason that it is this low is because they have not yet shown a profit or what future profits may be. There are many co's w/ only 1/2 the shares as HFBV who have seen trading from .40 to over 1.00 at just a break-even point and an indication of continued progress.
No duck tape?? I joke. Good to hear they are looking out for the consumer's valuable investment?
good points. you have a good one there Mike.
As positive as they sound about the success of AD Energy Shot and other things, hopefully HFBV revs. will start running things. Also, Calvin Ross said that HP will be getting a "national/international" distributor, so that means a co. like Goya. Maybe that is part of the reason for the extra shares in the O/S. I bet Harold Reyes also got a chunk of HFBV as well. I'm excited to see how Reyes plays into the game here. Have I missed anything in that regards?
Cheers all.
That has happened to me too.
Ok thank you Harley. You post showed up as a reply to a different post, so I was not sure what you had meant. I did read part of the letter. I have not been around as much lately, but 'm trying to keep up w/ the "official" news of what has been going on. Like I said, I already had believed that there was a ton more going on then HFBV had PR'd, so this is not as big of a surprise to me. The 102 stores is a bit os a surprise though. They got the Dogg out pretty quickly. I assume we will be hearing of other distant lands walking the Dogg as well. I mean Serralles is supposed to get HFBV products into the Caribbean region--not just PR.
Best to you.
What was promised by the end of the year? He said dilution, but I assume you did not mean dilution was promised I take it you meant that more transparency was promised? Or were you answering a different post?
Maybe you were answering this post: "They're already starting to get more transparent...
Get everything clear so we know where we stand...
Now get the ball rolling with the big rollout of Hydropower!"
rather than Dead's post.
Doesn't prove that all the AH was dilution though. I'm sure we have had more than 200M in AH. Nevertheless, it was more of an increase than I had expected. One good thing I see in it is that I bet that some of those shares are restricted. Mr. Reyes probably got some restricted shares. It would be nice to know the breakdown, but at least they are being more transparent about it. Now they need to keep the good news coming. You are very right about the O/S compared to the progress and distribution they have in place. Many pinks w/ this much going on are already well over 500M, and some are in the B's. That is one reason why I held onto HFBV in fact. Their progress is has been very good in relation to O/S increase IMO. That is something that I look at. I have sold out of co.'s w/ more progress because they just had too many shares compared to the progress. Not that I have a perfect formula or anything.
I've been there before. I know what you mean. It would be kind of cool to see a consistent 100% gain after a day, but I really don't care if it just slowly moves up. Some of us are getting close to a year into this, and It is just great to see the progress and know that HFBV is making good on the plans they had long ago and then some.
I knew Serralles would be good. In fact, I knew from unofficial sources that they were already walking the Dogg in Puerto Rico. It is good to finally get confirmation that it is true. I did not know that we had over 100 stores in PR. I had only heard of one bakery before.
If they require you to call, they should not charge extra. If they are charging extra, they are ripping you off, and you should either complain or find a new broker, because there are other brokers that don't charge extra if they force you to call.
Best to you.
Also to the Ibox changer, Serralles should not be in the "Rumor Mill", so please separate that and give the icon/link a short description. I need to jet. Thank you.
Whoever is changing the Ibox, nice additions, but I'd like to keep the direct link to google maps. It is not bad to link to BBD's post as well (as you had done) to have him add more locations. I also like the direct link to locations stated by HFBV. If you want to change the configuration, that is fine, but I like the quick links.
Thank you.
Oh sure. Everybody has HFBV limit orders for .0025. Now we can believe everything. Who was it who said that once a stock falls past .01 it is all over? Of course it's not true, but somebody tried to tell people that, and you know who it was. I'm certainly not saying a limit order at that price is bad thing, but everybody needs to try to use their own good judgment. I hope it just continues to go up slowly on its own merit. Not by some group trying to spike it to sell it off to people who have believed them to be little gods.
I put the other one up for you.
Looks like somebody already got it. Thanks for sharing hunggar.
I agree. I did not mean to say you were a doubter. your pic will soon be a done deal. Regards.
Told ya. Not that you were a doubter, but an online friend had told me about three weeks ago that she had seen it in Puerto Rico. I had mentioned it here, but I had no pics to prove it. Thanks for the news.
I hear you there. I forgot about the bubble wrap or whatever they use to protect the product. Somebody else one told me they had paid a ton to ship though too. They only paid it because they were investors and were dying to try the product. Maybe there are some glitches and the system occasionally gives the wrong shipping amount. Actual cost plus $3.00 would be a great deal on S/H. Thank you for the suggestions.
Weasel should just become an official dealer. That way he can get cheaper product, He won't have to steal signs anymore, and he can offer better shipping. S/H on a six-pack should be like $15.00 max. That would allow for at least $20/hr packaging (I could pack a box w/in 15 minutes), which is plenty. It should be a little more if they have to transport and wait in line at the PO, but I think you can arrange have USPS pick up the flat-rates at your location. $33.25 is quite odd, and I'd like to know why it is that much. If I could charge that much and get away w/ it (and still get customers) I'd be a dealer myself, but I cannot buy here. however, I could get a container full of product (like 35,000 cans) for like $7,500 in shipping.
Good day to y'all.
