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They need to fix that AD site first. Otherwise, good ideas. I've been trying to do some of that for several months. You should join a bunch of popular sites and use them for your own entertainment, but write something about HFBV at the same time, and google will pick it up just like you said. HFBV should be using the power of the internet more anyway. Good to see AD listed on Serralles now. Hopefully we soon see HP on Goya. If anybody has anything to do w/ video game groups, I'd encourage you to make a mark there as well. Have a nice day.
I have not watched it for quite some time, but when I had seen it last, I thought they were set up to make some gains and pull a few cent profit. I just decided to look at the numbers. Yahoo shows them w/ June ttm revs. of $53.62M and 4.62M in gross profit, but it appears that they lost all the profit to taxes or something, because there is no net income. EPS shows 0.00, so a break even for shareholders I guess. The problem for them is that they could lose some business due to the economy and new gov. administration. Like many stocks that are still good co's, they are down nearly 90% since about a year ago. They had even spiked up to .27 as recent as April. I'm thinking it must be expected defense cuts and overall poor economy.
Wow! Another one that's real low is DPDW. They broke through 1.00 (again) not too long ago. Kind of followed the price of fuel I guess. Not that I think I could call fuel cheap yet. I remember when it was .98 at AM PM's. That was 15-16 years ago though. I'm still paying around 2.90.
Regards.
Hi reb. AIRI sure took a beating, but what hasn't? I see you are on Purio. I will have to check it out next week. Regards.
Not a bad point, but you cannot say they have no competition. Nevertheless, it seems like they have a good thing going, and if all is accurate, the float is nice and low.
Head games.
The part of his comment I was referring to had nothing to do w/ opinion. It was the fact that all day long people could have seen and heard the cries, and then somebody else thought it necessary to rub it deeper. People have a right to do that I guess. People have a right to state the obvious, and I have a right to say it is obvious. That's about all I have to say about that. Life is like a box of chocolate. Regards.
Because it's sales that count, and I bet a large % of sales come out of those quick-stops. I know the 7-11's I've been to in OR are busy all the time, and most of the small stores I've talked to sell a lot of ED's. Rockstar is missing out if they leave out those stores IMO.
What front people? They're not using any. It might be interesting to see some front people though.
That's more like it. I just didn't think that we all needed a constant reminder that our investment has been considerably reduced. The numbers speak for themselves, so I'd rather mention things like how much significant distribution could be worth in the near future. Once they start taking up market share, a competitor might just decide to buy us out. It is worth more than a $1M. I'm very convinced of that. Just the fact that we have a guy like Robert Rosario on our side is worth at least a few $100K IMO. If LJ started making a scene, maybe I would add on another few $100K on there as well. This is not over by a long shot like some people have tried to assert on here.
"Always" is too strong, not true, and you know it. Just because the last two PR's did not produce big results, we had a pretty big pop in July over much less news. The Puerto Rico news produced some results too, but some people decided to just take advantage of the situation. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but many times pennies don't. Some people have said that HFBV is exceptional on the negative side, but I think they have been exceptional on the positive side. Another poster and I argued about HFBV in June. He said it would take much longer to do what they have now done. He also said it would be worth buying if they got a big deal like Pilot, and that id when the SP was at .005 or more. Now HFBV has 2 major distributors (among others), and they have very few shares out compared to some other co. who have not even accomplished 1/2 what they have. They have gotten by w/ very little pumping of any kind, and I do commend them for that. However, some non-pumping communication might be called for considering the grossly undervalued stock price.
Well that's such a great thing to say since so many of us probably did not notice, especially after today. I actually thought it said .15 (as I'm sure did many others) rather than .0015 until you brought it to my attention.
Thank you. That is a different site I had not looked at. The other site did not have it listed. That is an interesting pic. they used. Generic I guess. I've never thought of drinking AD in a wine glass w/ grapes, but I'm sure it tastes just as good that way if not better--or at least maybe psychologically the wine glass would make one think it taste better. To me, AD needs nothing to make it better. It is a high quality drink just as much in a mason jar as a wine glass
As I have said recently, I think the interactive web site could be of some help now. I'm thinking there might be some extra components to a web site that could actually attract people for entertainment value, and I hope they will pursue some. W/ all the new distribution and growing consumer base, it would be cool to have some extra attractions for fans to talk about. Actually there are a few other things I think might make more of a difference than that, but w/ all the distribution now, maybe they should at least start working on it. I'm not saying this as a complaint, and I'm not saying it will make all the difference, but it might help some. As far as the old site goes, they have updated some since you guys first started ranting about it a few months ago. I have no big complaints about it, but it could be better, and I doubt it reflects the best RR has to offer. That is not to say RR is not doing his job however. I believe RR is earning his keep very well, and a new web site would not make much difference w/o HFBV's big distribution deals.