Huh? Are you saying HFBV could be punished for being self-made and doing good? I certainly don't agree w/ Obama 100%, but I doubt he would make it if he were to try to take away tax deductions and such. We are all on shaky ground, and if he were to try to pull something that is not going to work, then I'm sure a few million people will have something to say about it. It's not like the president is God or anything.
Was that a statement, a command, or a question w/o the question mark? All I can say is that the proof is in the pudding. Who knows exactly what will happen in the world of politics. Nothing POLITICAL is going to make or break HFBV just yet IMO, and that is what is the subject of the board.
Good point Wrangler. I don't think Obama is out to crush co.'s by taxing on $ they did not make. The proof is always in the pudding, but I think Obama was more interested in increasing taxes on the wealthy and super rich. A couple of HFBV's leadership might pay out a little more, but they the feds. won't hit HFBV for quite a while IMO.
Sounds like a reasonable conclusion.
56? Maybe it will get us in somebody's will
On about Nov. 5th or thereabouts it will be 2 mos., so technically it has not been months since the last PR. We on Ihub community are doing our own PR's now anyway
Ok. Thanks for clarifying that. Exciting to watch this unfold. Good day to you.
Oh. I thought you said she was working on it. If she actually completed the order, Goya must be a done deal then. Great news. Maybe we soon get an official PR on that.
The only thing I have to say about that is that Serralles is supposed to distribute HP in the Caribbean. Maybe Goya will just have an exclusive continental US contract or something like that. Though I have heard about AD in Puerto Rico, which is a US territory, I have not recently heard about HP there, even though the past PR listed HP as one of the products Serralles would distribute in the Caribbean.
Well that will be the first we know of then. I hope it works out soon, and then we can have proof to PR it on IHUB ourselves. Seems like Goys is nearly a sure thing. Why else would they have an HFBV Hydro Power sign at the show? Goya must have at least be positive about closing a deal w/ HFBV at the time. Keep us posted.
Yes. However, I still maintain that HFBV could be back in the cents in no time w/ some news of favorable sales and product in prominent stores. If there was the right combo. of reasonable stock promotion and sales to back it up, I think HFBV could be attractive to more people who will see some very positive future potential here. They have already done what past bashers claimed was not likely, and I don't see much slow-down now just because they have not PR'd much lately.
I feel that HFBV has been trying to conserve $ by not giving PR's for some trader's to sell into. I'm sure it hurts HFBV leadership just as much to see the price this low, but they know as well as I that the majority of the shares are not getting sold at this price either even if some of the sells are legit. A week of heavy buying could eat up a few months of low vol. selling IMO.
What gets me is that we don't really know what is real in terms of trades and what is just trickery.
I agree, and a person does not even have to be an HFBV shareholder to have motives. I doubt MZ has been a shareholder during all his broken record player posts.
Some people have obviously gone out of their way to contrive ideas like "mob boss" Luciano being the only one left in HFBV. Sorry for bringing it back up but that was just a classic example of some of the crazy ideas that I don't think a true investor would try to push. If investors did as much as Schiltgen to show that HFBV is making progress, HFBV on Ihub might be a little more inviting to new investors.
One of the biggest problems I think the true investors have is that we see/feel time go by much slower than the HFBV team does. I think that 3 or 4 mos to us is like 1 month to them in terms of things moving along. I don't know about JB and LJ, but I now very well that at least 3 of the HFBV team have been very busy, and business does tend to make time move quicker IMO. I hope to soon show some proof that things are going on and business deals have been finalized as reported.
Some have stated that it is abnormal for a penny co. w/ product and growing market share to be trading so low, but this is not abnormal at all. They have product, but there has been little recent official mention of sales or new stores or distribution (in terms of what penny investors consider recent that is). There have been thousands of start-ups in the exact same boat, and I've been in a few of them. HANS did not even have instant glory. HANS did not even see instant gains when RR helped set them on the road to success, but success did come. HFBV has not been pumping this thing, and as far as I can see they do not plan to do so. Some of the people out there who might be turned on by the unseen action might not even know HFBV exists. When HFBV is ready to reveal everything, this sub-penny stuff could go away quickly if they had the goods to draw some bigger investors. One of the sick things about this price is that many shell co.'s w/ no sales or product have been bought up at much higher prices.
Atomic Dogg beats all Red Red Bull "average user" product ratings on Bevnet:
http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/rankingsprod.asp?BEVNET_Products_BEVNET_BrPage=3
http://www.bevnet.com/reviews/rankingsprod.asp?BEVNET_Products_BEVNET_BrPage=29
lucky dogg. You make me sick
Interesting. What notable comments did I miss? Anyhthing from Rocket on the matter? Any welcoming or departing ceremonies?
Thank you.
Since when has pickngrinin been the main mod. here? I was out last week.
I must ask how much HFBV pays you. I'm joking of course. Just a little happy to know that other people are dong their homework. I commend you on the pics. I need some pics now.
We probably do need to give Bevnet some margin of error until something is officially released. It is possible that Goya has not yet fully "launched" HP as Bevnet seemed to have stated. However, I see no reason to overlook the fact that something is going on w/ Goya and a future deal could be in the works. I don't now why Goya would have featured HP at the show if they were not at least negotiating a deal w/ HFBV. We'll just have to see.
Any more news on Serralles lately? I've been out for 6 days. I had received an unofficial comment from an online friend that she had spotted AD in Puerto Rico. I'm not saying that everyone should go buy a few M shares because of that info., but I don't think we should write off Serralles either.