Not a chance. There is a difference between offering educated or supported comments and just rattling off complete nonsense or the same thing over and over. I suppose we should continue the accusation that HFBV leadership are just gang members or that Luciano is the only one left and he is putting all the $ into mob operations? A drop in stock price does not support much of what MZ has asserted at all--just as a drop in Warren Buffet's stock does not mean he is a stupid man. Warren Buffet's stock (BRK)this past year hit a high of around $150K, but now it sits at $90K. To say that MZ has any stock sense or sense about how good of a co. HFBV is just because of a drop in share price is a little far fetched IMO.
Good to hear it. Once Goya starts hitting the shelves w/ some HP, we should see it listed on their web site as well. I'm excited to try the new formula. I've tried the others, and they were very good. I don't see AD on Serralles, and you may be mistaken. Could you post the link if it is listed on Serralles? It it is not on there w/ the other products sold but not produced by Serralles, and I think it should be. Again, it probably would not make much of a difference, but it would be a nice gesture to tie things together.
very good point.
Can you say player? It's psychological mumbojumbo, and I think it's probably best just to do what you feel you have to do for yourself. I shouldn't be the one to talk, but I would not let some of the comments ruffle your feathers too much. Thank you for commenting though. No doubt in my mind that HFBV is worth a ton more than $1M just based on the distribution that they have secured. Once the distribution has been significantly completed w/ Goya and Serralles, not to mention the others, HFBV should be worth several million--possibly tens of millions. There is a lot of value in profitable shelf space, and there is a lot of value in the relationships w/ co.'s that can get us that shelf space.
I believe it's on hold or something. I have never heard of it actually being available.
I agree w/ that, and I apologize if I sounded like I had joined any "crying." I do however think it would be cool to see HFBV products listed on Serralles and Goya's sites. Serralles does have other non-Serralles products listed there, so I don't see any reason not to add HFBV products. I'm not sure that would make a big difference necessarily, but it would be a nice addition, and it should make HFBV look a little more legit. Not to say I think HFBV doesn't look legit or anything.
Also, at one time I had said that an interactive web site would be a waste, but now that distribution is looking pretty good in some areas, I'd think that an exciting wen site might do a little more good. That does not mean I'm putting down the one we have, but the interactive one does sound a little more worthwhile now. It seems that there should be a way to draw consumers into a web site for some form of entertainment or for other benefits other than just an interest in energy drinks. Doesn't the Arizona Tea site have some kind of internet radio? Maybe it was just a playlist. What would be cool is if I could connect w/ playlist and listen to music w/o using download gigs gigs on my computer. They charge me bookoo bucks for going over on my gig usage here.
Thank you for the suggestions. I don't have any complaints about the current web site, but maybe some people will come up w/ some good ideas and email them to the co.
V-Water has 13 carbs (cane sugar and fructose).
THey said they are holding off on the web site, but I hope they reconsider. I did not say that last summer, but w/ all the new distribution, I think some now excitement on the web site could be helpful. Also, they do have product in NY. It's just not as plentiful. Maybe they need to add an actual distribution map to the web site so people can see that it is both in LA and NY, and many other places. Sometimes a good graphic representation can be a little more exciting. Thorough national distribution will take time of course. Goya will speed it of for HP though IMO. I think we could see some fairly heavy national dist. for HP w/in 3 mos. or so.
We have "seen some of the product in a store before." To add to the thought of appearance on the HFBV web site, it would be cool to see HFBV products listed both on the Goya and Serralles web sites.
Well you're sounding a bit "pumpish" there IMO, but in time, this will pan out. I just don't think you can be sure that in a "few days", depending on what your few days is, people will not be able to get them this cheap. The bigger market has hurt the little guys to some extent, but I still think for various reasons the pennies are a bit different. I don't think HFBV will go up 100% just because the overall market bounces a bit, but then again, we could see some more big news with an end to some of this selling and HFBV could bounce when the market in on a down day. Just hard to be sure either way IMO.
You're telling me? Holy Cow!! I just watched the last hour, and it is stupid for anybody to sell here. I just bought more today. Finally sold a few things around here that I did not need. If this is legit selling, HFBV needs to convince some of the sellers that of where they are headed. Goya is a respectable, major international co. Even if I have to wait a bit to see Goya to get product dispersed, we should be seeing HFBV primarily finance progress through actual sales in a pretty short time.
Not many people could have sold for much more than break-even at .002, and if that is what they did, they picked a crazy day to do so. Hopefully they just run out of shares and it goes up soon and burns them.
This Goya deal is huge. The PR is no big surprise to me, because based on the Bevnet info. I had believed that HFBV would eventually officially release news of the deal. However, I am still more excited than ever to know it is final. We now have two huge distributors selling HFBV products. HFBV has the Caribbean opened up through Serralles, and now many other areas are opened up for HP through Goya. I mean Holy Cow People!! we could hear of Goya selling HP in Spain and South America in the near future.
Nothing has been "proven", but it is not necessarily crazy either. It is crazy, however, that this is this low. It is possible that a creditor is selling, but that is even crazy w/ such news. I mean they could sell for $100K, but look back and find that they could have gotten $1M a short time later. The thing about saying that HFBV is diluting is that they are not necessarily selling themselves. I mean you cannot just say HFBV just dumped when It could be some financial institution selling their position from a deal w/ HFBV from some other time. It's hard to say exactly, but I do believe this is a good deal even if HFBV had an OS of 800M. Goya is no small fish.
Wow. Looks like AUTO has a lot to buy and sell. Wonder who will win out in the AUTO camp. Just looked back. Looks like a tie. AUTO dropped off the ask and bid (after a big trade at .0021), but then NITE moved into the same position. Crazy stuff I tell you.
It is pretty crazy, but I do believe it will go up significantly from here. The overall market is down too. Maybe less people are paying attention. When people see how undervalued it is compared to current progress and future potential, it should move, and maybe some of the yayhoos just get bought out then. It's not like HFBV has been heavily promoting this or anything. It is actually a little surprising that they have not promoted a little more. I don't want "pumping", but maybe there are other things that could be done. There was a 2 month gap there w/ no PR, and now they seem to be increasing communication. I like that.
I thought there was a lawsuit going on here. What became of that? Anybody?
Somebody said it had been sold in some vending machines, but officially, it was not PR'd. Either way, this is big news.
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Thank you BBD. I totally agree w/ your post, and in terms of the AS/OS, HFBV is doing awesome compared to many co's. Some co.'s add over 1B in less than a year, and keep on doing the same day after day. HFBV has matched great progress w/ an increase in O/S of around 250M in a year, and that is not bad at all. No doubt the stock could use some attention, but I seriously believe it is grossly undervalued, and I will get more when I am financially able to do so. I believe HFBV's market cap is sitting around $1M right now. W/ the major distribution deals that HFBV already has, it is already worth much more than $1M IMO. Many little co.'s have been bought up w/ little or no business at all for much more $ than that. As I have said in the past, there are rich dudes like Jay Leno who could buy the HFBV whole market cap for the price of a couple of his cars. If they keep proving themselves like they have been, I believe some wealthy people will take notice and want a large stake in HFBV. The fact that HFBV is now involved w/ fairly prominent and stable distributors just adds to the attractiveness to bigger investors. It is very possible that that is where many of the O/S shares are right now. If a few more things come together, I still believe that HFBV's market cap could go up to 10's of $M's overnight.
Cool. I'm sure they should like it. I have not heard one bad report.
I lived in Marysville near Everett for a few months. Everett traffic can be brutal.
good to hear that you finally got some. I felt bad knowing that you had been around this long and had not gotten any. The product is certainly worth more than the stock reflects, and I probably could have made a mint buying and selling product rather than stock, but I think we'll be ok in the long run.
I talked to one of the local beverage distributors here, and he said the drinks are actually still selling quite well, and it has been down below 0 degrees a few times. So much for the theory that drinks can only sell well during beverage season. Alaskans also eat more ice cream per capita than any other state.
maybe so.
I partly disagree. If they had harnessed some of that, it could have helped. I think that you are right in that HFBV does not need them to be successful though, and I am not counting on them anymore, nor am I relying on them to make things work. HFBV has made it this far w/o JB and LJ in the spotlight, and I think they can take it the rest of the way w/o them. No offense to RB, but I never thought he was going to be as big of a force anyway. As far as LJ's shares go, I don't think he could have sold them all on the open market. I think they were restricted, but I could be wrong, and I'm not going to bother looking right now, nor do I care.
Cheers!
We can speculate as much as you can say that if they put out a big PR it mean they are increasing the AH, or as much as you speculate that the sales could be just trial runs. They also said that AD ES has been doing very well. The only thing that continues to confuse me is why they have not used some of their bigger guns like JB and LJ to propel this forward and make a bigger scene. They should be able to pump some more excitement in this.
The "agreement" w/ Serralles was already finalized a few months ago now.
This is what I'm talking about right here:
"HydroPower® will not be available online as we have entered an agreement for this products exclusive distribution with an national / international company. Hall of Fame Beverages is in the early stages of filling the first order of HydroPower® to our new distributor and the beginning of a national rollout. The schedule for this rollout spans over a timeframe of the next six months. More information about this latest exclusive distribution agreement will be made in the future. HydroPower® has had a "makeover" with a new label and a new low 2 carb formula."
I'm excited to see how much HFBV will progress in the "next six months." More info. will be PR'd in the future, but the fact that they have actually entered into the agreement is a good start, and it is w/ a big co. like Goya. It is a good feeling that a big co. like Goya is teaming up w/ HFBV, and Serralles is teaming up w/ HFBV for distribution in the Caribbean. Those are some big names, and if everything takes off, I believe these deals will not only bring major sales, but they will alsobring in more investors IMO.
Your right, but that is what I was talking about though. I would be surprised if the recent announced/unannounced deal was not with Goya. That is quite huge IMO.